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Today's daf is
and we are two lines from the bottom of
so at the end of yesterday's we returned
to the original topic of the
and that is
the
whether there's an on a non-cooser
animal or there's no with a non-coosher
animal says
Gidhan applies to a kosher animal but a
non-cooser animal does not have the
word that clarified Rab Yehuda's
position and that is that if somebody
eats the gdanosha from
he's going to be he gets malus for
eating part of a non-cooser animal he's
also going to get malus for eating the
in other words if somebody eats the of a
non-cooser animal. Does he get malus?
Was he
or was he not? At first glance, this
shilah should be tulli in a much more
global shila, which is whether we say
oral.
There's a big
whether something that's can become
again. There's a man that says when the
stated is what the Tory was saying was
that if something is mut and now meets
this criteria it's going to become but
something that's anyways asser can't
become again there's a shast that holds
there's a that holds but given certain
criteria then you would say is what's
known as
so the backdrop of today's daf is the
gidhan specifically
in a but really the lumbus as it relates
to the principles of today's it ties
very much into the sug of either way the
gar begins with a that really is a
he of
somebody
doesn't get mal twice
and says you don't get mal Malcus at
all. Now we already explained
says you get malus twice. Number one,
you ate from number two because you ate
and even though the said is that
but is different
and something that's
has the manifest itself that although
ordinarily
over here is going to be but the is
going to discuss
says potter sounds like you don't get
malus at all there's no malus is for
eating part of a non-coosher animal.
There's also no malus for eating the
says
then you should get two malus and
if he holds
then at the very least you should get
malus for the fact that you ate from a
which was chronologically the is that
was first as we saw yesterday is as soon
as the animal is a fetus the isan
until it's
which is at somewhat of a later stage.
But even if holds that just means there
shouldn't be two malice but says it
sounds like you're not at all the and if
you're going to tell me holds
and that's why there's no because really
the is not considered
it's only in the context of where the
it's even a sh or it's even possible to
be for eating a good but if That's the
case that means there's no if there's no
then there's no as it relates to the
but
you have to say
that's why there's no
and we learn from that
the talking about an animal where you're
allowed to eat the animal, you just
can't eat the g. It's over there that
the
opposed to a non-coosher animal. We are
the entire animal is off limits. such an
animal where it's not the gid that's
also it's the entire animal that's also
doesn't have a g is ganosha at all
either way it would seem from this that
really there's four possibilities if you
break it down what the would be if
somebody eats the gdanosha of a non-
kosher animal is one extreme he holds
you get malus for eating part of a
non-coosher animal you also get malcus
for eating you get malus feeding the
non-coosher animal clearly holds
so if you can't eat a non-coosher
animal. You can't eat the of a
non-coosher animal. Additionally, holds
but
you are going to be the second as well.
The other extreme is
says you're not going to be at all.
So you're not over for eating the g of a
non-cooser animal because the g is
it's not considered food. Thus when the
Torah says don't eat from a non-coosher
animal, it did not mean don't eat the
senue of the non-cooser animal.
Additionally has a a says was never said
for a non-coosher animal. And then you
have the Mishna Tanakama the Mishna
seems to say that you would get malcus.
You would get malcus but only one malus.
Not like that and not like that you're
going to be what are you going to get
malus for? So there's really two ways
you can go about it. If the holds
and
he doesn't hold that you say
and you're going to get malus feeling
from a that's first if the holds
then you're not going to get malusing
from a but assuming he doesn't hold that
he doesn't hold this that is only true
for kosher animals meaning the is true
even for non- kosher animals then the is
you would get malcus for us for eating
from the gdra.
It makes a very big difference because
you can't get malus unless you get. So
if this person who's eating the gd of
non kosher says you're going to get
malcus one malus. What's the malus for?
Is the malus for eating from a
non-coosher animal or is it from eating
from the just from a basic learning of
this? There's really two possibilities.
It depends on if
this is basic back of the envelope
arithmetic. Either way there's four
possibilities. What the would be if
somebody eats the of a regardless is
going to go.
