CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 58 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] We're holding eight lines from the bottom. Supposed to look if you could see with your eye then it's a problem. Yeah, you got it. Eight lines from the bottom. When the an animal lives for 12 months, you know that it's not a tra. So the this is what we're going with this assumption. The entire 12 months 12 months says where did you get it from? Who told you about this 12 months? If in other words you have to do the reverse. If a female animal gives birth, you should know she's not a tra. If this animal is getting bigger and stronger, you know that she's not a tra if it's uh what's the word? Withering. Um withering. Is that a good word? If it's if it's getting skinnier and and and weaker should know this animal, you wait 30 days, it could last for three years, says the Gmoro. So that's the So really that if an animal is a tra it usually won't last x amount of time but what if it does it doesn't make it not a trava it's still a trava it could last for 10 years but it's a trava you're not allowed to eat it says this this not this of 12 months is actually I'll remind you the picture that was from Kalashan. This picture Kalashan who gave us to use all their pictures. So if there's a hole in a skull the size of a drill bit, whatever size that is, it's strafe. So if you have a bunch of little holes that together they add up to the drill bit or it's a long one, a lot of small ones, they combine to make one drill bit. There's a story in that a guy got a hole in his head. So they made him a a helmet out of a pumpkin. Where are you bring me from? A guy with a helmet. That was in the summertime. Come visit him in the winter. Let's see if he survived. In other words, here we see the concept of the 12 months. He cannot survive 12 months. Here's the you ask me where is there who says the of 12 months? We have 30 days. We have this. No, here it is. Two months. So says the remember this. We're going to have him on. We had many times in gives us uh in fact holds that a animal a female who is a can give birth. It's not a problem and it could actually gain weight do better but it's nevertheless a tra Oh no I skipped I skipped bottom bottom of the last words. Yeah. Yeah. Last words in all it honey be in the chicken at any given time I think there's 21 whatever is like larger every day and one egg comes out I think something like that and uh so I heard places two eggs a day one egg every but yeah let's say one a day and there's like let's say 20 undeveloped eggs in there so when the mother chicken is a trava Let's say uh a weasel came and grabbed it by the neck made it a trava. So what about the eggs? All these eggs that we saw in there, whatever. There's different pictures here. These eggs or these eggs, they're all in there, right? They're all So let's call it 21. 21 days of eggs you can't eat. Why? Because we we know the concept the the fetus in a in a cow in a sheep is like the mother. So if the mother is strafe the heart is strafe. If the mother is strafe the fetus is strafe. So to buy a chicken if the mother is trafe all the eggs are trafe. But what about eggs that were produced after she became a traf. That's a beautiful unbelievable incredible the eggs the future eggs even though they come from and if you come from Oser you are asser whatever is produced from user is asser but since there's a male involved there so it's 50% the male 50% the female or whatever percentage you want to give to it but it's ze it's two it's two and one of them is on So to me it was a big why because the egg is a egg. This egg is coming out regardless if there's a male or not and it's going to be the same size and it's going to have maybe the same taste even. I don't know what the taste is but usually yeah egg is egg. So because the male fertilized it all of a sudden it becomes it's like a kilo 50% is is attributed to to to the male which is big. It's a big to me and he gives it a hatter. We're going to see later it says that everybody agrees the egg of a why is what does godlaw anybody speaks Hebrew mean it grew up in Iser. In other words, it developed in Iser. So what do you see? You see that even that you even though you have a male and zeim it's still grew up in Israel says no no no what happened was it's not there's no male involved that's when a chicken lays an egg without a male from the heat of the earth in other words just laid an egg like today in all the egg factories what do you mean there's no there's no males they tried they don't want a male there it's better if no males A chicken can lay an egg. We said the first words on the when the the first batch of eggs of 21 eggs whatever don't use. Why don't you say that that's what's assur when the chicken had 21 eggs in it then became a traa that's those are the eggs that are assur but everything after that is mut says you're right that's great but it doesn't fit into the wording in glo the word is no good means that it grew up with it that the end okay fine so the word doesn't fit in that it started out from scratch and it's still