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Today's we are at the Mishna in the middle of The second par is learning about how is related to we don't take that for granted because there was a rather intense to digression last week when we were not learning about the halas of but as we already did in the last which is return to the regular program we're going to continue with the theme of parash more stating that today's that you would expect to find more than we're going to see a lot of a lot of meat and potato tucked away right here. And on that note, something foreign. So somebody is a regular but he'sing on behalf of a guy the owner of the animal is an iss going to be possible if the entire was from but even if The is sheing the animal for himself and for the whereas the is going to keep all the kosher food but the fact that it's only that that's going to go to still it's going to be possible why this is an explanation of the entire it's because the of a guy any single time even is that he wants to bear. And if somebody be a thing that was slaughtered is going to be here in the whether the entire animal is going to be or he's only going to get a part such as it's going to be possible. Now if you think about it is saying number one he's saying that's we can hear saying much bigger he's saying that even though is not the one that it's the but being that is for the is an idea that if I'm the of this animal my matters and we assume that my and it's for that reason is that This carbon is going to be disagrees. But as it relates to he said makes no sense what just said when it comes to all the different negatively impact is the one that's doing that. So if you're doing the you're doing the is when it comes to we are you don't find anywhere have the ability to negatively impact a garden. Isn't it so obvious that the only person to be able to negatively impact an animal would be the himself. So if the is a kid and he is is not going to be for then there's no way that the who's the owner of it he's going to be the [laughter] beneficiary of it whether all of it or part of it should have the ability to negatively impact it says it's something that really goes against everything that we know about in the world of It's not [laughter] who could have but it goes without saying that when it comes to it's going to be the same way. So the now is obviously explaining that's what every that follows a Mishna does and the beer of the as we'll see will be divided into a few different groups. But first things first, when you look at the Mishna from a high level, the Mishna is discussing what? The mission is discussing on behalf of behalf of an a pagan. He's somebody that worshiped some sort of whether or not one's allowed to eat the meat of this animal or not. So you would think it's okay. The issue here is that he on behalf of and you look at the it sounds like there's three introduced the topic by saying even explain himself and then said I don't understand how it's possible that Reuben does a and then it's not but and his mash is going to negatively impact. In other words, he holds. So really the unspoken question that's bothering the is it sounds like just from the names of the Mishna that there are three shas but when you drill down into it it sounds like there are only two shas but there's three names there must be three shas. So we have to figure out what the three shas are number one and number two what exactly is the over here says how many the first two said who was those who they hold like he's a famous sheep He said that in the world of it's not only the but the could be as well. Okay. So the tano and both hold we have to tease this apart carefully stating that what's the hold that so there is a concept where one person is doing the and the other person can have the that's going to negatively impact the but it's only if you know for sure that he had that so if we would hear for example in the case of our that [laughter] who's not But he is the pilot said that I want this to be for my that would be a problem. But why you know why? Because doesn't subscribe to this idea that we assume for sure as also holds like but even if we didn't hear where he just uh was didn't say a So like that is a concept is an institution. What then is the say do [laughter] you say do you say or do you not clearly said yeah say no even if we heard if we know for sure that that would be the number three and he said even if we heard that he had by the way just the you heard you This sounds a lot like the we need to speak to people that. But either way, even though we know there's no such concept, there's no such thing. You're not going to have such a thing when it comes to either way. What's the first Mishna? The first in Mishna is that there are three. Three names sort of suggested three shaser. It's easy math. There must be three opinions in the what are the three opinions in the holds that if somebody and has it's going to be off limits based on the fact that this is considered himself didn't have this doesn't matter if however we didn't hear him say it the was just standing on the side watching this all play out. We're not going to assume they had the second he agrees with the premise that there's an idea that but he takes it a step further not a step further in the but it's a step further because he has another and so even if you didn't inherit it it's going to be a problem came and said that even if you HEARD IT HE'S THE OPPOSITE EXTREME it's going to be okay. He doesn't there's no such idea of so that's the [laughter] if he