CHAZARAH - Menachos Daf 104 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> I go to the new smash in the middle of the small high. Welcome welcome to all the guests. We're discussing how do you know that a milk could only be 60 is and not 61? So the more says because you can't mix it. That's the more the famous question is the famous he said in all of shots it comes from right over here. 78 lines from the bottom of Google on base. The key in the world and my hobby who cares? So you can't mix it. You don't have to mix it. But now we learned in the mission of our culture. You don't have to mix it. So you could even pile up 61 is 65 is and you don't have to mix it. Why do why from the fact that you can't mix it you tell me that 60 is the limit. I'm Arab zero color the pillow and pillow my cab is boy this is so we're using many different applications, but it it starts off over here. If you could mix it, then the mixing is not my active. The kosher the pillow pillow my cab is boy If you can't mix it then you have to mix it. And if you And that's why it's possible. But if you could mix it, then you don't have to mix it. Many many different uh many many different applications. Okay, good. I'm Arab baby I'm Arab and lady my sir boy sir I got it the my sir the period of should be sure Mesa There was a a mule that died the sheer of Mesa Dome of reviews. They said it's my time of my time. So to try to hear is my time of the right so the bottom we're going to see at the end. Lots of reviews this now We're holding five lines from the bottom. Hey baby show the baby show hey baby show baby show baby show Mesa I I'll dominate those the blood of a of a dead horse shoot tar it's tar not not Tommy. Baby show baby show Mesa my sir boy you know Karim are the right the right of the best star issue Mesa I'll just show you the video cuz I can't even explain it. Here. >> [music] [music] >> You can see a lot of blood through the most of a lot of blood. >> [music] [music] >> So they used to kill wild donkeys the right of the to to the lions the best star issue Mesa. My oil strike him out of the saying my dumb they would do so much blood of they would go up into their knee but they don't want them to over. The the oil you know that came from all over the stroll they would they would touch this reviews dumb it's more a lot more than a reviews and nobody said be careful of Toma. Is take baby didn't know what to say. I'm Arab Rico Rico tells him my time of there's a great answer I can make an answer it. Which we're going to see in a second. I'm a lady how could I? I'm Arab the whole you have the famous in the class boy you have the whole you have the is one thing over the line of is another is seven the third. It's three levels of poverty. The whole you have the whole you have the whole you have the is two of the show now. He doesn't have money he doesn't have any real estate he doesn't have a house but he buys he purchases enough wheat to last him for a whole year. That's he's very poor. The whole you have the whole you have the whole you have the is two of the show now show us last line on the base on Google on base. Somebody that purchases enough to eat from week to week it's a pack out you don't know what's going to happen at the end of the week you don't know if you're going to make money this week. About time of the higher call the show me call the palter Somebody who makes money from day to day he live not from month to month. A lot of people live month to month. He lives with day to day. If he's sick one day he doesn't have food the next day. He goes to the bakery palter and he and he he he buys whatever he can buy for that day. My God and me baby I'll palter show my I'm the worst of the worst. So it says in the more that a person who has tigers of parnosa or any kind of tiger he can't focus he's just not focused. My hobby a lot So at the end of the day what's what's the over here with this reviews of blood I'm Arab I'm Arab and lady I'm Arab was the the mayor of in the by the Nazi violin and he passed him like his own this now baby you don't know baby you like she should worry me cool by show me cool by show me so there's five things that six things that are the cool by show me cool by show me so dumb the way voice >> [clears throat] >> The show me my time of the show me my time of here by show me my time of so that's why this he said it's it's Tommy he went with the show me the cool by show me so I'm Arab I'm Arab and lady I'm a show me my time of the show me my time of reviews It's not star that's Tommy big whatever it has to be reviews why have you have a leak right now the size It could it could congeal and become the size of the size says daily mission Amos not in the way show me my time of the show me so here it goes get your papers ready this is my the amount of wine that goes together with a sheep is three look three bottles. With an aisle a ram four bottles they're getting drunker and drunker