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Today's DA is and we will begin from the
last line of
so we're deep in middle of the of which
began with the Mishna on we're learning
which discusses the
which the Torah says way back in
that is not allowed to eat from the
physically was or is in the thigh of the
animal and the discussed what happens if
someone takes the thigh of an animal
which is kosher doesn't remove the gan
which is not kosher and cooks it
together
said that if the gid proportionately to
the is such that it's able to emit
into the it's all going to be if not
it's going to be okay then the continued
and said
what would be if Somebody cooks the
ganosha together with other gidden of
the animal which are kosher.
If you can recognize the so you know
which one is the and which are the ones
that are so then you remove the that's
easy and the is as it relates to the
other if the was able to again emit into
the other then all the are going to be
if not it's if not it's it's going to be
continued
the same would be true not with regards
to so this is the first digression
meaning we're learning
which discusses the but the says that
this principle this of really is true
for all of if you would have a baser to
non-cooser meat or of dtom non-coosher
fish and you would cook it together with
kosher meat or kosher fish respectively
would be that if you know which is the
kosher which is the non-coosher remove
the non-cosher and then determine
whether there's a shear of no time so
that the other will be also there's no
share of either ways
the gan is bash that's if the
is to cooked together with the gen then
the is then you have to remove the gdan
and if you can't recognize the gdan then
all the gdam are going to be awesome
what's the all the gdam are going to be
a because you don't know which of the
which is the gdanosha meaning if the
gdanosha was removed That's when you
start asking yourself was it or was it
not? But if you can't remove the gd
simply because you don't know which is
the gdan or you can't remove the of
because you don't know which is which
then it's all going to be why is it
because it's a riser now and is going to
be do it nice and time you just don't
know which is the you might be taking a
bite into the which is something you
can't do but the asks why is that so
why don't we say meaning just like
as it relates to we know there's also as
it relates to so the cash is that even
if you can't identify the why don't you
say that the is to the other and is that
it should be okay now of course if you
would know which one is the no but the
says
if you don't know which is the
if you don't know which is which then
you have
it's like the case we've spoken about a
few times we have three hamburgers two
are kosher one is not kosher you eat all
three. So you have a few gon one is not
kosher the other ones are kosher. So is
you should be able to eat all of them.
So why is it's not going to be okay. And
theor says an important
that has a whole sim dedicated to it and
that is it's true. There's a
but there are exceptions to the rule.
Not every
says
one of the exceptions meaning one of the
times that the mood and would not be
bottle is if the mood is a barrier. What
does that mean? It means usually it's a
a live creature or a creature. So for
example a null an ant is very very
small. It doesn't meet any of the shim
as it relates to at the same time if
somebody eats an amola even if your old
is is not awesome in you're going to get
malus for eating the null. The reason is
because it has a by virtue of the fact
that it's a barrier. The point is that
anytime something is a barrier, it's a a
living creature loosely translated is
you say that it's considered
and as it relates to it's not going to
be ganosha is considered a barrier even
though it's only a g. But the reason it
has a kash of a barrier is because the
tora is said that the ganosha is thus
the entire gid is looked at as an entity
onto itself. We treat it as a a barrier.
We had this already a few times earlier
in parad said that the say that if
somebody eats even of the he's going to
get malus even though ordinarily
requires gaz but the like the ant it's
considered a barrier. So here too you
have that barrier. So barrier applies to
the malus. It also applies to the
is a barrier. You don't say
and gave another case instead of
that
is if you don't know which is which
they're all going to be afraid to come
over to and here you can't tell me
because we're dealing with a piece of
meat. A piece of meat is not a a entire
animal would be a barrier, but a piece
of meat is not considered a barrier.
