CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 73 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky*

[music] >> Good morning, BOYS. HI. LIVE FROM MIAMI. We started the paragraph yesterday about the 10 that the coin takes a from and the rest and then what does he do with the he puts it on the back. And it goes to the rest of the whatever is left over These are the 10 whatever is left over the get to eat. The first five are that are voluntary then you have the guy a woman nice. That's where we're holding. So the says like I am. The leftover says in the mission goes to the end. Pay attention again. that a lot of the game Unfortunately, we were supposed to read this yesterday. It doesn't happen very often that you read a in the on the same day that you read it in show. on a Monday. We read this on a Monday. We're going to read it tomorrow. Well, not tomorrow, Thursday. What does it say? How do I know that the goes to the coin. Now I got to tell you guys, you came to a very easy today's seriously super just it's just the easy off. It goes easy. How do we know if you have to see if it says it is a positive before it says before or the like civil. And if it doesn't say it it also says. So this is the positive that talks about one particular of the leftover I don't know the sun should eat. So it says before whatever is left over you should eat. And if it doesn't if you don't have a source if you don't doesn't say before it says it so it also says a generalization and this is this week's by saying you going to see it. Pay attention when the reads it on Thursday and on this. You'll know what it's talking about. Because we're talking about this a lot besides this one. I crave it so much I want it. This is the of the this one this one this one for the ones. It says that regarding all the whatever is left over I don't know when and the sun should eat. So the starts off asking where do I know this? So what do you mean where do I know it's a possible? No, no, no. What I meant to ask is like in the Bible. All these guys over here most of them are all from wheat. That wasn't my question. In this list over here from the 10 there are two that are made out of barley. Which two anybody? What else? Who said I am? You want to you grab a seat. Sit down. Sit down. You know so much sit down. I don't know we'll be discussing the for the last few weeks. or days. They are barley. So the says all 10 all eight out of 10 I didn't even have a question. Keep coming by bus I am. Regarding the and the so we have to remember these two that's what we're going to be discussing for most of today. These two the one that comes for the what's the the is the second day of this day when when they the time to be they brought the the and that allows Israel to eat the new crop. any wheat barley how much is meaning that grows up until it's also to eat until you bring the in. What's the the the husband warns his wife not to have with another man. She doesn't listen. Now he doesn't trust her. He brings her to the end. The whole long process she has to get dressed with this clothes that thing. They give it the water with name. But one of the things is she has to bring a in. What does the accomplish? To see whether or not she she was there. If she sinned or not. It's to be what she did. I'm saying this I'm just being for later on. I only need a source for those two. But I am now it says the but even those two says like I am but it says like I am. Once you do why think about it? If the goes like this and takes this amount and puts it into the onto the back so what do you do with the rest? Obviously the rest goes to the end. So the I don't even know what I am. In the mission we saw that according to I am the goes like this the rest goes to the but according to I am sometimes even if the goes like this does a the rest goes on the also. This two This two this one comes on the and this is the one that goes on the end. So the says keep coming by I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. You take a and it doesn't go on the the rest it's not I don't even know what I am. You take the you put it on the back but I don't even know what I am. They're separate. They both go on the but in different times. According to I am okay so now we narrowed it down for the rest of the day. We have I don't even know what I am sometimes you take a you put it the on the I don't even know what I am. According to him how do I know that these two are made out of these two made out of barley which are the and the how do I know that the leftover after the takes the that the leftover goes to the the can eat and benefit from the in. So the I tell you how. Says the >> [clears throat] >> I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. There's