as it goes on. The cow is six. So you have three four and six communion God though gimme valid of lame is look system So if a person if a person makes an adult that he's going to bring one look it's not on this list out two look not on this list gone. Three it's perfect four great. Five I don't know what to do with six great. What about seven? What about seven the voice is seven? It's three and four three and four seven what about eight? Four and four What about nine? How do you get to 10 six and four and raise your paper six and four come out the voice I how do you get to 11 four four and three? Four four is eight plus three is how much 11 how do you get the voice I here's one last one write it down and pick up your paper no talking even if you don't have a pen how do you get the 13? You can't look at the at the >> [laughter] >> Okay 13 is this right over here six plus four is 10 plus three is 13 okay give out. 13 is a God though Is it God though oh God though thank you very good 13 is a God though. >> [snorts] >> Amos not in the way gimme valid perfect 13 is a God though gimme valid of looking ah works. Amos not in the way one is not on this chart it's not on the list show me no good the show me show no good. So we're going to sing the more about the five. I want to show me my time of the show me three four six perfect it's on our chart it works. I want to show me show them all the more though and anything above six you have a combination if it's seven it's three plus four. And it keeps on going. He boy though Yes Kevin and so I can my ain't Kevin and so I can simple question do they all have to be in one clay or you could divide it so He can dominate the more explains the question simple question is it oh it sounds like scary words simple question he can dominate what's in a few minutes like in what? Can go in the icy come show what if he brings five he says I want to bring five. The more is going to ask it says in the mission of no. Okay he have a saying Kevin and so I can if you cannot separate it you cannot divide it so now you have five you have to wait the the double sorry ain't Kevin and so I can means it's not Kevin and the clay you could separate it ain't Kevin you could separate it so you have five so what do you do you take four and you give it for the aisle kilo like it's for the aisle so it works four is good and now what do you do with the with the one that's left over it's a carbon it's a double for for carbon sea wood. The arms is Kevin and so I can but if you say that it's Kevin and the clay it's stuck in the clay you can't you can't move it you can't divide it you can't separate the five and like how do you until you get to six bring another bottle from home you'll have six then you can go. But five you can't do anything with you can't you you can't say oh five if I can bring four is a certain like you bring five. So let me take four and I'll put one on the side. No, it doesn't work like that. It's yesh keva, it's stuck in the cleat. Let me prove it. So, the way it worked in the base of migdash, you actually far us. You had these things in the shape of a shofar. It's the whole thing in the in skull and as you can see, number 13, 12, 11 says in the davar moiser asham, moiser nazir, moiser kinam, moiser asham, moiser chatus. And the rest are different. So people, they had different monies in their pocket. They had for different things. So they go to the pushka, they put it in the type of a pushka shaped like a shofar where it's hard to to remove money from it. You can't like do those tricks, you know, put a hanger in there and pull money. It's it's a it's a nice shape that's difficult to to steal from. So it says, shishim in the davar, six out of the 13 shofars are in the davar. All the ones from eight through 13 are in the davar. What I'm meaning connect in me. What are What does it say on it? Connect in moiser chatus. Or moiser asham moiser, or moiser asham moiser nazir. In other words, if a person set aside $100 for chatus and it only cost him 90, he takes the extra 10 and he puts it inside a special shofar called moiser chatus that's number eight. And if he has too much money for his asham, he puts in the shofar number nine. Or moiser asham nazir, moiser asham moiser tzipporim. Or moiser kinam, he has too much money for for the for the for the birds. Or moiser min chos chaitim, and too much he has left over for for for the sinners mincha. The meisa, but according to you, they have left over the takin shavach connect in moiser asham. If a person donated five and he's only able to use four out of the five cuz that stems with the ayil. So you take the the extra the the fifth one and you you put it in the special shofar. You should have another shofar for it. So it's a not a good rayo. Anything else goes to the tzibbur, but over here when you have extra wine, there's a lot of when do you bring wine? Anybody that brings an oil or shalomim has to bring in the sakhim, has