CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 67 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning, boys. We have a few more. Um, we're still we're still about a h 100,000 short, but we'll get we're getting there. We're very much on our way not to lose money. This year, we're going larger. It's a larger hotel and this and that. So, the expenses are higher. Bashem will cover it. If you take a katas bird and you put him on the bottom of the you put him on the top of the mak and you shuck him in the wrong way. Well, you take a bird and take him on the bottom and he shucked him in the wrong way. Says the what what what did he do wrong? Doesn't say that he shucked it in the wrong way. It says he changed it up a little bit. So we're talking about the takes the and he treats him like a by putting him on top and doing things to him like a shik. So we saw yesterday there's a big difference between the malik of and the malik of the is supposed to go through the two sim cut off its head so to speak. the malik of he's supposed to cut one simmon and baser we said that was the end of the gimra one sim and also the big chunk of meat over there name of the lake who so he took a and he brought it up and instead of instead of cutting one sim cut two but yesterday we learned that according to the son of says that it's fine you're allowed to do it and why does the sayd What do we say? >> Not necessary. >> It's not like the video. >> It's not necessary. It's like maybe it's not necessary to cover a pit, but it's not nec but you could. So, you're telling me it's not like you're he says you could cut both through both. So, what's the problem? You took a bird. You brought him up up up on top of the the the red line which we're going to see. You allow to do malik anywhere. You could go anywhere. And he did the malik like and he did two. No, it's perfect. He said it's just a recommendation. It's it's not necessary. But he could yesterday we already established if you look at the last words where was it here four lines down the whole it doesn't go like we already established that says okay it's not that he did the malik different it's that he did the different meaning he didn't do we're talking about now by the Hey, think about it for a second. It's it's a it's an interesting way to remember which carbon you do and which not. We have the and the where do you do? You do on top. What are you standing on? On a ledge that's this wide. It's one h means you sprinkle it from a distance. If you're up against the wall, there's no you can't sprinkle. You're not y to sprinkling. you have to take it back. Where do you take it back? When you're standing on the ground on the floor of the Mikdash. So that's only for So now he took a bird and brought it upstairs on the ledge and he didn't do cuz it makes sense. There's no over there and he skipped. He went straight to Mitsu. That passes it says we have easy here so we can fly through this. I'll prove it to you. says in regard continuing in regard to the again if he took this and he did it above their line and did all these different things even if he went out of his way and he thought that it's a and he said it's but he changed the what did he do it can't be that he changed to to the place you can do it anywhere. Okay. So, so you see from the in other words the next line over there is talking about so too we're talking about which is also about but it's before that. So the two cases are talking about it's a good no it's not a good who told you that that's a maybe one line of the mission is talking about the other line is talking about who told you that it's not it's not necessary to say that every single line of the mission is talking about the same case the same idea again we're going to go through the same thing again you took the bird and instead of sheffing him instead of taking care of business on top of the the red line you on the bottom of the and he changes it up says the Mishna apostle the shi what did he change he again bird he's supposed to cut through over here he decided to do one sim an animal that gets run over by a car has gives you so let's say you have a cow that got hit by a car or just died a natural death you touch it you become I'm coming. If you the cow and it's very dead, you touch it, you're not tummy. The removes the toma [clears throat] by a bird. If a bird gets run over by a car and you touch it, you do not become tummy. A kosher bird. You do not become tummy. But if you eat it and swallow it, you become tummy through the swallowing. >> If you do to it, it removes the toma. If you do malika to it in the mikdash, it's like removes the toma. If you do malik to it in your backyard, that's an you killed it. You murdered it. That's not a and then it would give you tuma. What about in the B mikdash you did a bird to this pigeon and then you messed up and you took this bird and you brought it on top of the and you didn't do a and you did mitsu. What just happened? You ruined it. Ple does this bird give off to at the end of the day you messed it up. You gave him Malika, but you you didn't you didn't you didn't finalize the four over there. Says says the Mishna in a second. I guess I'm going to have to explain it again. Explain