a I don't even know what I am and there's a I don't even know what I am. This is a I don't even know what I am. I'll show you real quickly. It's not like big thing. I don't even know what I am it doesn't have anything in it. It doesn't have oil. Just plain flour. So what do you do with this plain flour? The takes a and that's it. He doesn't mix it. He doesn't do anything. Okay. So This is a this we're going to deal with a lot now. Here's the again. The I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. So it says the from this I am I learn I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. I already established that anything that any that comes from wheat the gets to benefit from the I don't even know what I am. So it must be I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. So you must say that it's talking about the barley version not not the wheat. I don't even know what I am. I don't even know what I am. So what's the of barley? Which one of the two? You have the you have the which one has oil? The has oil. And the other one the that's doesn't have. So now we have a source for both the and the the that the gets to eat whatever is left over. Now the asks You're telling me that this you see on the screen I don't even know what I am comes to tell me that these two the and the the gets to eat. Guess what? I have to do something else with the and once I do something else with the it's I don't have a leftover to teach me this this question is going to be 25 lines long. Super easy. I am miss. It just goes it's the same thing over and over. 25 lines so it's like almost like a freebie. We get the half the in. And then we get the question. What's the question again? I don't have an available this I don't even know what I am does not come to teach us that I don't even know what I am the leftover of the it comes to teach us something else. What? I don't even know what I am. The says that a I am who receives a portion in the end cannot trade it with his friend. Now let's say the does not like steak. I don't like steak. He wants the bird. He likes schnitzel. Like like they told me he says 10 I rather have from 10 than a steak. So he told me he's a steak guy. So let's say he's he's for schnitzel. Yeah. So he tells what are you smiling? I am miss. He says this all the time. Okay, great. I'm a you gave me steak. I don't want steak right now. Here. You take my steak give me your schnitzel. No good. What about you give me your schnitzel and I'll give you my schnitzel? I like square schnitzel. I don't like it when it's long like that. I like the square. No. I like it well done and you No. The kids are Do not give me your oil and take my steak. Do not give me your beef. Don't even trade the same item. Don't even trade. You want to switch? I'll take your meat and I'll give you my mincemeat. Look. That's the halacha. So, we're just going to go through all these things. Could you trade meat for beef for for for for for dog for for for pigeon? Could you do trade pigeon for flour? You trade flour for flour? Uh that's 25 lines that basically you're going to say, "How do you know all this?" From this possuk we just used. The whole mincha. So, it's not available to teach me the halacha that we came from. What's the halacha that we're trying to find? How do you know that a cohen gets to eat the leftover omer and sita? Now, inside. How do you know that you can't trade a a mincha, a piece of bread from the mizbeach for a steak, for zvachim? Okay, it's another possuk, not the one that we're getting to. Soon we'll get to ours. So, there's a possuk that says Everybody shares with everything. Great. Yochal. So, now we're going through it. Quickly, yeah? You know what? I I I'll give it to you. You cannot trade bread for steak. Why? She'll eat come with the dollars. So, let's talk about a carbon oil of the yard for a second. Oil of the yard, as we know, means that there's certain aveiros you do and you should bring a an animal. If you can't afford an animal, you're poor, you bring a bird. If you can't afford a bird bird, you bring flour. The flower is never instead of an animal. What's the flower instead of our boys say? The bird. The bird is instead of an animal. If you can't bring an animal, bring a bird. If you can't bring a bird, you bring flower. So, the flower is instead of a bird, not instead of the animal. It's one step removed from the animal. You must be Mike. You looked a little bit You got it. Okay, great. Anybody didn't get that? So, we're good. We're good. You could say, "You got it?" It sounds like you should be able to trade it one for the other, but we're going to see you can't. Oh, no. So, the more says, "I get they cannot trade flower for an animal cuz