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CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 98 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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- Good Morning - Introduction - 97B - 98A - 98B - Have A Wonderful Day -- MDY presents: "Nothing but the Daf", R’ Eli Stefansky’s MDY (Mercaz Daf Yomi) Shiur in a concise format - all the clarity of the full daf Shiur, with Reb Eli's unique charts and visual aids, without any extras (emails, stories etc.) Perfect for Chazarah or anyone who wants a quick, focused Daf.
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Good morning.
We're holding four lines from the bottom
of
I want to remind that before we start
had a name that it's one of the hardest
in I'll remind you that it's one of the
easiest mass
and yes we have some dapim that are I'm
not going to call them difficult but
some of the ideas and the concepts in a
little leag but the whole last week
every daff we had a half dafaga half
inim half daff this
we have we're basically finishing up a
we have like three daf of
but it's easy stuff it's nothing to get
excited about.
So
you have an egg.
So we're talking about
you have one egg that's a no no goodter
egg
and you have 60 good eggs so they
overcome the bad egg and therefore
you're allowed to eat the whole thing.
Well, we're going to see a fascinating
thing in the sug
when it comes to eggs, eggs are
different than everything else. Comes to
eggs, you might need 61 eggs to to one
bad egg. 61 good eggs to one bad egg.
Why is an egg different? We'll see.
Oh my.
What's going on here? You have an egg
like in this picture.
Why do you need 60 good eggs to overcome
that one egg? Because the egg imparts a
flavor comes out. Whatever is inside the
egg is going to come out. Now, we know
when you make a ch and you put an egg
in, the egg receives a flavor. It
receives the color. It turns brown. It
might I don't know. I never really taste
the chunk in it, but it receives.
But who says that it goes out from the
egg, from the tra egg out into the other
eggs?
There's a saying, a famous saying. If
you want to tell your wife that her cha
is terrible, that her that her soup is
nothing, what are you going to tell her?
You say your soup tastes like egg water.
Meaning, if you cooked a bunch of eggs
and there's water, there's nothing, no
flavor in that water. Your food is so
bad. is like egg water. That's that's
the saying people say.
We're talking about an egg that has a
little chicken inside. Oh, check this
out. This is not AI. This This is real.
Okay.
So, since it has a little chicken
inside, that little chicken is is an
avail. You can't check it. It's not. So,
it's an aa. It imparts flavor. The meat
does impart flavor. Yeah, you're right.
People say that eggs don't impart
flavor. They don't. But if the egg has a
little chicken inside and that little
chicken is an avail, that meat gives
flavor to the rest of the tapel. So now
I have to be with 60.
But what about an egg that that comes
from a
eagle? A tom bird? No.
In other words, if the egg is that of an
eagle without a little eagle inside of
it, just an egg.
If you cooked
eggs from a chicken together with eggs
from a eagle,
if
the tummy eggs give off a flavor, the
whole batch is also. So you see that
eggs of a tummy bird do give off a
flavor even without a chicken inside,
without a a bird inside.
You're talking about an eagle egg that
has a baby eagle in it. And that's why
it's
so why do you call it a egg if it has a
little bird inside it?
We're not talking about an eagle with a
baby eagle inside. We're talking about a
chicken egg and it has a chicken inside
it and it's called tom because it has a
chicken inside and a dead baby chicken
is an
doesn't fit in.
It says right away in the it says in the
end this case that if you cook eggs and
you find a chick inside of one. Oh, so
now we're talking about a case that you
found the chicken side. Before you
weren't talking about that case,
if it has if it gives a flavor, it's
also
so if in the safer we we came up with a
new case of a egg that has a little
chicken inside. Obviously, the first
case is not talking about an egg that
has a chicken inside. So why is he
telling me it's talking about a case
that has a chicken inside? says both
cases are one or the same. There's no
racial and saf
impart flavor the whole batch is also
okay. What's the case?
You cooked them. You opened one up and
you were mortified and horrified. You
found a little cooked chicken. Tiny
little chicken. Disgusting.
So
that makes the entire batch.
And it also makes sense
because if you think
that the
that the racial is talking about that
there's no chicken side.
It's talking about a a tummy bird. Let's
say
so what's the if a chicken if a egg
without a chicken side is to
from a tommy bird is certainly an egg
that has a developed chicken side and
it's dead. It's in the veil. Of course,
it ruins the food.
No, that's not a great
ratio. The s is only coming to explain
the ratio.
You shouldn't say
that the ratio is talking about that it
has a little chicken inside. But if it
doesn't have then even an egg of an
eagle would be
that's why I do say this has a chicken.
