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Today's d is
and we are three lines from the top of
so continuing to discuss the
so on the bottom of the gum brought one
of the more important members in
said
reading from the bottom of if you have
two ears of the lungs that are attached
to each other via an adhesion what kazal
referred to as a cir less lubedika
there's no point in doing aika the
reason is because if you have this thea
is certainly a tra as a result this
animal is going to be off limits we
mentioned is why is it that a renders
the animal a traa rashi says if you have
a it must be there's a nek and even if
you testa and you can't find the nekv
what we'll have to assume is that the
nek was a scab formed to cover the nek.
And as we've seen and will continue to
see that a rhea that has a nek that gets
sealed via a natural scab is still
considered a neva and as a result the
cir proves that the rehea has a nek
which means that the animal's going to
be a trait. The place learns a little
bit differently.
says that the is not indicative of the
fact that there is a nev but rather it's
indicative of the fact that there will
be a nv and that's
that even though right now there is no
nek in the stating that teaches me that
if you know that that if the animal
continues its natural course that this
animal will have a neck if that's enough
to deem the animal to be a traer right
now then ra immediately qualified as
meaning two parts of the lungs that are
attached to each other via this is
considered a however
that's only if the two ears that are
attached to each other are not the ears
that are in succession.
So if you were to number the
lung and one was attached to two or two
was attached to three that wouldn't make
the animal a tra. If it's 1:3 or 2 to 4
or 1:5, whatever, if it's in the way,
that's where it'd be a problem. Either
way, the Gmorra continues on that note
on the top of
what happens if the was attached to the
wall of the chest that it's next to via
a cir. So there's a cir on the but the
circa is not between two parts of the
rhea but rather it's between the rhea
the lungs and the chest cavity the wall
that's right next to it says in we don't
have to be concerned meaning we don't
have to assume that the is coming from
the which then implies that either there
is a neck of like or there will be a
neck of like rather we have a right to
be assume that the is presumably coming
from the doen of the chest, it's not
coming from the rhea and as a result
it's not going to be a problem because a
nek in the doen of the chest that
doesn't make the animal a tra. So even
if a cir is an indication of a nek it's
only going to be a problem if it's on an
organ where a nek would make the animal
a tra. So a on the rhea is a problem.
But if you have a cir on the dyphen it's
not going to be a problem. What if the
cir is attaching the rhea and the doen?
So if it's coming from the rhea it's a
problem. If it's coming from the it's
not a problem. Says a phenomenal
you don't have to be concerned. If
however there were blisters on the
rehea. So now we're ready. We have a
little bit of a rea on the it looks like
this is not such a healthy which now
makes us believe that there's a a good
chance that the is in fact coming from
the if that's the case in that case you
would have to be concerned. Without a
rea you have a right to be toile we have
a right to assume that this adhesion is
coming from the chest cavity it's not
coming from the lungs
said I read from differently
no you always have to be concerned what
do you mean it doesn't make sense we're
dealing with suffic trace of course he's
supposed to go like any suffic so if you
have a a and you don't know if it's
coming from the or coming from the
without question you would have to be
concerned. So what do you do? Meaning
how do we determine all he said was you
have to be concerned. So we're going to
have to run a set of diagnostics now to
try to figure out if we can know where
exactly the circles coming from
said I heard from Shab. He explained
what you're supposed to do is as
follows.
You take a knife that has a very very
sharp fine blade
and you remove the and you take a look
at the you take a look at the lungs.
If there's a ray in the assume it's
coming from the dye and if there's no
rises in the
you have to assume that it's coming from
the
and it's going to be a tra we take out
the next few words. In other words, what
Raa said, he heard from Raab who was
explaining was very simple. If you have
a cir that's attaching the lungs to the
dyen, you have to be so we allow you to
make to run a test to see if there seems
to be something fishy with the dyen in
which case then you'll be able to assume
that maybe it's coming from the but
otherwise the status quo is going to be
you're going to be left with a suffic
and if you're left with a sophic you're
going to have no choice but to say
he said he said that even if you ran
tests and it looks like there's
something wrong with the which based on
what the just said even according to
who's but if it looks like it's coming
from the then you can be said I'm still
not comfortable with that I would still
take the lungs I would run it through
the lukewarm water as the described in
detail on [snorts] and again on just to
be 100% sure that this is in fact coming
from the and it's not coming from the so
at first glance it would seem to be a if
you have a between the and the said you
be you have a right to assume that it's
coming from the unless you see something
on the rhea that's suggesting otherwise.
