Chulin 104

Today's isalid and we are hashem in the beginning of a new perk the eighth per of per three lines from the bottom of kiml. So peracola bosser believe it or not might be the peric in me. So there's a lot of candidates for what the peric with the within the maka with the isabaser is definitely a finalist. The topic of peracabasar is the laws of Basar which very much is a continuation of the latter part of pericidasha which discussed is related to of so let's just set this up a tiny bit and then in today's raid we'll talk a lot more about the isob and in the coming and in the coming raid we will double and triple down on that. So everyone knows that a Jew is not eat meat and milk together. Truth is this is one of the biggest in the entire fact it's a why because meat you're allowed to eat and milk you're allowed to drink. Yet if you created a taru voice of baser and together all of a sudden this new found becomes asser on the level of on the level of on the level of the of the all the things that the says you not let falls into that same exact category. It's interesting the doesn't say anywhere that you not let together. What the does say is you're not allowed to cook a goat in its mother's milk. Or more simply, you're not allowed to cook meat and milk together. But the doesn't just say once. It doesn't even only say it twice. It says it's says three times in the it's in parish. It's in parasa and it was in last week's para in par as well. And from the fact that the said three times I learned that one time is coming to teach me you're not let cook meat and milk together. Another time coming to teach me you're not letting it eat meat and milk together. And the third time is coming to tell me you're not even allowed to have hano. You can't even benefit from meat and milk that's together. Now from the fact that the wrote the in such an interesting way three times but didn't say you shouldn't eat meat and milk together learned a lot of the most notable and the most critical that really underpins all of and that is that the only time one is eat together is if the baser and the cook together or something that is synonymous with cooking roasted together fried together. But it's only if it's that but if a person would eat meat and milk together not he would not be nowadays even in isidon not to drink milk within a certain time frame after you ate meat the infamous 6 hours which by the way has a mccur in tomorrow but the point is that being that the Tyra didn't simply say thou shalt not eat meat and milk together Rather the said from there we learn this is the shortest to the laws of possible we're going to be and without further ado we're going to jump in to the very first albeit slightly light says the one is not allowed to cook together with the exception of the meat of fish and the meat of grasshoppers. So all baser is user to be cooked together with what not. So you have to read the not such fine print dog you're allowed to cook together with and which we don't eat today anyways but grasshoppers also you're allowed to cook together with so what's included in says that this opening line of the paric is really a little bit of aesh because in the it says so you could have thought that it's only goats meat but other or maybe would not be included. That's the opening of this parabas is additionally it's not only to cook the baser together with the oh and by the way eat and benefit from it as well but it's also awesome says the Mishna to put it together with gina on a table again. So all you're not put under with the exception of trying to m a little bit. Why did the first of the Mishna discuss baser and the second of the discusses baser and gina right and gina are synonymous in the sugis of it's a meat product and it's a dairy product but either way the second of the is that not only is there an iser to cook and benefit from but you can't even have the two on the table at the same time so if I'm sitting down and I'm having a steak dinner there can't be any gina on the table and then finally the Third is someone makes a nether and he says I'm not going to have any from so what kind of is included it's all with the exception of in other words it's not either way what's the Mishna Mishna is discussing the laws of clearly the Mishna teaches me what type of baser is included in the definition Baser it's all with the exception of meaning and is considered as opposed to is not where is and the laws of two areas number one with regards to bish which doesn't only mean bish means everything that's learned from which is and it's also with regards to this extra of even sit at a table, eat meat or eat dairy if there's going to be from the other uh men that's going to be there. And then finally we mentioned we you have a definition of and it means as opposed to so I'll throw in another and that is in if somebody were making that I'm not going to have any from you would be allowed to have from and from now just one point as to the and that is the first of the is for sure discussing it is mentioned in the Tyra says it three times but the that of course isn't the next that's doesn't say anywhere in the eat at a able flesh if there's going to be some uh dairy product on it. That's only is additionally when the Mishna concludes and says even though that last part of the Mishna is very symmetrical with the first part of the that's why it's even mentioned right what's the theme of the Mishna that when we define it means but it's so it's also but as it relates the reason for the is completely different than as it relates to the reason when it comes to are excluded is because from a perspective we say that is not so when we include all in the it means whatever the defines as and the definition of is going to be as opposed to as opposed to the and even a bon that went and they expanded perhaps on the definition of basar but they too did not expand it so far to include in it but it's more in terms of the definition of basar in the definition of that it means with the exception is a whole different and the reason is because when it comes to definitions are not based on the way the Torah defines words and it's not based on the way define words. This is one of the basic rules of which means that what the Mishna means when it says that when a person says the word he doesn't mean what he means is so the first in the Mishna is more in terms of the kazal's definition of whater is the last line of the Mishna is more in terms of what the lashim definition of baser is either way there's a between the three there's an what's the definition of it's what's the definition of again obviously is not let have an offer from but what's the definition of again it's says the so the began it sounds like is