spoke it out and even if he spoke it out and certainly it's going to be says this was the first in terms of what exactly The three are what exactly they're arguing about others said that is between the first is talking about not in a case of that that was the explanation in the first but rather where we know for sure that it's true [laughter] when do we says that's when it comes to its and you know [laughter] we don't tr but this is over here you don't have such okay then no is that we do learn and therefore if you heard is that it's going to be possible. And by the way, even if you didn't hear it, it's going to be because [laughter] that not only do we say there's no such idea of because he does not subscribe to the idea of so what's the second is again and that's between the first he says even by he doesn't agree with the idea of okay but what is the between the is not where do you say the is even when you heard the is whether there's an idea Just like there is or not says there is not and therefore even if you heard the foolish scream from the rooftops that I want this to bear well if you wanted to bear you should have brought a knife and you should have the fact that you hired me this is this is not something that you're able to do and therefore even again if you heard say it's going to be disagrees. He holds that true and being that holds THAT EVEN holds that the concept of true is always going to be possible. Okay. So what is the three sheep this time? Let's read the according to the all cases all cases whether we heard him whether we didn't hear him because there's no such thing but it's not says no there is such a thing and by the way even if you didn't hear him say a word he heard the arguing and one thing he saw they were in agreement with and that is that when it comes to this conversation is there on arrival because there's no such concept. Certainly when it comes to there's going to be no such concept at all. If you notice there's so many ways you can compare and contrast the obvious how you learn today how exactly you learnish. But if you notice the two are all in the tan in both there's a concept of by and by and even in both of the opinion there's no such thing of not and not even the and for that reason whether we heard him say or we didn't hear him There's no question the world is going to be the two are manifest all in the according to the first hold that and but only the is which obviously manifests itself very much inside according to The second the upholds that but it's only true it's never true. So the between the two and the is the both right that's clear of both the [snorts] is does it translate to or does it not translate that is the just one thing because when you learn so again the mercy is it sounds like the but here we see clearly the it's also the because really that emerged that emerged according to both the opinion of this is not such a far-fetched as we might have thought it is because of this tucked away in paris who went either way moving along So, and he did it to do this. Let's get a case. Somebody did a not the shame of what did the shame did the shame the crazy right want to eat and that's why he's doing that he says you know something instead of taking the whatever I'm going to take the I'm going to do this is my opportunity to lose my whole this is what he decided he want or he's going to take the which he's not going to eat anyways and he's going to put put it on the grill. He's going to be so somebody went ahead, he did the but the punch of the case is that he's not doing he's doing to do with this animal says that is going to be it's considered and even though was but was >> [laughter] >> says it because you can have a while you're doing one to do another and that's going to be considered meaning we don't say that the only time a could render an is if the was that I'm doing should be done away If I do an with a even to do another that is going to be an issue explain this a little better if I'm not doing an I have that I'm going to do which is called I have to be doing an in order to create a but doesn't have to be that as long as I'm doing an to do even [laughter] a different that's going to be initial and how do I know that says It's because we learn from the you know where you see it you see it by every well not every but you see it by some of what's to be to do If somebody does, if you think about it, [laughter] you're really being [laughter] there's a concept of just like you find it. He says, he says that if somebody is why there's no such thing as I when it comes to that such [ __ ] he did and he did it with the right but he did it with to do this. So he's doing the he did that perfectly but while he was doing the perfectly he had wanted to do this says it's possible here we don't say because we're dealing with but we learn the laws of from the laws of just like when it comes to pickle there's a concept of when it comes English one because you can't you can't learn from other words [laughter] regarding another case where somebody was shot who holds says it's going to be says and I needed to argue in both of those cases. You could have thought that why do we need both cases? Why have to argue and again isn't it holds argue in one case and I'll know the other cases because I only had the first [laughter] I would do this and I would have known over there. Yeah. No, I would have said that because even though you find the [laughter] by the concept of maybe it's not true [laughter] between see the first part of today's but when it comes to having a while you're