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guys um i'm here with two very special
people over here that came down all the
way from
well he came from germany
oh it's not not a long commute oh this
office is right here in lakewood
okay amazing oh here's david he actually
coordinated this whole
meeting today
so david can you introduce two special
people to the community
so um this is frank and john both are
external affairs guys for uh jcp and l
the electric company provides electric
to our area
and um you know the last few weeks we
were hit with many power outages
and
you know i was frustrated and so were
you know all my neighbors and friends
and uh so i called my good friend frank
and uh asked him if they would come out
to the community he brought his friend
john that
does but the ocean county affairs for
jcp l
to explain for our exactly i can tell
you especially me i'm in the real estate
industry i
brought a lot of people from from the
city and they're not used to those
blackouts and they always call me like
this is the reason why i moved here to
have this blackout especially this year
when it's more often i don't know what
the reason is because i'm sure they have
explanation for that
but so this is the reason why we came
and tried to explain to the community
exactly so tell us what what's the real
reason why this year we have like
thank god it's not long i'm not talking
about uh days without electricity but
i'm talking about short power outages
here and there and you know
it's also a little bit frustrating
instead of sometimes the middle of the
day and it's uh
no air conditioning no cooking you know
the ovens don't work properly and uh
reset the clock every time
i missed
i missed a few of my meetings already
because my alarm clock didn't wake me up
in the morning oh my gosh you got to be
up before the alarm clock your phone and
look i i think david touched on
something that was really important and
i'm frank luna and this is john mean and
when david called and said there were
concerns in the community it's really
important to jcp l and us personally
that we're responsive to folks who have
concerns and i think that's why john and
i wanted to come by also to get some
nice gelato yeah
you can always you can always get us out
when you offer a meeting at a gelato
place so it does help john will chop
into some of the recent lakewood outages
and uh yeah
so let's hear let's what's the reason
why
this year is more than any other years
so so this year specifically uh in the
month of july we've been experiencing
some severe weather just rolling through
the the region um either daily or or
every other day
just to last night but we had a tornado
warning right for our area and
watching the radar is coming right at us
we've had lightning storms a few times a
week and we've had although the wind
hasn't been as bad and that's a typical
cause for for power outages is wind tree
related outages are
predominantly the cause of the outages
overwhelming yeah yeah it's it's it's
and we've come a long way with the tree
trimming in the last few years touch on
the transmission issues that we had most
recently that impacted lakewood in
tanzania so one of the largest outages
we had last week two weeks ago um in in
lakewood here where we had um
you know thousands of people out at one
time and when you see an outage where
you see you know 100 people that's one
thing when you see an average of 1200
1500 1800 5000 people it's almost all
either substation or transmission
related right so we're talking about the
bulk power not not the lines in front of
your home in a residential area we're
talking about the high tension right the
lines uh the transmission lines in the
cleared field
if we take a lightning strike on there
or something that creates a voltage
issue and we have a trip on that the
trip is where the the breaker opens no
different than at home uh you have a
power strip on your your computer or
if there's a voltage of regularity it
opens that to protect the equipment our
transmission breakers do exactly the
same so if we sustain it just on a
bigger scale just on a much much bigger
scale right and if we have a trip and
that breaker opens well everything
downstream of there is out of power so i
assume there's two reasons why they can
trip or it's like a tree fell down
nearby it's a fault either way so or
it's from the light a lightning strike
has been an issue you would never think
about that so what happens from when
when the power outages what would you
recommend people to do the first thing
always call always report the outage
even if your neighbor reported it you
know uh we get that a lot somebody says
that my name request street reporter so
i don't have to only one time make sure
you report once once and only once when
when you
report the same marriage multiple times
it creates a second order and those
orders that have to be cleaned up and
canceled and unfortunately sometimes the
original order can be canceled it just
adds confusion during a time where we
are all working on the restoration so uh
you know to to to help us to get the
power back on
haul it in immediately and don't
continue to call it in you can check our
website through your phone or smartphone
or yeah i see usually you you you say
like approximately a time when it's
gonna be turned on
and we're working on that our estimated
time restoration is frankie sander we
call an etr um
we're we're
working extensively on being able to
provide more accurate um atr's what we
call a user btr so what happens a little
bit behind the scenes as soon as the the
custom the customers are calling the
people that have don't have hours to
call in you rather send on a crew to
that specific area which you think that
the trip then you just have a cruise we
start patrolling right so usually
sometimes it takes two hours sometimes
you can take overnight well it depends
on what what the issue is right so let's
say for instance in the storms we've had
um we've had a lot of say of outages and
