CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 99 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning live in Lincolnwood. We're holding on the bottom of the can you believe it and we're holding on. It's unbelievable. We're all familiar with the concept of bashishim bashishim and that's our soi here. This is what originates and we saw yesterday is it bashishim or meaning if you have let's say let's call this something trafe this cup is tra and it falls into ch if you have 60 cups like this that are kosher you're allowed to eat the ch even though one of the cups in it is completely trafe the other says if a hundred cups falling you need a lot more which is very interesting as going to point out that in the it says All you need in all these things is the majority. Majority is the smallest amount. It means 51% versus 49, you know, 51 versus 50 even. Yeah. 51 apples that are kosher, 50 apples that are not kosher. Boom. You could eat it. It's so this concept of saying 60 times amount is is is like it's like almost outrageous. But that's that's what we learn. Where do we learn it from? So to remind the we learn it from the forleg of a nazer meaning the nazer when he's when he's when he finishes with this whole process and they cut his hair and they shave it's a whole thing. They shave his hair. They put the hair underneath the pot of theim. So one of the things they do is they cut the front right leg hand of the animal and they give that to the cayenne as a gift. That plus the other stuff that they usually give. But here's something special. The zya it's called. What do they do with it? They cook that leg together with the entire animal. Who eats the entire animal? The owner. The nazu. Wait a minute. How could he eat it? The leg belongs to the kite. Cen food seeps into the rest of the animal as they're cooking the rest of the animal. You're not allowed to eat the food. You're not allowed to eat truma. This is the [snorts] whole thing. How you eating the leg? Cuz the Torah is telling you that's not a problem. You have 60 times the amount of animal this giant animal more than the leg. Every animal has 60 times the amount. The other mand says, "No, the animal has a hundred times the amount." So say, "So go measure it." No. One mand says, "I only measure the meat part of the leg and the meat part versus the rest of the meat in the animal is 100 to one." The other man says, "No, you got to measure everything, the bones, the senus. That's only 60." I'll show you real quickly what we showed yesterday to get you back into it because you don't really need to see it, but it's Gishmak. I thought it was very cool. So first of all you have this is if he puts the forle leg in first he cuts off the four leg but then he puts the entire body in and this is a problem because that entire goat is being cooked together with the for leg and the four leg is cayen's food. So you see bashish and the other one says no you put the whole animal in only later on do you cut it but here's the cool video I really enjoyed this part [snorts] where you see the four leg here in blue and then it shows you how the animal 16 times that for legac So then the Gumar asked a question. Here's a Gar if you don't want to look in. How could you learn to the rest of the this concept of from the fourleg of that's the whole question the word it says in the special how could you learn it out to the rest of the so what does z come to teach us what is it coming to exclude isn't coming to exclude the rest of the tyra no three answers I'm going to go through all three answers. But first, let's do answer number two. That's where we're holding. In other words, what we're trying to address, what is so special about the of the we don't have in the rest of the the idea that something that gives off flavor is something in when it comes to carbon you cannot be avat Over here you see the idea by the carbon of a nazer the leg of the nazer you are it's just flavor cuz usually you have an orange which gets mixed in with another 50 oranges another 100 oranges we say the 100 the one it's a full orange and 100 oranges but now we're not talking about an orange we're talking about the flavor that comes out of meat that's That's flavor and flavor. You can't be over here. We are usually flavor is also when it comes to that is the that's number two. So now we're doing what we call a freebie. We had this exact language yesterday word for word just on a bay ter now we're doing it on rais but once you see that flavor is not a big deal by a carbon by a carboner so let's use that idea by all carbonas why can't I learn that Tom is not by other says no there's a carbon that flavor imparted never becomes bottle. How do I see it? It says whatever touches the carbon becomes leosy becomes exactly like a katus. So you have you hear this you have a carbon schlomim which is a lighter type of carbon touches a carbon kas becomes like a carbus for the good and for the bad. In other words if the carbus is possible the schlom becomes possible. If the the is not possible then the becomes like a what does that mean that if you try to eat the theim usually you get two days to eat aim a katus you only get one day if the touches the just touches it boom becomes like a you can only eat it for one day why because it imparted flavor and you cannot get rid of flavor flavor is not oh so you know what the question is the same question we had yesterday we have on the one hand the tells us flavor you cannot get rid of. But we have the other puzzle. We have the puzzle by the that you could get rid of flavor. So why do we always say we go with the katas and not like the the why did you pick the you only get one day to eat it? Well asked the why did you decide to learn from and not from say