So I can say that there's no way to
force me. There's no way to force me. I
don't have a right from here.
Don't say that we're talking about in
the just an egg from an eagle that
doesn't have a little chicken.
I'm sorry.
It has a little chick. But if it's a a
tummy egg
that doesn't have a little chick,
that's why it does say in the boyfriend
that has a chick.
So don't tell me has a chick. No does
not have a zero.
And even so it is
story.
Let me just make sure here we use from
yesterday which I didn't show in the
English here.
You have a piece of fat. Here's a piece
of fat that fell in too.
This is just yesterday shared that you
use the the pot to make it 60. Okay. But
it's anyways the
fat
fell into a pot of of meat like you see
in this picture.
So wanted to use the 60 60 times the the
fat
and he wanted to also include what went
into the walls of the path. In other
words, how big is this piece of fat? One
z. Okay. Now, we started off in the pot
with 60 kazum of meat and gravy and
everything. But five kazum went into the
walls of the pot. Five out of the 60
went into the walls. So, how many kazum
do you have left in the path? 55.
55 kazim is not enough
to overcome that one piece of of
terrible fat that fell into the path.
You need 60. Oh, but if I use the five
that are in the walls that were absorbed
in the walls, then I'll have 60. So
wanted to say I use those five.
said,
"What about the actual piece of that's
now that fell into the pot? Wasn't it
like two when it fell in? It also cooked
up in there and part of it went into the
walls. So the is much greater. Maybe you
need you need 110 or 120 km." Why?
Because the the fell in was two kaz. And
now you found one cuz it cooked out.
We're not going to go what you used to
have kosher before cuz then you have to
say what you used to have user before.
Let's look at it what we have right now.
Right now you have 55 kazim kosher one
kaz not kosher. You don't have enough
kazim to overcome the non-coosher.
Forget about what happened yesterday and
how much went into the walls. That's
what they told him.
Only a half a fell into the pot. We know
that in order for it to be
right now you need a full
only half only half a kaz would
be a problem
into a pot of meat.
the son of the we had him yesterday.
He wanted to use half of what you
typically use. Usually if you had a half
a kaz that fell in you need 60 times
that. So how many how many kazim you
need? You need 60 half kazum or 30 full
kazim for one half of a kaz of of
you have one part is you need 60 parts
mut to overcome it. So you have a half a
gaz you need 60 half kazum but he wanted
to use 30 half kazum he want to be make
he says
half the regular amount
was upset
didn't I tell you
didn't I tell tell you not to put down
and say, "Oh, it's only you don't need
60. 30 is enough. It's not nice." If you
say 60, you need so you need 60 for
and another thing.
You're thinking that a half a
is
and I'm telling you a half a is
according to why because it's a half a
half is half of
I love this. It's great for it's
terrible for people that are taking
these tests
and the son of said
he said that said he was the son of
Omari
he said in the name of Ley the son of
Omar
I'll give you 10,000 MDY points if you
can repeat these names
I'll say it again.
First I have to know how to say it.
And finally, what's his name?
If you have one bad egg,
in order to be able to eat the whole
food, even though one bag, one bad egg
fell into the path, you need 60 to
overcome it. But it's not clear what
he's saying. Do you need a total of 60
plus the one bad egg, which is a total
of 61, or do you need a total of 62?
need 61 good eggs and one bad egg to
overcome the one bad bad egg.
Let's see inside. Could you decipher
this? Could you understand from his
words? And the answer is you can't
understand.
Well,
we'll see.
Seems like you're already coming to
to be to be
they weren't able to figure this out.
A lot of names here. They said in the
name of
An egg if you have 60 against it is no
good if you have 61 it's okay
they ask right away
is it 61
in addition to the one bad one so total
of 62 eggs one bad egg 61 good eggs
which is a pela We always said one and
60 on the other side. Not 61 on the
other side.
So to understand what's going on here
and we're basically done, but just to
understand that the sh brings
from the mab
that there's as far as to say that eggs
are different than everything else in
the world. Why? Cuz if you ever go to
the store, they sell large eggs and
extra large eggs and small eggs. So all
eggs are different shapes and different
sizes. So if you're going to use 60, you
might not be let's say the egg that fell
in is a extra large egg and you'll be
using some of your eggs that you're
using for the 60 are small eggs. So it's
not really shishin. So what do they say?
They said and when you once you get to
60 t 60 good ones add one more for good
measure. It's only in eggs.
There are those who say no.