What if somebody eats the of a kosher
animal, but it was an avail. So it's a
kosher animal. It's a cow, but it's an
thus you're not let it. What's the with
the gan of such an animal? Meaning the
Mishna was discussing the gan of a
noncooher animal. The gdanos of aer. Now
we're discussing the of a kosher animal
that's not kosher because it didn't have
a proper it wasn't available says the
heard in the name of
says
if somebody eats the of such as a carbon
or if somebody eats the gdanosa of which
is
over there you're going to be so before
the next line of so what's the beer in
the
said I heard in the name of Raf who said
over that there's a tano not like we had
in the previous but rather
if somebody eats the of a kosher animal
that's in available mayor says that it's
posit you're going to be overhosa
and you're going to
is an as well say
now which are you going to be according
to it's part that you're going to be for
the reason the hold you only has to be
because there's no drusses over here
it's because of the
obviously the is not until the animal
dies the
while the animal's still alive so the
is first thus the hold you over for the
not for the whereas holds you're going
to be over for the
for the
it's going to be clear that also holds
the reason he holds you're going to be
over for the is because
is one of the carveout it's one of the
exceptions to the rule it meets one of
the safe harbors in the laws of meaning
ordinarily
but there are times where is for to the
attorneys.
So for example, for example,
means where the second is
more than the first.
Why? It's very simple. Affects one, one
of the 365.
That's all it affects affects the entire
animal. All the bus are in the animal
are included in the so says that being
that
more than thus even though I ordinarily
holder over here is going to be if
that's the case it comes out
even when it's so we have
who are lesser
even
despite the fact that
really is clearly they hold that
even when there's a stating that another
when it comes to the
over
we're going to be what's the so you're
going to tell me because is is more than
just because
is more than just the problem is we just
said that the don't hold is so if They
don't know this despite the fact that is
more than so why are they when it comes
to when it comes to the ter is because
and is not more quantitatively it's more
qualitatively the way is more than
affects one ga affects more quantity it
affects the entire animal
is more in it's more qualitatively gan
is a somebody eats from the gda gets
malus. It's a but it's a regular I say
in addition to the if somebody eats he's
getting involved in there's also
also so it affects the gid more
qualitatively speaking the refers to it
as says don't confuse this with
but the point is is that the refers to
which comes out then that although the
hold that if the second is more
qualitatively there the would be that
they would agree says.
So now that we have information about
the let's try to figure out who this
anonymous is
but
you see the don't hold of your classic.
Thus if somebody eats the we say
despite the fact that
it's more than only affects this one
whereas affects the entire animal
stating that
such as
they do all this
I could tell you who
so we know we're familiar with the laws
oftes
really mean one of two things. Sometimes
it's referring to someone that's that
either ate kim or entertly
it could be referring to someone that's
that ate that was and there's a very big
difference. If someone's tom and he eats
kachch in addition to be an iser, it's
also if someone's and he eats kachum
that's there's no isar. So is more than
so if the person is what's known as
there's even of as opposed to if it's
the person was and he just ate is no we
have a
someone that was he ate
it doesn't matter if the
says
if someone was to and he ate from that
is he's going to be
if someone Tommy ate catch from that was
Tommy is going to be the reason
being that he only in other words we
have
and the in this is a incidentally
so we have a
if someone was to and he ate
does he get is there of is of
for sure the question is what about
I don't understand how could you tell me
that if someone's tom and he eats to
he's going to be part every single time
a eats before he eats it he touched it
when he touched it he was so by the time
he ate it was already so if that's the
case every case of
even is a case of
you see how could you Tell me that is
going to be positive says coming later
it's a good time said I'll explain to
you
you're right in a case where the person
was first and then the became
agrees and therefore he agrees to what
said you're 100% right if someone's and
he eats and then he's going to be in
that case it's always that way and and
you're going to be if the person became
before the boser became then he's going
to be the iss because came first and
being that the is of an issue
there's nowhere for it to go. Therefore
you be wonder
that
Tommy is going to be
that's only if first the buser became
and then he became
hold
they hold they hold that even though
when the buser was this person was not
allowed to eat it now that he became
it's going to be
as
Why the reason it's is because the iso
more than the is basa basa only affected
this one piece of meat. So if there's a
piece of kum that's no one's allowed to
eat it now that the person became he
can't eat all kachum in the world. So
obviously the second is effect more
that's whereas
doesn't hold the he doesn't hold this
and as a result
holds that if the person became first
and then the became
like proof from every case of
but at the same time if first the became
then the person became over but what's
the bottom line bottom line is you have
aim
seems to say that even though there is a
concept of
that you don't say
and that tucked away he holds that
because if he held he would hold that if
there was a piece of meat that was to
and then a person became tom if he ate
that meat he would be for
more than the fact that he holds it even
in that case. You see
even where it's an now Rashi points out
that we had an objective
that hold even but if the second is
then they do hold
really we only proved the first half we
just found from that holds
but where do you see that he holds that
if the second is more such as
you don't have a proof to that points
out that that's true and Rashi doesn't
really give much of an explanation but
he just says that is just proving the
first half as it relates to the second
half the must know that in but either
way the gumar just to be clear did not
prove everything it set out to prove the
was trying to say
that hold you don't say but you do say
the
All we proved was that doesn't hold. We
did not prove clearly that holds a but
must be that the held that in everyone's
going to hold that is definitely going
to work. But theor says
if we just said that doesn't hold but
he's the in the brought earlier as it
relates to the
it means that even doesn't hold but he
holds when it's
in that
the second is more
than the first Cuz what was the first
isser? The first is the fact that there
was kum that was now let kach that's
right now that's is the second was the
fact that the person became so referred
to it as an you see basically all is
more than just it's as well why is it
because
doesn't have cars.