they're very far apart from each other. But, it Let's say flower for the bird, you should be able to." That's what the more is going to say now. Flower for bird, you should. They replace each other. The the super poor replaces the bird with flower. Time of labor for that I need another possuk. A similar possuk. The whole the whole entire thing. Now, every person in in the cohuna gets a piece. There's no trading. Okay, I get it. Now, we already decided you can't trade flower for bird. Shalom One is a is a an animal and one is bread. It doesn't go. One is a a protein and one is a Oh. Carb. Carb. Hello I will yak with you What about the bird? Why can't you trade chicken or not there's no chicken in the pigeon for you know the the yusham the pigeon in the yuchidim. The young pigeon. You can't Why can't you trade pigeon for steak? They're both blood. They're both meat. Time of labor for the whole entire year. Okay, so we have another possuk. The whole entire year. The whole entire year. It makes sense that you cannot trade steak for a bird because a bird How do you shacht the bird? How do you do melika with your finger? And how do you shacht an animal with a knife? The maybe you should be able to trade one mincha for another mincha. Let's say I have a cracker type of mincha and you have a soft moist like a sponge cake kind of mincha. Do that. >> [clears throat] >> The whole entire year. Because both of them have mitzvah. Time of labor for the whole entire year. This is the whole entire year. This is the This is our possuk right here. The whole entire year. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. So, we have our possuk. Possuk tes. We're good. Zoch the gemara. Yochal the whole entire year. Okay. Maybe you can't trade two types of two different types of minchas. Is is this easy gemara or not? Was I lying to you guys? It's easy, no? Maybe you shouldn't be able to trade a two different types of cheese danish for chocolate danish. But, what if they're exactly the same? The whole entire year. One is soft, one is hard. I'll trade the same exact item for the same item. Time of labor. What does it mean? Let me give you a mashal. Let's say I'm a cohen. I'm going to be in the on Wednesday. You're here on Tuesday. So, I tell you, "Look, I'll give you tomorrow. I'll give you You you take my share and I'll take your share. In other words, we we barter. I don't I'm not in the mood now. It's not enough now. Every Every cohen gets a very small piece. Let me build it up. You build it up. We'll trade a different time." No, even if it's the same item. The whole entire year. The whole entire year. We're just going down the list. Rebbe Ovadia easy stuff. So, we know the list of So, let's say um By the way, this is important to know. What's a mincha, Rebbe Ovadia? Is a mincha a cohen or not? Huh? You say Does everybody agree with him? Huh? You agree? Yes. A mincha is cohen or not. So, I would think all these talking about minchas, so maybe you can't trade can't trade a for an some. The oil is not not part of it because it does not eat. Says the gemara, "Yochal the whole entire year. What if I want to trade a for a some?" Time of labor. Ish yochal. Ish yochal is referring to cohen. It's the by the minchas, right? The possuk of in the mincha it says ish yochal. We read it before. The whole entire year. So, you see that they're interchangeable. There's a cash. The whole entire year. The whole entire year. Because you can't trade can't trade can't trade cohen. Ish. This possuk says ish. Ish You have to be bar mitzvah. You Mordechai, what's your name? What's his name? Moishe. Moishe can't get. That's it. If he's a cohen, he can't get. He's bar mitzvah. Ish even mum. Uh an adult could get a piece even if he if even if he has a blemish. But, but a a wholesome cohen without any without any mum cannot take a piece. Why? Because it says ish. I'll call upon him. Now that we did the 25 lines, what's the more's kasha? The more's kasha is that the possuk the whole entire year is not available. We need it for these halachas that we just learned right now that there's no trading in all sorts of circumstances. Says the gemara, "Whoa. Me kol nafka?" In this possuk I'm going to zoom in to the first word of the possuk. In the possuk it says the whole. So, we're going to learn it from the word kol. All this that we just learned when they use this particular There was a bunch of that they used, but this particular possuk. The whole entire year. That what? That you can't trade one mincha for another mincha. From the word kol, not from the rest of it. Before that we were learning that a cohen gets the of the omer and the sita, that was from the rest of the possuk. But, now this halacha is from the word kol. As