He also brings in the name of the Rambam
is because an egg is a burial. It's a
full item.
So because it's a full thing, it's a
berry. You need a little one more.
What's ankamina?
If your egg falls into many other eggs,
then you could use the sh thing, the the
original from the that because it's eggs
and they're all different shapes. Add
one egg.
But what if according to the egg fell
into no one egg in a bunch of ch
is easy to see that it's 60 times the
size of this one egg? Because it's a
different item. It's not eggs. It's not
eggs versus egg. It's ch versus so all
you need you don't need to do is 61 60
that's the between the two far as the
raam and the
come to conclusion
and you seem to be saying
that it's 60
and and all you need is 60
Sorry that you need 61
to the one.
If the total is 61 eggs, 60 good, one no
good.
But if it's 62 total, in other words, 61
good, one no good, it's
fine.
So it seems like this was before
instituted the idea the concept of
that's a daon idea came later generation
somebody wanted
to be mat with 55 45
not 60 45. She says, "How could I do it
if my father didn't wasn't my vat with
47 had 47 good eggs, one bad egg and and
Rabbi Rebi didn't didn't do it,
the son of Rebi? Rebi didn't do it. So,
how could I do it for 45, which is less?
say
so went down now my father didn't even
do 45
the didn't do 45 so how could I do 43 co
kosher and and one trave later on they
institute it has to be 60 not 43 not 45
not 47 60 or there's a even that says
100 which we're going to get to
Oh,
I need 30 to be one and 30.
This guy comes and he says, "Look, he
comes." He says, "I have 30, let's call
them eggs, or 30 times the flesh, the
meat in the ch and one bad piece of what
what should I do?" So, he says, "Ah, you
don't even have 30." In other words,
you're wasting my time. Why did you come
here to bother me? The sh is 60. You're
coming here for 30. Come on.
Oh, so finally we get to the thing and
this is all from the side. So for the
rest of when we say we're going to come
back to this right over here
this is where the source of all these
and this is this is one of the main
it says over here five lines from the
bottom of the
debut I just want to show you a rashi
real quickly it's in the middle line of
the three lines in the middle of the of
the of the sentence.
In other words, in middle of the line of
the middle line,
we're at check.
In other words, if you have 60 good, one
no good, but you could taste the flavor
in the 60 good
doesn't work here. It only works when I
can't when I can't taste it. But if I
can taste it, doesn't work.
What's the 60 business? It's 100. Okay.
We pass in 60 one. But over here we have
number two. It's 100. What's Why does he
say 60? He says 100.
We learn it out from the fore leg of a
nuzzle. This for leg, the front
hand of an animal, the right side goes
to the kite. The rest of it goes to the
Israel.
But let's say if you cook this right
hand together with the whole body and it
only goes to the right hand that means
part of the right hand the flavor of the
right hand which is kuna should go to
the kayen went into the entire aisle
went into that whole ram that you saw
sitting in the front seat with the with
the seat belt the flavor went into
everything and the says it's okay the
could eat it so we must say the is
because the whole ram is 60 times more
than the four leg or 100 times more than
four leg. So that's how I have two
sheetas that say one says 60s but vat
and the other one says 100.
We could continue if you want just
explain that part. Why 60? Why 100? Cuz
one counts all the bones
in the four leg. It's very bony very
little meat. And the other one doesn't
count the bones, just the meat. So
you're just counting meat versus the
rest of the body of the animal. The rest
of the body is 100 times the amount of
meat in the fore leg. The whole bottom
part of the for leg doesn't have any
meat at all. It's all bones and su top
has a tiny piece. It's 100. So that's
how I learn either 60 or 100. So let's
see inside two lines from the bottom.
We learn from the forleg of the
now but the nazer gives you know the
shik but he also gives the
the
fourleg
what does bash mean? So you say means
the cooked
it means that it's whole.
So says I don't know what language this
comes from but there's a language that
the word means whole. Okay does have a
mahal. So here we go.
We're not even going to finish this
small because tomorrow is a very small.
How many were we holding? Oh, 46
minutes. We're good. So, in 10 minutes,
we should be finished.
What does mean you cook the four leg
together with the entire ram?
Everybody agrees
according to this that the forleg is
together with the whole animal.
Do you cut the leg, the four leg, and
then put it into the path together with
the whole goat?
Says, "Do you put the whole goat into
the pot and later after you cook it, you
cut the four leg off or do you cut the
forleg off and then you put the four leg
into the pot together with the whole
goat?" Here we have a little video if
you want to see.
