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>> Good
morning boys and
girls.
>> [screaming]
>> Live
from Miami. We're holding on the top of
the iron base. I'm an olive. Quite
certain with my hand and toes or with my
base or evil or with my base hammock.
The
The law is we learned that you should
not
harvest
wheat, barley, the
meaning before you bring the carbon the
which is on the second day of Pesach.
Why not? Cuz it's the issue. The rice to
eat
the new crop in our stroll at least.
And
we don't want people touching the new
crop because they might eat it.
Unless the carbon was already brought.
So the tomorrow What
is the reason that
you're permitted to cut the wheat in
certain circumstances? In all three
circumstances or two out of the three
are definitely
for
a a mix of
the mix of of
a
mix of a model
or the mix of of base magic. My time
it says in the possible
when when you're cutting for yourself,
you're harvesting yourself, that's also.
But if you're going to do it for a mix
of that's permitted to do
before the timer.
This is
easier stuff today.
So you're not permitted to put up to tie
the is that our
TV? This makes sense. It's just the
noise.
You got loud.
Really?
It's loud. Okay. So we take a bundle.
You know how to tie the bundle but you
got to have a bundle. Why? My time of
the come of the F sharp like the
keynote. The less that you're dealing
with this, we allow you to to harvest
it. Why? Because there's a headset
because there is a
whatever it is but
don't don't tie it. Mrs. I'm going to
have a minute come up.
The mix of is to bring it says the
mission to bring from
the standing wheat meaning that is
attached to the ground. Here
before it's an apostle.
What does it mean? So
physically it means that it's attached
to the ground versus detached from the
ground but also it means that when you
when you harvest it, you say I'm
harvesting this for a mix of. There's a
certain component of the schmo over
here. I'm harvesting it so I can bring
the mix of a timer.
Turn it on and on. The email target mix
of the corn. By the way
this is one of the only times in the
Torah that the word the email
What is it? How do you translate the
word the email in in English?
And if
The truth is over here it's
It's not if. You must. It's a must. It's
one of the only times in the there's a
few there's three four times in the
Torah that email means you must not if
you. If means it's it's depending on
you. You you decide. No, you're not
decide.
The fish
mix of a timer. So let me explain the
question by showing you this chart.
It says in the possible email target mix
of the corn
over call the age get a scar on target
email for a What are you guys see in
this possible right now?
A double ocean. There's an extra word
target here. It would have said target
once, it would have been fine. Why
twice?
We're going to learn a big you decide
from this word.
That there's there's the the
the killer way to do something in the
first place you're supposed to do it as
so.
But if you don't have the killer, then
you do it with the other. You do it
after the fact. Meaning
the fish
loving a comma. You should
you should harvest the grain
as it's attached to the ground. In other
words, do a
do it for
the sham mix of a timer. Meaning not so
meaning I can only mark. How do you know
if you don't find you don't have
anything attached to the ground? You can
take it from something that was already
detached from the target.
We'll see what it means. In other words,
okay, just bring it. Whatever you have
to We'll we'll take whatever you got.
The word another shot target the fish
mix of a loving a lot. We learned and
I'll show you again to remind everybody
there's a mix of
to
that the the the grain should be moist.
Laugh moist rock mall camel rock mall
says the possible camel. It's a new
trick and it's a way to understand the
word to divide the word in two. It's
soft and it's it's like
a
Yeah, it's
it's flour.
If
you don't have a choice, there's nothing
moist around. Everything is dried up.
Bring the dry. Again,
the word target. The word another shot
target the fish mix of a loving a lot.
The killer it's the best way to do it is
to bring to go
reap and harvest the wheat at night.
Right after I've done first thing you
could do so It's me moist.
[clears throat] It's full full nights.
Meaning
full weeks of you know from week to week
from Monday to Monday
Sunday to Sunday. I mean whatever it is.
Full full full weeks.
Meaning
if you don't you can't do it at night.
You couldn't find anything. You did it
during the day. It's okay. And that's a
big that we're going to see right now
that we're saying that you're allowed to
harvest during the day. The day of the
Sabbath.
It pushes off What pushes off Sabbath?
So the most going to say at least
according to Rabbi but there's a Sabbath
is referring to bringing it as a carbon
not all the reaping and everything else.