Throughout we know that another
exception to the rule of when you don't
say
is if you have
something that's or more specifically as
relates to this if you have a
something that people count. So things
that are sold bulk
means that each individual item is not
so mean that each individual item is is
not so. So there you have but where
things are to the point that people
count them individually. So then the is
that it's considered a minion is not
possible but this is throughout
what exactly the definition of is some
say is something that's always counted
that if every single in the world is
getting accounted right they don't say
just take all the diamonds sitting here
and you know give me x amount of dollars
a diamond is something that's av minion
always as opposed to something that only
sometimes people count others will know
that the definition of million is as
long as people sometimes counted that
would be enough the pieces of meat.
Sometimes people count, sometime people
do not count
[snorts]
that says that anything that people
sometimes count that's enough for it to
be
is not.
So it's very good why in the
accord says the only time something is
considered is if it's something that
people always count
and
we're talking about a piece of meat. A
piece of meat is not because of
you're right. It's not a barrier. So
that doesn't give it a but at the same
time being that if you had a guest you
would be with a piece of meat that gives
the piece of meat. It's what's known
throughout as
something that's used a lot in slang.
But this is where it comes from. There's
a concept of
a piece of meat being that people on the
with it. It gives it a and it's for that
reason it's not going to be bottled says
the essentially the taught me as it
relates to
ordinarily if you have a
stating that you saw in the gan is not
bottle and
of meat whether it's buser or fish are
also not bottle when it comes to ganosha
is not bottle why because it's a barrier
a kik is not bottle
says you need both because each is
different.
We only had
I mean they're two different
because it's a barrier
because it's I would never know one from
the other. Maybe I don't know maybe
so the Mishna made it very clear. The
mish said both cases
teach me this. The bottom line is the
take away from this. We'll come back to
this soon with the rain. But the
takeaway for right now is that even
though there's a concept called you
don't always say
and really what we saw in this is three
times that you don't say that. Number
one, if you have a barrier. Number two,
what's a minion? That's throughout
something that people always count or
something that people sometimes count.
And
again, all examples of when you don't
say
and this next is a classic. In fact,
this is one of the more important gim in
the sugana
seem to be saying something very
straightforward. He says that if a of
falls into a pot that has kosher meat
inside or of tummy non- kosher fish
falls into a pot that has kosher fish
inside. So what's the noise? How do you
know? So we know there's different ways
to do it. You give it to a jutaste a
nonjutaste. But in the worst case
scenario for sure there's something
called shisha. So if you have 60 times
kga is this doesn't count. You need 60
of on one side the one is on the other
side then is it's going to be okay. Now
what's included in what counts as hater?
So we saw already the meat the ro that's
the soup the keepa that's the little bit
of meat and spices that fall to the
bottom of the pot. The itself maybe you
can count there's a way to figure out
because just like the bleet it's also so
that's a little bit confusing but at
first glance all said was things that we
already know.
So if it's nice and time in the
meaning when you add up all the
ratio is more than 160th
it's going to be awesome. If it's going
to be less than 160th, it's going to be
stating that
Ra heard what Rabbi said and he told his
mur his speaker of the house. He said,
"Get up and I want you to give a I want
you to be against what said cuz I
disagree with Rabbi." What did he said?
So he got up and he said as follows in
the name of
that
now
becomes
unto itself
and it has the ability to answer all the
other that are in the pot
because it's
meat and meat and is lov
heard what Rabbana said to us. It seemed
very straightforward but Ra didn't like
it and was and he said two things the
first thing Rab said was that of
the
becomes unto itself. The second thing
that Rav said was
let's analyze each one individually and
then figure out why Rav had to say both
is gonna help us either way said number
if any
that's into so if there isn't
the becomes
if it becomes if that would now fall
into a with other
naturally
would have the ability to or all the
other. Here's the question. Here's the
101. When this newly found
[clears throat] falls into a kad with
other, meaning you have a piece of
kosher meat that is not kosher by virtue
of the fact that it was cooked with a
non-coosher piece of meat and it didn't
have shisha to be. So essentially has a
ble of inside of it. Now that piece of
kosher meat that has a non-coosher meat
thus it's not kosher was with other
pieces of kosher meat. So it's a
you need shishim to be do you need
shishim the of iser that's inside the
kosher piece of meat or maybe you need
of
the entire piece of meat said
was that given
when
we look at the because it is in it as is
of and you need to be the entire we said
you always have to because you don't
know how much is coming out. So to this
although you know there's a tiny bit of
Isra in it there's nothing in it really
it doesn't matter
also known as
so now you need to be the entire piece
because it becomes an unto itself that's
the first said the second said was that
as it relates to
the is what does that mean that's
we don't like and We pass the
not only is but like we spoke out is
much more than au.