to bring wine. So there's always extra, there's always things going on in the base of migdash. People don't have enough. So you'll be kim mitzarif right there and then. You don't need a special shofar for it. Kim mitzarif kim mitzarif by the other kariv, the the kariv. You could two people could join forces and they'll they'll use your one extra log. Omer Rava, tashma. Ezrach, the word ezrach min is not in the sakhim. You're permitted to just donate in the sakhim to the base of migdash. You allowed You allowed to donate oil to the base of migdash? Okay, we'll see. But wine, you definitely could to mishnah. We're going to see in the machlokes in the mishnah. Wine, you definitely could. But in the sakhim, the kama, what's the what's the amount? Shloshes lugim, three. If you want to do more than three, tam v'lomar year. It is keiv chatzi ayin. Year apart, year year. Yochol yifrois. Tam v'lomar kochi. You can't go letter less than three. Less than three is less than a kevas. You can't do less than this. You can't do less than three. Now, says Rava, let me prove it to you. Mayosef, what does it mean? He added over the three. Where Where do you go over three? Eila im arba v'shisha, he did four or six. Then what's the chiddush? If you could do three because it's on our chart, so you could do four and six also on our chart. Eila im arba v'shisha meishna shloshes kol as arba v'shisha kol ayil apart. They're also available. Ela v'chamisha, so must be yosef means an odd number. It's not a four, it's not a six, it's not for the ayil, it's not for a par. It's something in between. Then you could be makriv it by itself. Shma mino, it's perfect rayo. It has to be What does yosef mean? We wouldn't be referring to a four or sixer as a yosef as as adding cuz that's just as chashuv as a three. So yosef means something that's more than a three, but it's not it's not another number, it's not a good number. And nevertheless, you could bring it. Yosef it says. Omer Rashi, v'nainu l'sanochi. Wait a minute. What does it say in our mishnah? Don't forget our mishnah. The what? So you can't do one, two, or five. You can't You can't bring a fiver. Uktani chamisha d'mei shnayim, l'chora it's in the same sentence. Don't bring a one, don't bring a two, don't be misnadev two, and don't be misnadev five and it's in the same sentence. Mashnayim d'lo chazil klal, there's no option at all to bring a two. So the same thing for five. Av chamisha nami d'lo chazil klal, l'chora since it's in the same sentence, so two and the five are equal in terms of the halacha. Just like you cannot bring a one, you can't bring a two, so you can't bring a five. Says the gemara, no. Me deira, who told you? Hak idis idis. You can't bring a one or a two, but a five you could bring. And you bring the four out of the five, you bring as an adava. And the rest you you put on the side. Omer Rava, bayo. It is mislo min kevas in the sakhim, min kevas in the sakhim. If you take a hold that it's not it's not solid in the clea and you could break up a five, make it a four and a one. How you going to sell five? Everything is great. Indin meyashev in the sakhim. But, Raboisai, if you're stuck with what you have, ad asor upshitili. Until 10, I could get to 10. So Raboisai, you remember we did the 10 together, right? Eight is four and four. 10 is six and four. Indin meyashev in the sakhim, ad asor upshitili. Achad osam bayoli. What do I do with the 11? Av kudaran base. The what? So what is 11, Raboisai? Remember 11? How do you get to 11? Four four and three. Mebayoli, mai? Gar v'ishnayim karban. Maybe he means 12. Six plus six. So why do you say 11? So until you get to 12, you can't do anything. Or dilma, why? Cuz it makes sense if you think about it. How would you How would you donate? If you're donating something, you donating a bunch of bottles to the base of migdash, you do three, four, and five, you you start making some shug. You say, two sixers. Two fours. I don't know what. It like humans don't really mess around with different denominations. We could barely figure it out on ourselves. You have paper, four four three. So you're going to spit it out like that? You say, two sixes, 12. Gar v'ishnayim karban. V'ad im lo kariv. Or dilma ayil v'kevas Maybe takam meant two rams, which is eight, the kevas and another three, and it's 11. Shnayim v'echad mino, two from the rams. V'echad v'echad mino, one sheep. I mean in a loy. Do we say it like that or not? Takeo, am I takeo? Im misnadev ayil im misnadev shamen. Okay, Raboisai, it says in the mishnah over here you could donate wine by itself, but you can't donate shamen. Can't donate a bottle of oil to the base of migdash. You can donate wine. D'rei Rebbi Akiva. Rebbi Tarfon omer misnadev shamen, you could donate just oil. Omer Rebbi Tarfon, mamtzinu shuboch ayil. It's like a mamtzinu, a regular mamtzinu. What's a mamtzinu? We find this halacha over here, so we do the same thing over there. The what? Mamtzinu