Not the harvesting. Not the tractor. You
can't run a tractor on Sabbath but you
could bring it on the on Sabbath. How do
you know this? I'm going to talk again
from the word target. Target culture who
target of means anyway. Just give it to
me.
Even though it's not comma. Even though
it's not night. Target target become a
lot of target of a feeling of Sabbath.
Target of a feeling of the tumor. Next
time I culture.
But none
So here the more brings a mission in the
killer. But none call a lot of culture
like a timer with a half to call a lot
of a favor. So the entire night yeah
you're supposed to go immediately after
I've done a but guess what? Sometimes it
takes time to find the field and this
and that and you went to the wrong
place.
So you have the entire night to cut the
timer. And also the half to call a lot
of a favor. We know
Here let me just show you this. So
you remember
every animal you put the the email on
the back and that you can do all night.
But she says no.
She says a killer here that's referring
to when the the email fall off the back.
The famous video that the Israelis love
a lot.
The model of the year end. If it went on
the back and it fell off, you allowed to
put it back on. So we're talking about
that. Why they discuss why why she says
that when in fact you could just put it
with a killer Cuz you're not really
supposed to put it on all night. I made
like a
stopped it. So we're referring to
putting it back on.
Go on and close it in the mission.
Something
that the mix of is to do it during the
day like
it's only during the day. You cannot do
you cannot throw the blood on the back
at night. And
so the mix of is to do it at night. You
do it at night.
Totally Lila do me all day
Just
like something that if the mix of is
during the day, you can't do it at
night. I've done
So something something that's
a night thing so you shouldn't do during
the day. So what's the culture?
It's a night mix of to cut the timer.
You're supposed to cut it at night. So
how could you tell me that you allowed
to do it during the day?
It's
a mix of
a Rabbi. Our mission goes like Rabbi
that you could do it during the day but
Who's the Rabbi Rabbi
Rabbi the son of the famous Rabbi
What is he famous for? He sat in the
cave with his father for 13 years. He's
killing people when he came out by
mistake you know just looking burning
people to
to to nothing etc.
So
I'm saying it because the more soon
going to say
that Rabbi got it from Rabbi
his father.
Rabbi got it from his Rabbi. Who's the
famous Rabbi of Rabbi Who is he?
Rabbi killer.
Okay.
So
Rabbi killer the son of Rabbi says no no
no. You cannot
cut this
barley
in the middle of the day. This is a
night mix of.
So the more
okay yeah.
The time of the
the time of the
the mix of
If a person was bringing the mix of of
the timer to the
When what time of the day do we bring
the timer on the
the day time?
And
we find out that it's time of the so you
have two options.
You could put the theoretically you
could put this mix of on the
Why? It's time of the.
You know how to put a time of the
but we have a concept called tumor who
drove a fever.
It's for the community so I'm going to
put it on the mizbeach.
But, there's another thing.
Since you can go ahead and get another
one,
so get another one. Why why are you
doing it? Why are you bringing a tammy
one?
But, the problem is it's the middle of
the day.
How are you going to get another one?
You have to go harvest more more barley,
and you're not allowed to harvest during
the day.
Bring another one instead of it. And if
you can't find another one,
I'm going to lie. Have they become
the Rebbe?
So, you see from here the Rebbe holds
what? That you could bring it during the
day. You could harvest during the day.
Because if I I'm telling you go get
another one, that means I'm telling you
go harvest more barley and bring a new
one.
But, if you don't have more barley,
that's it. Less barley in Eretz Yisrael.
So, I I take the tammy one and I put it
on the mizbeach, and I tell him, "If
you're very smart,
shut up. Be quiet."
Why? Why be quiet? Cuz I don't want
people to know that you brought tammy,
cuz maybe next year they'll start
bringing tammy on carbonos without
realizing that this was
just after the fact. The Rebbe
Think of who Ben Kakh
comes Rebbe Elazar and says, "No, no,
no. You got a problem here, my friend.
You can't You cannot harvest wheat in
the middle of the day. And it's the
middle of the day now. We just found out
that it's tammy. You know what you do?
You mark of it. There's no other way out
of this. You have to be mark of it with
the tumah, and you don't You tell
everybody don't tell anybody it was
tammy. Shalom Yisrael.