But the bottom line is Rav obviously
held he held that. So because of these
two
because of these two Rav was arguing
with Rabban. Now the truth is if you
think about it each point that Rav made
was a good connected Rabban unto itself.
Number one, what's telling Rabbak?
You're saying that if you have a sir
that falls into a so just make sure that
everything is going to be God says Rob,
well not so fast. Why? Because what you
need to do is you actually have to
analyze this this individually. You have
to do a segregation within the the
kadra. Why? Because what happens if the
of first came in contact with one of
let's say it came in contact with one of
and then afterwards the and the hat both
came in contact with the rest of the so
[snorts] just to visualize it you had a
that's in a pot and sticking out from
the top of the pot and then there's of
that's also sticking out. So those two
come in contact before you miss that
piece of meat or those piece of meats
together with the rest of the pot. Being
that Rob holds no as soon as the kiko
comes in contact with the out they're
both katikas of so now it's not enough
to have the original now you have to
have both katas now if you don't hold so
it's not a because at the end of the day
all you need to do is be
so it's not going to change anything as
long as you have shishim in the pot when
you're mission together say you're going
to be okay but being that holds
so as soon as the
came in contact with the katikas the
katikas now became a katik is so now
when you do the shish you don't add just
one piece of katikas is on the right
side of the balance sheet you need two
cuz the katikas had now also became a
katik is if it's only the ble inside of
it that's that's a problem so the ble is
the ble it doesn't matter if it came to
contact first or later the end of the
day all you need to do is have shishim
connect with all the ble that can
possibly come out of the one of you have
shished it it's not an issue It doesn't
matter the history and the the route
that this took as it made its way to the
bottom of your chicken soup. Nobody
cares. But if your
No, they have to sit down. You have to
literally analyze every rest stop that
it stopped off at because as soon as it
came in contact with one piece of meat
before there was egg it now the whole
new there's a whole new non-coosh piece
of meat in this pot.
That's the first order. The second aura
that Rav said again raises
Rav's. The second aura that Rav seems to
be saying is we hold like
we're dealing with meat. So this this is
a mood point. What are we talking about?
It's not nice and the right side to the
left side. It doesn't matter at the end
of the day says the
heard this exchange. He heard Rabbana's
and then he heard Rav's rebuttal said
why did Raf need two comments? I mean is
a major and at some point in the taris
it's important for to share it with us
but if rab's whole was to argue with all
ra had to say was we pass like then
so if you have a that falls into you
don't do any math there's there's
nothing to do there's no experiments
that need to be made because
it's clear from where on the end of what
Rav said.
So then the whole thing is is a moot
point meaning Rab is saying two things
to the extent that Ra held then then we
don't have to have a conversation about
so really what Rab should have told was
very simple we hold
and as a result I don't understand your
mean Rab is saying two things each of
which is a
but really the latter point is the
checkmate because the first point Rab is
saying is it's not so simple that you
have shishim yet you can't just be mash
or ka the one katika sister you need to
take kanan into equation and as a result
maybe the katika sister came in contact
with one katika before it came in
contact with the rest of the as a result
you need to do the math assuming that
there's not one piece of this or maybe
two or maybe three okay that's a
hypothetical thing that's something that
you can verify maybe but as it relates
to the second time that this is
checkmate if
why Did Rav have to come on toan? Why
did R just say why did R just say that?