shuboch ayil u'ban adava. Wine could come both, together with a carbon and on its own. Choyev is together with a carbon. U'ban adava is by its own. Av shamen, so what's the difference? Av shamen shuboch ayil u'ban adava. Omer Rebbi Akiva, there is a big difference. Loy. Im amarta v'ayin, she can karvim choyev min ayil atzmo. When it comes to wine, you don't you never pour the wine together with a carbon. There's a special spot that you put the wine in. What is it called, Raboisai? The shittin. Oy. So let's do it again cuz it skipped over here. This one. No, this one. The shittin on top of the mizbeach, the two bowl-like things, and you pour the the wine in. And then there's like pipes inside showing you a x-ray of how those pipings that went in the walls of the mizbeach into the ama and out. But the wine was always separated from the korbanos. Taim avishamen shain ikarvim choyev min ayil atzmo. You don't put the oil separately. It goes together with the mincha onto the mizbeach. So that's why I hold that you're wrong. Shamen, you cannot donate by itself. Wine, you could cuz wine is an independent kind of product. Wine oil always goes together with something else. Ein shnayim misnadev min isar nachal. Two people cannot combine to to bring one mincha of an isar. Av misnadev oil u'shlamim, you they could combine to bring a carbon oil, a carbon shalomim, v'ayif and a bird, a feel preda even one out of the two birds. Omer Rava. Midivrei shnayim nilmad misnadev oil u'mincha isar b'chol yom. From the fact that Rebbi Akiva argues over here whether you could bring oil or not, it's only about the oil. But something that includes oil, flour, and wine, that I could say I want to bring that in this I want to bring that every single day. Every day I want to bring the Ribono shel olam a gift. So to speak, an adava. Shita. What's the chiddush? By the same mincha galil b'rachmana, hani chamisha mincha isin. Our thing is dafka these typical five minchas that the Torah says is machas, machashes, chalis, and rekikin. That's a typical, that's a regular mincha. Tzvei loy, you cannot bring in a which includes the wine and the oil and everything. Well, the oil and the other ones have the wine. This one has three lugam, it's a whole Tzvei loy kamatz malon hanamili bistama. What's By the way, what's missing from these five minchas? Anybody could tell? What's missing here? What is not part of the five minchas? No. Revucha. Revucha hanamili bistama. Aval heicha deparish, when a person says straight out I'm bringing in a mincha then he could bring in a mincha no matter what. Says the Gemara ancient mincha is not them. Two people cannot combine for flour. My ta'ama it says takriveyha, it says yachid. He should bring it. Or nami yachid, it also says yachid. Elo my ta'ama it says mikam it says mikam. Elo it says plural, it says plural. Mikol says plural. So why can't two people combine for one mincha? Element it says nefesh. Nefesh. Ta'an ami ochi. It's interesting. Here, I'll just continue Rebbi as yachid korban drayim voice kulachem. Chakal bon beshutafus anything. A shlamim oila you could bring in a partnership. Lo silka ela mincha shenemar nefesh. Says the nefesh. Amar Rebbi Yitzchak man ishtanis mincha shenemar nefesh? Why is it only a mincha that says the word nefesh? Amar Rebbi Yitzchak Mi darga mincha? Who brings a mincha? Who's so poor that brings a ani? Mal ani ki ikar nafsho he's giving his last last whatever he has, the last thing. And that that is a tremendous to give your your last food. If you're if you're ashir and you give I don't know $10,000 worth of steaks to to the mizbeach it's nothing compared to an ani that gives $1 worth of his last flour and this thing that's his nefesh. It's the it's the it's the last thing he has. Amar Rebbi Yitzchak wow. Man ishtanis mincha shenemar kamish minin al alu. How come mincha has these five ways of making it? Mashal basar vadam shasla avai suda. There's a melech that has his best friend made him a meal. Veyadeya she ani the king knows that he's very poor. Amar loy aseni min kamish minin kiday she arimemcha. I want you to to make five types of things I should have I don't know here. Five types. >> [music] >> Hi my old friend. Ho James. I mean your majesty. What can I possibly serve you? I have nothing but eggs in the house. Surprise me. >> [music] >> I don't know if they'll make with the fish in this one. >> [music] >> Scrambled, sunny side up, over medium, half and half, omelet. Your majesty, what would you like? The melech says make me five different things out of out of out of flour. It's a little shvach. Kiday she arimemcha. I want to I want to I want to benefit from you kaviyacha. Hadun alacha min haminchas mincha hadun alacha mincha mincha hadun alacha mincha mincha wow. The whole two beautiful. Ya boysai, have a wonderful week. Merit the zchus of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shiur today. mdy.sponsor.com [music] or sponsor.mdy.com