So for example there were blisters on
the it was then you have to be concerned
maybe it's coming from the but otherwise
be said what do you mean be if you have
a suffic
if you see something wrong with the and
even then the said
I still would be it's only in that case
that you would have a right to be now at
first glance you would think he's right
because
so What'sman
says you have a right to be why are you
being what happened to the basic of
so the truth is and the raj they all
discuss
in very great detail it's beyond the
scope of what we're going to do right
now but one mahal that do say and that
is that when we say that if there's a
that means either there was a nek or it
means there will be an active is that a
vi or is that only a suffic So some say
that maybe it's not a vic maybe it's
only a suffic and as a result of held
that if you have another suffic
and that's why it's going to be if you
have a and you know for sure it's coming
from the you have a suffic now no
knows that would apply the rule to the
right of even to the of stating that
over here where we're not sure if the is
coming from the or the is coming from
the so it's a suffic if there's even a
In there's a maybe no what you're left
with
even everybody agrees that you go the
truth is that this is also in the we had
earlier.
So the just brought
which is that even according to that
says that you have to go when you have a
between the and the and the was that you
have to assume it's coming from the
unless you find the with the on
said that even if you found the on the
still be I still want you to be 100%
sure that this is clean in other words
was a big because you already found the
on And so why you checking the he wants
you to be extra careful. He wants you to
go ahead, cross your tees, dot your
eyes. I want to be 1,000% sure that
there's nothing wrong with this. So the
said that said that I heard this
mentioned in a completely different
context. I think you have the wrong I
think you're relating it to the wrong. I
heard that he wasn't saying I heard he
was saying he was going back on Ra's
original. What was Rava's original?
That's the we began the d with in the
intro.
If you have two parts of the that are
attached to each other
there's nothing you can do you can't be
on that
was he said he said no that where said
the case of between two parts of where
in that case it's dead on arrival
there's nothing to do that's that is the
of it was on that
said no there's a way out you could do
aika but the asks The obvious question.
What's the obvious question? What are
you checking for
between the and the I understand the
you're going to do a you're going to try
to see could you find the nek? Could you
not find the nek? If you find the nek,
okay, you found what you were looking
for. If you don't find the nek, then
you'll assume it was coming from the and
as a result, it's going to be a hassum.
But in the case where it's two parts of
the rhea that are attached to each
other,
what are you looking for? It's coming
from the it's either coming from number
one or number three. But what difference
does it make? It's going to be a a says
the it doesn't make sense what you and
so what are you going to tell me? Maybe
you won't find the nek at all. But as
we've mentioned so many times, even if
you don't find a neck, all that means,
we'll have to assume is that it
developed a scab, a chrome where the
neckv was and a chrome that develops on
top of a neck in the in a it's not
considered that [snorts] this hole was
plugged as a result of he said there's
no way that
could have said his regarding original
but rather the way that brings it he
must have said and not as a on the
but rather as a in the case with the was
between the and the way the mentioned it
now was the said
whatever reason even though suffic
over here where there's a possibility
that the is coming from the there's a
possibility that it's coming from the we
have a right to assume it's coming from
the stating that say
if blisters developed on the Then then
you do have to be concerned.
So nea is a tra it's one of the traers
that are mentioned in the mish. What
happens however if the do of the chest
was it was plugging the the hole of the
rhea so [snorts] there is now we keep on
saying that if the rhea has a nev and
then a chrome develops on top of the
neckv it doesn't undo the nek that's not
what is talking about was discussing
where there was a hole in the rayo and
then naturally the dyson of the of the
chest it's pressing against the nekv so
really there's there from a practical
standpoint the nek isn't affecting the
livelihood of the animal So what does
say it's going to be cauter? So Frank
Gomorra in the case where you have a
between the
and the even if there would even if you
have blisters on the rehea that just
means that the
is coming from the rhea okay in the
worst case scenario there's a nek in the
rhea who cares if there's a nek in the
rhea at the end of the day the doen is
plugging that hole through this adhesion
through this cir the doen is attached to
the rhea and as a result it should be a
mood point now if another would say We'd
have no problem with that. The problem
is
how could be the one that said this.
Meaning the Gomorrah feels that
in his phenomenal it doesn't understand
that if there's a between the and the
but it was so now ready there seems to
be circumstantial evidence that it's
coming from the now you have to be
concerned frankly why in the worst case
scenario there's a and even if there's
av
where the is and even though it's a
little different it's through the okay
the is attaching the to
So as a result it's being plugged. So
the like you have to say
when said that the
makes it that's only if it's in its
natural form but this was not natural
meaning it's not that it's just the
basic natural healthy anatomy of the
animal where you have the hole is in a
place where it's pressed against the
chest cavity and as a result we don't
look at it as a negative. we have over
here is is there's a a part of the chest
cavity that naturally should not be
plugging the soul. It's just attached to
it via this via this adhesion. As a
result, it over here said
what is the soar says it would have to
be in the splits between the of the
lungs between those ears in one of those
areas that's if the hole was there and
it's pressed against the consider
otherwise not elaborates on this point.
If you have a hole in the hole, it's
going to be cautious.
This is only true if the was embedded.