So the original piece of meat that falls
into the for sure was able to make
everything
too simple to root him. Not simple at
all, but seemingly simple to root
number one. We're talking about where
the piece the Iser came in contact with
the sat and then afterwards you remove
the
was taken away and being that the was
taken away before the other of were put
into the so it comes out the original
never came in contact with the other of
it only came in contact with one
of being that that's the case you don't
have The of
you have to come on to the fact that the
[laughter] of was
in the
and that
thus the only way you're going to have
is if there's going to be
this newly found.
We'll explain that soon. But the point
is the point is is the reason that we're
looking at the relationship between the
original
and the waso and not merely saying that
the original just made everything in the
poter because
the original never came in contact with
everything in the pot. Why didn't it
come in contact with everything in the
pot? Because it was removed.
You don't have to say that.
And actually the way he seems to explain
the gamorra is that every time you have
a pot where you have is and bosser and
buster there's always going to be anoi
in the pot as well. I mean the classic
example of a tarub is mino is you cook
kosher meat with non- kosher meat but
really in the pot of kosher meat which
is minoi with the non-coosher meat
there's also going to be because you're
going to have the spices which is and
you're going to have the rov the soup
the water which is also going to be the
point is the way you look at the is as
if you have and what's if you have
so is that you look at
That's the rule.
You may believe it's not here. It does
nothing. And the is going to go ahead
and it's going to have the ability to be
to the extent that this shish and this
is true even according to that holds
but that's only if it's only but if it's
so on the side you have and the is side
you have so there the is that the really
don't do anything to each other but
rather what happens is is over there you
just look at the you ask Could the be
then it's going to be if it can't be it
won't be being that this over here was a
so it's for that reason you couldn't
simply invoke
you had to now start making so what said
was is that being that
over here it's even according to
know how much is you have in the pot
because to the extent that we
So when you do the of even though we're
going according to that holds
but still the is going to be take it
into consideration you're going to have
to do the math. Thus what Rabb was
saying was
you're going to have two that you have
to take into account not just one that
you have to take into account either
way. So we have
the reason said this was was to argue
with
said falls into a pot of kosher. So
what's you do the math you take the isra
on one side you take all the on the
other side and you ask yourself do you
have a or not ra said no it's not so
simple said because you have to look at
exactly how the came into the and if it
first came in contact with one
then that also becomes that
also becomes now that you have two
of so now when you do the shishim you
have to make sure there's not connected
one now you have to make sure that
there's going
And asked that and then continued he
said
question was hold then anyways what do
you need is available for said the
reason you need it is so there's really
two just understand there's two things
that need to be clarified the first
thing that needs to be clarified is what
do you need
for garum said you need what does mean
that if you remove the first katikaser
before all the other katikas that had
their came into the pot then what would
where would you have them what would
give the kikas is originally an ability
to make all the other they never came in
contact with each other it's only
because
that that's going to be the case but the
truth is if you think about it it
doesn't make any sense because once the
original is makes
Even if you don't say
right now what you're left with is so
right now what you're left with is
albeit because it hasn't
and maybe you don't say
but at the end of the day it's
with the other and if you like
so let go ahead and ask it
that you called the silk guy. So it's
for that reason you have to come out.
What do you have to come out toan for?
As long as the first made the second
even without the of
you should have the that came in contact
with the other saying. So we're trying
to explain why R needed and wait we
still don't understand why he needed the
first what did he needan for?