there were large larger number outages
but duration hasn't been as bad i think
you touched on that and that's because
we've experienced a lot of trips so in a
trip there could be one repair
uh if a repair um and then just
patrolling it making sure everything's
good before you heat it back up and
close but if it involves a tree tree
full or whatever that's when it comes
more complicated it becomes very
complicated especially when you add wind
right when we have a wind event along
with the lightning we have tree limbs
trees coming down taking poles down
multiple poles down well you can have a
pole come down it could be affecting 100
customers or 100 homes say and it could
take us four six eight hours depending
on the conditions we didn't go down and
you have to pick up the pole and because
everything
sometimes we can't even get our workers
up in the air in a truck if the wind is
35 miles an hour
what happens if it's happening what's it
one o'clock at night you have cruise all
night all day we'll call more more crews
in before that there's a call-out
process um so you have people are
working 24 hours a day as well yeah
they're on christmas yeah i mean for us
you know christmas last year was so it's
definitely something that you are on top
of it and trying to do everything to
make sure that um to be to be restored
as soon as possible so so imagine this
so you're in real estate right so our
business is electric utility we don't
generate we just distribute right so no
we deliver the energy um
during a power outage when you have
thousands of of residents out especially
during the summer months where where the
usage is high air conditioning and such
when you have a a percentage of your
market share
i'm no longer using your product because
there's an outage it's in your best
interest to get that power back on as
quickly as possible absolutely so it's
not just
i mean it's obviously it's something we
want to do to get everybody back in
their safety issues concerned just
traffic lights are out there people
would manage general welfare yeah health
and happiness but we often get
comments from people and i know they're
just venting but they'll say something
to the effect of well you guys are just
a big electric company you really don't
care about the the people you don't care
if our power quest back on i mean it
doesn't look like saying you don't care
about selling
right you do and that's why you you you
put as much effort into exactly this is
what i mean you came down all the way
here to lakewood to show
us uh that's good dave if david asks us
to go somewhere he's a buddy r so we
gotta make sure you know we but and
that's important to the company it's
very important to our company that
customers
throughout the entire region feel that
we're responsive and coming down and
sitting and talking with you guys is
going to reach thousands of folks and
let them know like hey we're here we're
in the community we care about the
concerns we want to keep people's power
on you know david and i are in general
now let me ask you a question it's
probably i know the answer about maybe
you can explain it better why in this
city you don't see that much uh power
outages
because the y is underneath so why maybe
maybe you should start doing that
putting the wires underneath there have
been studies on this and and there's um
there's a massive massive cost to
underground um i mean most new
developments that i sell
guys it's that state law it's been like
that for decades so any new development
underground but they're still being fed
overhead
right so you can't say well hey you know
we're an underground development so we
don't have to worry about wednesday
actually we shouldn't put it on the
ground we read it for the aeriv now
but think about this in brooklyn you
have how many square how many
mileage of of lines of you know of
wires do you have for how many people
over here you you're talking about a
much greater area and less people
populated less much less densely
populated over here than brooklyn so
over there
here because you're at the jersey shore
you get a beach i mean
john can you touch on the comparison of
why this year was more than than say
like yeah the comparison with north
jersey in 2018 yeah july july is july is
it you know it is hurricane season
officially but you know typically we
don't see hurricanes this time of year
they're just the severe uh
thunder lightning wind storms and it's
continuous you know july in new jersey
is is about as close to florida as
you're going to get it's going to rain
just about every day for a little while
what's this year's this year was a
heavier uh
well here i'm sure if you do a study
throughout the entire state the averages
you know it may be the same
but where we are you know this is where
we're getting hit with these lightning
storms uh more so in central than up in
north jersey it's it's just uh you know
the cycle i don't know a few years ago
it was just the opposite just the
opposite you know you just can't control
the weather can't control the weather if
we could you know i would i would pick a
day like this
if anybody can see from here
that's why we came we were told you guys
could control the weather but
and the gelato
and the gelato right right right
we're um
we're involved with it we're embedded in
the community right and you could say uh
you know i've been here in lakewood for
six years uh since i started with the
company my office is right here in
lakewood it's uh there's a learning
curve uh within the electric utility and
also within the communities that we have
you know for instance if you serve a
community like i do here in lakewood and
also serve one of let's say a shore
community in monmouth county uh there's
a vast difference in in everything right
equipment the the amount of people we
have how we serve um where where the
lines are there's quite a bit involved
so you have to have an intimate
knowledge of not just the your community
but the people
all right guys um what's a pleasure
meeting you and i'm really
thankful for