and not only is it it's now let's just hit the pause button immediately the fact that iser that's clear the mission said all baser is with the exception of talking clearly implying that if you're not a dog you're you're going to be an is not a it's not and as a result it's going to be included in the where do you see that it's the didn't say a word about it's so rashi says first instinctive reaction to the is that probably the of the meaning being that we And you're telling me is included in this is with the exception. So probably you mean it's included in the it sounds like is something that is forbidden. Who then must the mission be the lake? It has to be aim. So later in the par only but is not. So if the Mishna is Mashma that was so it must be which we're going to see later in the par who holds and by the way is only but if that's the case take a look at the for the last line of the somebody makes that he's not going to have from the from but you are let Again, this you see clearly this is only true according to who holds in the laws of that any time if somebody would send a to go buy something and the wouldn't see exactly what he was sent to buy but he would see something similar to the extent that he would reach out to his male and tell him you know I couldn't find X but I found Why should I buy it? If the would ask that question, that means why is considered the same min as X? This is the sheet of what's the background to it. If somebody makes a he's not going to have from a loosely translated a vegetable he's allowed to have from gourds said you're not allowed to. Now the held because they held duan is not like a yerk parab is because a yerk vegetables are eaten raw and duan people don't eat raw said no said that duan is considered the same men as yak and I'll prove it to you unrelated but first told a person will tell right what happens if a person tells you you go to the store and buy for me or for us a vegetable will say meaning if he only finds the is he going to buy it? No way. He's going to reach out to his he's going to say you know I'm sorry I couldn't find I was able to find the luin. So the told what are you seeing from here that delu is not a yerk because if the is a yer so why is he reaching back to the right if he found carrots he would just buy it. So how come you're not just buying the du must be the is not I agree with what you just said and by the way that's my riot to my why cuz let me ask you in that same exact situation when somebody tells the go buy me your ruckus and he couldn't find your ruckus but he was able to find kitas would he say kitten he wouldn't say that why not because kitas has no shikus to uruckus right they're completely different so then why is he saying I couldn't find your rockus but I was able to find the lon Oh, it's because you acknowledge that is now it's not but it's also not but what do you see from here must be and is not in other words we have a in the laws of where you have something that's not mish the same but it's also not mish not the same man. You can't definitively with a straight face tell me it's the same man. But you also can't definitively with a straight face tell me it's not the same man. According to the we view it as not being the same man. According to we view it as being the same man. The way Kazal described this case is where if somebody would send a to buy a specific man and he couldn't find it but he found this other thing and as a result he would ask the should I buy it or not that's a riot that it's not mish the men but also that it's not mish not the men in the world of it's the same men in the world of the it's not the same that's why in the world of now argues that as it relates to the baser of and the baser of let's talk specifically about it's somewhat the same as basar but it's also not so much the same as and if the Mishna says that is so what do you see from here that the time of the mishna is of the opinion that's something that's in between the proverbial feel deluin as it relates to is going to be who sheet is that it's the of which means which seemed like a very innocent line really because relative to the general term is not is also not it's like the isus and from the fact that the Mishna says that's a riot that the Mishna must be going according to Rabaka so if you keeping We said that the first part of the and it's even and it's must be holds later in the par that is only the next part of the laws. Is it possible? Is it tenable to say that the first part of the is not like and the next part of the mission is not like is the first says yeah why not the time of the mission is not it's not who wrote the Mishna sort of did okay and rebi had a right to pick and choose between different and whether he holds like doesn't hold like when it comes to the laws of he holds that something that's in between. It's not but also not he holds it's the same. Thus he holds and is going to be. However, as it relates to the laws of over there, he holds like who hold that and not just for that reason over there. So you're right. The time of the Mishna can't be because the first part of the Mishna wouldn't work. It also can't be the bal of a because then the second part of the mission wouldn't work. The terret says it's not reba it's not the it's in he holds like he doesn't hold like by the way these two have nothing to do with each other right they're completely unrelated topics it's not even to say that he did not pass is a second he said no it could be the time of the isa and by the way why would we want the whole mission to be raka the two different anyways it's because we is that's called but the bottom line is said that really the whole way you read the not let it cook with some isra such as some boser is only such And this is all with the exception of In other words said the whole this whole of is predicated on a it was predicated on a dick that when the Mishna said what didn't mean it meant And if included in clearly is that means and if that's the case it must be the he didn't say it could be in some situations but in some situations it's only going to be similar to a gi If that's the case because even though he agrees it's also and as a result and the for sure is there's no reason to make a in other words we have had an answer this which emerges in another of who is the T of the Mishna according to according to but even more acutely as it relates to in the Mishna we have how to read the first line of the Mishna according to now we started the Gmorra we said that this whole is a little bit of a at the end of the gum we certainly see that it's a because Rashi doesn't even agree with the dick now where was the dick even coming from just said but if you Take a look at Typhus. Typhus learns