CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 83 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> A good enough Pesach boys I ah. We're holding on the bottom of K days on the base. The Gamorah asked the question, how do you know that a carbon Pesach that you must shecht you have to you don't have a choice. You cannot buy it with my sushini money you must buy it with your own money. So Gamorah brings this whole possuk. I'll remind them just I'm not going to show you the whole thing but just uh That's the possuk the famous possuk that we're going to sing tomorrow in shul. >> [music] >> So the Gamorah says this possuk. This possuk teaches us every word hatoyda sorry what's the words? Every word comes to teach you something. And we're going to see there are the Kiva finally it's a very long answer but meanwhile go through very easy stuff. We're going to get all the way at the end. In about 20 lines from now we're going to see where the Kiva learns this Yisod. Mincha so now we're holding at the word Mincha. What do we learn from Mincha? Three lines from the bottom. A Mincha can only be eaten by male Kohanim. This is in the possuk also zachar bnei aronim it's talking about a Mincha. Only a zachar are from a Kohain. Of kol in a Kohain el zachar Kohain so to all the other things only a Kohain and a zachar. Now what does that mean? With the are we know there are many korbanos that women can eat that Yisraelim can eat. Non Kohanim mahi Mincha ma Mincha in a Kohain of kol in a Kohain zachar mahi what carbon are we talking about? Echat b'oshom we're talking about a regular chatos and an oshom. The head makes it. Where? In this week's parsha you know a lot of uh here Vayikra perek vov which is the parsha we just read kol zachar b'Kohanim yochal oisa again it's talking about a chatos. We know that a chatos which is kodesh kodashim that a woman can eat a Yisrael cannot eat. This is my first in the possuk. Eizevchei shlomei tzibur. What's a zivchei shlomei tzibur? Zivchei shlomei tzibur are the two korbanos that we bring on Shavuos. The shlomei that we bring in Shavuos together with the two breads. Meir Boyed Kriyos that we learn from a limud that what it says in the possuk b'kodesh kodashim yochal oisa kol zachar yochal oisa meimeda zivchei shlomei tzibur she nechalim teaches us the shlomei tzibur is only eaten by el zachar Kohain. So Gamorah says ha why why do I need a possuk Mincha to teach us this? I'm already learning it from other psukim. Chatos oshom other psukim. So Gamorah you're right. Tano yi This is machlokes tanoim what possuk to learn from. Eka d'meis l'machah some people learn from this possuk that we just said from the kodesh kodashim chatos uh yeah the psukim we just read kodesh kodashim. Eka d'meis l'machah and some people learn from our possuk from the Mincha. Great. Chatos we continue with this possuk. V'la chatos v'la oshom v'la miluim chatos what do you do with the word chatos? It's extra why is it extra? No I I'll just go repeat because the we every carbon the Torah says zo is Torahs a chatos zo is Torahs a oshom zo is Torahs a Mincha. So now why does the Torah take a whole possuk and and talk about all the korbanos? Each one comes to teach us a new chiddush. Chatos machatos kachuv b'v'luah it absorbs of kol kachuv b'v'luah becomes kodesh through absorbing. Oshom what do we learn with the word oshom? A oshom is a male. So just like the the fetus of the male of the oshom doesn't become kodesh. Why doesn't the a male's fetus become kodesh? Because it's impossible. It can't have a fetus. I was going to say something because I'm in America but I'm going to control myself right now. A male cannot have children. So therefore it's fetus and it's amniotic sac the the the arshul calls it. The shil the the shafir the shil yo they don't have kedusha why? Because they don't exist and the Gamorah is going to say so if it's impossible how are you going to teach something else to a female that's possible? So that's called what we had the other day donim efshar m'she e efshar it's impossible it's just a technical difficulty. Of kol so we learn from here in shafir v'shil yo kodesh by everything else the the the the fetus doesn't have kedusha. Now we have to understand because we know that fetuses usually are like the mother they do have kedusha. Why? Kol savain blood is kodashim b'vei asom hein kodashim. Number one he holds that a fetus doesn't become kodesh in the mother's stomach at all. When does it become kodesh? When it's born. B'donim efshar m'she e efshar we can learn other korbanos from a oshom that's impossible for a oshom to become pregnant. Nevertheless hey the oshom's baby it's fetus never has kedusha. So why? Okay because it's impossible. B'l'maisa its baby can become its fetus can become kodesh so to all other korbanos its fetus cannot