that you could get rid of flavor? says like we said yesterday why is because the Tory is telling you to put the forleg into a pot together with a giant animal and don't worry it will be but you can't be something on purpose you can't take a piece of tray fat from an animal and put it into your child and tell your wife don't worry about it I learned in in dafi [clears throat and snorts] That's bashishim. It's okay. You can't do that. That's on purpose. On purpose. You don't do that. If by mistake a piece of fat fell off the shelf into your child and you're horrified, you run to the rub. The will tell okay it's fine. It's about right. You can't go and put it in there. But the ty is telling you put it into the pot. Take the four leg put it into the pot with a big piece of meat of the rest of the animal and it'll be bottle in 60 or buttle in 100. That's the How do you do that? So it's asked the same question we had yesterday. What are you telling me? You're telling me that I cannot learn the idea of from the carbon because it's a massive. So how we we started off the whole she saying that there's a is it or is it 60 or 100 and where are you learning from where where does it originate the whole thing from the wait a minute is you can't learn anything from you're right we're trying just to make here and is not a big deal learn from learn from to make it's easy. What does the P tell us we always go by the majority and you want to say it's not the majority you're going to go do times it by 60 which is a tremendous amount that's a tremendous meaning up until 60 everything below 60 is old trave so I can learn from this is check this out if you were here with us you remember the whole of the mother that has a fetus inside her stomach. You sh the mother, you get allowed to eat the fetus. Now, what happens if it sticks its hand out? You see, you got to look at these charts here. The animal sticks its hand out and then somebody comes and cuts it off. So the tells us that at the spot of the cut, even the part of the animal that's inside the body and you're going to be able to eat it without but the area that was cut that you can't eat. The place of the cut of the where you cut the forleg away from the rest of the ram. That place you would think is not you're not allowed to eat it. The Israel shouldn't eat it. It's considered that of the kind just like in the the stomach of the animal. What the place that you cut is considered like the like like a a place that you're not allowed to eat. So maybe in the for leg also you can't eat the place that was cut regular. Usually you say that the area of the cut you're not allowed to eat. It's like the of a cut of when you chop off the hand of an animal but the the forleg of a you're allowed to eat the area of the cut. So check this out to do of all three answers of the gar. What's the by the of the nazer here you have the cooking together with the rest of the meat of the animal. What's the problem? The problem is that the meat the rest of the aisle is for and this right is for so says is that usually it's the meat and meet one should not be able to the other according to when you have the same type over here it is we saw the the answer of rava the tam kaker over here it's it imparts flavor and by kachim flavor is not bottle over here it is and then finally we have raven who says that the area of the cut you're allowed to eat. Okay, he did it well. The area of the sh the it's the part of that the isrol eats but it has the area of the cut and is for the k. So maybe I would think that the area of the cut is also of the could eat the area of the cut. Okay. So now we move on to the next said over this of that you need 100 times the amount of kosher is it 60 or 100 he said over the 100 one says where do you get the 100 I'm going to show you a place where it says 60 where it doesn't say but you can it means 60 let me just say It doesn't say 60, but we know it's not 100. So, what is it? Says, "Oh, it's 101 versus 100, not 60." It still doesn't say anywhere 60. So, let's see inside. Do we see anywhere else this idea, the concept of [snorts] it's easy stuff. I'm telling you right now, easy. But we have words that cause people to to get nervous. Soon as you say the wordino, people get nervous. But what does mimino mean? It means meat and meat. Blood and blood. Eggs and eggs. That's means eggs with meat. Blood with I don't know what something else. So it says like this. When it comes to truma here this is to get you into the mood. Truma. If you have a piece of a piece of how do you say yeast? Yeah. Like a yeast of truma that falls into truma is the part that the k gets. Kany gets 2% of everything. His 2% fell into the into the regular Israel stuff. That 2% became yeast. So it's be we're going to see in a second. That's why he made it like go crazy. It's 100 times the amount. So he says it's if it's this yeast of trum and you have spices spices are very dangerous because dangerous I mean in terms of cashews they give a lot of flavor small amount a lot of flavor let's say you have a bunch of oranges of truma that fall into thousands let's say of when it's the So, let's remember this. What's worse, or what's worse? What's harder to make kosher? The same item mixed with the same item or two different items is much harder. How do I know? Look says never. He brought a ra yesterday from the bloodiper. Remember there's a lot of cow blood and the bull blood and there's very little uh goat blood and the k mixes together and yet the calls it the blood of the sawyer. It doesn't it's not. So check it out. It's very simple. When you have when you have the same type of of item of truma mixing in with you got to go. It's the worst thing there could be. So you go but if I want to do a or sometimes