the gemara about 50 degrees Rebbe Yehuda. You remember Rebbe Shimon? Rebbe Shimon says that there there's a certain uh No, that was in yesterday's gemara. The the the the first line We didn't learn it today. We should have maybe gone back, but we had him two times before. Rebbe Shimon says that the in the You can mix them up. You can take five and five and it's considered a double. That's Rebbe Shimon. Rebbe Elie argues. How does he learn it? He learns it from the word kol. So, says the gemara, "I already used up the word kol. I can't How do you tell me that that all these halachas we just learned are from the word kol?" Says the gemara, "No, no, no. Rebbe Yehuda, not Rebbe Yehuda." So, that's why if you zoom in it on here, you'll see that I put a the vav is in purple because the word of a colossus is is split into two. One limud that Rebbe Yosi ben Yo'ezer learns that he he argues that he can't mix chulin and mikdash he learns it from the vov. The halacha over here that we just learned that you can't trade a mincha for a mincha that we learn from the word kol. The halacha that we started off this sugia that a kohen gets to eat the leftovers of the omer is from the rest of the pasuk as so. The kol mincha belula bashemen u'vchulin the rest of the pasuk. Great. So that's that. That's this pasuk. Now, again, going back to the original question. We have two minachos that we don't have a source for. What are the two minachos? A sotah and an omer. How do we know that what? That a kohen gets to eat all the leftovers. He comes with a giant bowl. He takes a little bit of three fingers worth. Puts it on his bag. But you have a ton of flour left. How do you know that the kohen could get eat it? Ravina omer, I'll tell you. We're like what? 12 13 lines from the bottom. As you have the Tanna Levi. He learns from Levi the Tanna Levi. L'chol korbanos u'lchol minchos u'lchol chatos u'lchol asham. You hear this? Once again, an easy sugia. It says kol korbanos, l'chol chatos u'lchol asham. So we're going to have here at least four limudim. Kol korbanos l'rabbos lo yishamen sh'men u'tzara'as. What? So Yossi bar Chasham did a a fast forward on this. You guys remember this? This is a metzora. He has all these korbanos in the back of his wagon and in the front, what do you see in the front? Flour but also the oil. You see the jug of oil? Let's say that we use a quarter of that oil for the whole process of the metzora. The ear, the the head, the toe. What do you do with the rest of the oil? The rest of the oil goes to the kohanim. How do I know? So let me just show you this video real quickly. It's a top quality video. But he doesn't fast forward over here. Oh, he also has to sprinkle on the floor a little bit seven times, right? Gishmah. So when he's done with all this oil, what do you do with it? That's what I do with these these words over here. Kol korbanos u'minchos u'asham. What do I do? Kol korbanos l'rabbos lo yishamen sh'men u'tzara'as. That the leftover of the oil goes to the kohen. Why would I Why do I need a special pasuk? Soka d'as ha'mina min aish k'she'rachmana. What does the kohen get the leftover when he has leftover from the fire? Stuff that goes on the mizbeach. Oil doesn't go on the mizbeach. So I think he doesn't get the leftover whatever's left in the jug. K'masha l'ani gets the leftover. Next. New sugia rabbosai. L'chol minchos u'asham. What do I learn from l'chol minchos u'asham? The rabbosai minchas omer u'minchas keno'os. That's our sugia. Again, we were asking, how do I know when I have these two minachos? The minchas omer u'minchas sotah. How do you know that the the kohen gets the extra? Here. L'chol minchos u'asham. Soka d'as ha'mina would say that it's different than everything else. Why? V'ochlo oso m'shak u'varbehem. When does the kohen he goes deeper than what we said before. When does the kohen get to eat the the mincha? He gets to eat the mincha when ashak u'varbehem. When there's a kapara. When a when a mincha brings a kapara. Omer rachmana d'ha'hi. L'hachatzos omer. What does the omer do? Doesn't give a kapara to klal Yisrael. What does it do? It allows klal Yisrael to eat the new crop. It's a matter. What does the sotah do? What's the mincha of the sotah? Doesn't give her a kapara for her aveira. If she was over that aveira, what happens to her? She explodes. There's no kapara. That's the kapara maybe. The the explosion. What does the mincha do? It comes to be mevarer. Comes to see if if she actually was uh chayev. L'chol chatos. What do you do with l'chol chatos? The rabbosai chatas so'ef. Soka d'as ha'mina n'veleihi. L'chol chatos comes to include when somebody brings a bird that the kohanim get to share in the bird. Why would I think not? Because how do