that this dick was really coming from the next gamar. And in fact, this very next gumar, even though we have two dots here all over the place, but really it's very much a continuation of the first part of the gumar. The reason there's two dots is because we're going to focus on the next part of the Mishna. That's usually we have your two dots and then again your two dots and the garra. But really, it's very much a continuation. Rab is going to be the one that's talking. What is going to do is he's going to bring what he believes is that when the mission says and includes it's that all of it is and really from that I think it's there will be insight as to why felt that the dick of Kabosam being which was really the Gar's initial to the says was really coming off the heels of the Rab is about to bring anyway. So the Mishna continued and said, "Not only I now let a cook together, but you also now let a half and here the Mishna said for some reason together on the with the exception of says I think from this line of the you see that also is because if you're going to tell me it's only the is only it makes sense then that we should make uh don't put and together on the table and sit down and eat you may go ahead and actually eat it if when you eat it it's only and why are we making why are we makinger to something that would only be now what's this known as making something that's only it's known as so we know made a lot of right every of some sorts made a lot of but we make to protect ourselves from don't you'll be but to make You might do something that's only that's what's known as and in the rules and regulations of that's not something that we ordinarily do. You see from the Mishna that not only are you not let eat and have ho from and but it's something that now put on the table together. So bishlam if you're going to tell me the rice. So I understand why there's you shouldn't come to eat it together which would be but if you're going to tell me is only so that would mean that why did the makeer probably as so if that itself is only so you're making now a doubleer that's not something that you ever do. must be it's not how do you know that you don't make now asks says we just made a big deal about this that in the rules and regulations of you never make so says that's true that's true says if you take a look at Ibraas see usually the if it invokes it doesn't say not how do I know that you don't say Alexer in fact says I'll tell you something even more interesting sometimes we actually do make Alexer even though the rule says you don't make zer alexer I'll find you cases where you do make zer alexer says this gimar is like somewhere in between this gamorra holds you don't make zera But you need a mur that you don't make and says these are not steer because not all were created equally. This is actually a very famous. That's why when it comes to it's very harder here then it makes sense we should make here too. You see it from the way the tackles. Sometimes it's posit that you don't make exer. Sometimes you actually do make Xer Alex and then like in our Rab holds is you wouldn't make Alex but I would have to have a mar to it there would have to be a source. So the bottom line is again bringing that the Mishna holds is from the fact that we made because if it's only then for would be but at the same time he felt that he needed a you don't make this. So here is the tamer we learned this is in the fourth paral. So that was made from wheat that grew in is allowed to be eaten by a together with aar on the same table. Why would you think not? Because you'd be afraid that maybe the is going to eat from it and is not allowed to eat kala. So when it comes to real and if it would be so there we say that he can't eat it together with his in the same table but being that it's I'm not so worried about another not just that you're allowed to give it to any that you want says even to a ordinarily not supposed to give chumis and to a coin that's but when it comes to we treat it more leniently give it to any coin that you want even if you want to give it to that's going to be okay says what do you see from here you see from here that is didn't take it so far to say that being that it's so therefore a coin shouldn't be able to eat it at the same table with aar now is not let at the same table with a coin But is different there. It's why it must be because eating at the same table with a is only going to be an is if you if the zar is going to have his sandwich and the co's going to have his sandwich and the co sandwich is going to be what happens you want to take a bite out of my tuna sandwich you're going to enjoy it. like ah we're very worried about that and as a result we had to make so we're if then it makes sense to make the but where the whole thing is anyways in this so now it's only say a perfect comp to the that we're learning right here why because in our same exact thing we're dining whether or not it should be user to sit down eat meat on a table with iso it's almost the exact same case where the z and the ka can eat together on the same table. Are you worried? Oh, you may uh you know mix the foods. That's exactly what's going on over here. And just like you see from the laws of that we only are worried about when it comes to when it comes to it makes sense. It should be the same thing. If that's the case when the mission says even must and if that's the case the mission must be like but either way this was so who brought these who's not going to like he said one day we have to tally up all these it's a lot meaning it's good, but I I don't agree. He said if the Mishna would have said that you're allowed to eat in so is sitting down with his sandwich and he's going to sit at the same table with his and this is taking place in and you're telling me that it's okay. I would hear everything that you're saying hello but Misha didn't say that the Mishna is talking where all of this is taking place in this is happening in the United States of America it's not happening at you need a long plane ride to get there is well if that's the case then maybe the reason it's because really there's no toer a real but over here if we're allow you to eat together on the same table. Maybe you're going to end up eating. And if you do that, you're going to end up eating a regular. In other words, what told was that when we talk about making with regards to something that's there's really two that you have to look at. Number one, should we make don't put baser and gina on the same table because if you eat it, you're going to be so there I understand it wouldn't make sense to say don't put and on the table together and eat from it together as a that you might actually eat the and the because