doing a different So I'm doing a mind because but had I only known as relates to so it's true as it relates to I would know everything I need to know Certainly I would cover when it comes to that reason we had to know this in both of these faces. The bottom line is we have What are the cases? The cases are a case and a case. says somebody and he had it to do or I could have a bad about and therefore it's considered which is if while he was doing the he would have in mind that'd be a problem if he did a and I don't want it be a problem. But he did and he had to do the other case. This case is where somebody was doing but he had to do this is going to be a problem was fine. have not what is that is [laughter] a case that everybody agrees that's the right case and that is the case of pickle not every case of but the cases of where somebody did one of the to [laughter] so for sure there's a case in that is rooted in the longness of the question is could we apply it or could we not apply it and really is that you can apply it to the extreme and that you cannot apply it to the extreme you can apply it that's not so extreme meaning just like that's not such a leak but you can go even further than that I want us to do this which is even then you can apply. So says I see I'm apply all the way to the right and says just the opposite. I see the world 180 degrees from I think I see this and I'm applying it nowhere or all the way to the left zero. It's true. is a concept in but it's only true HERE that yes but to go ahead and say no and certainly no in the event that you would go ahead and you would say that I'm doing this as our which is why we're having this conversation right now and As we'll see the is going to ask is a so when you're learning in real time so asking this every sometimes more flip-flop sometimes it's done in a very sequential way. heard with regards to [laughter] and then the so heard the whole between and he made the following comment. He said there's a basic concept. in it says what did he said by there's an idea of but there's no such didn't he mean what I think we thought he meant and that is when it comes to there's no such concept of he could have meant you know why because we're not talking direct WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THERE'S NO question we learned in a studio in the [laughter] that concept of rendering. In other words, that is not an it has to be that doesn't mean what we thought he meant when we read in real time. So what did he mean? He must have met. which has a world of and that is you can still say when it comes to even though there [laughter] is a concept but The only time you can then certainly should be but what's the bottom line says what do you see from you see from [laughter] that when it comes to there's a concept of when it comes to there's no concept of say if that's the So we said is from sea to shining. So we set it up like this. You always say One is cool and the other is you always say just the opposite because you never say you see that you cut the baby in half because it comes and when it comes to [laughter] that's the whole set There's no but the bottom line is that whe And you see from the now truth is like this actually asks a very obvious question and that is again we set this up that holds we said there's one case for sure and that is so maybe that's when you find a case of Where do you find still that you don't find you don't even have the case of that's the way it should be but says that it can't be the you know why was if was referring to He wouldn't have said he would have said is way more serious than means the government is possible means if you eat from the flesh it's pig it's a way so he didn't mean to what did he mean What do you see from that in the case of he holds like in the case of he that's the case? You know why? from because you can always say before we'll go with the first and that is maybe before he learned the from so what he knew so before the didn't know so that you could hold that even Shishna is stand corrected. I didn't realize. So as it relates the he said everything you need to know. So that's the case. So says who asked himself he said that let's be honest didn't say a word about we backed into the right but we backed into it because you can't take saying that by you know there's something called right But there is a concept of and that is so what did he mean when he was comparing and contrasting [laughter] versus what we said was that what he meant was but says because I think you have to say differently the distinction was making in the between and from that distinction deriving that is more when it comes to costume than was based on something else and that is this is 101 when it comes to Allah only have so when it comes to although you find the concept but it's only by two certainly should be that only the should be able to have so what was saying had nothing to do there's no there's no there's no at all The distinction that was making was that you find in the world of versus as it relates to how many you could [laughter] have and it's going to be a problem when it comes to the when it comes to it's only two which says those are the two why says it's based on the says which suggests that is a thing a bad thing obviously and the also says this is a so in the context of so it's talking about so you see you can only have by those two things and that was the basis for the is a postcript of this discussion of rights that support and he did it with the intention to do it. There he is. You see clearly that