and the is going to explain everything it's very simple when it's two different items then sometimes I could be make also sometimes sometimes be okay and says at the end of it what's this we just mentioned how do you see a where do you see a of two different items You're making a ch the type of a bean. It's truma and it got cooked in with a dash with lentils. Another type of legume like a bean, but it's it's two different it's two different, right? It's split bean and lentils are two different. So if it gives over flavor even if you have 101 times the amount it doesn't matter. It gives off flavor. We saw the rashi the other day that if you could taste the trafe you could taste the problem then it doesn't matter how many how many times you have over there. You can have but bashish and bamea it doesn't work because I could still taste the flavor. We had like the hot pepper that fell into one hot pepper falls into tashel it's finished. Even a thousand you can still taste it. So [clears throat] even if it makes the the the whole but if it doesn't give all flavor even you have less than 101. Wait a minute. So let's stop here. Something that doesn't give a flavor and you have less than 101 times the amount. It's kosher. How many times the amount do you have? One, two, five? You tell me. It's either 60 or 100. Those are the only two numbers that we know. And it said it's not 100. So what is it? Said 60. So says here I see the concept of 60, not 100. And what's the Gar answer? No, it's 101 and 100. I don't have 101, but I have 100. That's what the Gar is going to answer. Because it doesn't say the word 60 here. last line. If it doesn't have 101, what does it have? Isn't it 60? So if you don't have 101, so what do you have? You have 100. It's good. So just a a short little sug. Well, wait a minute. You can't the ration and safe have to be different numbers and the why and the ratio is the more because y already told us that what's the worst thing that could possibly be when it's the same thing and that's the ratio we're talking about the same thing and the same thing is the 100. So when it's not the same thing it's less than 100 the worst the more most is the same item and that you need 100 to one ratio. So now let's go down let's take it down a step less is less than 100. So then how why are you telling me now that is 100 identical to the ratio which is the worst of the worst which is 100 it must jump go down a level to 60 because in the said how do what's the of doing the two foods that are identical? here. It's wheat. Truma. The the the leavenvening agent. Oh, that's what it is. Leavenvening agent of of this of this bread was truma fell into the dough of it has enough leavening agent to make it rise. Even if it has 101 times the amount, it's still awesome. Why? Because it gives the it's now if it doesn't have 101. So what does it have? Doesn't even have 101. So even if it doesn't have enough to make it rise and make it's still so if it doesn't have 101, what does it have? Has 100. That's the ratio. The ratio is talking about 100. So then the safa which is much le much much less of an is because it's min it's two different it's not wheat and wheat it's wheat and barley let's say so you have to take it down a level it can't be the same amount it can't be 100 just like the ratio how can it be that's the whole difference it's a little bit of a let down you think like wow we're going to drop down a lot no the is 101 because it's the bigra If it's 100 is enough. By the way, how do you get to 100 and 101? If a person has fruit, he has 100 fruit, he must give two of them to the kayen. That's called truma and 10 of them to the ley. So in other words, 10% of the entire produce he give to the ley. And the ley goes ahead and gives 10% of what he got to the that's trumiser. How much is that? 1% of the entire thing. Why? Let's do the math. He took 10 apples out of 100, gave it to the Levy and the Levy takes 10% of what he got and gives to the coin which is one apple out of the 10. So that's that one apple represents 1% of the entire initial thing and the Torah says over there some sort of lion about being whatever. So you see the idea of one and a 100. The one to the 100. Here let me just show you the video is he gives 10 to the ley and the ley is going to take from his 10 apples and give one to the so that one apple represents one out of 100 and that's where we see the idea of so they ask then when you get to 101 there's a whole bunch of answers. Okay. If this uh this uh leavenvening agent it could it could create so how come it doesn't become but in 101 says rashi over here could it be that powerful it's that powerful that it overcomes 101 times its amount says He didn't know what to answer. Why are you being quiet? Maybe levvening agent is very powerful, especially this particular one that Yeah, it's able to to overcome and and you could taste it even in 101 times that amount. You're right. You might be right. You just reminded me something. Not everything, not every food has the same power. You need 200 to overcome the the brine of fish. And to get the to the the the reaper, you need two million to overcome it. It's not if you have brine of a non-cooser fish. Listen to this. saw a s you hear this one reve so that's the end of the suga only for those who want to be entertained and like math I'll show you the but otherwise you don't have to know this really because a lot of people get nervous from these numbers and once you say it's just cool I'll say it real quickly you look on top the sak stands for the saw How many? The next one is a sav. You see on top. How many are in each saw? You go to the bottom of it. Six. How many log are in each calav? You go to the between the cav and the log. Four. So it goes like this. In every saw you have six cav. In every cal you have four log. So how many log do you have in every saw? 4 * 6. How much is 4 * 6? >> 24. >> 24. How do I know? Because 2 * 6 is 12. So 4 * 6 is 24. Now we're talking about two saw. [clears throat] So 2 * 24 is how much? >> 48. Even in panovage, we knew that 48. How many quarters are there in 48? 