How do you know is
you're right on some level is because
but at the same time when a person's he
can go to the mikvah if there's nothing
you can do with it and as a result says
the maybe that's a and that's why even
though holds a when it's such
And
but that's not an example of it says the
less
not hold meaning we have more
information about we said who's the that
doesn't hold the says it's
going to have another
shabas fell out on fell out on and
somebody went ahead and he did
How do you know that this person now?
It says shabi and it says
it says with regards to it says
who
says that teaches me somehow that
you can only be of one. What's the
kasha? The kasha is for both.
Now if you hold of is I understand that
you could be for both at the same time
because you'll tell me that each one is
more than the other has more than chabas
because has additional
shabas has more than shabas
as opposed to yipper which is merely
that's the in the first it's merely of
course but if you're going to tell me
that really doesn't
Then how could this Mishna say that
you're going to be both for Shabas and
now what's the obvious question they're
both so if they're both when is it
Shabas right when the sun sets
but the same time it's
it's all the same asks the long rash but
either way that's now we're saying now
who's the all
We know that we want to be the tan and
the briser with regards to here
regards to
seems to hold
because otherwise how could it be
both for and
I'm g tell you have how you have to
learn this
you flip it around you have to say that
really it's who said that
and it's
why
says
there was a telegram that came
in the name of the great who said as
false according to based on the edited
in the holds if somebody
he's going to be only once.
If somebody was
with regards to Shabas and he was amazed
with regards to meaning, but he knew he
was doing he's going to be for the fact
that he was on his
reverse. Let's say he was amazed with
regards to Shabas but he was a with
regards to going to be interesting.
said that you know the beer in the way
we had it in the original price the
edited price
who says that
which are you going to be for so it's
it's not either or it's only shabas
for not
because came before Shabas is
that requires that's that's at a later
time. The point is is that Shabas is
because Shabas was here first. So in the
fact that Shabas is it's automatic. It
doesn't need best and it's goes back to
the days of creation. So it's for that
reason Shabas is is is considered the is
here it's first as opposed to which is
going to be second
it's a nice but
how could such a penetrate the
which is at the same time shabas punked
you know his star if you know the rest
of the story so shabas goes back much
further but but what does it have to do
with anything in the
said life at the end of the day
that's a point
said that when this message came from
that
said that
according to
that holds that you only have one for
doing
and which one shabas the message was a
little bit mixed up and Really there
were two things going on.
There was a shas there was a shas there
was a time that there was a decree that
the Jews were not allowed to observe and
because they weren't allowed observe it
was a very big problem. So got together
and they said you know what we're going
to do we're going to make a secret day.
We're going to pick a day and it's going
to be and the day they picked was shabas
which in of itself has a implications
not for today but they decided that
shabas is going to be kipper. And with
regards to that day, they said that if
somebody's going to go ahead and he's
going to be a with regards to Shabas,
then he's going to have to be inas. If
he's going to be a with regards to on
that day, he's not going to be in. You
know what? He's not in Kipper. It was
just like a They didn't want there to be
no Yum Kipper that year. So they decided
that they couldn't make it on because
everybody was going to be looking out to
make sure the Jews aren't observing it.
So they picked a day. They chose Shabas
and it was on that shabas and which had
fall and end on the same day that was
saying two things
that is the one that holds that you only
one as it relates to the second thing
said that the one that you for is the
the shabas not he was referring to that
day because it really wasn't yumipper
but if it was really yum kipper then of
course it's either or if you were for
shabas you
And if you
say
that's the end of the beer that was
saying he said that there was this year
that there was there was a he decided
that year
came and all the came back from
and they reported they all had heard the
same thing for that when said this me as
it relates to
that you're only going to be if you're
on the shabas, not if you're on the he
wasn't referring to your classic case of
putting them that full on the same day
over there.