It was imshed inside the the only then
that it's considered that it was again
because it has to be say
let's say it wasn't inshed in that way.
my what's a tra it's going to be a
traman agrees that a nevo makes it a tra
even if it's in between the cracks of it
doesn't matter where it is he's just
saying that if it's inshed properly then
it's the and in that case it's going to
be okay but the ask
you see a nev is considered a ne
so why does it help that it's ensh
the garra is assuming developed before
it became enshed in the baser And if
that's the case, why don't we say that
once the nev developed at that point
there's nothing that can undo it. The
time we learn
the is discussing the tashmish of a man.
So the Gmorra says that if he has a
nefle
he becomes apostle gets the of a the
reason is because
says because the is the
and is a is a person that's
what happens if after there was a in
this man's that nev was plugged he's not
a anymore cuz now he could
Even though the nek was a problem, now
that the neck is not there anymore, it's
not a problem. And then the bright says
this is an example where when there was
a nek was a problem, but now that the
nek is no longer there, it's not a
problem anymore. Says this is an example
of a nek that was plugged with a plug
can under the nek. It sounds like it's
coming to something
that if there's a nea and then it gets
plugged afterwards, it's not going to be
a problem. So what's
says a nekv in the that gets immeshed in
the bus is not a problem to the extent
that it's av why does it it getting
inshed why does that help so says I hear
what you're saying is something and even
though it's two completely unrelated
here we're dealing with says but it
doesn't matter the still likes that
parallel but says theor and I agree with
the but it's coming to mind something
else coming to
You're right. There is a time where in
the cannot be plugged. That's if it was
plugged via a chrome that develops a
membrane, a scab of some sort that's not
considered undoing the neck. And that's
the in
that's a ne
that could be undone. But an alpha is
not but not every time an is not. It
depends how it was plugged. If it was
plugged via chrome there, the is a
chrome. If however the ne was plugged
because it got enshed in the like it was
there. It's going to be okay
one more.
What would happen now if according to
there was a hole in the lungs and now
the lungs positioned itself in a way
where the of the chest is
it's it's plugging the hole said even
though a chrome that develops on top of
the neck in the it can't plug that hole
but if the dyphen does that could what
would happen if now there was a neck of
in the doen of the chest now the chest
got developed a hole so ordinarily that
would not be considered a trafa but
being that over here you already had a
Traa, you had that nek. It just so
happens that the nek doesn't bother me
right now cuz it was plugged via the if
you now have a ne
that you have a neo it should be a
problem. So theor was said why isn't it
then mentioned in the Mishna interesting
listening
or somebody should have mentioned it
of this nik of that all the nikav that
we had 8 n there was a whole list of
them how come nobody mentioned now
you'll tell me is not a tra depends if
there's a neo then a nephen would be a
nek ask gives the obvious answer but
first the question
If there's a hole in the m in the
gallbladder
if the liver is blocking the hole so
that there's no impact with this hole
it's not considered a tra
would happen now if there was a hole in
the liver obviously would be a traa if
that's the case listening so how come we
don't mention a hole in the liver hole
in the liver not mention the talked
about if you remember if it was
completely removed or there's a left
over but a hole in the covet is not a
problem a hole in deliver should also
what do you have to say
the words are but if you look at Rashi
says what we mean to say is is that if
there's a hole in the and the of the is
plugging it and now there's a hole in
the doen you're right it's a tra it's a
tra though because of the nek in the
dhen of course not it's a tra because of
the ne and the if there's a nek in the m
in the gallbladder the liver is blocking
it and now there's a a hole in the cover
animal's going to be a tra Why? Because
of the hole in the liver? No, it's
because of the hole in the m. So at the
end of the day, it comes down to
it comes down to
it's just of
it's for that reason. It's not a new tra
that's why it's not mentioned in the
so at the beginning of the mentioned aa
that has blisters which can cause a lot
of problems. The context was but it was
a cir that was attaching the rhea and
the of the
we're not sure if the cir is coming from
the rhea is it coming from the
if there were blisters on the rhea that
establishes a ray in the rhea and we
assume that it's coming from the ray but
the context of the blisters rendering
the animal a trafa is whether it was a
circa it's not the blisters that make
the animal a tra it's the cir that makes
the animal a The blisters is just our
way of knowing that the is coming from
the thus that was makes the animal a but
the says wanted to know what happens if
you would have blisters on the without
any how would you look at it that
so you have a there's no all there is
funny I ask him the same I also hold
this caution.
They're not sure about it.
If it's filled with pus, it's a tra
if it's filled with pure water. It's
going to be but mugl pus comes from
blisters. And you see that what pus a
blister is a problem. He told him back
he says it's true. Mal mugl is but it's
not talking about lungs. Doesn't say the
word ray over there.
That's discussing kidneys. So blisters
on a kidney is a problem. But blisters
on the lungs is not a problem.
Was once following in
saw pieces of meat. They were
and they were there were blisters on it.
So he told him
want to know from if it's kosher or not.