even though the was not you only did the in itself is considered last part of the different The case is and after he had bear we're not having this conversation. That's that's over here. He had the after history. This was a real story that happened. There was a butcher. And after he said, "You know what? I have in mind I wanted that to be the story took place in history." And the did not want to oine. They abstain. They don't want to say it's they don't want to say it's I'm going to tell you what I think the rest of the story is. They don't want to say because of the sheet of the what's the sheet of that we don't say that Therefore, they don't want to say that was the but at the same time they also didn't want to say because of the being that she is said to just go ahead this was something that they didn't want to truth is it's very mysterious what does that even mean first of all it doesn't look like anyone was so sensitive to the but certainly when I came to see the in that talks about the final moments of the life of le was very disappointed that nobody gave him any covenant [laughter] during the latter part of his life And in a footnote and one of his says this that we're going to save for another day, but either way says the a real life story that took place in where and afterwards and living in history and he's uh hearing the story and he's he's analyzing a little bit. He said I think what's going on over here? I think the in history for whatever reason was sensitive to the and the so that you don't say but at the same time it's for that reason they don't want to say now this is not a this is a but it's a that's So obviously it's one in the same I don't know if this is a two I [laughter] don't think that could be the kind of come on and hold but it could be that's only that's only when as far as we know he never had but over here where after HE SAID CLEARLY THAT I WELL, so now this is not anymore. I did it after [laughter] the fact. True, but it's not. It's not like doing is also not. I don't necessarily know [laughter] and alternatively you can go the other way as well as our amazing thing that even though IN THE YEAR A MINUTE LATER, A SECOND LATER, HE said we give him the benefit of the doubt that at the time that's not what he was thinking. A second [laughter] later and he decided that this what this is what he wants to do. But the point is so is not a perfect. So to suggest [laughter] that that's the rest of the story, it seems a little bit farfetched. I don't think the good said it's here that he did have afterwards and said everybody is I don't think that it's a it's a perfect let me take another attempt to explain what was going on in that story but this is a fascinating uh little episode where and are told about some story that took place in history and they're trying to [laughter] figure out what might the He said I think the reason he didn't say and notice he didn't say so that we are going to have to look into but not because it was so that's gonna be from here but before that Rash just gives us a little bit of a sneak pref just to be able even go higher actually says we're going to see now has a something called that even if I don't know in real time what a person is thinking but if he shows his cards a little bit later we don't just assume that that's what he was thinking later but what he was thinking later is a glo what he was thinking earlier this falls into the world of Mafraa to the world things like this. But there's a concept and it's from who holds and the reason that the didn't want to was because of the sensitivity had that they felt that if this even though we didn't but if afterwards [laughter] he said yeah we shouldn't This is something we need to be sensitive to. says, "Who is this? Where we find that says this was a person that was healthy and he said one day writing that for my wife says the we assume that this husband is just playing quote unquote with his wife." Rashi says, "What does that mean?" He's playing his wife in the mail. He's saying right back to my wife. So Rashi says that you know back in the day if people would go on a business trip you know you would end up in Parish is uh you know maybe one of the stories that go down you know you could always become a part of history. Every woman whose husband left the house was a safer on some level. So what the husbands would very often do is the husband would write again tonight because like this she knows that if he doesn't show up she'll be able to get married or by the way sometimes they would do it because she shouldn't fully evil but the bottom line is is that it was not so uncommon for a man to just give a a get to his wife be not because he wants to divorce her but simply because of preventing some sort of catastrophe in the future. Right? What's the perfect example for that? get right. There's a concept of people when they put themselves in vulnerable situations, they would prepare themselves and one of the things they did was is they would try to get to their wife. But the point is if somebody says we assume that he was just uh trying to plate his wife. What's the point? [laughter] The point is the cipher can't go and take the guy and actually give it to his wife. When would the be able to take the guy and give it to his wife? He would he would say kiss. knew he said to know he's playing games. He means business. So if he just [laughter] says then we say but if he says to say I'll tell you a real life story that supports this idea was a healthy person said he went to the roof that supports he jumped off