Which one either it doesn't matter he
was referring to this case where it was
a shas either way exhale. So we just
concluded a a
relates to really a idea the of and as
we saw the touched on many different
contexts began with a which discusses
the of with regards to the went from and
discuss what about that is on a of a
kosher animal that's in available what
about the gdanosha of kchin what about
the gdanosha of we had a case of kalis
So with regards to someone that's t that
eats kachum that's if someone's tummy is
not kach if kachum is to no one's
allowed to eat it they're two
independent they're related to the same
but they're two independent how does
that relate to the
and finally shabas that fall out on the
same day if somebody does is it for
both only one we saw
we saw
We saw
and
so this is a
trap more says I'm
proved she said that is even by and he
said it has to be that way because the
isa goes back to the times of and at
that time
they were like non kosher animals
In the times of it was only animals.
There were no kosher animals in
told him.
It's true. The mentions
but it wasn't said in really it was said
it was just written in but wasn't said
at that time. Had it been said at that
time then it would affect even non-cos
animals.
So in the the
a little bit their argument they told
had it said in the
so then you could hear that maybe the
was said in real time but that's not
what it says
we know weren't called until says
being that it says you see that the is
said to at the time that the Jews were
called bol which is
It was written why
so we should have a so we should know
why there's
said is it true that the Jews were not
called until there's a poss
when they went to bury in the so you see
that the Jews were referred to as says
the
right after parish
it could be the yidden were referred to
as Ben is but in parish for sure they're
not referred to yet as Ben is because
where the says
the whole mention of Israel is the fact
that the Malik refer to as and that
wouldn't be enough for now the to use
that word and refer to the Jews as but
then when was mas to the name Israel at
that point by that had already happened.
It could be the Jews would be referred
to as Ben Israel. So
if that's the case,
I mean it sounds like there is some
turning point where the Jews are now
referred to as which is even before.
How do you know that? You see that in
par it's not but but you see it a little
bit later into the name Israel and from
that point forward the Jews will be
referred to as so at that point at least
let the gone into effect and at that
point there was still no behemoth so
shouldn't that be a right that is true
even for a
soashi told
was the given multiple times it wasn't
given multiple times
There's only two possibilities of when
was given. It was either given
or it was given by
but to say that the was given
some random time doesn't make any sense.
So being that it's written in you would
think that maybe it was given. The
problem is telling that the are referred
to as so as a result if the are referred
to there is you see that it's not
written so to speak in real time if
that's the case when would it be the
only other is not because it's not a
stabber that would have been given
anywhere between and alaf and the sugis
over here of that we're going through
way way way too even if we did a few
raid bites it would be too fast so uh
we're going through this way too
quickly. So, I just thought that as it
relates to raid, just to lighten up the
dolphin a little bit to speak out a uh
nifla
from the bish of
the margles and this is from his safer.
Now, why are we going to speak out now
from that safer? It's like speak out of
bre I don't think we need an excuse
stating that few days ago we had I think
it was on the v the gar mentioned a yid
by the name of barpuli barpuli was
removing the gdanosha and he was doing
it in the presence of the great amra and
gave him a little muser and he got so
scared that he dropped his knife but
there was a manaker whose name was
barely and in that mara says take a look
at what I wrote in my say form
and on page alif I give a shout out to
and I say something about his name. So
taking the lead of we're going to go
through a little bit the beginning of
the
specifically chapter one and that's
called
pseudonyms in the tal. What's a
pseudonym? A pseudonym is like a
nickname, a pen name, uh not real name
that sometimes was used. And Margolus
has a how you find that there were
different tan and that are mentioned in
shas who were known not by their real
name but rather by some sort of
pseudonym. Truth is this is something
that over the years we've talked about
it's scattered in in some of the rabbits
and really the
to this is
from
and this is the way
starts his I'm just going to read the
first paragraph
says I found
that there are many whose name is
mentioned very infrequently in
maybe this uh
had one that is attributed to him maybe
it's not even it's yet
he was known in my opinion by a name
that's associated with that he saidd
this is very famous. He says there's a
his name wasdah.