So he turned to him and instead of
asking him directly this says tell me is
not hungry maybe he wants a piece of
meat says just so happens I have no
money on me told him he says you know I
have a I have good terms with these
vendors I'll give if you want I'll I I
can buy on credit [laughter] and I'll
take care of you told him I hear you're
right you got me I'll have to be honest
with you
because when like this would come with
blisters on would be brought in front
He would send it to
because he had
that
he himself didn't hold that way. In
other words, I heard from that thought
that really
should be a problem. But being that he
didn't have a mess on it, he didn't want
to ask him that it's a problem. At the
same time, he couldn't say it's mut
because he have that it's either. So he
used to send people to who had a messiah
from a lot of names on this stuff who
had a messiah that it was okay. So said
I heard from that he doesn't have a
clear messiah this way clears that way.
As a result I'm not going to tell you
it's at the same time I can't tell you
it's I can tell you what used to do but
the reason I'm not buying meat is not
because I don't have money. I don't need
it from your credit either. I'm simply
not sure what I'm supposed to do.
Similar story. Rob said he used to
follow.
Some say it was in the shook of the
raoni
says kandi are also blisters but they're
a little bit bigger than the blisters
that we had in the previous gar
and made an interesting observation used
to follow and you had all the m the
butcher stores were selling meat where
the lungs had blisters on it and it
wasn't he didn't start screaming
he didn't say anything why didn't he say
anything must be elder was okay
interesting says
They used to walk
says these are even bigger blisters
and he wouldn't say anything and again
that this was not considered a pro. So
before we go just to exhale for a moment
with something light and then we'll get
into some of the more intense at the
very end of the d. So the gammorra had
mentioned something interesting.
discussed
where if the lungs have a nev
it's going to be caution this is aesh
because we've been saying many times in
the of that a nek in the where a
develops on top of the nek that doesn't
undo the nev but at the same time said
that if the nek was undone because it's
now in meshed
that's different and that's going to be
caution
said the raven qualified.
He said it's only
it has to be literally part of the meat
of the animal. But if it's just that the
is right next to where the ne is that in
and of itself won't be oh okay. So
Ibraas
brings
he brings from
who said that is not like that even
[snorts] though Ravina said that the
only time the being the would undo the
neck is if it's
said no
in other words
is it's always going to be caution. Now
obviously there's a real traous
implication to this but that's not the
part of this that we're going to go into
has a different problem says he doesn't
understand how
like we know ra was from the last ra was
the author of the raashi
is always like is always like
would go ahead and pass like it's
we always ask him like raino says vashma
I'm so bothered with this that you have
to say
I don't think this is you're right.
There's a raven that's mentioned
throughout. One of the most often
mentioned in is raash
who happened to
but I don't think this is ra I think
this is somebody else. I think this is a
different ravino. this ra we don't
necessarily paskin like and that's why
not like but you're right if this was
the ra of then
would have no right to pas like then
says I think I have a riot why because
says that after rais
that means there's an exchange here
between rais and ravino and says that if
you know a little bit of the chronology
of that there's no way that rais and
ravino shared in exchange. There's no
way they could have spoken to each
other. And it's based on a
well-known gar says
passed away on that day was born. The
day that Rebi died
was born
to teach me.
So the mentions that incredibly
makes it that the day that a saddic
passes away another saddic is born. And
these are literally the
great sadik of all time.
It says
we know that Ravino was a contemporary
of Raashi. In fact, Ravino was a Talmet
of Ravashi, but they were
contemporaries. Ravino and Raashi says
that even though Ravino was a contempor
was a Talmet of Raashi, still the
[snorts] is like Ravina not like Ravashi
because Rav lived in for some time.
was above
and therefore we pass like we don't pass
just to give you an idea how far we go
to passing like Ravino that even
connected his rebi raashi the greatashi
is like ra but either way ra was a
contemporary raashi ra was a
contemporary of and the garra says that
no raashi that means raashi never saw
rava the day the raashi passed away that
was the day the ra the day the rava
passed away that was the day raashi was
That means Ra and Raashi never saw each
other. If that's the case, it makes
sense says Ty is just logical that Ravo
and Ravino also never saw each other
because Ravoa was a contemporary of
Ravino was a contemporary was even a Tal
a little younger presumably that Raashi
if that's the case how could it work
place
it's not a not the same person it's two
ravenas and maybe that's how he knew it
was a different raw different says it
turns between the rush says what says as
well and the rush He adds one more
and the context is really not what we
need now but
when a person finds a and now it's
right in the beginning so if he finds a
he's supposed to say
the rush
says
he sends you to this rush right here.
But either way, so it says the rush
raino and are talking. How could Raa be
talking
and Raashi was a contemporary of Ravino?