you how do you kill a bird in the Beis Hamikdash? I don't want to say shechting it's not shechting. It's melika. With your finger. What's the process? You go from the back of the neck and you the the the nail goes right through. What does it hit first? The spine. You puncture the spine. So what happens when you puncture the spine? It becomes an aveila on the spot. Only afterwards, a millisecond later, you're going through the esophagus and the uh the trachea and esophagus. The cut in the veshes. But it's too late. Halachically you made it a treifa. So maybe the kohen should shouldn't be eating a treifa. Shouldn't be eating an aveila. Soka d'as even an aveila. K'masha l'ani l'chol chatos. Next sugia rabbosai. L'chol asham. What do I do with l'chol asham from that pasuk? The rabbosai asham lo zeira asham u'tzara'as. When a a nazir Somebody sent me a thing that's talking about In the beginning, no. I believe it's when he's done his neziros then the metzora is done with his tzara'as. As the Gemara, wait a minute, you just mentioned nazir and metzora together but you made a little bit of a mistake. Asham metzora b'hedyik sevei. I don't need this word l'chol asham. It says meforesh in the Torah ki chatas asham hu l'kohen. It goes to the kohen. Says the Gemara, ela l'rabbosai asham nazir, you're right. Only one of them. The nazir k'asham metzora. The reason why we put the word metzora there is because it's like the a nazir is like the metzora. Soka d'as ha'mina d'ha'shas gosi. The nazir, why does he bring a korban? He brings a korban because now he's permitted to drink wine. Now he's permitted to touch dead people. It doesn't come and it doesn't come as a kapara. And we said ashak u'varbehem. The kohen needs he only eats from things that are kapara. So says the Gemara, k'masha l'ani the kohen gets to eat from it. Asher yishivei one more. Zegazel ger. We discussed a few times. If somebody takes from a ger and he swears that he didn't take from the ger and he and he he he he makes a shvuas sheker and then the ger dies. What does he do? How does he get a kapara? What? He gives it to the kohen. As you see the zegazel ger. L'chayil u'vanacha. Sh'chayi. This this zegazel ger that was given to a kohen, it becomes a personal property of the kohen. It's not hekdesh. It's his money. And he can do with his money whatever he wants. He could be mekadesh a woman with it. L'sh'chayi u'vanacha af ilu kashvei se isha. The the Gemara says many times sometimes when when there's not a great enough k'mina, so the Gemara says, what's the nafka mina? L'kidushei isha. Can I be Can I be mekadesh a woman with this money? Omer Rav Huna. Daf and gimmel beis. This is gevaldik. What's going on is as follows. A is permitted to bring a korban. He brings an nedava. What does he do? What's a what's a nedava? How many korbanos are in a nedava? I can think of two. An oila and also a shlamim. When a a brings shlomei avodah k'chavim oilos. Omer Rav Huna shlomei avodah k'chavim oilos. Automatically, if a brings a korban, even if he says it's a shlamim, it's an oila. What's the difference between oila and shlamim? Oila, the entire thing goes on the mizbeach. And a shlamim, the kohanim get to eat. Small part goes on the mizbeach, most of it the kohanim get to eat. Eiboi seima kra, eiboi seima svara. It could be logic and it could be a pasuk. What's the svara? Eiboi seima svara, the logic is avodah k'chavim l'vei Shamai. A he has one intent. He's not he's not interested in supporting the kohanim. He wants to bring a gift to Hashem. So it's kulo l'Hashem. What he meant to say is an oila. To me this was fascinating when I read this. It's like I know people say, ah, it's the Who cares? The the brought it. No. The meant to bring an oila. You got to be you got to be yashar. He didn't mean to bring a shlamim. He he doesn't know. He said he said shlamim. But we know that he meant that it's l'Hashem. Don't try to eat a steak. There's no you're not I'm but it's just a No. We're makpid on a So that's the the the logic. Eiboi seima kra. And also have a pasuk. Asher yakrivu l'Hashem l'oila. Kol hamikriv l'oila l'hevy. That Asher yakrivu says Rashi is where we learn that that's the pasuk that we learn that a brings a korban. He's allowed we accept a korban from a But it says the next word l'oila. It goes straight to the oila. What? Completely burned. Kulo l'Hashem. Kol hamikriv anything you bring Most of Rav Huna I agree. I have a question. Avodah k'chavim sh'einah d'lo d'Yisrael it says that if a said he's bringing a nedava, he's bringing shlamim. Misanam Yisrael gives it to a Jew. Yisrael ochelin. The Jew can eat it. So you see that's not an oila. It's a shlamim. You get to eat it. Omer Rav Huna, you didn't understand Shamsha. Hachi