48 * 4. >> So I'll tell you how you do it in Panovich. It's very very simple. You pretend 48 is 50 and you do four * 50 is how much? >> 200. >> But it's not really 50. It's you have to take off two from every 50. So you have to take off eight. 8us 200 is >> 192. Oh, so that's what he says over here. Reas a quarter in sim in 200 in 198 in this seir this brine it's one quarter in 192 times the amount in other words 200 times the amount 192 is close enough to 200 so here I see that the brine brine you need 200 okay we're done with that you don't have to know more math I just thought maybe you'd want to hear the ask the gimar are a bomb question. What do you want to do? You want to be the the seir, the brine of a fish in fish. But guess what? That's how could say such a thing is famous for saying y said this before even a thousand. You can't be forget 200. A thousand is not. So how could you ever be mat the se the brine of a fish? Says the gamar is Here I have a Galdica video to show you the brine. It's just sweat meaning how do you get this uh you pour some salt on it. You see in the video he takes a salt spray. He goes instead of putting on himself suntan lotion he puts it says on it. It looks like a suntan lotion bottle. He goes I just want to explain what the video is. Took me two times to it's flying. So he sprays in himself some of salt that causes him to sweat. But that sweat is not fish. When a human being sweats, is that is that human flesh? No, it's a sweat. It's not part of his body. You don't count it as as part of a fish. Okay, we're almost done here. Newya, we spoke about the you cooked it in the thigh. The thigh is something that you're allowed to eat. The giranosha is awesome and to eat. Does the flavor of the giranha impart is into the rest of the meat? Depends how much meat the mission says. The Mishna says a very it's almost complicated. You pretend that the gir is meat. And how much meat do you need to impart flavor to a lef. How do you say lees? Turnip. No. >> Yeah. Turnip. You pretend that this giranha this senue is actually meat and then how much meat do you need to impart flavor to the turnip? What part of the turnip are we talking about? So it says rashi. We're not talking about the actual turnip. We're talking about the leaves coming out of the turnip. Those are much sweeter than the actual turnip. And therefore you need much more meat to give it flavor. And here that's it from here to the bottom of the is like a one idea the what the tells you that you have to have more meat less meat that's because that t holds that there's flavor in the gan and that's why I need x amount of meat to overcome that flavor. Let's say there's zero flavor in the gan. What would be? Zero flavor in the ganha. And you cooked meat with the giranha. What would happen? Nothing. You take the gan throw into the garbage and eat it. Nothing happened. There is a that says that doesn't have a flavor. In fact, we doesn't have a flavor. So our whole mission is not like sorry says the gid the sciatic nerve doesn't have any flavor at all and therefore you just throw it out after you cooked it and you can eat the meat as long as you don't eat the gan. But before you go around thinking that the giranha doesn't have flavor, you can cook it with the giranha. So you need to see the last rash I'm going to show you. Super [clears throat] important. Don't pass in anything based on say oh. So somebody came to somebody [clears throat] came to ask and was was hiding by the door. Whoever came out to ask the question he comes out says what did he passing about you get he said it's okay do me a favor go back ask him again so he went back to ask who's who's hiding by the door and telling you to come back in he's he's he's giving me pain above Tell the guy that's standing by the door, the person, the Tana, whoever it is that's standing by the door. I hold like the is how we pass. There's no flavor imparted by the Gid. And therefore, since you cooked it with the G, it doesn't make a difference. Just throw out the G and eat the meat. He sent him to he said listen you have a problem with go to he's he holds his and he got this not from from this is unbelievable it's enough the reason why he sent because himself didn't hold of this but you should know says Everything we learned in the mission, all these that we had about a gid and how much do you need meat to overcome the flavor, it's all because you hold the G has a flavor. But we pass. Look at that gimmel on the bottom right there. This is how we pass it. That uh G does not impart flavor. So therefore, if you cook it with a G, it's not a problem. But says Rashi, there is a problem. It doesn't matter how you cooked it. how you roasted it, how you salted it, you just toss away the meat, says only the what about the little piece of flat fat that I showed you in the video showed there's a little piece of flat fat right above the touching the if you left that in now you're in trouble because that of course gives off flavor fat gives flavor senus don't give off flavor flavor according to this and if you didn't get rid of the fat. So don't tell people you know the you learn and so so what if you cooked it it's not a problem. Yeah if you cook the alone it's not a problem but if you forgot to remove the little fat that's on top of the second problem of fat that's also raisful day. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.