So if Raashi was born the day that Raa
passed away, Raashi and Raa could have
never shared an exchange and from Ravino
and and Raa could not have shared
exchange had says the rash exactly what
says that it must be there were two
ravenas truth is if you look in the so
there are many ravenas mentioned in but
all the raven that are mentioned in not
ra just going through the you have
ravula
raziki ra but raenuti But he has two
stam raven does say one he calls raad
and the second one he refers to raino
raino is the raino that's as in raashi
but he has another raad
who what's the raad says says
just one. If you remember, we spoke
about this once, not this this, but we
spoke about this idea
of that was a little while ago, but then
we spoke about it in the context of
the
says I had a minute ago that
said
the he said that he meant the pompad and
they had an exchange, you know, and
who were the rash over
The garra says the wereud and the
asks in other words if roa says that he
met the sabi the pmpadisa that means roa
met rahuda how could roa have metud that
says
the day the rabuda passed away that's
the day the raba was born so it doesn't
says the roy I think you have to say a
very big kadesh and that is that pa you
learn the gum that this is some
coincidence that happens. Right? That's
an oxymoron. But
that the day that a passes away, a new
should be born.
But it says the I don't think that's
what it means. I don't think it means
it's the day that he was born. I think
what it means is we know that
when a person is he becomes a new
person. He becomes a
he's a
you have this idea of not literally this
is the day I was born but this is the
day that I was born again so to speak
this is the day of the rebirth says
that's what the gumar means the gumar
doesn't mean
on that day it means the god and nobi
rebi was he became the next god and
rebiuda and rebu
not that never saw Yehuda he did see
Rhuda but when Rhuda passed away so till
now it was Rhuda was the god of now
who's the god now is the god of but it
doesn't mean that never sawud
say
it means in the sense of
that he was that
because he's a new person. He's a
if that's the case, that's what he
means. He says over there that says that
the says that was of and everyone's on
this change the no one knows how to give
with this. How could you say the raash
was of the garra says
he says that's only if you take the
literally but if you don't take the
literally then it's not going to be so
he was and then when the passed away was
born
it's also because if you hold that
means literally
and the rush like quotes in the end of
the he brings it above
then it's all good. How could you say
that
is a contemporary raashi is a
contemporary of
but like says it's just a
he was a soash was a
to the contrary they were contemporaries
you have either way this would be a
little bit of a maram to that if you
want you can take a look in the margles
margles
He has a little bit of an on this right
here.
An animal. The now goes in. He's
inspecting the animal and he found a
mat, a needle inside the lungs. So at
first glance, that would seem to be a
very big problem. But amazingly there
was no puncture in the lungs and being
that there was no puncture in the lungs.
So it's not a nika but at the same time
there's a needle there and it got there
somehow. So the question is how did it
get there? So the emp is that before we
see the gar inside just there there's
really two possibilities two things
could have happened either the needle
came in to the internal organs of the
animal in the conventional way. How does
a person swallow? Through his veset
through his esophagus. So went through
the esophagus down into the digestive
tract and somehow from there it made its
way out into the rhea. If that's the
case, some vital organ had to be
punctured, right? How else did it get
into the ray? How else did it get into
the ray? So obviously it punctured the
fact that you don't see it, that could
just mean that a chrome developed. A
crumb that develops mock in a chrome and
as a result you're going to have to
assume that this animal is going to be a
tra. But the truth is there is another
possibility. The other possibility is is
that maybe it went down the ka. It went
through the trachea. And as uncommon as
that is, it is a possibility. Right? The
Gmorrah says a person shouldn't talk
while he's eating.
It is possible. Again, it's unlikely,
but it's possible. So maybe it made its
way down the trachea. If it did that, it
could have gotten into the rhea via one
of the bronchial tubes. Refer to your
picture exhibit something. And if you
take a look at that, it's possible that
it went in in a more natural way. It
didn't puncture the veset. It didn't
puncture the rail. It just went in
without making any punctures. based on
that it would be okay. So really whether
this has to be a problem or not depends
on how it made its way down. Another
issue that you have to is that the
Mishna says a nea would make the rhea
problem but also in the neka would also
be an issue. We had this earlier. So the
virtue of the fact that there's a neck a
needle inside the animal's rhea that
means it's it's taking up space. It
definitely made some sort of in the rhea
itself. So really there's two things you
have to think about. Number one, is
there a nek in the because otherwise how
else did it get in? So you tell me I
don't see it. That doesn't mean
anything. Number two, maybe there's a
concern in the nek. So really you have
two of the traus over here that need to
be taken into consideration. So what's
the says
it's
they all said it was big says you forget
first glance I think the is like this
maybe the sh was whether we look at it
as
now what do you mean the says is a
problem but that's only maybe
says
everybody agrees that is not considered
over here is not whether it's not a it's
not a why not
we had this on
that's not considered a what then is the
sh the was do we assume that it came in
through the or do we could we assume
that it came in through the now again
the much more reasonable assumption
would be that it came in through the
vashet and if that's the case there for
sure was a hole in the I we don't see it
a krum developed which doesn't make it
not. So what gives a right to be
how do they have a right to say it's the
reason is because at the end of the day
there's no in front of us and Rashi says
that although it's true it's more that
that's what happened but the fact that
it's that it went down the we have this
in that scenario because there is no
hole. So therefore with in this case we
assume that it came through the and
therefore it's going to be cut
there was a piece of and they found a
now this is very important there wasn't
a full animal see after they sh the
animal there's a who goes and he does
aika on the entire animal that's not
what happened here this was already in
the flashkashef they already had a piece
of meat they're in the butcher house now
and they the meat has the the ray so
they can inspect the ra the have aole
that did not have a hole. All you're
looking at now is a piece of soami.