awesome 20 lines of a freebie here. So if you don't get it now, you'll get it later. But to learn it now, it's easy. Says it says in this you have a sheep that has a little baby in it, but the the mother is a lion pounced on it in the safari and and out comes. Are you allowed to use the mdash? So we have what's the source of that? So over here is going to say that first she became tra then she got pregnant. So what's the real since there's a male involved there? It doesn't matter. We don't care. The bottom line is the the Vlad is also no there's a male 50% goes to the male let's say 50% the female you can bring it to the why because this animal yes it's 50% but 50% it's not it's good ask question I don't understand why are you telling me a case about bringing this animal to the mdash here in Austria can you eat a sheep rib steaks whatever it is a cow that was a tra got got attacked by a lion and had offspring that offspring could you eat it in Austria nothing mdash the same can you eat the offspring of a tra it's you have a male involved there maybe it's or maybe no I holder but at the end of the day it's the offspring of a maybe it's nothing to do with the b mikdash says You're 100% right. The same applies in our days without md and it applies in the md. I rather talk aboutd because there's an awesome here to tell me that there's a there's a that holds even though there's a problem always if you're not going to give this animal to the ruler of your city don't bring it to to the but holds you to bring it to the mdash. It's not a brown to bring in the B mikdash even though it is the mother is a tra to the mdish you allow to bring it of course you allow to eat it in Austria that's the you're right I could have said is in Austria I don't want to talk about I want to talk about in the says but we could say a reverse but in America in Switzerland listen to this for somebody to say, "Oh, it's awesome. Are are you allowed to eat this?" No, it's awesome. You allowed to do No, it's awesome. That's easy. Everybody could do that. I can also do that. The is to know the so well like to go into the to the details and to know how the radio works and listen that and then say you know what that's oh that's that's a big it's much more powerful says to to make something is a lot is a lot harder than making something. So that's why I want to talk about the rather than the says and every this is the we brought before and everybody agrees an egg laid by a chicken that is a when it came by itself without a male when there's it's only the female that that gave birth to this then it's also if there's male. So bey says, "Now we're going to repeat the whole again with a few small variations, but it's basically the same the same back and forth. I told you to remember on the bottom of over there says that a trades an animal that is a tra is possible for it to give birth. Therefore, a chicken that's a tra it's possible for her to lay eggs goes well because a tra could could lay eggs even after she's a tra. problem is not the problem but raven argues on that last line any that an animal that's a tra can't physically give birth a chicken that's a tra can't physically lay eggs therefore he has to say this whole differently that what same idea but slightly different literally we're going to go 20 lines now but he sticks in the word suffic instead of you have eggs of a suffic a weasel might have bit its head might have not we don't know suffic so what do you do if it's a tra it cannot give birth it can't can't lay eggs so what do you do the first 21 eggs in its stomach all this stuff here these guys these guys all these eggs you you wait you wait you put in the refrigerator you If later on she lays an egg after 21 days, let's call it, she lays an egg, then everything became how could she lay an egg if she's a tra from the fact that she laid an egg? That's our that she's not a tra. But if she doesn't lay eggs afterwards and then everything the all those 21 eggs in her stomach, no good. She has the question. Same thing that we had before. Everybody agrees that an egg that was laid by a chicken is but listen to the she she had eggs after she became a no it's talking about the eggs are already in her body the word is no good like we said before she use another word she finished off the egg you're right you're right you really have to change the from but we learned the offspring of a trafe animal let's say a sheep realize put his put over here he's saying slightly different than we said before over here she became pregnant and while she was pregnant then a lion decided to eat her and he didn't but he made her a tra Galdic. How do we view the fetus? If you view the fetus literally as the mother as another limb of the mother of the another thigh of the mother just like the if a if a if a lion uh attacks a sheep. So you don't say, "Oh, it attacked a sheep but not its heart. It attacked the sheep, not its lungs." No, everything that everything in the sheep is attacked is a tra. So to the fetus that's inside this the mother, that's one way to look at it. Or you could say the fetus has nothing to do with the