it again. But says the Mishna. No, the Malik is good. It removes it to I don't care what you messed up afterwards. It says in a second. We're going to learn that's the what's all these mess ups in our Mishna. You took the put it on the bottom. You took the put on the top. You didn't do me. You didn't do this that it doesn't create tuma when you eat it. Why? Cuz you did malika name. This is really our whole today. This a fascinating as we're going to see until we get there sort of. It's going to take like a whole omit to understand what he's saying. But the bottom line of Yeshua is that if you take an he says a tremendous you take a bird what's a bird designated the owner says I want to bring anah a woman has to bring oil after she gives birth a bird she brings the bird and the client takes the bird instead of putting it on top of the red line he brings it on the bottom and he does everything like like a katas he thinks in his mind it's a katas and he does malika like a katas which means one simmon instead of says, "It flips into a you hear this unbelievable. You could take an designation and you force it out of its designation into it morphs into a why cuz you put it in the place. You treat it like a katas with your malika and you had kavana of a katus." If you tell me he did it with the malika that he changed the malika on the bird but Yeshua holds that you you it becomes a it's not there's not a problem if you change the malika on the bird as we're going to see in a second and everything goes likein in other words you you remove what does means that if you if a client uses it he doesn't have to bring a carb and he didn't do an aor why cuz it actually changed into when it changes into It's a kayak could use it. It's meant for a kayen to eat. So the malika is good, not bad. So we have to say, so what did he change up here? Again, he took a bird from the top and he put it on the bottom. It can't be that he changed up the malik because that would be perfect according to it's a good it's a good So so what did he do? He changed up instead of doing he he messed up the You take the bird and you bring it down below and you do it like a Yeah, that's we just mentioned turns into it's fine. There's no and over there. What did he change that he did as instead of that's what it means? Yeah, he did a instead of says this whole beautiful idea of morphing from into only when he changes one thing that he did one sim instead of two but not if he changed the the not if you don't do it doesn't flip into by not doing you'll see in the sugi later it doesn't make any sense if he changed up the it it should change to morph the the bird from Katas. So what did he change up here in the safe over here Malik? He changes malika the ratio. We said he changed up the malik the the mits the mitsa we said it's the mit the middle part and now we're saying they changed up malika. So what's the question? [clears throat] There's no um consistency. There's no Okay, whatever. >> It's not symmetric. That's the word I was looking. It's not symmetric. The we like to put the in one in one case. So the over here and this over here talking about different cases in you're right. It's not the end of the world. The different cases. Great. Okay, here we go. So, we just do now says all these cases even though you messed up on the you brought it on top of the red line and the you messed up, you brought it below the red line and you did whatever you did was a mitz difference, whatever you did, but the malik removes the toma from it. So even if it got ran over by a car and you ate it, not so if you did to all these birds even though later on the next step you messed up it removes the regular of and if you use without permission something that's owned by the mdash you're What happens when you're over you have to pay the B mikdash a fifth which in English is called 25%. Plus >> no no no I say this over and over and over 25%. Okay let's get it through. A fifth of the Tyra is 25% in English. I said in English what do we call it in America? 25% what the Tyra calls a fifth. We in Panovich call it 25%. It's the fifth of the final amount. Okay. If you do exactly the way you need to do, in other words, you did it in the right place below the red line. You had in other words, everything. So what happens when you have a you do everything, you remove the from it cuz now the could eat it. So it's it's there's no if he eats it. He's supposed to eat it. Tor says to eat it. So you can't you can't punish him for doing what he's what he did. In other words, if he did everything right, there's no only because even if you do everything right, it's still you have to burn the whole thing. How much of a do we burn on? How much? >> Zero. Zero. >> No, the night goes into the Oh, so here's the whole we discussed it once. We'll discuss it again. We'll discuss another 10 times today. You take the bird and instead of putting it above the red line, you did everything below the red line. You did everything like a says it's I don't care if you messed up. You messed up. You messed up. But it remains. How do you how you going to take and make it a non? It's too late. It's already designated. It's And therefore >> if you use it your you have to