If you harvest in the middle of the day,
possible.
Now we know what the sentence means. So,
Rebbe
Rebbe Elazar, the son of Rebbe Shimon
bar Yochai, is saying it like Rebbe
Akiva, who happened to be his father's
Rebbe.
The Snan.
Klav omer Rebbe Akiva. This is the
famous Rebbe Akiva that you guys all
knew. The Snan.
So, the Mishnah Klav omer Rebbe Akiva
Rebbe Akiva says a rule,
a general rule.
Meres Shabbos. Any melacha you can do
before Shabbos ain't not doiche Shabbos
is not push off Shabbos. The Savora
Rebbe Shmuel. And Rebbe Elazar holds
like Rebbe Shmuel. Don't make serious
mitzvah. So, since the tzira of the of
the omer is a mitzvah, we're going to
see there's an argument in it. But, if
you hold that harvesting with the
tractor is a mitzvah, so that would push
off Shabbos.
The koresh rishus of kotzer rishus.
There's no
concept in the Torah that plowing is a
mitzvah. There's no mitzvah in the Torah
in anywhere to plow.
So, the same thing would apply to
harvesting. There's no mitzvah in the
Torah to harvest besides one place. Of
kotzer rishus.
So, there's no We don't find a mitzvah
to to harvest. Yotzei tzira omer she
mitzvah. To harvest for the omer that is
a mitzvah.
But, if you're telling me that I could
do this
in the in the daytime,
so just do it in the day. Why do Why do
you have to push off Shabbos
and do it at night? And do it on
Shabbos.
You should harvest it before Shabbos,
and then you don't have to be oisur.
It's just like you tell the mohel to
carry his knife before Shabbos. So, do
the harvesting before Shabbos.
From here you see that if if you The
reason why it's pushes off Shabbos
because you cannot do it erev Shabbos.
You can do it erev Shabbos during the
day, and it's possible you're doing it
during the day.
Asks the Gemara of Rebbe, "Left talmid
of Rebbe Shimon. I don't understand.
Rebbe is a talmid of Rebbe Shimon bar
Yochai.
And therefore, he should also say like
Rebbe Shimon bar Yochai's Rebbe Rebbe
Akiva. In other words, they all have
traditions. Nobody makes up their own
thing. So, Rebbe who learned by Rebbe
Shimon
is no different than Rebbe Elazar, who
learned by his father Rebbe Shimon. And
they should be in the same They should
be in the same team."
But, Tanya Listen to this. How do I know
Rebbe is Rebbe Shimon's talmid?
It's a place called Tekoa. They were
learning Torah there.
It was on Shabbos,
and Rebbe Shimon was going to the mikvah
or whatever it was,
and we had to get him a towel. We had to
get him shampoo.
So, how do you get shampoo
to the Rebbe
on Shabbos?
So,
when you have two
two chatzeiros next to each other, two
yards next to each other,
are you allowed to carry from one to the
other?
So,
we we hold that you're supposed to make
a ruv chatzeiros. And by the way, that
happens right now. When? We do it once a
year, erev Pesach. Mamesh it's all
coming together. It's all coming
together. So, Rebbe Elazar
You're right. He happens to be a talmid
of Rebbe Shimon, but he holds like
something else Rebbe Shimon said. The
Snan of Rebbe Shimon. Bo ureikha
mitzvah of Rebbe Shimon bar
Pay attention how much
a mitzvah in the right time is. Sha'arei
heikhal ha avodah
You could bring the imurim onto the
mizbeach the entire night.
Yet,
even though you could do it the whole
night, do it right there on Shabbos
b'mechallel Shabbos. Any korban you
bring on Shabbos like a a korban musaf.
So, you
You do You mechallel Shabbos. Why? Cuz
it's better to do it right then and
there than to wait until the night, even
though it's okay at night.
Says the Gemara of Rebbe Elazar Rebbe
Shimon, "Lo shamia."
Lo shamia le. What? Rebbe Elazar Rebbe
Shimon didn't hear this this halacha
that his own father said?" Lo shamia
Listen to this. Sha'arei dochsa shchita
Shabbos. So, the Gemara says a big a big
chiddush here that
the difference is when you already push
off Shabbos with your shchita,
then you can go ahead and and and and
bring [clears throat] the imurim onto
the mizbeach.