mother. Yes, it's attached by an umbilical cord, but it's a thing by itself. If you want, you could pop him out right now. Take him, cut him out. I don't know what. It's a different It's a different entity. So says, "Doesn't that same in our days in Switzerland?" That's for you. I want to tell you the indu bring it as a you don't say that oh it's a tra you shouldn't bring it to no you could bring it to ask isn't it better to talk about in Switzerland in Austria in it's in everywhere but and that says it's awesome to eat such an animal because it's the mother is a It's better it's stronger to show the aspect than the aspects that when you have a a tra from when it is from eggs that are already inside the mother because he holds he doesn't holder. So why they typically if you don't hold you that the fetus is different than the mother so aren't the eggs different than the mother? The answer is no. Why? Think about it. Eggs are different than a fetus. A fetus is very independent of the mothers connected by a cord. But eggs, they grow on this stem and they're there. They're part of part and parcel of the mother. So that then we're going to consider them like the mother. Says the if there's a male, there's no there's no way out of it. You have to wait patiently for 12 months. There's no tricks to know that this animal is not a tra but there is a trick. What's the trick? If she gives birth, if she gives birth, then it's a that she's not afra. What kind of creatures don't have bones? >> Worms. >> Snake. >> Insects. >> Snakes have bones. >> Insects. Snake. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> Is a vertebrae. Ask him. He'll tell you. Of course it has. Yeah. Yeah. >> A worm. >> Worm. Not >> insects. >> Insects don't have. Flies don't have flies don't have the is going to talk about flies stuff can't wait to get there says so we have a a cl looked it up on chat GPT they live 15 to 30 years okay so there's a but in general an insect doesn't live for more than a year so if it doesn't if it doesn't live for 12 if it doesn't have bones it can't live for more than 12 months Since he said this, says listen to this. If you have some sort of cucumber, some sort of pumpkin that got wormy when it was attached to the ground. So, here's the if a worm uh was born in an apple on a tree, then it's also to eat. Why? Because the tree is part of the ground. And it says in the if it's on the ground it's so anything attached to the tree is also when it develops in a fruit that's detached from the ground and doesn't come out didn't come out then you're allowed to eat the worm you hear. So here's a big problem. It's not a problem but it's going to be a problem for you from now on. Every time you eat herring remember there's probably worms in there. And you're allowed to eat those worms because they grow in the stomach of the fish. That's the Just remember it's yummy. You're eating You're eating worms. >> So if you wash it down with whiskey, >> that will kill the worm and then so it's all good. Fine. or tequila in our case says oh he said that if they live more than 12 months it's a ray they have bones if they don't have bones they can't live for 12 months so if you find worms in dates after 12 months they're okay why because they're new they were they were created they they developed after it just cut off the tree. If they were there from when the tree where they're attached to the tree, then it's no good. If they developed afterwards, then it's great. We have to make sure it's 12 months because maybe you're looking at a worm that that was there when it was on the tree. Now, obviously the dead worms are also er dead says the gamar. Ah, I love this gimmar [clears throat] lea. There's no mosquito that lives more than a day. It's not really a mosquito. It's some sort of type of flying insect that has a sting. A natic says, this one says mosquito can't live more than a day. So says the this mosquito. You should know that that a fly can't live more than a year. So what's bhat? A year or an hour? >> A year. A year. A >> year. That's not good. So it's interesting as a question from a saying that people say like folklore you know like like people say seven years the female mosquito rebelled against her husband for seven years. Why? She says to him, "You saw this guy, this guy that weighs, you know, 250 comes out of the mikvah, his from the whole thing, puts on his towel that has the name on it." And he went and he covered himself with nice cloth. You went over to him. He's all nice, hot, just came out of the mikvah. He started sucking his blood. What's the tino? He didn't even tell me about it. She has a tremendous Tina. It's a real Tina. He's a He's a selfish selfish mosquito. Very, very bad. Bad guy. But she spent her entire life being upset at him for what? For the So, so think about it. her entire life which is one day or as the Gor is going to say seven years but you know in dog years they call it it's yeah you know dogs also live but in dog years seven years dog years mosquitoes also they only live for one day the seven years in mosquito years but she spent her entire life fighting with