CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 90 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> I go to say I don't understand even one person two people better than none boys I were holding by the mission of Sadiq Muhammad Ali random Sugo is going to be the found like easy stuff today. call me Shiva Migdal for you Migdal shoes I'm going to yell at Yossi for putting a white background with flour in the clay. But other than that it's beautiful. >> [clears throat] >> This is God us. It's piled up. This is not this is my hook. Every all the measuring all the measuring devices in the base of Migdal you pile them up call me the Shiva Migdal for you Migdal shoes that of the God all which we discussed the starts off in the morning with one he divides it in half and he gives half of his heart in the morning half in the evening. That is flat and now we explain this is a number of reasons cuz he's walking with it. You don't want it to spill over it's hard to to divide in half. Okay. Neither Salah Beirut same neither say Beirut same oil. They would say him is the overflow. The overflow so this thing why not? This that who this is great class. Let me finish this up maybe. What Michelle Michelle Beirut same Beirut same going to see this three sheets of here in the very similar in a way. Slightly or each one is slightly different neither Salah Beirut same the the measuring devices of the liquid is called which are being put oil is my this clay so it has to show me this I always if you're trying to measure for flour those measuring cups did not have to show. What's the difference? As we'll see because if it has to show so everything that above it also has to show in a way we have to explain why but if it doesn't have to show so everything above does not have to show that's why piled up flour doesn't have to show piled up wine doesn't have to show. I will give my Salah College the Beirut same College. What's he adding here? Neither say I always have to go Beirut same oil. So he argues [clears throat] with the camera. We'll see in the camera exactly how and where we also I don't this makes a lot of sense if you think about it. How in the world and I have I'm just having trouble in the whole understanding how exactly you're going to deal with this Beirut but how did it get there? How did it overflow? You poured wine because you're pouring wine and it becomes like this so what stays on top exactly is the the stuff you just poured now to me it makes sense the stuff you just poured goes to the bottom pushes up the bottom and then it becomes the top. The stuff that you're pouring on top it's not a solid it's a liquid liquid usually drops down and pushes the rest up. Big enough to mean it because the rest I got pushed up was already inside the clay it's inside the clay it has to show and now popped up on top okay this is very common. If you're taking a bottle of Castel and you poured up to here and then you pour a little bit more and it goes like this so if it doesn't go into the clay I can hear but that's if it's flour so yeah the new stuff that goes on top never went inside the clay but when it comes to liquid usually gets all mixed in and it's all like how are you dealing with this Beirut my mom doesn't understand this. I'm having trouble here but okay but that's what he's saying that's good for what he's saying. I will say I will say nothing like the liquid gets uploaded from the bottom goes to the top. >> [cough and clears throat] >> But the dry does not. So there's more first we have to deal with this the good over here beginning of the mission the first one is the mission call me the Shiva Migdal all the measurements how many measurements were there many here in mayor according to the mayor there wasn't more than one it says all the good 20 of them there's only one it's either a he says there's two or one is only one but according to the mayor there's two one is a flat one is a fold slightly lower than the flat one but it's but there's only one that goes above the rim and that's only one so what do you mean call me this? You are born there's only one measurement period for the flour and it was it was a flat one it wasn't even a a heaped one. This is the the answer that you're all thinking well it's the mayor who says there's there's one heaped one and one flat one. What might call me this what what is the mission mean by all the measurements call me the dice doesn't mean that there's 10 different camera in the base of Migdal it means 10 different measurements that I I use this one clay this one is I use even if I need three of flour I use the one is measuring I I do three times one there's not three different five different measurements is that a a clay that holds three a clay that holds two a clay that holds one. It's one clay that holds one and it and it's one that you overload. But it contains call me the dice all the room of the base of Migdal sometimes when you need to three of them you use that clay as well. And >> [clears throat] >> now we're going to explain all three sheets of the mission. Neither Salah Beirut same Michael where's the camera neither Salah Beirut same Beirut same oil. What are being given to show to the clay on the inside and on the outside. Put oil remember how you put the oil came in key. You do a a C a U a a test a X we had a lot of sheets of how many sheets of like seven I don't remember the kids are coming key in other words you don't have to paint the whole thing you just go like this on the outside. You do like a a U on the inside and Israel. So in May long this clay has the good to show on the inside and the outside and then what oh so this is very important. So this the problem is this right over here. Does the rim is this what is that what it's called in English? The rim. Does this have if it does so when the wine piles up and touches this it gets from it. Neither I always have to go Beirut same Beirut same oil. And the dry good one the one