to make this
into a it's a very big it's a very
important lumbus in of what's it
necessary why did he need this major
lumbus of
even if it would have been it's still
and it's with the other so if it's with
the other let it go ahead and you see
from here
you see from here that the only time
is
is if the doer is
but if you have something that hasn't of
so let's say you have a a vegetable that
hasn't of and now it would come in
contact with with so when you say
because it's a of iser which is with so
there's no way to you see from that that
wouldn't be the case you see from that
of wouldn't be enough to say oh I have a
I know it's from that minus
you need come on to the fact that the
entire
is now in order for you to be able to
say the
so it's only because of
that you can now use
meaning if the all the meat was in the
pot together then you don't have to come
out like the because then the original
piece of is anyways going knock out all
the all the Ber because
the original piece of meat never came in
contact with all the other piece of meat
in the so now what's the sh what about
the one piece of meat that it did come
in contact with that it was nice and
could that now it so if you hold bottle
it should be a point no it's not true
because even if bottle but a doesn't
have a kayak in the world
is if
But if it just has a you don't say
once has a becomes unto itself
[laughter]
is to itself. So now you have
but there's another and the second is
and has two truths into this. The second
is
that what did say
once the first piece of meat is the
second piece of meat then you say oh
once you have now you can have
let's just think in the terms of the
gumar's first
if hold
did he need that the first piece of meat
should be nice and t in the second what
was his
What do you need it to be nice and if
you even if it's not nice and time means
is less than what do you need that it
should be nice and time for even if it
wasn't nice in time if you bottle the
first piece of meat comes in contact
with the second piece of meat both
pieces of meat are now
and if if that's the case even if you
cut the first piece of meat the second
piece of meat's going to answer and it's
because
It sounds like Rav's saying that in
order to get this going to get the train
moving, you need to establish first that
the first piece of meat was nice and
common to the second piece of meat. Now
you can say
why did
we're going who holds that
it's true that holds
you see from this very that even though
holds
and rav
but if you have a bottle that's not
enough to create aan in order to have
you have to have a real tom of the it's
true
but it doesn't mean that the is not you
have a thousand times head to connect
it's not
he learns it from
but of course it's not so that it's not
so it's still different. When does it
manifest itself? You don't have
the only time you say
is if it's physically. If it's now you
could say so that's why even though
he still had
brings the second
we're not going to go into it now we'll
save this for the
from here that even though
really does not hold
in this how do you learn the that's why
it's a little tus but uh one of the
reasons but the point is is that the
only time you say is
So,
but when it comes to regular such as an
argu
and that's why answer is but the point
is what the point is is that it relates
to the first
but the saying is that holds
but you see
number one you see the only time you see
that's only if the was and even though
it's possible possible sometimes to have
a
where the is
such as which is
according to it doesn't matter but
that's not going to be enough to say
another thing that emerged from this is
that according to the you would need
that the entire
in order to establish that now the
criteria to have a min of which is the
alf of of had if you had
of that has a
that wouldn't be enough to establish
that's why had come on
afterwards come
exile either way again this is not such
an easy gimmar a few very important but
there's some other important that we
have to speak out before we start the
next Mishna number one so we started the
daff with a very straightforward
question the mission said that if
somebody cooks the gan together with
other gida Now he doesn't know which one
is which. So if you can't identify the
you have to get rid of all them. The
same is true if you cook together with
other tell me with other if you don't
know which one is which you have to get
rid of all them as cash. Why do you have
to get rid of all of them? Why don't you
say right? What happened to the said
the barrier is because it's a
it sounds like from the
very important you say this now that
what's the of course it's no there is
because we're learning the sug now and
in the sug is when it comes to food we
know there's a concept of shishim that
unless you have shishim of negative
is that you don't have in the it sounds
like from this very clearly that the
only time that's true is if you have a
but if you have au of then the is all
you need is so of where the things got
mixed up with each other then there's of
but when it comes to
over there there's no of where do you
see that in the garra because the gar's
question was
if there's
Then the Gumar's cash is not the Gumar's
maybe or you could very easily answer
the Mish talking about we don't have but
it sounds like the in your classic case
when you your is cooking with other you
probably don't have still the
has to come on to
but it sounds like that ordinarily when
it comes to a
you need
stating that it's not So posh
says like this
somebody has
it got mixed up with other
if the
same
and the says the what does mean
they're not mixed together the
is identifiable
It's just mixed up and you can't What's
as long as you have two times
says that's not even as long as it's
bottle
and you're allowed to eat it. Then the
says not just that one person could eat
it
but he has to eat it one at a time.