You already pushed off Shabbos. You
hear?
You already Shabbos already pushed off
with this cup. So, then you continue
pushing it off. But, by the omer to go
ahead and to harvest for the first time
on Shabbos, that that we don't have a
heter. Elo Rebbe, listen to this. Here's
the big bomb. Mamesh a bomb.
It's going to shake everything up here.
Elo Rebbe, tzira omer lo yidche Shabbos.
There is something a concept of pushing
off Shabbos for the omer, but not the
harvesting. Not the tractor going
through the field. Burning it on the
mizbeach is pushes off Shabbos. But, not
the harvest. Asks the Gemara three, four
questions now that are all the same the
same answer. V'lo What? Rebbe doesn't
hold that the harvesting pushes off the
Shabbos?
Even on Shabbos that three people
harvesting? Says the Gemara, "It's like
Rebbe. It says it's not Doesn't go
according to Rebbe. You're right."
Three boxes it says in the Mishnah. O
shlosh magalos. They have three sickles.
On Shabbos. It's like Rebbe.
O b'Shabbos.
It also says Yom elam Shabbos zu.
He's They scream. He screams. What
What's the gears I see they change gears
there. Omer elam ya. He says to the
people around, "Remember there's people
in the paranches."
They brought all the people to watch,
and they scream out.
Is it Shabbos today? And they say, "Yes,
it's Shabbos."
And they continue reaping. They They
harvest the field.
It's like Rebbe. Doesn't go according to
Rebbe. Nixter kosher. If it was
What do we do with this? It says that if
he harvests during the day, it's kosher.
V'doiche Shabbos. Now, we have a big
problem. Because it says that it pushes
off Shabbos, and you could reap it
during the day. That's the only person
who says that you could reap during the
day we have a machlokes. Rebbe What's
the machlokes? Rebbe and Rebbe Shimon
bar Yochai's son Rebbe Elazar. Rebbe
Elazar's son says you cannot reap during
Shabbos
uh during the day.
And Rebbe says you could reap reap
during the day. You could harvest during
the day.
But, the same line says nixter b'yom
kosher. You could reap during the day,
v'doiche Shabbos. It pushes off Shabbos.
We just said according to Rebbe, tzira
does not push off Shabbos. So, we have a
little bit of a problem.
It's like Rebbe. It's like Rebbe. Nixter
b'yom kosher. Rebbe. It's Rebbe. V'koton
doiche Shabbos. The same In the same
sentence it says it does push off
Shabbos. By the omer tzira. He's talking
about
harvesting. Lo yikrav. When he says that
it pushes off Shabbos, it's not
referring to the first part of the
sentence. It's referring to something
completely different. You're allowed to
harvest during the day, and you're
allowed to put it on the mizbeach
on Shabbos. Two different halachos.
By the omer tzira lo yi, but not You
can't harvest on on on Shabbos. But,
Tanya Rebbe Omer
The famous posuk.
In other words, what's the chiddush
here? All the all the yomim tovim that
the Moshe Rabbeinu was talking about in
in in in the parsha are all from Moshe
and from Hashem. So, what Why does it
say again
"Matai omer"? The pishcha
tamim of Pesach. We all know that the
korban tamid pushes off Shabbos and
tumah. And so, the korban Pesach also.
Mamesh unbelievable. Learning a lot
about Pesach recently.
She'nemar b'moado. It says by both the
korban tamid and korban Pesach b'moado.
B'moado Shabbos. B'moado tumah. From the
word b'moado I learned that it pushes
off Shabbos. It pushes off tumah. If the
kohen is tammy, it's okay. Keep on
going. Shakol b'moado says Rebbe Shimon
bar Yochai. How do you know other
communal korbanos
ain't lo tasu lashem b'moadeihem?
B'nai Yisrael Rebbe Shimon Omer
How do you know that the omer pushes off
Shabbos and tumah here? It says no
porsh. Omer pushes off Shabbos.
Tamo lomar Moshe miyadei Hashem. How
could it cover moyei d'kulam? That all
these korbanos the sh'tei halachim and
the omer are like the korban tamid that
pushes off Shabbos and tumah.
L'mai Let's Let's think about it. In the
middle of Shabbos. If it's talking about
put it on his back, it can't be why cuz
they
are going to do.