He's mentioned in
the mission over there says that if
somebody's walking in the street and he
saw
he saw three coins that were stacked one
on top of the other. So the
you can't keep them at even though
you know is you're allowed to keep
that's from the but if you saw them
stacked then is not
saidd
the only time this is true is if they
were stacked LIKE A MIGDAL THEY WERE
stacked like a tower says
that his name wasdah what kind of name
is migdalah never heard so he says let's
be honest it's probably because of
thisdah
said aboved
and that's probably why he was known BY
THAT NAME IT'S A PSEUDONYM IT'S NOT his
real name it wasn't at the br where they
said
That's probably not what it was, but
rather it was
that he said and he became known based
on this.
He said who name was and he said it's to
me because he's the one that said
smelled he had that was coming from him.
He wasn't.
So too, if you have someone who's mis
somebody that smells, he would not be
allowed to lead the benching
is the one that said regarding
he was known as because he's the author
of this. He said I found another
he's mentioned in
you know what he says in
he turns to and he asks what would be if
somebody says
and then another person would say me too
now specifically the case was where he
said
and the other person went and he said me
too what's did he mean to be nazirus as
well when that person has a child or
maybe when I have a child. But maybe
what he meant to say was
you're so excited. You want to have this
child so badly. You're even making
I'm telling when you have this child.
I'm going to love this child like it's
my own. I'm gonna take care of this
child. Beni is mentioned one place in it
was where someone asks uh where somebody
said
and the other person said does HE MEAN
HE SAYS HE WAS THE one who asked this
that's why he was known as
says it's a to bring us at a time with
said that it says in
I never heard of and the one thing he
ever said in his life was
the only thing that's mentioned over
here in I should say is
so
is it a coincidence that he became known
as not the regular
probably because it is that he said
either way he con concludes and he says
I have many more such examples
There's no one ever who had this
pun intended because it comes from was
mentioned in the was that I'm the one
that brought this in to the world that
sometimes you have this connection
between a and that he said in he's known
by that name not because that was his
real name but that's his pseudonym so to
speak that's his alias and he gets known
as The he said
was mentioned
who's the one that said
does he mean
who's mentioned the first of in
a few first of all said there was no one
before him that ever had this he said
that if you take a look at one of the
commentaries on the that was written by
Ramos Narvi lived in the 14th century he
was a super commentary on the and this
is a paras he makes this observation and
he's mafaling it a little bit that's 500
years before he says not just that the
take a look under
says the he was called because he said
one
regarding the l
and and that's why he's known as AND HE
SAYS BY THE WAY I found it in the as
well this is 100 years or so before
regarding the
why was it because
he said regarding one of the that are
mentioned in the
but the bottom line is that I'm the
first one that says
it's not I found it by in his I found it
in the and I found it already in the
again not but they all were already this
is not the really
he continues and he says that really
after I've seen other people work with
this as well and says I have to be
honest with you I'm not masking to some
of the things I said I saw he quotes
from a s called this is a a pish that
was written on the adus it was printed
one time in vna in the year trees lammed
z right it's fun when you have a
photographic memory but the bottom line
is it was printed one time in trees
lammed z in the in the town of INA and
he said that yid went and he said he was
mamish he was mafling this Indian in an
incredible way he went so far as to say
that he believes shiman ben lish that's
a funny name lish what kind of name is
lish said I think raim ban lish gets
known as rabshim ben lish not because
his father's name was lish I don't think
that's the I think the reason he's known
as
is because of a rabbis is in par
and over there is talking about when
love made his business deal with we went
through that business deal if you
remember
went through it and they had a deal I'm
going to get this and you're going to
get that and
what exactly the deal was
the one was going to get the older ones
was going to get the lishas the lishes.
He was going to get the later ones. So
this
said that to me this whole name luckish
I always found to be interesting and I
think that the reason he was called
luckish is HE'S A BEN LISH BASED ON THIS
member that he said in
now it's good because
to this but to say he was known by that
this was his that he said he went a
little bit further he said we're
familiar with
he said I think was because his father's
name was Mam I never heard a name maml
who's maml mamal right who's maml he
said I think the reason it's called mam
is based on a bas
with the is discussing if somebody sells
a bab what's included what's not
included and one of thinks that's
included is the maml and the says my who
answered the question
said I'll tell you what a maml is so
this said that I think the reason is
called mam is based on this so rumor my
goal is we we have to slow down a little
bit. He said he found one mera that one
Ammyra who's mentioned 4,000 times in J
and has something to do with you can't
the whole thesis is is that
is not a frequently mentioned
and based on that it's maybe to sayd is
called based on the fact that he said
this
are COMPELLING
based on this one of of this member that
he said Lisha he said way too hard for
me to understand that he said besides
what about Rabuda Benish who's mentioned
in Shabasim
and Nuniml right forgot about him he's
also called Ben Lish where you have a
member that he want her says there's
something being you could be a Ben
luckish and that's why he was called Ben
Luckish now Cesar Margar is stating that
I'm going to be might have been mix to
this yet cuz I agree the name Lish I
don't think is a real name again we're
going to take Reub Maros's word for it.