He shouldn't eat all three at the same
time.
Then says that says that you shouldn't
eat all of them. One person shouldn't
eat all of them. Even says
and then he says even another
they get rid of one of them throw it
away and give it to a guy and then eat
the the rest.
But this is only the bottom line is it
says the
as long as it's not
it's going to be says
this is only if it's
what if the
is even if it's
the is so positive. Yeah,
I know that from throughout chess,
right? No, it's not so simple. Not so
simple. Sometimes it's true, but
sometimes is you're going to have to
have what does it depend on? If it's
then the is all you need is right. If
it's then what's the difference? Why
does it matter if it's or if it's say
the
it's very very straightforward. The
reason this is false because what's the
shish the shish is although it's true
ordinarily
which means you go a and of extends
itself extends itself to bit as well but
at the same time there's something
called and as long as the is being nice
and time in the voice there's something
called and is going to be a problem
stating that stating that the only time
you have to is when you have a tar voice
of but if you have a voice of there is
no time. So if there's no time it's then
there shouldn't be of so why then is
there of according to the which is the
reason is it's
so if you have a I tell you you can eat
this certainly sounds like I can also
cook it. Oh, once you cook it, it's not
so simple because if the is then you're
going to run into problems of Tomker.
Now you ask me once it's buckle it
should all be. So even if you cooked it
so that's
this is a whole different but the point
is is that it's for that reason went
ahead and made they said that even
though there's no when it comes to but
you might cook it and that you might
cook it. So
we're going to go ahead and we're going
to make it a problem. For that reason
is
which is by
and they said
but
which is only like we've spoken out so
many times that is the
but it's only
so being that over there the is that
it's only
Oh, it's only so
we're not going to go ahead and
clear. So,
so there we made
but
only because
so there we're not going to be.
So if you think about it, it what comes
out just to in summation
the only time you need is if you have a
so over there you have the of
there were two times that went ahead and
they were they
And they were
this is 101 base is not ra this is they
haveite whenever come up. So what's the
smart is very simple
because it's
so
although it's so it doesn't meet both
criteria but it's
it has one common denominator that's
enough for it to be
if
I mean it's the same exact It's also
it's not in terms of the nature of the
is only but it's both. So as long as
it's
rice that was enough for the rabbon to
go ahead and make
now IT'S NOT AT ALL NUMBER ONE it's
rice is only when it's number two it's
rice is only so it's not anyway it's not
anyway there it's going to be there's
not going to be of so when you have a in
your case with a with a hamburger get
mixed up so what's do you need
it's Everyone
it's it's not always true. It's true if
it's a voice of
that has no
is going to be that
all you're going to need is but if it's
a
that's the equivalent thereof to a
what was one to do with the other? No,
they're both at the top.
One is
the other is
the bottom line is is that
where it's over there is going to be
another important. So the mentioned that
even though ordinarily
is
but at the same time there are times
that it's not and we had a few examples
barrier
The truth is if you look in
so
is barrier
is another exception to the rule.
So even though ordinarily
it's not always the case. There are
times where it's not going to be
bottled. The taz in the beginning of
again this no
in the beginning of says something very
important. He says
this idea that you find throughout
being that you find Barry has a level
where do you find that
even if it's going to get
you're going to get malus
Because you find this idea that a rice
level applied it on their level as well.
All these cases, all these
the first half of easier half is that
this that we find that's only
it's going to be it's only that it's not
going to be but just one which is and
now we'll go and that is that even
though the T says for it doesn't make
any that this idea that burial bottle is
only
it's in
So the doesn't have it there's
and over there it's in the
tucked away is
the context over there is the talks
about
so we know that one of the carbon that
come up a lot in it's also one of the
maestro was so a person had to take one
tenth of his animal and he had to be m
he was allowed to eat it himself mice
was unique that the bum himself got to
eat it. You didn't have to give any of
it to the kite, but at the same time it
had a certain kadusha. It was a carbon
and and and it was it's one of the
carbonas that are are listed. It's
something called now one of the is is
that you can't count an animal twice.