her husband being upset at the husband because he didn't tell her you didn't tell me about that guy from that's the mirror you you hear from this you see from this that a mosquito lives for seven years there's another saying I'll ask you aasha saying on the saying it says that the mosquito in its stinger he carries 60 60 like coins that's how heavy it is I mean the mosquito is tiny how does it carry something 60 coins it's impossible We're talking about in weight. Mosquito weight is like so heavy for the mosquito. It's very large. It's a very large stinger. Mosquitoes also have the special I'm serious. I didn't look this up, but a lot of times, you know, I'm sure you guys try to kill flies like I do. >> So, sometimes, you know, it gets stuck in your bathroom. You take a towel, you give it a whack, and you think you got it. It's dead. It's like 3 seconds later, and it flies away. was shot cuz yeah he was unconscious but 3 seconds for him is like you know 3 months for us go to the hospital you're you're in there for 3 months then you come out but him also he was there for 3 months you see it was it's a different type of life they have mosquito life it's a fly life I don't know not awesome this is also to me if we were to think about it beforehand if an animal has five legs it's a traa but where I'm going to tell Right now it's only either the front or the back. One of them is extra. It's extra. Front or back? Which one makes it trava? So yesterday we learned that there's a difference which leg is removed. The front or the back? If the front foot leg is removed, it's not a traa. If the back is removed, then it is a traa. So now once you know that when it comes to extra legs it's the same exact thing a extra leg on the back makes it a tra in the front not what's the logic the logic is because we have a concept in the called anything extra is if it's removed but not it itself is removed you remove one like it so when we are removing if he has one extra back leg and we remove that plus one. So you remove the back leg. You remove the back leg, it's a traa. But if you have extra front leg and you remove the front leg plus one front leg, it's new. So you went missing one front leg. What is that called? That's called a not a says five or three. That's only because it's in the front. It's worse. Now it's not about we're allowed to eat but it's not allowed to eat. So if it's in the back or you hear this n you ever knew this means you don't take off the one you take the one that's similar to it also [clears throat] says there was an animal does remember what means means the thing that even a wolf hates what does a wolf fate to eat one part of the animal that I forgot what it's called oh blind blind gut. Basically, in the in the kishkus, it has a little piece that comes out and it's a one-way street. So, the stuff that goes in there is very, very smelly and disgusting. So, even even wolves don't eat that. So, what happens if the animal has two of those? So, now we're going to take the same concept we just learned. One extra is minus two. So, it's as if he doesn't have any doesn't have any should be, right? He took and he said, "Oh, it's as if this animal doesn't have any d and the both." So therefore the animals are tra and if they spill out into each other like so because at the end of the day it's fine. There's a pipe because of here's a great picture that Yoshi did that it goes from the basis. Here we go. Here ga means extra pipe. Here's a pipe right over here that goes there is a pipe. There is a connection between the two but there's an extra one. So says um it went from the uh says to the hems which is next to it want to say the same logic that anything extra is if it doesn't exist. So you take everything out doesn't exist but it's not true. All the wild animals, they have that pipe. So, it's not a problem. There was another pipe. It went from the to the Here we have it right over here. You see this extra pipe right over here. It went from the to the want to say it's kosher because we said a second ago it's kosher. You're going to use one um not a not a needle. Yeah, maybe a needle. You're going to you're going to sew or do like some say like um you know like weave you're going to weave everything with one with one uh needle where we said it's kosher. is kosher in one part of the animal doesn't say she can't just bring a riot from another part of the animal. What do we do here? Hey, let's just do a few more minutes. There's two intestines that came out from an animal together. But in a bird, it's that they finish all off in two different places. But if they come out from one place, they call them and they finish off like one finger breath away. It's because the intestines go back into each other and they become one again. Even if they don't combine later on that's why makes sense eventually they get together even if they don't combine what does it mean one finger oh the end of the line right before it relieves itself over there it should be within a a finger's breath have a wonderful day have a great chabas we'll see >> [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.