That's usually our policy when it comes
to this, right? So, you know, the
expression is you pick on someone your
own size. So, I'm going to take Rab
Maros's word, but the bottom line is
says I'll be mix. To me, the name Lish
is a little bit of a funny name, but I
don't think he's called Lockish because
of that. First of all, it can't be
that's one out of thousand hundreds
thousands of memories of Rashkish. And
he says besides, but what about Rabud
Lish? He said, well, I'll tell you what
I think. I think there was a city that
was known as Lish and he was known as
Ben Lockish not because his father's
name was Lish but as
he says by the way
that I found Zar Margolus in the in
how is this for who brings from Berlin
the great
Berlin right the most often quoted
that Berlin was bothered he said How did
Rabbi Malish become ralluckish? You ever
think about that? How did he become ra
What does Ray slugish mean? Rabim balish
became rakish
is known as zak. Well, what does that
mean? Raim
it's like it's short. It's abbreviated
for right. Why is he called lish? Says I
don't think it's to say I actually
believe that. He says that there was a
city called Lish and Egra
of Lish and that's why he was known as
Lish and he said don't make from this
because those brings
dedicated his whole life to this heined
very much and he did not know why was
known as Lakish he wasn't simply happy
is like the
is lockish but he was from the city of
Lish and he was also the head of Lish by
the who would have been lish also came
from lish but he wasn't rakish because
he was never the murder but the bottom
line is ra lish comes from lish and he's
known as ra lish because he's the murder
he says as it relates to maml
I'll be honest with you I hear the
horror as well maml I don't think that's
a name I don't think maml is a name the
problem is to say that maml is known as
maml because of what he said in
regarding someone that tells but
it's impossible right he named
It's just not it doesn't even get on to
first base. It's not possible, right? It
can't even be. But besides,
we found
so there's three more mammals that never
said a word about the mam.
Not I'll shame that father was maml
because I agree I I never heard of a
name mam I'll al shame and by the way
you're not sure if there's a place
called
that talks about the base is I'll tell
you even more than that there's a
said that's probably what it was it was
the city mam that's known as and that's
who all these mam
or
but the bottom line is to say this about
and to say this about this is already uh
this is already pushing it I think this
is too
says I think evendah
which is ground zero this is the one
everyone knows that ground zero form
even that I think is I think it's and
the reason is because is mentioned in
other places in chas as well he's
mentioned in shabas
and another place as well.
You can tell me where's
base is before a right
base.
Mak by the way there was another Y whose
name was migdalah he didn't say anything
about
and by the way he's mentioned
and embraces
why is he known as migdalah the ter is
from and
from
I agree with the thesis says I think
it's fantastic and it's not
goes back already
in his classic commentary on the but at
the same time but at the same time he
says I thinkd which is the starting
point for all of this I don't even think
that's right and certainly
that's way way way way beyond the scope
it says I'm going to give you my own
list let me give you my list who I think
is mentioned in your midrashim who I
think these are not real names but these
are the pseudonyms 's
histo by the way is he says you know so
you need a license to say this sometimes
right even wrote a safe which we talk
about all the he has a 50page before he
wrote it because you can even write
something like this so you need a
license if you're ever going to do
something like this and his license is
the talks about the great and the says
boon yeah his name was boon
So why was it called
that happened with the with the son and
the deal and the bad remember
that incredible incredible
but the bottom line is is that his name
wasn't his name was so why they call him
and he says it's interesting by the way
ever make this observation all the had
nicknames all the
I don't know if this is because they
have aliases, but the bottom line is all
these super rich guys. NO, NONE OF THEM
WERE KNOWN BY their regular name. They
all had pseudonyms. But either way,
but you want a license to say
name is Boon.
We He's known as Nakima because of
something that happened to him. So there
could be a Muslim that somebody would be
known by a name because of something
because of something that not happened
to him because of something that he
said. So here's a a very brief the list
is close to 40 names. This is classic
some of them are not I'll just mention a
few he does it in alphabetical order.