Once an animal goes underneath the it
can't go a second time.
discussed the case where
was like this is the backdrop of so
if an animal was counted already it was
number seven
and then he jumped back in. So now you
have one animal that technically can't
count as one of the 10. So it throws
everything off. Says the it's aishn
they're all going to be because once you
have one animal here that's ple it can't
go under the sh again. It can't be the
10th. It can't even be the fourth. So
you're at you're out of business.
There's no way for you to go ahead now
and establish twice the obvious why
learn the
why don't you say
let it be.
SO everyone knows the Russia's terrors.
What's the Russia's terrors? Even when
you say doesn't have an ability to be
suffic
but it can't create that's the punch
line can't create and when it comes to
and when it comes to there's a vari
and if you only know that this is the
because of it's still called
is not enough to establish
v does that mean is not fake
whatever. But the point is the point is
that's the terrorist. So everybody
focuses on the
is like the is part of the
what are you going to tell me it's very
simple.
This is for sure. I mean you literally
is the mitzvah counted right but says
no the
is only
so goes back and forth and then says oh
you know what I think you're going to
tell me maybe you're going to tell me
that the reason this is not a problem is
because it's a barrier oh it's a barrier
barrier
says it's a mistake and there's a long
in the beginning of the over here in
that didn't talk about and when talks
about why this wouldn't be a barrier
he says that he found in the that said
that
why did more that why did
asked the
let this one
that jumped back into the herd be so
says I have a few reasons why maybe
that's only right it's still Then what
about bar says here you have to come on
to the fact that
I am what I said in
I told you why it's not going to be
was bothered he says doesn't understand
once said is not a reason because it's
only why did he say bury is also not a
reason because burri is also only that's
the taz the beginning of where the says
that burri
All these things are only so
it's not a terror.
What about barrier? Oh, take a look.
I'm reading from
the
barrier
that is different.
You see between
this is not just some random. This is a
brought down by
But either way, so even though it's
usually universally accepted that all
these things are buried is only on the
level stating that there's a tucked away
prime real estate and the
in addition to all the that you have in
that you have another over there that is
not but rather it's actually something
that's true.
We return to the of
is true for kosher animals, but it's not
for non-cooser animals says even for non
kosher animals
said, "How could you tell me that
there's no
by non-coosher animals? What's the
origin of?
It goes back to
kosher and non-cooser in those days." So
they told him back no
really the wasn't said in it was said in
real time
it was just written
because the is that was said in was
related to what happened in but that
was not said in real time it was said in
it was just written in either way we
or if it's not.
At first glance, if you ask the man on
the street, should there be by a non
non-cultural animal? The first thing
that has to come to mind is there's a
you can't something can't be for two
reasons or differently. One something
can't become. So how could you have on a
known culture animal? Don't you have a
problem of so
says that
it sounds like
I would think that of has an ability to
be the person that eats it
like what's
in addition to being it's also right
it's adding insult to injury so you ate
Na you got mocks oh by the way you also
tummy right so that's that's somebody
eats
or of an it also becomes it's different
type of very unique to it's what's known
as
if you swallow it the clothing that
you're wearing becomes so says as
follows you would think that this is
true for kosher birds and non- kosher
birds
it says thou shalt not eat and then it
says if you eat it you're going to
become we learned from
if there's a a bird or an animal that
has
Then there's also the but [snorts]
non-osher bird
there's no th
all there is is the is of the fact that
it's non-cooser thus you're not going to
have to so what do you see from here
that if somebody eats the of a
non-cooser bird he doesn't become you
know why because novel the only time you
have to have is available
why should a non- kosher bird not have a
say in the what's this to say only for
kosher birds not non- kosher birds must
be
so once a bird is not kosher when it
later dies
because
how could that if somebody eats the he
is it's the is going to apply even if
it's of a non-coosher animal if it's a
non-cos animal don't you have an says
I'll give you a suggestion
How do you know from
that if somebody eats the he's
for eating a non-coosher animal? Maybe
you get but you don't have the is of
eating a non-culture. What say?