pay and this is it. That's the whole suga today. Most of it. Now what the holds? I'm cheating. I'm spoiling it. He holds that it it transfers from a into a Why? Because you took it and you put it below the red line where Katus belongs. Let me show you this. This is important. I'll show it to you in the beginning of the Why not? It'll ease up the sug three nos. These three things actually create a new type of carbon by changing its name by saying to yourself it's not changing its name you're doing you're saying I'm not bringing I'm bringing even though it is what going on the bottom instead of on the top where belongs is what >> cut cut do the wrong way instead of doing two of you did one so you have three things says at the end of the if you do these three things it transfers it from from so now we're going to have a back and forth here a very long back and forth and it's it's easy because it's the same idea over and over with a little bit of variation soar says the later on he didn't get what said he push didn't understand he didn't understand what he said and he says to to see he starts doing these these simple [snorts] if if you do a exactly like the way you're supposed to do it. We just learned that there's no it removes all the from the can eat it. [clears throat] However, when you add the which is moreish, let's say it's it's stronger. If you add it, you you mess up on that's the first. Yeah. First only and if you mess up and you say this is not this is an throw it into the garbage right away. If you mess up in the of the only ifa is the reverse if you thought that it's you don't have to throw into the garbage but so if you take and you change it into you did not remove the still that's an which is weaker why is weaker because you have the ability to remove the from it if you do it the right way which you can never remove the from it it's impossible because the whole thing goes on. So if you change it from how could you say that it changes into it doesn't change at all. The relationship remain what are you talking about? What you just said doesn't make any sense. Why? Because you give me a case when you took a and you went up to Okay, very good. So yeah, that's why this cuz you took it and you went higher up. But if you take go downwards in you went from something that has to have me why shouldn't they change realize there still doesn't understand? So it keeps on going. Where do we all in the north? You shed it in the wrong place in the south. But you had a trick. You took a a shame and you decided it's not a asham. It's going to be a schlam. >> You try to switch it from a kachi kachim to kachum. Why? cuz your place is bad. Oh, so think about it. Look at this. What do you have here from this list? You have two things that went wrong. You have and you you changed the and you changed it from the north to the south, but you don't have >> the trifecta. Is that the word? >> You don't have the shin. You don't have the shin. So again, is not coping yet. He's he's he's poking. He's he's trying to figure it out. He went to still shouldn't have changed it by that took you made. So by your case that you took you went down the stairs and made it in how could it change in this should still be There's a little bit of over there. It's you changed it, but it's still there some just one thing here. When a when a when it goes from there's not a single part of this bird that a coin can't eat. The whole thing is for the whereas before the case of there's still going to be something is there. So the continues the the argument continues okay continue. It's the same idea wake up it's galdic which is which was in the right place but he had what what what did he do wrong here he changed the the designation instead of it was there is so so you you change the name from still there should be. So go back to this chart over here. At the end of the day, we need these three things in order to flip it from you need three things. So says he didn't he didn't there's no we just said he where he in the north that's where he's supposed to is like being stingy here he's like not giving him the full thing he didn't tell him you need all three there's two things two things that went wrong in my case there was I went from and I went from above the the to below Oh, okay. Fine. So, let me try another case. If you take that that exact case I just told you which was at the end of the I take a but I shut it in the wrong place. So now I have instead of and I did instead of how come in your case you dropped the it changes designation from oh finally he tells him he says over here we have Three things going wrong. You took and you made you call them. In your mind, you're doing a you went from above the red line, you went to below the red line. Instead of cutting to cut one, how come did all three things and that was it? Didn't say anything. And and they bring in that says he's quiet. Even if you don't add that, why was he quiet? So let's do it again. What's that? You went from what's that? What's that? Says by changing you have to say that. Yeah. Otherwise, what is he asking? But Rashi says that going for different ownership saying you gave me the animal for you. Too bad. I'm giving it to so and so to do that. He