This is number three. Remember I is
mentioned in one place in
one
a person can make it tonight regarding
he's mentioned
right. So a person let's say heard that
is going to be coming to he's not sure
and he wants to make to be able to go
here this year. Problem is he doesn't
know which way to make. So with the
braer he could do it says
the even though it says you could do
such a thing it's wrong
you can't make one of these
this is the only that I said in
Right.
He said you have to figure out
you have to figure out where the is. So
that's why right why is he calling him
an alm because we don't know his real
name. So he's the whose name we don't
know. He gets KNOWN AS WHAT? HE GETS
KNOWN as it's because he's the one that
said you HAVE TO KNOW. YOU HAVE TO KNOW
IF HE'S coming to the mid or coming to
the mar. Here's another one.
Our favorite of all time, right?
So why was Ilfa known as? He says I
don't know if was his real name. I'm
says when came back to this medish,
right? So he saw became the rashiva and
Ilfa said that had I stayed in yeshiva
I'm telling you I would have been the
rasha as a matter that they told him and
so he said really you're telling me that
I'm less than ask me any kasha ask me
anything show me a if I can't be push
from a mishna you'll see what's going to
happen so he went
he suspended himself from the mast of a
ship and he said that if I can't figure
one old person took him a little too
literally he says
you know what's the about this and that
he said
an in Aramaic is a ship he says I think
he became known as ilah because of this
incredible it's a real story
where he makes this grand spectacle he
says that's how he became known as
because of that but that's not really
what his name was he says
they discuss if somebody asks an advice
and he gives him the right advice he
gives him the wrong advice. So, uh
there's a whole sugara tells a story
that somebody went to Danka and Iser.
These were two money changers. One was
Danka, the other one was Iser. And they
asked him something and he gave them the
wrong advice and the was that they were
off the hook. He says interesting that
money changers would be known as Danka
and Iser, right? What a what's a danka
in Aramaic? Money. What's an isser? It's
money. He said, I'm assuming they were
called danka is because this was their
gashef. They were money changers. He
says, "By the way, if that's the case,
that mentions one time in."
And you know what the says? He had
12,000 and he had it by you have a guy
whose name is Isugra and
this is 12,000 the is his first name was
cash right
this is his name. So the lights and they
get literally cash by the way. This is
why he's and as a result he became known
as this is how he's known for all for
all generations.
Ever hear this name two places in
he's also mentioned in
funny name says goes pure to me why he's
called
this is this is one nobody would ever
get. He says push it to me. He said
because if you look at that he said in
he's talking about of
walls says right so if you have two I
can't make my wall too close to your
wall it's discussing is related to walls
the says in Ezra this is pervas
so this is in the first year of the
reign of the kingish cyus the great kish
mala sum to aim so kish the king he
issues a decree an edict basil
I want the bas to be built.
The the
city where the is and carbon is going to
be brought the mizen and the walls are
going to be founded.
It should be 60 tall.
X
glow. I want the walls to be made up of
rows, rows of stone, three stones on
each row.
The word
means wall and the world word means
wall. These are very Aramaic words over
here in Pericv in say for Ezra. But
means wall and means wall. Ashad who
said two is one of them is regarding or
you ever heard a name like Ashad said
it's posit because he said regarding
walls and knew these Ezra that talk
about and they knew that is a wall and
is a wall and that's how he became known
as that name Benbach this is another
famous one right why was Bagbach called
said Bagbach and Benihei were both the
same person righthe are both the same
person and they're both Ben Grim and
what what Shikh is because B giml is
five and he is also five and we know
that Ara got the he and S got the hey
and being that Ara and S both got the H.
So that's why they become known as Ben
Bagbag and Behei. Incidentally, Rabu
Margol says that he always thought that
I don't know if Ben Bagbag was really a
a G, but it could be Ben Bagbag was
called Benbagbag because he's the son of
a G. In fact, bag is Ben Garus.
Says it could be his father was a G and
his mother was a guaras and he's known
as Ben Bagbag. Bag means Bengurus. Says
if that's the case, it would open up a
little bit of our mind because in Shabas
Giml there's a Tan who's known as Yehuda
Bengim is Yehuda Bengrim. He said I also
found in Yuma
someone whose name is Yehuda Bengor.
How's that for her name? Yehuda Ben
Gregor. He said I think Yehuda Bengor is
the same name. Ben Garam is like Ben
Bagbback. His father's a Gar, his
mother's a hence he's Ben Garam. And Ben
Groas is the same thing. It's Ben
Viguas. Hence, you end up with a name
like like Benus. Here's another one.