the roof is the going to be a guest. Me, we assumed that when he said kiss, he meant to give it cuz he wanted his wife to be divorced and not to be in probably not the full end killing himself right afterwards. But if this was an accident, it's not going to be okay. This is an issue as the on. And then you're bringing a story which is supposed to support and actually contradicts the household. The was period. There's no qualifications. We don't say you went to the roof and it was windy. Wasn't windy. This is where it DEPENDED IF he was and if not. So if there's a distinction to be had then when the presented should presented with a distinction. The Mishna presented with no distinction AND THEN IN THE of distinction. So it doesn't make any sense. There's no choice. You have to do reconstructive surgery on this. And here we go. However, he does something afterwards, which is why you know what? probably wasn't just being mas but he probably meant business owners. Well, then I guess and even though we never said no, he only said the story for whoever it is the would be able to go ahead and get a story. But what do you see from here? We need one thing from now. read one thing where he said he said it where man went he said his but he didn't say IF AFTERWARDS IT'S THAT HE MEANT to really give the guy THEN WE SAY THAT EVEN though he didn't say he meant to say and is going to be a guy so could be that's what went on in this story the reason that didn't want to be there was and over here with me. That's why over there even though it's true there's an element of but there was something that happened in real time. He's that peaceful. He just didn't say to know when the in real time he did it with all the right afterwards he said what he said where there's no evidence of anything in real time. I don't think that's a good a different if somebody writes over all his assets to somebody else. But somebody goes one day and he says and this person amongst all his sounds like he had a real uh diverse portfolio. One of the things that he had was is he had this person who the recipient said he's a moralist he doesn't want he wants everything wants the real estate he wants everything else he just doesn't want the so is like if this second guy the recipient the beneficiary the man just won the lottery if this person The reason is cuz even if he says I don't want you have to take it. We're forcing him to take it which by the way if he says that I don't want it what does this mean? It means that the never crossed. So that even if the mat died, it's still not going to go to the it's going to go to his yard. But the bottom line is does not go over. So we have here interesting and if somebody gives over all his to somebody the president I just don't want the according to one he doesn't have to take so like they analyze this price and they said YEAH HOW CAN YOU KNOW the person screaming on top of his bones that he doesn't see on top of his rail he doesn't want it he uh there's no way in the world you should be able the force of the day is that it let me explain to you what's going on. If this person from the onset was like I don't want that then we can free the slaves. I'm not going to do it with this. I don't want y everybody agrees he's not this choice. The person says that I can use a few extra sets of hands in the kitchen and he says I'm going to take it and then afterwards he said you know something I didn't mean it. I didn't want it. He was a disciplin everybody agrees to beg where the person who gave the right gave it to somebody else. He gave it to a third person. So somebody goes over just visualize this to a third person right [snorts] he says uh yeah good news I have bad news. The good news is I'm taking all my I'm giving it to you. The bad news is you're taking it as a to somebody else right [laughter] away. That's what happened over here. So the case is where he gave it to one person to be on behalf of somebody else. Okay. And the recipient the real person who was supposed to get it was he didn't say one word. Well then LATER WHEN HE GOT IN HIS own hand then he started crying says the got the case digressed there for a second. The case is where the mat gave [laughter] the to a third person but the real recipient the real recipient was standing there and didn't say one WORD BUT WHEN HE GOT [laughter] IN HIS HAND THAT'S when he m went ballistic he WENT BUNKERS AND HE taking the so he was quiet when the noise came up and gave it to the middle man at that point he was going it got And now he's screaming. Well, guess what? You can't be something you have the option to do. We say the reason he didn't scream earlier is [laughter] I'll scream when IT'S TIME TO SCREAM. DON'T WORRY, the guy shouldn't shine. And what you'll hear from me before this story I'm going to scream now right now it's an insect wait but IT COMES TO ME THAT'S when I'm going to scream I'll make my noise [snorts] I have no but the bottom line is says the way the explained it that the of why is that if he wants to scream later he has the right to do it because even though he was when he received but this concept You see clearly that there's something cool that SEE WAS SHOT IN REAL TIME. HE DID NOTHING. HE DIDN'T SHOW ANYTHING. BACK HE PROBABLY WANTS THESE right but at the same time when he saw back later there's an idea that he was what really was going on in his mind and this is the reason in history they didn't want to be makeup as even though didn't have any as far as we know by the time but afterwards he did so in the world of Russia they were so