become kodesh. End of that sugia new sugia. We're doing like bunny slopes here now. Manners greens miluim what do we do with the word miluim? Just to remind the oilam miluim is the seven days inauguration which Rabbeinu brought korbanos this is this is nazir and but I think the continuation is miluim. He moves away the nasim brought only for seven days it's a one time thing. Any [clears throat] meat in the siman for the possuk any meat that's left over must be burned. The ein b'al chaim my shlomei b'sreifa let's say they brought extra carbon as a backup as a chryis you don't burn that live animal. Of kol my shlomei b'sreifa any time you bring in a chryis you bring an extra animal as a backup. Or let's say we had the other day that a fetus that was born is considered moiser it's considered extra considered addition. So if there's meat you burn the ein b'al chaim my shlomei b'sreifa uh sorry of kol my shlomei b'sreifa v'ein b'al chaim yeah my shlomei b'sreifa. If it's alive you don't burn shlomei. It says in the in the possuk the word shlomei what do I do with the word shlomei? Ma shlomei by the way we're still in the middle of a question. What's the question? Where does Rebbi Akiva know that a carbon Pesach he must pay with your own cash you can't use maaser sheini money. We're getting there. Shlomei what do I do with the word shlomei? Ma shlomei m'faglim u'm'spaglim we know the halacha of pigul means that when a the Kohain shechts the animal in the Beis Hamikdash and he thinks to himself I'm going to eat the shlomei instead of two days I'm going to eat it for three days from now four days from now a month from now that makes it pigul and if he in fact eats it he's chayiv kareis if he doesn't eat it means over it is u'm'spaglim that causes the wine we know that shlomei and oila come with wine and they come with flour you can be m'fagel the wine. I'm sorry no cup today. Of kol m'faglim u'm'spaglim made a brocha before. D'maisa z'donam m'shmei Rebbi Akiva so to every other carbon you can do when the Kohain does pigul it also makes the wine the pigul right? Because he's thinking the Kohain is thinking about this animal he's not thinking about the he's thinking about this and not about this the wine. Oh no I have real wine. The wine. But when I have a kavana on this I'm going to eat this in three days from now instead of in two days from now this becomes ossur also. That's the chiddush. Great. Of kol m'faglim u'm'spaglim d'maisa z'donam m'shmei Rebbi Akiva ah finally. They say in the name of Rebbi Akiva zo is haTorah. The same possuk using the same possuk again. But we learned from Mincha something else before. What do we learn from Mincha we started off the shiur? That it has to be zachar Kohain. He's learning something else Mincha ma Mincha kachuv b'v'luah he's doing the the b'v'luah thing that a Mincha absorbs from another from another another carbon. So whatever that carbon is it becomes of kol kachuv b'v'luah so to other korbanos also absorb if they touch each other they become kodesh like the other one you limit the days etc. The kedusha tumah ze yochal michtam b'chatos ze yochal michtam b'Mincha have to teach it in two places chatos and a Mincha. Because of the Mincha m'shum Rebbi Akiva b'v'luah a Mincha the flour is soft it absorbs. Avo chatos u'm'loi but maybe meat tough meat before you before you make it a steak it's tough maybe it shouldn't absorb and it shouldn't have the halachos of the other things because of chatos m'shum the basar agav d'shumin kadeir maybe if a kared meat has it's oily so that's why it absorbs it goes in deep. Avo Mincha u'm'loi maybe flour not shrei chani bolna. Chatos. And finally after learning yesterday and after learning a bunch of minutes today 15 minutes into the sheer, here we get to the point. This line right over here. What I do with the word hadas according to Rebbi Akiva? Mach hadas in a ball elo mena chulei and just like a hadas, you can only purchase it from your own money and not from ma'aser sheini money. Uviyod And that's it. So, that's it. Now I know that a korban Pesach, I must purchase with your own private money. That's it. This is where Rebbi Akiva learns it. The Gemara continues. Uviyom and a hadas you can only shacht during the day not at night. Uviyod Hayeminus and you have to use your right hand not your left. Af kol every other korban in a bottom mena chulen, you can only buy other korbanos like a korban Pesach, you have to buy it with your own personal money. Uviyom and you shacht it during the day Uviyod Hayeminus. Bechadas guvernin and how do I know that a hadas you can't use ma'aser sheini money? Omar Rebbi Yishmael Rebbi Akiva Aaron is par hadas shel loy, loy mishaloy veloy mishama'aser. It has own and not from ma'aser sheini money. As the Gemara, you're telling me that you learn from here