You don't put it on his back. They eat
it. So can't be talking about that. It
must be talking about harvesting.
It's talking about grinding and and and
and sifting. They are talking about
Sira. And may
it's talking about
harvesting for the for the iron.
Because
of course that the position of
us lie. I must say I'm in love with her.
We're talking about not not
not grinding and not harvesting. We're
talking about putting it on his back and
to bake it.
And we behold that when you put the
bread into the oven, they assume
by putting into the oven. Just like when
you put stuff into you put oil into what
happens? It becomes
when you put the bread into the oven,
they become like this.
Just putting in the oven makes it cover.
Oh. So since
we hold that putting in the oven becomes
a
dish.
We have
to pass the level you know.
So if Here's the big problem. If you put
the bread into the oven and if you bake
it
the day before, we have a major problem
because then it would be possible with
Lena. Therefore, you have to it's
you have to you have to do it today.
Again, why does baking push off because
if you bake it the day before you bake
it on Friday by the time comes around
it's already it's too old. It's
possible. It's Lena.
So pushes off us.
So
does really hold in fact that the the
oven gives to the bread
gives you
it says it's not the it's not the oven
that that gives what gives
the shafting the two sheep.
What's the what's the case? Listen to
this. It's very simple. Let's just say
about that. If you do anything right,
you do the and the
with the proper intent the small
perfect. If you do everything without
the proper intent the and the are
terrible. What if you do one and one? Do
with the proper intent but the are not?
So the bread is and not listen to this.
It's
just a lot of words. I wanted to explain
it about that.
It's like almost confusing with so many
words. You do the
you do the you do the the What's the
then that gives to the bread not the
oven. The
the are the
You
did both not good. That's the
complete opposite.
There's no dish. What if you did one and
one? The was
the was not
but the was not. It's
it's
it's and not good.
What do we see from here that the oven
is
is not
what's the bread? The
is the
says no. If you do half and half there's
nothing. You have to do both. You have
to do
and
and then the bread becomes good.
You see that it's the
it's the
and not the oven. You're
right.
The
the is
the
gives it a view. It tells you these
two breads are connected to these two
sheep. Now you can't change sheep. Can't
change breads.
They're connected. But what gives it the
to the bread is the oven.
That's what gives it the dish.
Says the mission.
These are the
that when you when you take
you go like this. You take three
fingers. You put that on his back but
all the rest
you can eat.
So here we have a list of the 10.
Let's see if we we recognize these,
right? We we spoke about them a lot. The
is The is
the
the is the same thing. It's just that
one is the same thing. Just one is the a
flat frying pan. One is a deep. So
there's more oil in the deep. It's the
same amount of oil but it stays longer
and makes it softer. Which
is important for later on in the
in three minutes that the
are kind of interchangeable.
The of a guy of
a woman is
what we're discussing that a lot now.
The
the the sinner he brings he has a carbon
of yarn. So says the mission.
These are the that the
the can get to eat the rest. We
said it all.
What's the
that's the one I didn't say. That's the
of the cider.
Interesting. Number seven and number 10
is the same picture.
Right? Let's see on the screen. Maybe it
has better
literally the same thing.
They are a little bit different. Oh, one
is smiling and one is not.
Oh, that her lips are different. Yeah.
What is going on here?
Okay.
They're sisters.
Um the
is the
is the is
You see I couldn't see that.
On my screen, I couldn't see the
difference. It's too small.
But here you can see now that I zoomed
in, you can see the lips are different.
Okay.
Uh the is
Oh, wow. We just hit the hour point.
Okay.
Not great.
The is
the is the
is the of a sinner
of a sinner.
You do the is the
cannot eat
the you have to put it on the back.
Let's just say this.
Anytime that we we talk about and we had
this twice already
but in in a slightly different
variation, there's always 10 as you
see on the screen.
What you counting the ones in the
mission? We know how to count. The
is
the is the Because
that you can mix up
four number four and number five. In
other words, if you promise to bring
uh the the you have a lot of you have to
do or do four and six
and or two and eight. You can mix the
two.
So now it's another number. It's its own
carbon. This one carbon is
one carbon is
and a third one is and
and and You cannot do it. says there's
only 10 on the list not 11. Have a
wonderful day.
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