for the flour only had inside and not outside that's why the overflow is not good. I will give argues and he says that the dry good one doesn't have any whatsoever. Let me ask you a question if this cup has zero and if you fill it up with flour how is the flour going to become good? The answer is Russia says with my mouth you're right the clay doesn't give it any but my mouth does I say it should become good. I will see the third sheet is in the video Beirut same Beirut same both the dry and even the liquid and it does not have on the outside. The time the only thing that he explains the reason why the Beirut same of the of the liquid become why is the overflow because it comes from the inside already had the good to show when it was inside the cup and then it popped out so remains good. I always have to go and dry goods like flour stays on the top and you as you pour it that's where it stays it doesn't go down and up. So what if this wine was on the bottom of the cup and came up and is now above got to be but where is the the dots of the owner? The guy had on a to give to whatever is in the cup not what's above the cup so so what if it started in the bottom and came to the top. But the fact is he only said it should be whatever is remains in the cup. I don't wish me the yeah it's interesting lately we had a bunch of one time names this is one more time in surely he says the name of the owner I don't need the the the dots of the owner I don't need his it becomes good. Just by being in the in the in the even on the bottom now it's on the top but it was on the bottom once and that itself gives to show. I don't know the shots perhaps you could say the shots is the doesn't have any and only to show when you have the right mindset. And therefore the fact is the top wine should not be good. I'm just concerned that people will say look here you had wine in a good us. And you just made it not good. I have to be I have to make it good. And say that what that it's good. The question is Moise and Reb Zaira have very similar thing. See there's a lot of music Shabbos. Look at this. So this is the famous Shulchan. Oops. And oh Let's do it again cuz the other missed it on the on the other one. On the real one. 12 upon them. When do we put it on on the Shulchan on Shabbos? When do you get to eat it on Shabbos? Interesting situation happens. What happens if you forget to put the bread on Shabbos for whatever reason you can't there's no bread available you put it on Sunday. We know listen to this. A carbon if it stays overnight is possible. Why is it possible? Lino. Overnight is possible Lino. How come the upon it is not possible Lino? Because it goes from Shabbos to Shabbos. So it can't be possible after one day after two days. But what happens if it's on listen to this it's tricky. Not tricky it's a smart guy. What happens if the bread is on the table for eight days from Sunday to Monday? From Sunday to Sunday eight days. Lino not Lino? The answer is no Lino. Why? Cuz it needs to be on the table for two Shabbos. When does this bread start becoming Lino? After the second Shabbos. 13 days later. So says the Gamara if that's the case see there's a lot of music Shabbos you put it on the table on Sunday there's a lot of music Shabbos and then six days later on Shabbos you put the Levina the two spoonfuls of Levina fragrances on the Mizbayach too large possible. Kisses yes what should you do that it shouldn't be Lino? You have to have Shabbos at all. Wait for the second Shabbos. 13 days later. Shafi also and we got there's no Lino if the bread is on the table for many days. Mama why? Also Reb Zaira also Reb Zaira Reb Zaira is people are going to going to say that all you need to do oh look over here it didn't become Lino because it was on the Shulchan. So if I want to take a carbon and save it from becoming possible overnight I just put it in a nice clee that has Gidusha and it won't become possible Lino. I should make a zero that should be possible Lino. Says Gamara Reb Zaira Reb love You're talking about upon him that nobody sees nobody knows about nobody's going to say anything. Those who know know better than to ask questions. But in in over here if you say Yeah over here people get confused and say that you can just take off the wine from the top and and make it um or from from within a clee and make it not college. So we have to make a zero. Not awesome. Moise and Reb Zaira the case of Mizbayach. What is Moise and Reb Zaira? That we're going to have a a little it's almost the same little child what is Moise and Reb Zaira? In other words I'll just throw out something. When you have extra Reb Zaira extra of these a mincha cuz those people who sell stuff to the base of Mizbayach they have to sell always with a little extra. I think even uh store owners when when you when you sell like a pound of something they have to add a little tiny drop. Especially certainly when they sell to the base of Mizbayach. You got to be careful with the base of Mizbayach you can't rip off the base of Mizbayach you have to add a little. So what do you do with the extras? That's one way of looking at the extras. It goes to the case of Mizbayach. What's case of Mizbayach? The desert of the Mizbayach. The case is also lotion of of of dry figs. When the Mizbayach has a down period there's no carbons so you grab an animal from within the base of Mizbayach that was donated for the case of Mizbayach and you put it on the Mizbayach. So my Moise and Reb Zaira what is this Moise? What what are that goes to the case of Mizbayach? Two shots. Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira this extra stuff that we saw on the top oh here beautiful. I didn't have to play the whole video. The what goes above the rim. Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira Reb Zaira Reb Zaira says no it's momish what we learned the famous Gamara the topic salt is marba. He gave the base of Mizbayach a cheap price. The Reb Zaira and they went to they they they got more expensive. You stopping marba he has to provide the base of Mizbayach with the cheaper price. In other words buy the bottom line is the base of Mizbayach always wins. In all disputes base of Mizbayach wins. Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira The guy said I'll I'll I'll provide this is momish you. Yeah? This is shown base of Mizbayach comes to provide meat Reb Zaira Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira The kids are if the guy said I'm going to provide the base of Mizbayach I want to be the meat provider I want to be the provider of a flower and oil and all the stuff uh flower. So I'm going to the price is very high I'm I'm providing that then the price dropped so you have to give the base of Mizbayach the the new price. It's not without getting into it just our regular house the base of Mizbayach has a special thing that it could acquire things with money. Jews cannot buy with money they need a kinyan. They do halipin they have to do agba they have to do a kinyan. Base of Mizbayach could do like a guy the kind of a casa. But only when it's worth it for him. If money's not good for it cuz they they made a up market on a higher price and the price dropped. So the base of Mizbayach goes back to the lower price. You don't want this base of Mizbayach. Actually you do cuz it's close but you're always base of Mizbayach you know going in that no matter what you you have to give in to the base of Mizbayach. Reb Zaira the the the the heck is always wins. Okay so Reb Zaira says Reb Zaira this is the shot of Moise and Reb Zaira. How did we get extra because I provided the base of Mizbayach more than it needed. So now that I have extra why did I provide more than it needed? Cuz we made up one price and they got the better deal. It's not the shot like you said before it's that extra wine on the top blah blah blah. It's a big deal that they made with a with a with the wholesaler and they got more more product. So what do you do with it? You sell it and you buy carbons for case of Mizbayach. Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira I have a right to both. Reb Zaira Reb love Reb Zaira Reb love you could be or if you have another carbon you should give it to the other carbon. Reb love but if it was stayed overnight it's possible Lino they're possible. Reb love if it didn't go overnight Reb Zaira Reb love if you don't have another carbon you have another carbon and it didn't stay overnight so you put it on the Mizbayach. In other words what how do you put it on the Mizbayach? You can't put wine on the Mizbayach as case of Mizbayach you need a oil. So you sell the wine. Anybody want a smart vertical wine? And then you put it on the case of mouth. What do you do? Yeah I just explained but we know. What do you do with this money that you get from selling the wine and you buy an animal? What is it? Oil. You have to you make oil out of it. And what do you do with an oil? Like you always do with an oil. Have a bottle of shame bars to come on I would think it's a little different because over here it's coming from the money of the base of Mizbayach maybe the shouldn't share in it at all. No the get the the hides why not? Reb Zaira and I have a right to So anyways I could put it you see over here that we're talking about like he said uh Reb what is it? that we're talking about the wine that goes above the rim. Now what was Reb Zaira's shot? Reb Zaira's shot was that the base of Mizbayach got a better deal than they thought so they have extra. Reb Zaira Reb love He accepted himself to provide the base of Mizbayach in a in a cheap price and the price went up. Reb Zaira he provided he said he's going to provide them with the higher price and the price dropped. Reb Zaira Reb Zaira Reb love and this is what we learned Moise and This is the shot of Moise and not the the wine that goes above the rim but the extra product that the base of Mizbayach gets and that goes you sell it and that goes to buy a oil when there's a down time on the Mizbayach. Says the Gamara momish easy stuff Reb Zaira So I made a little list there. I think this will make it slightly easier. This is the famous list that I always use for Reb Zaira Just what's funny about this list at least in my mind is that there's five x's and five checks. In other words the the x means these carbons do not have Reb Zaira that come with it. You don't bring any flower oil nothing just as is. And the ones that have a nice check green check yeah they do it. The lotion of the mission to me is a little interesting. All carbons need Reb Zaira. Besides five of them. There's 10. And besides half of them not. So it's funny lotion. But maybe the shot is we'll see in a second. Reb Zaira So there's three on the left side and on top one is yes and one is a no. and two from the right. Total of five not. there are two the the there is a that yes and there's a that yes. There's a Reb Zaira of the Reb Zaira and the of the that that that you have to bring a like like we know here. This guy is is carrying with him flower and oil, together with his other notions. What Are both of What was going on? Not this. Not this. How come only one of them is red? Other notions. Both of them should be red. Okay, fine. Put it on the bottom. Oh, so let me show you this and this will explain the whole thing in 10 seconds. Makes the easier in my opinion. It's just that I'm not an artist and I didn't separate the lines perfectly, but you you'll be able to read it with that. It says in So, red is a negative. Green is a positive. Negative means no car. And green means yes car. It has to be a new car. It has to be a carbon. Meaning if you're going to bring a new car, it means sometimes you bring a new car as a stand-alone. Just a new car. The new car doesn't require a new car. Do not bring a new car with the new car. But I from the word I, if you bring a tiger, you have to bring You have to bring a new