They brought it to
thought it's
so they asked then how can you tell me
it's
says that has a neck of
it
that's
don't you see from there?
So they told him that why would you say
it's how could you say it'sn't there a
problem of
okay so then they they were looking for
so they sent it to
he also wanted to be
again the same
they ended up bringing it back to they
still didn't have a a
time said already it's going to be a
problem
I heard There are other aban that are
okay with it. Told him who are those
other that he was referring to
and
says is going to be okay. Now kept on
asking from
that it should be an issue. The didn't
answer it but we know the answer. The
answer is that is really for whatever
reason says the didn't feel that it was
important to answer that at this point
but we know the answer. So at the end of
the day though that included in them is
says are we always passing like they
will mash so they ask at the end of the
day at the end of the day why is it that
you're saying that if you find the in a
piece of it's going to be didn't and say
it's said it it means that's the so at
the end of the day you're going
so what did he tell him said no
says they
there was a I don't have a me
if the ray was in front of us we'd find
the nek meaning what was the whole logic
behind the they said that even though
it's more that it came through the vash
and really there was a hole in the but
we have the ray in front of us and we
don't see a nek so because we don't see
a nek in the that's what allows us to
assume the slightly unthinkable and that
is that maybe it came in through the ray
but that that it came in through the the
ka it came in through the trachea but
over here we don't I I don't have the
ray in front of me. Could be. If I had
the ray in front of me, not could be.
It's likely if I had the ray in front of
me, I would see a hole in the I would
see a hole in the in the raya because
the way things usually get into an
animal, the way an animal swallows is
through its vasha like people, not
through the you breathe through your
trachea. You swallow through your
esophagus. So it's no shas. They said
it's okay because there was a reas in
the fact that there was no hole in the
so presumably came through the ka as
unlikely as that may seem to me. But in
terms of when you don't have the in
front of you certainly you have to
assume it came through the and the way
it got into the was by making a nev
that's why over here it's going to be
right clearly we're saying that if the
was in front of us and there was no
would be which is
said
if you have the simp of
That's this vessel of the rehea this
blood vessel the inc of that has a hole
in it now is we look at it as a why do
we look at it as a tra why don't we
assume that it all happened through the
and it's going to be okay so the gmorra
says
there it's the reason we look at it as
being a tra is because it's pressed
against its one of the bronai that are
next to it and it's for that reason that
we look at it as being a problem says
is that true that if two things are
pressed against each other we look at it
as a traman said
we learned regarding the intestines just
the opposite we learn the of the
intestines coming up here it's just the
opposite if you have two coils next to
each other one of them has a nev we
assume one protects the other one not
the other way around
comparing one type of tra to another
type of
you You can't compare it.
This is one of the important that you
can't compare, right? We had you can't
compare to other you can't compare any
traers. So it's true. Two things next to
each other in this context is a problem.
Two things next to each other in context
of of the intestines there to the
contrary there it's going to be okay.
One final
there was a that was found in the large
bronchial tube of
They brought it to these
that had that if you find a inside it's
going to be betrayed and they didn't
want they didn't want to say why not
they don't want to say it's because
they're always concerned that the way an
animal swallows is through his so if you
found a now in that in the animal
presumably it came through the the vash
it made its way into the some somehow it
punctured a hole so they certainly
weren't going to be m but at the same
But they didn't want to say it's why not
in the case where the mak was found in
the lungs they said it was. So how come
it's if it's found in this bronchial
tube that's attached to the lungs why
over here is a mut said
if it's in the lungs so then it's
actually more that it came from the into
the lungs. But if you find it in this
tube then just based on the mitas that's
a very unlikely scenario.
But what makes more sense is to assume
that it came in through the ka I mean
even the rau are acknowledging the fact
that there's no hole in the so now you
have it in this bronchial tube there's
no hole in the it makes more sense even
according to them that it came in
through the ko it didn't come in through
the vet ex so we learned today in
somewhat greater detail the of
on the short on the bottom of
and today we saw the the more extended
version of it. As we mentioned when we
learned to the first time that the
are really from a practical standpoint
the most important as it relates to in
fact says as follows in the beginning of
a live
so even though we're learning and we've
come into contact with so many different
types of traus but at the same time
after you an animal you don't have to go
searching for tus you're allowed to
assume that the animal doesn't have a
The only body part that you have to go
proactively and check is the
you have to go ahead and check if
there's aarily
is an uncommon thing. As a result
that they don't have you don't have to
check when it comes to the
then you have to check and the reason is
because for an animal to have a is
actually common it's not uncommon you
don't have a you don't have a that it
doesn't have a and it's for that reason
you have no choice but to check the
later in goes into somewhat detail as
far as how is it you're supposed to
check it says the
Right after the
shacks the animal. So they hang the
animal up on its hind legs and now comes
in.