omer. Amanas Yisrael k'korban Yisrael. Not that he wanted to bring a shlamim. He wanted to benefit the Jew that has to bring a shlamim. He says, I'll pay for the Jew. But it's a Jew's korban. Yisrael ochelin. Amanas So so that's why the Jew gets to eat it. Amanas Yisrael k'korban kohen. If I'm conditioned that the kohen ochelin. Because here the said I'll just take care of the bill. But it wasn't a goy's korban. Most of Rav Shisha another question. Eilu minachos u'minchas sh'eirin l'kohanim. It says these are the minachos they do kemitzah and the leftover goes to the kohanim. One of them is minchas Right? That's in our mishna. Omer Rav Yochana oh. It says meforesh. That what? One of the 10, if you look over here on the list of the 10 number six is guy. And it says in the mission. Look at the top header. A little bit of like Adam the coin gets stated. It's not it's not cool or less sham. It's not an oil. You're right. It's a the what the sign ish it says already ish an adult a man. Why don't say twice ishish the rabbit says so if they that a guy could could give another and a double we said a hundred times we'll say it again. What's an Adava? It's malicious where do you have a where do you have a beer in a zoo? So zoo when a person says in the double he means only this animal if this animal dies that's it. But if a person says neither it's even if this animal dies he has to bring another one he has to replace it. But anyway the point is it's a gift to Hashem. That a guy could give a gift. Now exactly which one so we have a we keep says only an oil. You say this is you can bring anything. So here we go again easy to borrow I should be able to it seems like only an oil it says in the past so I don't know how they go to bring okay one word says in the dream includes so I don't know I don't know they can bring a so I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know they can bring a bird. The now remember this word because we're going to take it out soon. How do you know you can bring fragrance and you bring wood? It says all types of the device the actual word includes everything. MK my oil. If you're including that a guy can bring every he can even bring wood. So of course he can bring oil so why does the say oil? Why is that the only thing the tire says? Oil probably that a guy we're going to see in a second it comes to exclude mazeros. No no no I disagree. A guy can only bring one carbon like we started off the top of the almond show me over the by the way I forgot to tell you. I'll ask you now what's the difference if I learn that a guy whatever if he brings a lemon we say it's an oil. From logic or from a positive what's the difference if I learn it from logic or a positive? Anybody anybody for 10,000 points? Huh? It is better. But it does there's a there's a difference. You're right very good but there's a difference I tell you the difference. If it's a positive then there's no way around it. Whatever anytime he brings in a carbon it's automatically an oil. But if it's logic what's with the logic? Oh he didn't want to bring a wanted to bring oil. But let's say he says I want a no no no I know the difference and I want a then he can bring a if it's logic then he can bring a if it's a positive he can never bring a the positive says whatever he brings is an oil. The why are you telling me you learn that the the why is it the word oil that a can he doesn't become a us? But the guy can't be a but we learned it from a different place. We don't need the word oil. My Jews only only so can be a but it's all right I don't know what I don't I don't know I think that that only refers to the carbon a guy cannot bring the carbon but he could be a I don't know if you remember when I went to Vail I don't remember when it was before my daughter I guess moved to Utah so I was in Vail and I met a over there I guess I could take a picture of look at his hair. It goes all the way down to his basically his feet. The real it told me I don't know I forgot what they call it. So oh it's busy busy uh shouldn't even say that word now. Fine those who know know. I I forgot to show that video next time. Okay. That what that I would just to explain cuz there's a little bit of bother me when I saw the explain. If a if a guy can't be a so how could he bring a carbon? If we learn from one positive you can't be a so how how are you going to bring a carbon for another? The answer is maybe he'll bring a carbon another for another Jew. That also he can't do. Should we just should we just stop here unfortunately? Yeah we have to stop over here. Have a have a wonderful day. We're holding to Merit is of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today mdy.sponsor.com or sponsoredmdy.com. [music]