that you have to shacht the korban hadas during the day biyom. Miyom tzevoisa nafka There's another pasuk that teaches that you have to learn you have to do it during the day. Says Gemara, you're right. Kadina Azva. I just said it for the fun of it. For no good reason. The real source that you have to shacht the korban hadas during the day is from biyom tzevoisa. The Gemara just threw it in. You know, we have a whole thing here. You have to buy with your own money, you have to do it during the day and with your right hand. In In fact, the right hand is also for fun. Biyod Hayeminus Biyod Hayeminus, I don't learn it from this pasuk like Rebbi Rebbi Chanina that you have to use your right hand. Omar Rebbi Rebbi Chanina Rebbi Kol Makom She'amar Etzba o Kohuna anytime the Torah says the word Etzba o Kohuna, Ein Ela Yamin. We had a whole discussion over there. Etzba o Kohuna etc. But, we have another pasuk source that you have to do with your right hand. Kadina Azva. The Gemara over here just threw it in Derach Aga, but it's not the real source by us. The real source is over there that it says Etzba. Asham. What I do with the word Asham? Now we're continuing. Ma'asham Atzmoisam Tarim. The bones of the Asham the korban Asham which is very similar to the hadas. It's Kodesh Kodashim. Kotzei Kotzim. The bones are mutar you let it's chulen. Af kol Atzmoisam Tarim you let it use bones of other korbanos. Now the Gemara says Rebbi Akiva learns from Zevach Pesach. The other Tanna learns from Zevach Pesach that you must purchase the korban I can't believe that we're talking about a korban Pesach. At 3:00 in the afternoon where Klal Yisrael in the Beis Hamikdash is doing the korban Pesach and we're talking about a korban Pesach in that fiyumi. But anyways, what does Rebbi Akiva do with the pasuk that they learn that you have to buy with your own money when he learns it already from the word hadas? Well, what is it? Says the Gemara Piguil Ba'is. So, what does he do with this pasuk that they learn that you have to buy a korban Pesach from your own money? Oh, Rebboisei, what do I do with leftover korban Pesach? Now there's three types of leftover korban Pesach. There's a korban Pesach that's like a year after Pesach. You missed Pesach and the animal just became 2 years old. It had a 2-year-old birthday. So, it has two things going against it. So, what do you do with it? It becomes a shlamim. There's another one. It's after Pesach, but the animal's still a year old. It's within its first year. So, you could use it as a korban Pesach technically if it was Pesach. That's also shlamim. And then there's another one. It's 2 days before Pesach and you shacht your korban Pesach. What happens to it? It's not a korban Pesach, it's too early. So, it also becomes a shlamim. So, we're going to see three psukim here. And that's it pretty much. Yeah. Minayin Zevach Pesach shel korban shlamim? How do I know that let's say But this is something else. Let's say you brought a second korban Pesach. You're nervous that something's going to happen to your first one. So, and again or 15 people on YouTube. Nishlacht Rebboisei Nishlacht Rebbi Pesach instead of Haro'isos that are on YouTube. Or maybe during like they're broiling this ro'eh and they're watching and give all of it. The case is as follows. Your korban Pesach ran away and you got another korban Pesach and then the other one showed up. So, now you have an extra one. It's mo'isar. It's the extra one. How do you know she korban shlamim? How do you know that you could shacht it as a shlamim? So, that we saw in in Pesachim and throughout Shas you see the idea that a korban Pesach transfers into a shlamim eventually if you don't use it. Shlamim Zevach Pesach shel tzo'in u bakar. That's what Rebbi Akiva does with this pasuk. I learn that it turns into What's tzo'in u bakar? We We discussed this yesterday. Ba'alei Pesach ba'alei elo mena chulen u me'izim. A korban Pesach only comes from sheep and goats. Elo it's coming to teach us why does it say bakar cattle? Elo mo'isar ba'alei elo davar haba min hatzo'in umin habakar that should become it should become something that could come from sheep and cattle which is a shlamim. As the Gemara, but I have another source for that. I don't need this pasuk that you're telling me Zevach Pesach shel tzo'in u bakar. I have two other sources. From Machan Afko u Machan Mishmo Afko I can learn it from Shmuel's father. The sin V'eina tzo'in Omar Rebbi Shmuel Davar haba min hatzo'in yes zevach shlamim. The korban Pesach that comes from sheep should become a shlamim. V'akasi Machan Afko Mo'isar Afko I have another source, a third source. Keves Rebbi says Zevach Pesach la'alyo. What do you do Rebboisei? What do you do with the with the tail of the korban Pesach? Do you eat it? It's delicious. What do you do? Tail