There's someone that's mentioned one
time in his name is Ben Shalus. That's
his name. Ben Shalus. is mentioned
over there says
so we know is allowed to do up until
what point is allowed to do so
until
that's the point that she's allowed to
do it theor says
when I went to Rabaka said
I don't agree with this she and Benalus
I never heard of Benalus so my goals
Rabaka already was ever heard named Ben
Shalus? He says, "I don't think his name
was really Ben Shalus. I don't think his
name was Ben Shalus." He said, "Take a
look at the
it says
and the Rambam says in what does it mean
when it develops here?" the word could
mean here and that's why he was called
benchus because there's one from him and
is a cyrus harbe and that's where I
never heard of bench cuz that wasn't his
real name this was a pseudonym and he's
called this name because this is the one
this is the one
that he said this goes on and on and on
he talks about
who was a
that we say he was
he once talked very shares
And he became
right. He he was physically he was
physically harmed. Why was he called
Benisi? He says maybe because the medum
says that one of the nim was Benusi and
Benusi says that Tanuma was clappy
who did what Gadi Benusi did and that it
was clappy Milo. So it's for that reason
he too became known as that. One last
one he says. You know the great is known
sometimes as what?
He says if you take a look at Rashi in
Sanhedrin
Rash is why he was known as Nafka. He
brings two shot him. One shot is he says
because his father was a a blacksmith
and a blacksmith that's why some he's
known as Barnafra. Then he says another
shot is because he was very handsome and
Nafka has something to do with being
handsome. So it says Ru Margolas being
that Rashi said two shot him. So it's
clear didn't have a clar if you could
say two I could already say a third and
he says maybe because
discussing that we know ordinarily on
his one of the exceptions is
he said it's talking about a certain
type of where it was done by a
blacksmith
he said I had the to be the real in when
and when is it it's
margas I know this is going to undermine
a little bit what I said earlier that's
someone who we have hundreds or if not
thousands of mentioned in there's no way
there's one member that he said that's
going to be a a guiloy and why he was
called by why he was called that's why
we knocked out
in the beginning of this rabbi he said
but this line I've never seen a line
like this in my life
said was so happy with the that he had
to be
that he said
who knows if that's not why sometime not
always it's usually just the great maybe
sometimes he would become known he would
become known as
again if Rashi I wouldn't say anything
but Rashi himself was already unsure
already Rashi saying maybe already you
can go ahead and you could say a third.
But the bottom line is what began with a
thesis for he says with regards to
and we mentioned that
he said it say
others said it regarding which says I
can't even fathom but went through he
went through a list of close to 40
Oh, by the way, we left that we left out
the main one, right? We said there was
bari in. So why is bari called barpuli?
Because you know what it means to do a
mice appeal? It means to BE A MANER.
SAYS that's why he was called barpuli.
Why else would he been known as barpuli?
Because this was his f. This is what he
used to do for a living. And it's for
that reason that this is what uh he was
known by and that's why he was known as
Rab Puli. But the bottom line is he says
if you look around I found close to 40
different times where it's to me that
the pseudonym that he got was based on
this is chapter one in the
chapter two he goes in a little bit of a
different angle. He says I found another
thing and this he says I found countless
times. He says literally countless
countless times and that is you find
sometimes with and would say
that had something to do with their
name. He said they're not called by the
name because of what they said but
because goes the other way around. It's
a chicken and an egg. IT'S BECAUSE of
their name. They had a gishmak in it.
And he goes through just giving examples
one after another. He starts from he
does a he was super methodical right
just to mention a few.
It's not a coincidence.
You ever see him again?
He said, "Take a look at
Said
that's not that's not a right. That's
not a coincidence." He says,
"You just said something about what's
your name?" Oh, my name's Shan. That's
my name. It's I don't think it's a
coincidence.
He said,
he said he said it in three places in
Shabas
coming up. He said, you know, it's the
only three places in that you find the
all three times. I don't think it's
aesh. How about
what about
we've mentioned this in the past?
He said, "By the way, you know how many
times talks about the region Yehuda?"
So,
why is he not talking about the gal? Why
is he talking about Yehuda? He said his
name was Yehud.
talking about.
This is this you get the thing, right?
This just goes on and on and on. The
sheer brilliance of of putting together
a piece like this is just not just not
nea just reminds you of how
the bra the kite of of the there's so
many that you can open where you see the
is something that was
in such an incredible way but either way
why we talk about this in like I said
excuse because bari was mentioned and
and Margolus has him in his list of top
40 pseudonyms and shown as Baruli
because he was a manaker. And to be
maner means you're involved in this
avoid.