What ganosha is also even for a beha
maybe only ganosha but when you eat a
beha there is no isser for eating a
non-cos why not maybe because he holds
so in general are the
so if you hold of course but as relates
to the regular
the fact they ate non-coosher food maybe
that you're not going to haveud
also holds that is
How do you reconcile those two things?
Very
only holds this. There's no for eating.
But the says can't be
clear.
Even though in the Mishna all you see is
there have you the holes that you get in
Malcus for eating the
but in the B he said it's it's one for
and one for again the question is from
how could you get how could it be by
says the I'll tell you a different
you know that from the rebud holds
you know that from the so how is it
possible that both
holds that when does come about when as
soon as the animal is already a fetus
when it's a in the state of fetus at
that point is it's already considered
uh g to the point that you're going to
be so what how did that help anything oh
that's the case when does the isma
When does the of this animal go into
effect? When it's a fetus. When is the
when it's a fetus? If that's the case,
see the two at the same time. If the two
at the same time, then you could say
means the can't be on the other. But if
both happen at the same time, then it's
not going to be a problem. The says
we have way too much information about
[laughter]
to be able to get away with these
answers. We know holds that there is no
holds
even on a fetus.
It's not
right.
So
again, how could you have both?
And he holds
and he holds that. So what are we going
to do? Says
the only time that there's no on a fetus
that's the fetus of a kosher animal.
What's the of that? We don't have to go
through it again. We've been talking
about this since why don't we have to go
what is what was
holds like the Ben is so the way Rabuda
looks at a fetus is he looks at it as
being part of the mother. So if it's
part of the mother there's no if it's
part of the mother there's no it doesn't
need
it's an animal for itself
what's the you don't have to the fetus
it says in the title
that's only by a kosher animal where
it's true
non-coosher animal
right you don't have such a
so it's only is a major
we have over
is going to be there won't be
wow so comes out
this point in according to
says
doesn't work anyways you can't tell me
that at the same time as time we learn
to the again this is we've seen this
already
comes in contact with Tommo he has to
start his ner all over again. He has to
be and start from scratch. He comes in
contact with
or he comes in contact with everybody
was bothered.
If you come in contact WITH A FULL
CORPSE OR WITH a once you say you don't
have to say the
no
where you had a where
weren't fully developed yet. So really
you don't have a kazay and over there is
that if somebody comes in contact with
it he is going to be as far as a goes
what do you see from here it's a you see
that there's a stage in the fetus's life
where there's no yet but at the same
time it's considered a burial
that comes in contact with it
which means that the is
what does that mean because the
as soon as it's a even
then at that point you physically can't
have the
so what's the point how could you tell
me
who says that the
given by
is because he holds that although
but the two
when it's a fetus
And it's that
before because the
at that point you already have the
so again
you have to say that
we had this as well
is is that it's true ordinarily but is
different.
What was he trying to say?
This is what he was trying to say. This
is the whole punch line of saying you
know why this
are you gonna ask me because it goes
back to it was already
and any that goes back to even though
you say the point is we had
said that this even for a non-coser
animal the question was what happened to
so first tried saying maybe is and the
said that that doesn't Maybe never said
that there's two isur. Maybe he only
met. We know from said that you do have
both. Maybe
holds that they're both
that's not going to work for a kosher
animal there's no by a fetus anyways.
And even for a non-cooser animal we know
that there's a period where the
says you have to say is that although
it's true ordinarily
but any that's also
being
that's why it is going to be even for
behemoth mayor.