He sticks his hand into the behemoth.
You should do it quickly.
And he feels around the ray. Again, he
only has to check the ray. You don't
have to check any other part of the
animal. You're not checking the cable,
the keras, the hems, the basis. The only
thing you're checking is the ray. So he
takes his hand and he feels the outer
part of the
if he feels that something detached
meaning there was a little bit of
friction he had to go through something
then clearly there was a there
he takes the out and now he has to do
another exam if he sees that in fact it
was a circle he'll be able to see it he
must say
then he'll find it'll be the be on the
wall of the ray it will be on the wall
of the dyen and then he knows it's a
problem if he can easily tell that it's
not a circle then the knows this
then it's going to be a caution says the
only time you should ever be if you feel
anything even if you inspect it and you
see it's really not is only if it's a
and
you have to make sure that the person
doing the says this would seem to be the
basic
Just based on the we learned that an
animal that has a raya with a it's a
problem. It's a how do you know if it
has a you have to check. This is the one
tra you have to proactively go ahead and
check. The is going to stick his hand
into the ray while it's still in the
animal. He's going to feel around it. If
he feels that there's something sticky,
a little gooey, there's something there.
So he pulls it out. He can see in a
second if it's a or not. Gives you a
little sim to know how it's a circa. If
it's a
then [snorts] the is we assume that it's
it's a problem. There's no more to do
like said and the animals going to be a
tra stating that says the
however there are those that are
meaning the not the he's the inspector.
So he just took the rhea out. There was
clearly a circle. It's not just rear.
It's not like a little foam that just is
easily going to be removed. There's
something there, right? So he takes it
out according to the it's a problem.
It's a says there are those that are m
to rub it and to squeeze it a little
bit. They say as follows if you have a
real
even if you rub it the whole day it's
never going to it's never going to
break. And it's for that reason.
What they do is is they'll start rubbing
it and they'll see if it's going to
snap, if it's going to come off, if it's
going to come off then
they say that's not a rear. It's only a
rear. So according to the
only way you can have an animal doesn't
have a if you know for sure it's a rear.
There's a very obvious difference
between a rear and a cir is the bad
version. The rear is the okay version.
But it's easy to the naked eye you'll
know it. So as a result says of what
you're looking at is it's attached to
the it's over done. There's nothing to
do says there are those that are there
are those that they have that you can
rub all day and it's not going to come
off. So even if it's attached to it but
rub it start working with it a little
bit and if it comes off that's that it's
not really a says
even though this is a phenomenal
that's the meaning amongst the
and you should not be
because at the end of the day they have
what to be
but at the same time says
you have to make sure that
He has to make sure that when he does
this he does it properly.
He shouldn't do it with force. Then the
continues and he says
there are people that they do this with
all the circus except for the that was
the rose that's on that's that's on that
part of the lung.
Additionally, there are those that
and there are those that I'll make with
this
I think you should be with this
and in fact I'll go even further says
and I don't think you should rely on
this to any that's mentioned before. So
for example
that was man days on the bottom don't
rely on this cooler when it comes to
that
being that it's a
we had the ram that's in the this is
I think that's more than a that we only
know that's not but the bottom line is
says I've seen this that people start
rubbing and feeling the the and if it
comes off or if it snaps they think
that's a I don't really like it that
much but at the same time it's already
and
stating that says I think you shouldn't
rely on it for that's so if you're
dealing with two
or the that's on the the rose ear of the
lung I wouldn't rely on it for that
either but at the same time says the
I've I've observed
I found that nobody pays attention to
this and the reality is that they rely
on this even for the
I think the proper thing is is to be
said
unless he dealing with then says
something very important he says
even the ones do this. They only do it
for the older animals. But for younger
animals, for younger animals, they don't
rely on this. And the reason is because
there's a that being that the animal is
so young. So the even if it was a real
would maybe remove it. But the bottom
line is is we have over here
and the right now after the he's going
to inspect the how this inspection
works. According to the B if there's a
cir it's over done unless it's a rear
which would be very easy to identify
it's 100% going to be a problem there
happen to be a few exceptions in the
BF's world but there
but high level according to the way he
says it in is that if there's a it's
automatically pro says a tremendous
he refers to it as a doesn't love it he
says and that is that they do they rub
this again and again to see whether or
not this is going to it's going to come
off. The assumption is that if it snaps
to the cir that's a that it's not a real
that's a that it's not a real says some
people are only for certain circus the
ones that are not others are even for
the ones that are you could tell the
thought that this was a it's a
tremendous with regards to the circ that
are in the but at the end of the day
gave us a koa and in theory if somebody
wanted to jump on this this is something
that we can rely now it's interesting to
note that this is And like most really
is the the
comes from a rush. But regardless the