First you put the for leg in and then
you put the whole goat in, but it's in
the same path. In other words, everybody
greases in the same pan. Over here,
you're putting the entire with the four
legs and everything into the pot. Put
your hands in there. Make sure they get
burnt a little bit boiling water.
And another is no.
Everybody agrees that first you cut off
the four leg and then you then you cook
it.
In what pot you cook the fourleg
together with the goat with the ram
used two different here let's see we
have a video
says in the same path
Or it's in two separate paths. That's
the
one path. No, he pauses. No other.
Great.
Oh.
So stop right here. This mand that we
just saw that you put the forle in one
path and the rest of the goat in the
other path. We're not going to learn
anything from him because there's no BL
over here. The four leg goes to the
cayen and it's cooked in another pot.
It's only
a that we 60 by 100. If you cook the
fourlegg together with the goat and who
eats the rest of the goat is but it has
a bunch of cayenne meat in it. But
that's only if you cook it in the same
pot. Who says you cook it in the same
path? Well, the first shot
everybody holds it goes in the in the
same pot. The second shot
holds goes in the same in the same path
but one of the other doesn't.
So let's see inside
I can learn
according to everybody because you're
cooking the coen's forle in the together
with the ram in the same pot.
I could only learn.
So what's the difference between 60 and
100? Why does this say it's 60 and this
says 100?
I got to use everything to figure out.
So when you talk about a four-legg, how
many four legs does a typical ram have?
60 in his whole body. Take a look.
That's the four leg you give to the
kite. Just a straight up, not not with
the shoulder.
Take a look what happens. Boom. The rest
of the animal 60 times that one. So from
here I learned the mus of
60 to1 ratio. I need 60 m to one.
The other mandar holds it's 100. Why?
Because I'm not using any bones, only
the meaty part. Look at that. The blue
is on top. The bottom doesn't have any
meat at all.
It's one to 100. Beautiful.
You only use me to
ask.
How could I learn to the whole the
concept of
100 from this from this fourleg
this is a special that the says I'm
allowed to put the forleg in the same
path as the whole animal that's going to
be eaten by it's a special
what does it mean what does it come
do not learn out from here to the rest
Don't get nervous. Don't have a trauma
means meat and meat. It's the same item.
It says Yehuda. If I cook tra meat with
kosher meat, you can have a thousand
times the kosher meat, a,000 pounds of
kosher meat and one pound of non-coosher
meat from the same animal. From the cow,
let's say meat and meat, doesn't matter.
me to meet it doesn't help the thousand
doesn't help but the over here is that
does help even though the four-legged
meat the rest of the ram overcomes it
how 60
it's a
I don't understand. Isn't this a great
raya from here
says that when you have meat, one pound
of meat, a,000 pounds of kosher meat
can't overcome it. It's the same type.
If it's the same type, you can't. Only
different types.
Shouldn't Rebu learn from this that the
same type as long as you have 60 more in
it? There look a can eat a ram even
though it has meat in it. So you see the
Torah is telling you
the takes the blood of a bull. A lot a
lot of blood. I forgot already how many
liters and liters of this blood a bull
has and mixes it with the blood of a
goat. The sar right the sar that we one
one goat goes off the cliff one the
second the partner that that got the
name go stays there the question is
shouldn't the blood of the battle the
calls it is if it's still there so you
see
is it doesn't it doesn't disappear it's
still called still called the blood of
the goat
has from the blood of that if it's the
same type of item blood and blood they
don't become bottle and that's why he
learns from there doesn't become on the
other hand he could learn also from this
the and the and the ram the roy and the
ram are the same type and they are but
the the whole ram the whole is but the
ram so why does He learned from blood
and not learn from. He can learn from
both. He decided to learn from blood
that it's not. He should learn from that
it is.
Why does he learn from blood? She
learned from the
this idea of
the Torah tells us typically speaking if
you have a piece of
you don't tell somebody put it in the
parach don't worry about it has 200
times the amount they'll be bottled you
don't do that you're not allowed to do
that if it fell in after the fact you're
allowed to eat it but you don't tell
somebody you don't tell your wife put
the in is bottled by 200 But the is
telling you put this into the same pad
as the because it's going to be
if you're not going to learn the
so why are you learning that 60 and 100
we said the whole concept of 60
was 60 or 100 comes from don't learn
anything from it
I'm using it just to be more than a
bottle. Typically speaking in in in 51%
is enough. I don't need 60 times the
amount. I need 1% more.
So I'm making a saying that you should
use 60 over so that I could learn from
this Royai.
Have a wonderful day.
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