if you would eat the you don't So we're not going to make an to prevent you from being another and that says I hear and I see that in the because you see clearly that we weren't worried about making because you see the kid together with the same table and we're not worried that the might end up eating the and the reason is because to be concerned that they might eat is only and even if you eat it it's only to the So therefore it's I think for that you have a clarite but when it comes to bus not eating baser on the same table together with the I think there's another reason you have to make not just because if you're going to sit and eat this together on the table you may end up eating the and the I'm not worried about because that's ex I have a president from the fourth we're not going to be for but why are you not worried that if you're going to do this with and you may end up doing it with and if you're going to do with and then you're going to eat them you'll be now I know says that's also right don't eat and on the same table I mean don't have them on the same table while you're eating because you might end up having and together on the table and then you may end up eating from the bas which would actually be rice that's also but being that already proved this is very nuanced that you need a that you don't make not right this is the type that you need a that you don't make so if you need a you don't have a mar from the only part of this that you have a fromar is is that I wouldn't make don't eat it when it's on the table. You may eat it together being that even if you ate it together, it would only be but that's only in a situation where even at the worst case scenario you're not coming to ana but over here it's much more that you could come to ana because if you're going to eat when there's on the table you might eat when there's on the table and if eat when there's on the table you may end up going ahead and actually eating the behemoth together with the gina. Now I know that's also exer but the bottom line is you need a makar in this that you don't say exer is already was why but that's what's mour you need a m and you don't have a makar that you don't make such a just explain this a drop better right why do you have that secondash when it comes to you when it comes to the spoke it out it's because in the makes sense you should have to beer the real the why does it make sense because I live in a house where I have I be I have everything. So if I'm going to put my together with the on the table while I'm eating, so I may end up doing it with the then I end up eating the together. But when I'm in I don't have and even though it's a it's a full step removed. I don't really have it here that I don't really have it here. So to make don't eat together with a you're don't eat together with on the same table because why because you might do it with and then you're going to eat there is no what are you talking about so a direct comp to tell me that you see you don't make don't say I might eat that thing together that you have but you don't have a direct comp you don't even have anything close to a direct comp that You wouldn't make don't put this things on the together. You might put the dice things and you might eat that together because in the case of you don't have the rice things here you do have the rice things there. So maybe you would make and if that's the case again nuanced to I hear a partial riot to what you're saying is a complete riot I don't have either way. So said I thought I have a that the time that holds the said I disagree but the has one and this cash is not only it's really kasha on the entire mission that is masked this whole idea that you're not let sit down and eat meat on a table if there's going to be gina there because of why isn't it always even if it's It should be nothing to do with this affformentioned there should never be such this whole line of the Mishna I don't really understand you know why because the only time there's so we said is if it's but if the is going to be and the is going to be right they weren't cooked together and they're not mish boiling hot so that if they touched each other they could be ble from each other in that kind of situation even if you ate it wouldn't be a riso so isn't every type of situ situation like this anyways going to be why is this no because sometimes people used to put the food on this very hot tray this boiling hot tray and if that's the case it's very you're talking that the bus and the are going to touch each other and that's what we're worried about but the cliche even if you did that but isn't that a cliche and we know even if it's doesn't have the ability to be not Right. Yeah. Is sometimes they used to literally right you take the pot and you put it right onto the plate has some fancy name in the restaurant. So if you're going to go ahead and you're going to do that then you're going to have bus together. It is all that this can come to a real and it's for that reason said meaning if the only way it were in every situation would be only then would not have made this but being that it's very possible it's going to come to right so it's for that reason that did a little orn is allowed to be on the same table with meaning if you're eating and you want to have gina next to it that's going to be okay. However, you can't eat it says you're not let have it on the table together and you're not let it together either. By the way, the earlier which said was clearly going to say this is one of the very few cases where is and right says you want the and the on the table together while you're eating it's it's okay says it's not okay by definition is being this is one of those examples we talking about It's it's the table that you eat on but the you just uh you know put the food at on you know the board you could have one to the other and in that situation you don't have to be the began. So again, the Mishna is talking about Baser O and it's discussing having the two on the table while you're eating. So I'm eating, I'm going to have I'm eating Vina, I'm going to have according to B. They could be on the table together. It just can't be eaten. Bas says obviously they can't be eaten, but they can't be on the table together either. In other words, our in the beginning of the paric was said, you should know this is the assumes that is coming to add something, right? He's coming to something. He's not just making a cool observation, right? He's coming to actually say something. It's not clear what he's coming to say. I mean, he's literally the maybe was coming to say he was coming to say that even meaning this is not just that allows them to be on the table at the same time. that even allows you to eat