car together with it. Zebra, a lion, you have to bring with it. The following there is a What's a zebra? A master, a tiger, a zebra, a lion. These five things all You must bring. You know, it's not up to you. You didn't decide to bring it. You had to bring it cuz it's your the first born. It's a tiger. It's a lion. You did it at the zebra. And finally, the Maya Day is what we just had now on tiger. When you come to the you have to bring three carbons. You guys know what they are? You want to try to guess? Probably tiger. No. Not Not No. No. No. Extra. What? What? I don't know. And right? And there's one more that this tricky. Show me Simba. Means this is Dino ribs. It's time to eat to have a good time. So, you bring for tiger three carbons. Three of them you have to bring cuz I saw I came to see the English. You have the show me You have to bring on on the on the 15th day of of of Nissan on every And also show me Simba drink wine. So, let's see inside. Put it on the show me show me show me. You have to maybe everything that goes on to the bear. Requires a new car. A feeling new car. Meaning a new car should require a new car. If you bring a new car by itself You say to I want to bring you a little flower, some oil. So, maybe you have to bring flower and oil with it. I don't know. I don't know. Only a carbon. Not a new car. Show me how do I know show me zebra? Show me how do I know tiger? Show me I don't know. The I. So, that's why you see on the screen it says on top of the I there's a tiger. On top of the zebra there's a lion. You also have to bring a car, master, tiger, zebra, lion. Maybe I should say those five things master, tiger, zebra, lion should need a new car. Show me how do I know the following there is a comes willingly cuz I gave it a tiger. I gave it a lion. Okay. So, only when it comes willingly a lion and a tiger. I don't know. Maybe things that come because you have to on my menu. What are they? I don't know. Zebra and show me tiger. These are the two that you guys said. The When you come to the tiger and show me But there's another one. Show me Simba. Show me tiger. I don't know. You know this guy? I don't know. Show me tiger and the other stuff. Now, what you have to bring uh a new car with it. Call above him. I don't know. I don't know. Obviously you have to us. There's another one. The car that's on the show. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It was together already. It was mixing with everything else. All the carbons. Why Why did the tiger specify tiger? I don't know. It comes because you want to. I call the other Oh, the other But anything else like a field that that comes by itself then you're not. Like say the car that's on the show. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's the last part of what I have over here on the screen. This one. The fish and the other animals. Any animal. So, there's a of an animal. There's a of a bird. No. I don't know. Tiger and the other stuff has to be either from the cattle or from sheep and not a bird. The That's why I wrote the I don't I don't know. The other animals. It's not included in something that you show. You do a bird. It's not a zebra. Okay. I don't know. Why do I need the chicken? I don't know. It's not to exclude a bird. The fish and the other animals. I don't know. I don't know. If a person just says I'm bringing a You have to bring one cow and one sheep. I don't know. That's why it says in the I don't know. What maybe? What maybe? It's up to you. I saw that they asked how can you bring two? It's a zebra. If it could be one, how could it be two? You know how to bring one extra? It's a zebra. Okay. The I don't know. I think the I don't know. Um I understood it to differently, but he asks it. So, it's obviously it's a good question. I don't know. I don't know. Why would I even have a Why would I have a that means if a person makes another, he means two things. Sheep and cattle. Look. The famous book. He is called a zebra and a lion. Does anybody have a that there is actually a debate? Maybe have to curse both the father and the mother in order to be in order to get to English. She says no. Can't be. Why? Because it says in the We say if you show me a zebra, without the word zebra, I would think maybe you know how to play with the ball. Zebra means both of them together. So, since by a father and mother doesn't say zebra, so it means either or. One or the other. So, according to it doesn't say the word zebra. So, why would I have a I have to bring both a bull and a sheep? It's either or. I don't know. Tomorrow it's a I don't know how you'll receive a lion. Here. Right over here. See this? All of them is possible. It says a lion. Talking about the actual valve. So, the valve Oh. We have It's very important to remember this. What does the valve do? He meant to say the other It's as if he meant both. So, the other the other I don't know. The other I don't know. If you hold that you don't need the word zebra, it's as if it says zebra. So, I don't know. I need I need a positive to tell me that you don't need both. Because it says it's as if it says zebra. As if it says I need both. So, now what am I going to do? I need a positive that says I can't learn from the book. A book or but not a bird. I need the positive to tell me that I don't need both. One or the other. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. This is two different The book is in my book or that's A. The book or So, that splits it. So, maybe from the word book or I learned a not a bird. I don't know. That's only if it says before it's one or the other. But if he says I'm bringing a Maybe you have to bring one sheep, one bull. I don't know. The book says no. Only one or the other. I don't know. Have a good book. A good summer. We'll see you again. After summer holiday. >> [music] >> Merit this course of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a sheer today. Mdy.sponsor.com [music] or sponsor.mdy.com.