discussed. Okay, so that explains why they didn't want to be. So why would they just like if you're sensitive to the like the question you can say because it sounds like right in that could be sensitive to both but speaker says one extra and that is that it could be that even though it's true that there's something called but this to say that when it comes to when it comes to and being it's true sometimes right it is what it is but we judge a person and to stay on who as far as we know was and then later [laughter] he s could be so even though it's true if we're sensitive to but say that it's that I'm not so sure and therefore the state is [laughter] based on it's not only the sensit that they were being sensitive to regardless this concludes the story. So just some postcripts related to today's going back which means what we don't say these Arab merchants they came to a place called they gave their uh alen their male sheep to Jewish butchers says, "So they figured they'll get their animals the way they needed." So they go to the Jewish butchers and this is what they told him. We want the blood and we want the you can take the skin and you can even take the B. You know, Rashi said they needed a but they didn't need a bus because they were actually giving the possibility to eat it. What they wanted was the Now, what were they going to do with the D and the use, right? That's what they wanted the blood and the fats that they wanted the meat. They wanted steak, but that's not what it was for. They wanted the dam and they wanted the the could who's getting to keep the meat and he says we know would he be able to keep this? So the say so there's no question you want me because even in the worst case scenario that these were having in your mind at the time they're going to take them down the doesn't matter it's neither here nor there because at the end of the day that is like it's the only of theash and holds that additionally according to who holds that if somebody for a guy even if the guy is only a minority partner so to speak in the animal he has this whole iss that little bit of ownership that he has throws this whole thing off asked what would be according to if it was if a guy would give a and the reason he gave me was cuz he's going to want to be something what's do we say then now the whole animal is going to be possible because he had what's the what's the why not I mean he's a right he's buying it so says that it could be only means when you're in the actual animal So for example and go to the shook together and they buy an animal or other example is where own an animal and he sells it to the so there he's an owner of the good but when the bought the animal by himself and now you're just giving me money to get some steak in the animal right to get some steak in the animal it could be over there it's going to be DIFFERENT OR MAYBE NOT THAT was we look at the situation If the guy who bought it is a tough guy or if the says you know something I don't want to give you me take your money back or take something else then it's awesome. If he can't be then he owns the real Bible it's going to be if not not then if not if you tell him your head and your mountain. So don't try this at home. I mean, unless maybe if you guys really not in a shalom, but basically tell [laughter] them here's your head. Here's the mountain. Knock your head in the mountain and uh whatever. Let me know how it goes. But the bottom line is report back, please. Uh and rinse and repeat three times a day for a week. See how you feel. But the bottom line is is that says the really tall if he's a tough guy or not. It's interesting how the toughness of what now is a big rash over here says well it's probably the tough guy to me it's totally kindness it's totally it's beyond the scope of today's like this today's was a real and we can really uh drill into some but I think you know the doc was so intense the last several days and just to end with one very very light note extremely light leaving the red on the table and it's light related really to yesterday's what was the lightest part of yesterday's stuff I think it was where he told him what did say regarding I'll tell you what said regarding >> [clears throat] >> But health that you need to see so much life by that the animal actually has to move its EAR is already considered as long as it's not something that's a sign of death by process of any movement as subtle as it might be that in itself is is going to be okay. We mentioned that is the is the ether and depending on which gear you prefer. But told the of it's that you need so much referred to as abs referred to ra as I mean he's known as so used to refer to ra as abba out and of respect. So we know abba is a washion of respect. people called their father Aba. But once upon a time even a rabbi of of would be referred to as abash right you find the word aba mentioned several times in sh and given as a a title a moniker to a lot of so you find the concept of and when referred to as he was doing says I think it's just the opposite I think that the reason referred to as aba is probably because that was his In fact, Ra is known as Rav out of respect, out of cover. And really, that's why throughout Shaz, it's always Rav. And the reason it's always is because this is what we refer to. Who's the only person that you would think could refer to Ra by his real name, his right? Someone is his nemesis, right? SOMEBODY WHO WAS SO CLOSE TO THEM. SO I THINK IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE. I THINK'S REAL name of WAS AND THAT'S WHY that