it together. How so? Said whether or not they're allowed to be on the table together. But as it relates to everybody holds it's going to be said then no I think even is the same way but it's not true. There's six times when argued and bishi was and this is one of them. So it's clear that what's version of this it's only with regards to whether it could be or not whether it could be or not. There's no that holds it could actually be eaten together. So again, what's the cash? What is coming to beadeshan? So the elam, I'll tell you what's going on here. Know what's going on. The wanted us to know that who is the rai. And why do we need to know who the is? Why can't he just be the tanakama? The reason is because right Esther said the came. So when you say that brings the gul. So the reason we mentioned it's just to know that you're right there's no over here. But it's just because you're saying over from somebody you have to give credit to the person you're saying over yesterday's post game. But the bottom line is and that's the reason this is mentioned. Now if the purpose of mentioning in the mission is then why don't you just say in the beginning of the Mishna we should have started with so forgot when he opened up the he forgot to say he could always make up for uh right stealing somebody's so you could always uh say yeah you know something I should have given credit where credit's due And then afterwards he came back and he decided to mention his name and we are going to not stop here but exhale here and pivot to a little bit of rate. So the topic of this next peric here in Mess school in per is the laws of so we gave a tiny bit of an introduction to in the but I think it's kadai now to delve in a little bit more specifically into the of the of so it doesn't say anywhere in the eat bus together. What it does say in the is you not let a cook a goat in its mother's milk. And the doesn't say it once. The doesn't say it twice. The says from learned that not only are you not let it cook from and it's not only a gad with its mother's milk but it's true for all of and it's from the three mentions of this and the we know this of the if you think about the from autikra perspective I think it's fascinating the questions the observations literally jump off the page number one you now let eat of together yet the never said that you're not let together the said three times and from the extra mentions we know that not only you're not let together but you're also not let together but at the end of the Today the Tyra never said, "Thou shalt not eat." The Tyra said, "Thou shalt not eat. Thou shalt not eat. Thou shalt not eat." The Tyra said, "Thou shalt not eat the ganosha. Thou shalt not eat the all the things that eat." The Tyra says, "Thou shalt not eat." The Tyra never said, "Thou shalt not eat." At first glance, what's additionally why does the say it only with regards to the first rash that the reason the Mishna says it's because you would have thought from being maybe it's only the goat but as it relates to all other animals and I would have thought maybe not that was going to be also but from autikra perspective why does the say also why does it say with its mother's milk. Was its mother's milk after doing anything? Now that a cheeseburger whether the cheese was made from the animals mother's milk or wasn't made from the animals mother's milk. Here's another question. The does not mention the ini which is the primary where the talks about the latter part of it doesn't say it over there. It doesn't say it there. Where does it say it? It says it in par. It says in a parish and then the third time it says in a paras. Now to be fair in par it is mentioned in the context of in fact the beginning of the is right and that's how we end that but in it is lumped together with but it's not mentioned it's even more than Yeah, the Tyra mentions it twice in terra mentions it in paras and then literally two paras later in parisa which if you add that to the one in par that's the three mentions that we have why would the mention it twice in succession so close to each other in such close proximity why is mention it three times three time how many things is saying in the terra three times not a lot three of three times. Why would the ter ment mention this? Uh three times also you haven't noticed the context in which it's mentioned in parish and it's the identical context. It's talking about the And it's the same exact thing. There you have the right all three times it ends in but again the two times it's mentioned in it's mentioned in the context of the regal and IN THE SAME AS THE WHAT IN THE WORLD IS going on over here it's I don't think there's Ping that's more el again we know what is without learning the per this is not a spoiler alert if it is you got to go back to we know what Jews not let eat meat and milk together right this is doesn't say anyway and not let me meet and milk together it says with all these different at first glance it's it's really really something that from perspective is hard to make sense of truth Truth is if you take a look at the rishim nothing fancy just open up in mccdilus and get to work. If you take a look at the it's very very clear that all the without fail maybe with the exception of Rash but all the were very very bothered by this that if you go through the you're going to find so many different in terms of what the of the is just to bring out the point a little and mysteriously not. They all say that the reason the said of the laugh, not the buser of the but the laugh is because for a person to take an animal and cook it in its mother's milk is it's in fact all three of these great paranz and the right the three alltime great in the world of they all had the same exact they said this is like the lab in the of and it's like the lab of the which is all based on that is supposed to be civil and you're supposed to be sensitive even to the and as a result it's you're going to go ahead and you're going to that's because it's in the same vein Don't go ahead and cook the goat in its mother's milk. And that is what the is coming to teach me is not coming to say don't eat meat and milk together. IN THE BUT in the what the saying is don't be anx is not just like right that's where it is because these are or is a that's related less to and it's related more to has to And he has to be sensitive even to the it's related to and it's related to the idea of in fact adds he says that why is it that the put it in the context of the regal I think it's very simple because during the people used to shock a lot of animals right it was very it's very festive you're shocking a lot of animals being that you're shocking a lot of animals so it's for that reason that's when