says, "How come didn't answer this this thing?" He understood. He went down to the bottom of it. He finally [clears throat] got what meant there. You need three things. Here we go. which belongs above the red line which is what is what? No means he did the he only cut one thing. This is this is confusing because it's different than my list is what what we would call. So here's the trick. You only cut one simmon instead of two. So it morphs. So why don't we do the flip? Take a below the red line. Bring him above the red line. So what do you have? Oh shinoi. And instead of you call him it's a Hashem. And instead of cutting one, you cut two and that's a shinoi. And he shall flip into a you say you're right says there's a person who spoke to maybe this is the way it's arranged there's only maybe it means that there's only one way to do it. You go from a top from it changes into but not the reverse. If you go from now so according to to the now you go both directions. If you take and do everything the wrong way by the place and he turns into now the say something about no it only goes in one way. Why? Take a look at this. It's unbelievable. Now, once you hear what he says, it's so posh that it doesn't work in both directions. Take a look. You took a you have to cut two sim. And what did he do? He only cut one. So, look what happens. He cut one. So, it turns into at that point. Very good. But look what happens when you do the same thing to you take a and you want to make it you want to flip it into an so what happened take a look you one sim you did malik one sim but while you did that one sim you had in mind that it's an not a what does the first say that if you have a and you think in your mind that it's not a it's an it becomes possible so over here once he went through once Simmon and he thought in in his mind that it's anah take it and throw into the garbage. No, but you want to continue and do malik to the second simmon and say oh I turned it into it's too it's too late. There's a millisecond in between that it flipped into a bad bird into apostle bird into garbage and he didn't even get to the second sinner yet >> there. Now he went v he went v he did a he he tried to put the strip on. It's going to fall down to the ground. You saw >> again at this point it's possible. So don't don't tell me oh uh he's on top and he had and I want to I want to do a second sim and he should turn to he can't turn into he's already let's see it inside. He did all three things wrong with one. All you need is one sim to cut and baser. Fine. He's already coaching wants him and he invited you to at the end of the day you cannot do below the red line when when you did one simmon becomes >> no it becomes before it became possible I'm talking about on the bottom when you take the you put on the bottom so before it even became by doing one sim that's all you need to do by it flipped into the oh why how can you tell me the reverse is good what you took bird from the bottom and you brought it on top and you try to like you do it any time every point of top bottom as soon as he did one simmon it became puzzle So, how you going to make something that's puzzle into this puzzle is finished? It's done. So, this we did five times. So, I'm going to read it quick. You took from the top on the bottom. It turns and morphs into the whole is about the worst case scenario. I [snorts] want it's a riddle. The whole is a riddle. How is it's a mathematic riddle and it's very it's simple math first grade level math. What happened was you have two women. When a woman gives birth, one woman, she gives birth, she has to bring an animal for the and a bird for I think. Yeah. She brings one bird, one animal. >> No, no, no. Typically now if she doesn't have money two birds. So we're talking about a woman that doesn't have money. Two birds. One is one is by the way there's two types of birds you can bring. You cannot mix the two birds. So you bring pigeons. You bring two pigeons. You're bringing you bring similar doves. So Rahul brought anah. So I remember in my mind Raul she was the first one that's supposed to marry a Rahul. She's sad. She brings the Leia brings the So now what does Rahul owe? She brought already an she owes a what does Leia owe an So they went to the store and with one swipe of the credit card they bought two birds a for and they brought it to the Cayenne. Now the Cayenne messed up. What's the worst thing he could do to mess up? And after he messes up, how many birds he have to bring? So he brings now and the way he did it is that you see how there's a blue halo around that represents Leia. The pink represents Rahul. Okay. So he brought he put now what if he if they if he shed it both on top of the red line, this is so simple. He shove it both on top of the red line as an oil. What happens? One is coach and one is not good. >> The katus is no good. Goes along. What if you put both of them below the red line? The reverse happens. The is not supposed to be there. What if what if he doesn't know which one is what and he did one on top, one on the bottom. What's the worst case scenario that he put the on top and the on the bottom? Both are apostle. 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