follows the raj was from the great the
follows the rush who was from the great
but the bottom line is is two is two so
to speak how you're supposed to check
the on the now a few things. The first
thing is is that it's interesting to
note that as it relates to and as you
would expect the
follow and the follow and therefore
there was a that was certainly prevalent
like Ramas said he observed it in Kraka
where he lived where people relied on
this mishmush but the process of
mishmush changed it was altered it
evolved with time and the way it's done
today is not but it's what's referred to
as kilov. So kilov is a little
different. What the can do today is they
try to peel off the they peel it off
with a fingernail or with some implement
and the assumption is that if the peels
off that's a that's not a real that's a
very
said rub it and if you can rub it and
it's going to snap that's a that it's
not a but to peel it off maybe it's it's
a but you just somehow have an ability
to to peel it off and the truth is that
when this minig of kilos that's what
it's referred to by the pisk started a
tremendous tumml a tremendous tumo broke
out and if you want to take a look in
the safer bas the base of it was written
in the 19th century and it's considered
the magnumopus of hus specifically this
is the the
he was a kadm and either way the brings
a little bit of the history I'll just
read to you from what he says
about 100 years ago so if this is being
written in the 19th century it's so 100
years earlier sometime in the 18th
century
And it started as far as he knows in the
city of Prague.
They try to remove the with their
fingernails and the assumption is that
if it comes off that's a that it's not a
real
and they were all they had a big
problem. Who would these
were?
He says in fact the primag wrote
that any
that relies on assuming that the doesn't
have a because he was able to peel it
off with his fingernail is
unbelievable
and they wanted to remove these
they said if they're going to rely on
this it's a very big problem
now They felt not that way.
It's interesting. Sounds like they used
power.
There was some nepotism involved and
they were able to somehow use their
influence to make it that would not lose
their job.
And that's why the m somehow got out.
Listen to this.
People don't even remember that there
was one. This was so controversial says
the people forgot about it
because of that the people that knew the
rest of the story they knew that this is
very controversial that the hel that any
that packages his meat and sells it he's
being they felt they had to be he says
the first person that was going
he Rabbama Margolus say his uncle and
basically he said as far he said that
from the fact that the peels off so
easily that's a that the is not coming
from the lungs but rather it's from a
piece of flesh that must have caught on
to the outer membrane of the lung
something developed there that created
the and that's why it's not an issue
meaning said that obviously there's a
rationale and the rale is is that a is a
problem when it comes from the inside of
the lung because then you assume nik
that's why it's a problem but let's say
something attached itself to the outside
of the lung and then from the other
circa developed it wouldn't be a problem
and he said that's where this is coming
from and there was precedence from it a
story that's brought down in the croom
of rhinos that's a whole another story
but the bottom line is that there's
precedence for such a concept that if
you know for sure that the s is not
coming internally but it's from some
external superficial part along then
it's not going to be a problem and it
was based on that that they wanted to go
ahead and be it's interesting the wrote
a trua about this.
It's called
and he starts off as follows regarding
the
everybody was very bothered by this. I
don't understand the incidentally right
here brings a lot of this rate. He
[snorts] said
I wasn't happy with this.
So I read what he wrote about this when
he was on the people that rely on this
and
says he's so happy that he was able to
be
says it always bothered me how people
were able to do it and he sees that
there's a there's a good mahal and then
he quotes the this mahalik of the of
which is approximately what we just
mentioned. And at the end says
if someone wants to be with this
[snorts]
but let do whatever needs to do. So in
his chuva was m based on what he heard
from the base of Frank. It's interesting
always held
and here the was okay with this kilo
which at first glance sounds like a
kadesh right based on is whatever but
the point is is the came around to
reframe. So I'll just read to you what
the fears at the end he says
and this is what we rely on even though
the at the end of the day they couldn't
reach a consensus
to remove the
it's
you can't say they're all doing
something wrong.
We're gonna go now and we're gonna be on
you saw that everybody's eating not
possible
and he says the truth is if you look at
animals today most of them
says I want to ask you a question says
right that's what the says right in the
beginning
how can you say it's not true if a deems
an animal a trace then beerus right in
fact
the say it's not possible says the
it must be that these are really not and
it's a to the ones that are and at the
end he says as follows
the is like the ones that are being
very interesting someone that's
going to be
on him and as a result let's not be
matur let's be me let's have an and
we're going to rely on the mak and
that's the reality the reality is today
the people that follow the they rely on
they don't just say because it's a
that's it then on arrival but rather
they do testing the discuss the testing
of mishmush today the testing that's
done is the testing of kilov despite the
fact that if you go back historically it
was something that was considered very
very controversial either way we'll Stop
here and yes will pick up part two