it's appropriate to you know tell me what is this reminiscent of where does it say we made a big deal about this par right before the parish of the dear too right it's mentioned right before the parish of the why is it mentioned over there again speak out because in the context of the mayadim when there's a lot of that are being brought so you have to know what to be sensitive of but fra you know when there's so much happening so you may tend to be a little less sensitive So therefore the needs to warn you and the says you know be careful today's the day you're going to all these carbonas right has to say right because time that's when you have to be a little bit more careful in that same vein says that's why it's being mentioned in the context that's why it's being mentioned in the context of that's why it's being mentioned the context of the regal another mahal in the in terms of understanding of is in the says that I believe it's he brings that he thinks it's like the but he says if you want a I'll tell you the best I can come up with the says that that the way a woman when she's nursing produces milk the dam which would have been the dam is we know But obviously when the dam becomes at that point it's not a problem says I believe that when is cooked together with basar there's some chemical reaction that happens to the where it gets the traits the latent traits of dam that are hidden inside of it and it brings out the dam and that's why the Tory said don't cook meat and milk together and then eat it because if you're going to do that you're going to violate This is what says why is it mentioned in the context of the regal says because we know that if a person eats it creates a we spoke so much about this in the beginning of the right it creates a tim and on that's a time with this of in the world when the used to be and they used to literally on some level so in order to be able to tap in for your antennas to be sharp so you need to make sure you have no timal says It's during that time that the Tyra gives this extra warning, this extra and says because you're going to reinvigorate the that's inside and you're GOING TO END UP BEING OVER the if you take a look at the this is a mitzvah the says that if you want to understand take a look at what I wrote on the I took a look over there The sen discusses how one of the ideas of kish was to somehow mess around with the order of the world. Created the world with a certain order. Limu is mentioned several times in the story of creation. Right? Hashem wanted everything to be in a in a certain order. The Mashin used to take two things that are supposed to be, you know, traveling on independent tracks and they would merge them together. And that says the is part and parcel of ancient kish. This is part and parcel of what they used to do. And when a person messes around with the law and order of the world, what he's essentially doing is he's somehow messing with the way wants the world to operate. That's the of because it literally it alters it causes nature to deviate and to go off track. But anytime you take two minim and you merge them, you're infringing on this concept of kish. And he says that's why the makashin used to love to do this. He says that's why the ter makes a big deal about not wearing shots. Who cares if you wear tear and pitch them together? It's because sear is supposed to be se and pisham is supposed to be pisham. You're not supposed to put them together. That's why you're not supposed to sew two seeds that are different together. That's why you're not supposed to make two different types of animals. And that's why you're not supposed to eat. So it says cooking taking these two independent uh things and merging them together. that's already getting involved in this concept of and it's for that reason this is something that's that's very very if you take a look at the you won't believe what you're going to say you know what the says one of the he says why is it that what he says there's no way to reconcile this doesn't make sense so why does or what does the term mean when it says he says the word bish means mature door right it means that it's not cooking cooked the peris but they're fully ripened they're complete they're in this uh complete stage of state of maturation says the what the means when it says it says time and you have to bring carbonus you need a lot of animals you're going to have an animal and you're going to say you know I'm not going to shock this animal now let me wait till the animal is a little older let me wait till it's more mature, it'll be more appropriate to go. Let me wait until it stops nursing from its mother, says the don't wait until your gad is until it's fully mature until after it completed nursing its mother. No, you should go ahead and bring it as a carbon right now if you need it as a carbon says the that's why it's in the same as the AS SOON AS IT STARTS to be immediately you don't say let me wait until it's this big fancy watermelon no you take it right now and in the same exact vein talk about a noosh the truth is this that the says I found in But you know I found it in paris not in fact learns about he says no it's it's but in from what he wrote in in all of a sudden he throws out the I think it's because in couldn't understand why the ter would have to talk to me twice in we know why the terror told to me twice and thrice but Why would the terror tell to me a second time? So the said the first shot, the first time the terror mentions it. Come on, we're pushing our look over here. Oh, but the second time already there I could hear it. The truth is if you take a look at the paris also not I think the is but if you take a look in paris listen to what he says also a man is not let marry may so if a man dies and he leaves over an ammona and she was a man she's in the middle of nursing so she's not married, right? Remember the we had some rabbites from the used to say that he never passed in Shilas about because he was always afraid. He was afraid to get involved because and there's different uh clawless that was said about this Indian. But the bottom line is says don't cook in a pot that your friend cooked in. Don't marry your friends. As long as which is the child needs her mother's milk, his mother's milk. If a child is nursing, then don't go ahead and be. In other words, that's a kino. It's a euphemism. Don't go ahead and marry her. Don't marry a woman that's nursing a child. Not a not a it's not even bish. Now, where does the taskum say in paris again? Because bothered. Why is the telling to me a second time? It must be there's another to be had over here. But now is running off course that in the these are the saying that doesn't have anything to do with