is not eaten. The tail of the korban Pesach goes on the mizbe'ach. How do I know this? Omar Rebbi says Zevach Pesach la'alyo that the korban Pesach the the tail goes on the mizbe'ach. How do I know? Shoymer im keves lahavi Pesach over shnasay. Oh, sorry. Tzo'in u bakar. Keves. These two words im keves are both extra. So, the word keves teaches us that the tail goes on the mizbe'ach. Kishoymer im keves. The word im what do I do with it? Lahavi Pesach over shnasay. So, now I have a third source that the korban Pesach that is no longer a year old. Korban Pesach has to be within a year of its life 365 days from when it was born. 367 no good. Pesach over shnasay. Ushlamim haba'im machmas Pesach l'chol mitzvas shlamim. So, Pesach over shnasay is too old. Ushlamim haba'im machmas Pesach l'chol mitzvas shlamim. So, I used to ask this question. You know, I used to I go around asking bakar and all these different questions. What kind of aveira is it to hit somebody? What's t'mura? What's t'rumas ma'aser? Back in the day I used to ask this. When you come to Eretz Yisrael, when you come to the Beis Hamikdash on Pesach Erev Pesach, how many animals are you bringing with you? And the answer is a lot of times five. A lot of people don't know. Here we go. It's shlamim Erev Pesach now. Pesach Olas Re'iyah cuz you're seeing Hakadosh Baruch Hu in a long time. You haven't been to the Beis Hamikdash. So, you bring a special olah called Olas Re'iyah. Chagiga Yud Daled which we're talking about this unreal. I'm telling you seriously it's crazy. I'm I'm emotional about this. We're talking about Chagiga Yud Daled. The It's a Chagiga korban Chagiga you bring to only today. It's the only time in the year. It's called Chagiga Yud Daled. And there's one tomorrow. Chagiga Yud Daled. That's what it says over here in the Gemara. The Gemara The Gemara says it. Ushlamim haba'im machmas machmas Pesach. The shlamim In other words, the Chagiga that comes together with the korban Pesach. L'chol mitzvas shlamim. It gets all the the halachos of shlamim. That that what? Shei tonos mikol You got to lean on it with all your might. Unisachim you have to bring wine. Ut'nuvas shadayim you have to wave the breast and the thigh like you do the back and forth. Kishoymer im eiz she'eina tzo'in. And then it says in the pasuk im eiz it stops. Limed eiz she'eina tzo'in. You should know that a goat you don't have to throw the tail of the goat onto This is I mean I want to see what the These are the tails of the sheep. The real tails. Sheep usually should have this. That's the aliyah they're referring to. Okay. Now, this is the goat. Let's see. I've never seen this one. >> [laughter] >> Funny. [snorts] Okay. Ah, gishmaka'ish here. You see they worked hard on this. Tzo'in u bakar. The Gemara's question is why you're telling me that Rebbi Akiva learns from this pasuk that if you have extra leftover korban Pesach it turns into shlamim. Here I I just brought you two more sources that it turns into shlamim. Says the Gemara plus Rebbi Akiva There's actually three. You're right. Why do we need three? Chad over shnasay over shnasay. One comes to tell you when a situation where it's after Pesach. The time of shchitah is tonight. You know, 3 4 hours from now. It's over shnasay. Too late. You can't shacht anymore. The over shnasay It's already means both times. It's already too old. The chad So, that's one pasuk that everything is going wrong for it. It's after Pesach and it's already 2 years old. The chad over shnasay over shnasay. It's too late to shacht this year's Pesach, but it's not 2 years old. It's only a half a year old. The chad over shnasay over shnasay. One is talking about 3 days before Pesach. It's not even the time to do it. Utzrichin all three psukim. Why? Yesh me over Let me just make sure I'm not missing any. This guy does not belong here. Okay, beautiful. I need all three. The the worst of the worst that's already past Pesach and the guy is already 2 years old. This animal is completely pushed off. I but if the Pesach went by but he's still the right age. The he could use this carbon maybe on the second Pesach. A month after Pesach there's a second Pesach for those who couldn't bring the carbon. Aim a loy, maybe he should not turn into a he should remain in the carbon Pesach. Commission only turns into the what about a case the below average NASA That's because he's already pushed off a little bit from the first Pesach. I mean but if in the situation that he's before Pesach and he's not even 2 years old he's available for this Pesach. So maybe he shouldn't turn into if he shocked it in too early. Aim a loy he shouldn't turn into three that's why I need all three sources. >> [music] >> Meredith is spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a sheer today. mdy.sponsor.com or sponsor.mdy.org.