you find is referring to and this is when brings us he doesn't say this on his own he brings it in the name of the and that's why if you take a look at all the story of from the to and everybody in between's name always goes down as being in fact if you're looking to And you want to see the biography. So don't look on the look on the it's right in the beginning. He's very tall and he's known as but the bottom line is quoting the says that you want to know what's real name was real name was referred to as that was his name. So here's the question that referred to as so what was real name what was his name he's referred to as [snorts] he's referred to so what is his name according to his name is he's known as Rav according to so what is R's name this is the question that we are pondering today as I found in this is one of the of so tucked away in the end of one of his pieces he asks this question according to Rashi what was Rav's real name and you know what he says Rob's real name was he says he believes that according to Rashi Rob's real name was Rav he said then you're going to look at me and you're going to tell me that we ever find in your life whose name was I'm going to tell you there's a mentions whose name was said that talks about someone whose name was in mentions and that's not the famous son in there's a roy by bottom line says there are many places in chas where you find people whose name IS AND IT'S NOT REFERRING TO THE NOW WE ALWAYS assume that the was called BECAUSE HE WAS CALLED THAT'S WHY HE'S REFERRED to a mistake because this cler that HAD THE NAME SO I HOPE THAT ACCORDING TO RASHI that was a co so what was Rob's REAL NAME HIS NAME WAS PROBABLY RA AND BY THE WAY, you'll tell me they referred to as Ra. Actually makes a lot of sense because they referred to as didn't have any. It's not rebu. HE WAS KNOWN AS SO. It makes a lot of sense that would be known by his name just like was known by his name. [laughter] AND IT MAKES SO MUCH sense also because if in world is really so does it make sense that milian co would refer to instead of known as you refer to HIM AS THAT'S A DOWNGRADE IF MEANS FROM SO YOU'RE CALLING ME EVERY KID CALLS HIS FATHER. SO what kind of a is that? That's not that's a tremendous downgrade. THE TERANCE IS BECAUSE RA WAS HIS NAME AND WHEN REFERRED TO as he's UPGRADING IT HE'S UNCOVERING AND HE'S GOING TO TELL ME WHY DON'T WE HAVE A TIRE BUT WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME WHERE YOU EVER FIND THE NAME in your LIFE I'M GOING [laughter] TO TELL YOU where you found in your life you found all these different on that fascinating brew there's always a punch line he says I think I have a to this and it's from in the sus is discussing is related to this is some real Arabic and he went to a certain city and he saw that there was a and this had a and based on that they were being mocked it. So Rav took a a stick and he hit it and it uh fell down and he said based on this this is not a this is not a muff only he said he said that I know that even though you knock down this didn't have the ability to stand but there's still a dele over there and the dele still suffices as being a so turns to rev kuna And he tells him, he said, "You saw the dec." And you think that I haven't seen the I ALSO SAW THE I hope that it's still going to be a problem. Rav turns to and he speaks in third person. Rais if RAV was known as Rav because he was RAMB says I think this is a riot for my idea and that is that you want to know you want to know what Ra's real name was Rav's real name was Rav and that's the [laughter] between Rashi and Rashi Behold that GOD'S NAME WAS HE WAS called just the opposite. His name was and the reason he was called he was called because he was just one and that is says asking [laughter] something said. So usually they have a murder when ask [laughter] with the exception of bother me that holds that Rav was where did Rashi get there that Rav is ravaged a funny [ __ ] He was ravaged for probably because he was probably because he was ravaged. The truth is is in the second that Ira of is not name was the name. that the name was like these for that reason that it was called and he said that came from Rome interesting BUT HE SAID I THAT THIS is the way it is so says foolish that the name that got was similar The name it came from being I remember many years ago I was there and I discussed the visit. It was the first time that I met him. So I prepared something based on and I was saying how was called and I I told him I think it's on this he told me it's [laughter] that he was playing on the Where? Where else did Rash get this idea of him being this for always name was not because his name was because Rav Ben right that was the name that he got by HIS NAME WAS RAV just like and some others that you find throughout AND THIS IS RASHI IF that's the case you [laughter] would have to say that maybe Rashi is just like a play on words a little bit but doesn't mean The response [snorts] says it but the response is quoting the in the his name is why is he called same way as she's the same exact way with his what would emerge is that ration is more like a pun but not [laughter] that name is because he open might be but the real reason he was known as rap is maybe simply because his name was also he's the one person known as rap even though his name is such a his name was walking away with What's just push it on the bio of according to R's name was his biological name was Rav he was known as according to just the opposite his name was and he was known as Rav because he was