the love of perhaps the most famous in the is the where he talks about all these things where he discusses the mitzvah and the ra over there says I don't know for a fact imagine the raises I don't know for a fact right there's like a val mirror the ram he says but I will tell you what my gut is telling me my gut is telling me that once upon a time when the used to convene and when they used to get together specifically on their yim they would take a goat and they would cook it in maybe their mother's milk and this must have been some form of pagan worship and the is talking to the yidden and it's telling the yidden that I don't want you to engage in the avoid of the pagans and THEREFORE DON'T DO THIS NOW WHERE or when did the pagans do it they did it and they used to do it on their holidays. That's why when the talks about you're going to be so then that the says oh you remember the way they used to be those pagans they used to take a goat and they would cook it in their mother's milk you should not do that but it's mentioned in the context of the says the now the says I don't know this for a fact and in fact the ras to that he says I didn't find it in any of the books of the so who is the so these were the that talks a lot about in the on we talked about the book Nabatian agriculture which believe it or not somehow survived some uh 11th or 12th century Arabic translation of it but the bottom line is the raham says that he had the book and he read it and when he read the book he understood a lot of the because he was able to see some of the pagan customs and some of these what exactly they were referring to. So the rabb says I went through you know those right the says and every book that was on the topic that was written in Arabic he read but the says that I read that those books and I didn't find any mention of this he says but I'm tell you what this is my gut says I think that this must have been some pagan custom and because of that the say truth is if you take a look at the in all three places that the says the says this idea in Fact, the sophornness says something beautiful. The Sephora says that the pagans, they used to go ahead and they would uh cook a goat in its mother's milk or something like that. And the reason they did it was cuz they believed that it would cause their to grow better that if you want your peris to grow better, you don't go ahead and get involved in these uh pagan inim. If you want your peris to grow better, you know what you're supposed to do? You're supposed to take and you're supposed to bring it to the like said that's going to give you that wants in his payrise. You know what you're supposed to do and that like said don't get involved in that craziness. It's interesting the he says it again. And both times he says it in the context of Paris. He says it again. He doesn't say a word about Paris. It would work for their why is he talking about because this is the one time where it doesn't say it together with what's the context over there? It's a parish. It's talking about all the you're not letting eat AND IT'S NOT. So what is again? Oh, so must be because there was an element that it was a schooler for Paris and there was an element there was a school for behemoth for cattle. So as it relates to as it relates to when I'm talking about different animals and different foods that you're allowed don't engage in this. That's not something that you're supposed to do. But the bottom line is is that if you go through all these uh different it's fascinating how every region is trying to come up with a shot of what means as opposed to just saying I don't know per every child knows that you're not let me together it's to cook the goat in its mother's milk it's from It's related to I mean you have the that says that don't wait until the animal gets older before you go ahead and it's related to the isert to go ahead and marry a wow that there must have been some pagan custom around the times of their festivals where they used to go ahead and do these mices the said this was like a big schooler back in the day schoolers so this was like one of their big schoolers They used to say he gibbi and all of a sudden boom that pirates are going to grow and all of a sudden all their cattle is going to multiply and the terror is telling you don't do that you want a schooler go to the go to the base of mikdash that's where your school is going to be but the bottom line is the bottom line is all these different they're all coming because in the in the there's so many that jump off the page that almost force us to say that of now how each not answers all the affforementioned cautious that's homework that's way beyond the scope of this rabbi but again just to bring out the general point you know there's one very interesting thing and that is if you open up you take a look at the what do you think says right is the what do you think says ready don't eat. Don't eat a cheeseburger. That's what says. And by the way, all three places that it says in the says the same thing. And the truth is they're very bothered. If you have the say for and you can take a look, he has there. They're all very bothered. They don't understand. I mean that tries so hard to make the work with the they're all saying these it's a fascinating discussion and by the way if you go through safer and it's also insightful to understanding's job and his in terms of the way things happen but I just want to end with one fascinating postcript and that is I saw in the tish I saw you like this you have to make a beline to tish you have And by the way, the real place to make the bel line is the muim because he has fascinating and this you know is going to be a topic. So sure enough I saw in the back of and it's uh in his he has a whole he brings on top of in terms of understanding the and then he brings something fascinating. He says that between the years 1921 and 1941, there was a very important archaeological find in Syria. They found tablets that today are known as the Ugaritic tablets. Hope I'm saying that right. But the Ugaritic tablets and these tablets and the texts on the tablets, they trace themselves back to the times of the And there's one line. I'll read it in English because I don't speak fluent yugaritic, but I'll just read it in English. It's literally hieroglyphics, but in English it says as follows. It's talking to the So, it says it's literally what I can't even read it on the but it says and it's speaking to it in a very respectful way and it's telling you, you know, what are you supposed to do when you're going to come and celebrate this? This is what you should do. quote, "Cook a kid in milk, a lamb in butter." Cook a kid in milk, a lamb in butter. Zra of Kasher in 1921, this was like a 20-year excavation, but during that Kufa, they uncovered tablets that said what the Ram felt in his gut. The Ram said, "I don't know this for a fact. The I never found this, but this is what used to happen." And this was a pagan Indian. And because it was a pagan, this is what went on. AND HE SAID, "THEY FOUND IT. The mamish have a find." And this mamish it it's sort of it gave credibility to what the herish what the ram thought cook a kid in milk a lamb and butter which gives tremendous insight into but I'll tell you something very fast a postcript to the postcript and this is also the kasha but it's one per earlier this is emperic where kasha says that it comes out from the comes out from the rama with this archaeological uh kick But it comes out from the and these two they held in is related to he says if it's related to I'm just thinking out loud he said there's certain anomalies that you find in the of that you don't find even with regards to number one is not is not learning it's Not we just don't get not right is not yet says why is it not generally why isn't it we had in today's d you make zer when it comes to when it comes to we'll see more about but you make zer when it comes to what about the IDEA OF WAITING 6 HOURS BETWEEN what's in that where'd that even come from we're going to see it tomorrow's The is going to say that one of said I am like vinegar the son of wine when I compare myself to my father he said my father was so was who said this my father was so that if he ate meat on a Monday he didn't have a coffee until Tuesday he says I can't go so far I wait which by the way this is the makard to the is it misud or is it six hours the amount of time you usually wait between sudas but the bottom line is I WAITED TILL THE WHY WOULD MARUT'S my father wait a full day? He said, "What's in that?" Like, why is he waiting a full day, right? It's fascinating some of these that you find when it comes to that you don't find anywhere else. He says a little bit more than that. A little bit more than that. It says in the three times, right? We we made it. Why would it say it three times in the Tyra? Three time. What does it say three times? Right? You don't find things that it says uh you find so many times. I'm going to tell you what I think is going on over here. I think what's going on over here is the Rama and what's going on over here is what's going on over there element and being that it's where you find you find can't EVEN HAVE IT CAN'T COOK IT. IT CAN'T BE ANYWHERE INSIDE can't create it. This is something that's so so severe because of the element to it. If you understand that there's a he then already makes perfect sense. Then he takes it a step further. This this would be a brilliant aside that we don't have time for now. But he says that the two times that the terra mentions it theor says it not only in the par of you know what the right before it is. It's the right. It sounds like it had something to do with the carbon pes something to do with the carbon pes we know was he has a brilliant thesis how the whole is the reason you find and the reason you have a all these different things he says he believes it's related to the fact that represents the that's what the iss byt The only other place in the world you find and you find represents the right remember when we learn we were talking about what's the and the brings the said when it comes to because really the has no but says he believes it's because represents the but the point is represents so next to this you have is because this is if you understand that this is different than THOSE AREAS. THERE IN THE PARISH. This was not this is and if you understand that it's that opens up a whole new that's why we talk about it right away and that's why it's mentioned right away again in aasha why the ter mentions over and over and over again that's never going to be aasha because now we know already say right the two things that are in all the mitzvah are always being throughout the I found we'll end with this I found that There was a yid a tremendous tremendous guy who we've all benefited from perhaps unknowingly. His name was Rab Yehuda Cooperman. So who is Rab Yehuda Cooperman? Rab Yehuda Cooperman is the Mia. He's the one that wrote the Hagyas on the bottom of the blue mash. The mash that everybody uses that has brilliant on the bottom that you couldn't mash without. This was written by this. His name was he passed away like 10 years ago in he was a a tremendous guy specifically in the world of maker. He opened up the Mashma to the world. He was the go and worldleading expert in all things. It's not even close. And he also did a lot of work on and he was a very in the beginning of every again I think this is come out. I'm going out on a limb here almost every shank in the world. So if you open up in the beginning of batious the first volume he has a mauvo. It's 14 proam lawn and the purpose of the mauvoy is this is so brilliant. It's to extrapolate from the mesh the way he approached learning. So we know the mashma is uh right in the conversation of the most brilliant modern pur of all time right it's not even close but one of the things for those that are familiar a little bit with classic is there and he had a very novel approach so writes a it's 14 chapters each chapter is dedicated to another that he took out from in terms of the way he learned that he understood Peric B is called and the general theme is is that learned and he believed this was a sheet of that he said comes very much from the you'll find it if you know how to find it and that is is that you have to understand the tama mitzvah because the tama mitzvah shades and it colors the mitzvah so if you want to learn you have to understand It's true for every mitzvah in the and of he gives an example. He says I'm going to tell you the perfect example. He says it says And he goes on and he says, "But I think the is and he's trying to bring out a point. It's not a but he's trying to say what would have said and he says based on what the said in the based on what the said and we have this archaeological find but the bottom line is based on what the Rambam said in the what than what the Sorna said and that is this is not this is he says that you understand the location location of the you can understand to some of the things again go through the two pieces and they'll complement each other but the bottom line is we're starting in the it's it's an anomaly of monomalies and it could be the mahal is it's because at its core is actually Not at its core it's that opens up the to understanding the struggled to bear. Additionally, it opens up a to understanding the which is as we go through peracab we're going to see is very much an anomaly.