CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 56 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. Here we go. 10 lines from the bottom. So, we're discussing a gluda. A gluda is an animal which is missing all of its skin. If you have one little cella the size of a coin of skin somewhere on the animal, >> it saves the Yeah, the glue is coming up soon. So, this is the the the skin on the bottom part of an animal's leg that will not save the animal. That that's a tra over there. There's no meat at all. says that even the skin of could save the animal from being a tra as long as exactly what we discussed there's a of skin on the lower part of the leg. Yes, it does in fact save the animal but you taught us once when it comes to so typically speaking the hide is not mama but if it's if it acts like meat than it is but it says that the the the hide is more like meat and not like hide. Therefore it won't save an animal. It's as if he doesn't have any any hide. He only has meat and one of them is or so you see that of the lower leg is not good skin. Don't upset me. So that's that's a individual. We don't hold like him. So we know we're not going to go into the don't worry about it if you don't enjoy peagle stuff even though we learned and everybody's very familiar with it but just in case it's just uh is brought in there as a side point. The idea is that if a ken as he's shifting an animal, he thinks himself a thought that's ples this animal or creates a curus. How? By thinking that he's going to eat this animal in 3 4 days from now when in fact he can only eat it one or two days or he's going to put it on the in one or two days from now instead of putting on today. So if he thinks to put it on in a different place outside in in some some place other than mikdash that's so that you never get cers for that but it makes the animal possible. So too if he thought to put on the when it comes to so is something that you can't eat yourself. So all his thoughts are when he's putting it on the and what is he thinking about the hide that's under the tail of a sheep. So it works. If you thought about outside of it a lot of time, you get and the hide on the head of a of a calf that's still nursing. And the hide is under the tail. And all those that when it comes to we said that the hides are like the meat or the female womb entrance asks we're not talking about a female here. We're talking about a male because the can only be a male. She says yeah it's the same area by a male. The bottom line is that you see that it's a that says that the hide that's on the lower part of the leg is m that's not considered it's considered baser but most of most of the hold that it's considered hide and therefore it's the animal says the Mishna. Now we're moving on to a new topic. We're done for now with the traus of an animal. Now we're moving on to birds. Chickens very very these create a tra and a bird. Oh, I was just in my room and I forgot to bring my ka. >> No, no, no. If there's a hole in the esophagus and if there's a split in the Kana >> kana which is the trachea the breathing tube. >> It's just like an animal uh a small little puncture wound in the eating tube makes it a trae but by the uh trachea you need more than that. You need a split. Oh here becomes gishmach. If a weasel could be a rat but we don't like talking about rats. Let's call it a weasel. when it's a weasel. So when a weasel punctures its head in a place that it creates a traa. So let me show you a couple videos. First we have the real thing. First of all, what's a weasel? Weasels looks like a little bit like a mongoose. They have them also. It's a feisty little animal. This is better. We got a much better one. MDY caught this on film. This mishumar caught it in its head, but now the chicken is still alive and we want to know if it's a tr or not. So the question of the suga is did the teeth of the weasel go through the skull into the brain. Now we know the brain is surrounded by two membranes. Did it puncture both of them? What's fascinating about this gar is going to give us all sorts of different ways to check whether or not there's a puncture wound. So says says the Mishna the gizzard. So let's take a look at some of the the fascinating inarders of a of a bird. So first when the when the bird eats food it goes first into the crop known as the zepic. From there it moves into the corkan to the gizzard and uh somehow after that it makes it into the intestines to the dak which we're also going to speak about today. Uh we're going to talk about the coveted and the lathe. You see the the um liver and the heart are in the front of the chicken. So let's say if it burns its stomach, it's going to burn the heart and the liver. So that's the next thing in the in the Mishna. If a chicken fell into a fire for a moment but was saved [snorts] and the inards were scorched. >> Oh, mom's like that. So the mission goes on to say if it changed colors. So says the Mishna. So what do you do if the chicken fell into a flame? If the red organs turned green and if they remain red that is if a human being stepped on a chicken or or threw it up against the wall or another animal uh broke it up and it's like struggling ing for it's thrashing around the concern over here is something called we had a number of times where the inards are are uh broke might be broken because it had a very you know somebody stepped on it or somebody threw it into a wall. is that if the animal survives 24 hours, it waited around for 24 hours. It is kosh says this is check number one. So listen to the way you check. What's the concern? That maybe this weasel stuck its teeth into the skull, punctured the brain. So they all say you stick your finger inside to the top of its what do you call that area on top? >> Pallet. >> The pallet. Very good. Push. >> Push. >> Push. What's going to happen? His brains are going to be mush and they're going to push out. Now if there's two little holes on the top is going to be brain squirt and then you know that it's tra. No brain squirt. Cauter. Give a good way. >> His brains are falling out. >> Yeah. >> [snorts] >> listen a chicken doesn't have that much brain going on but whatever it is if the brain comes out if not it's saysro accord says that it becomes when you puncture both membranes okay so both are punctured now because if you see brain squirting out of the top of this chicken's head obviously both were punctured If the upper membrane is punctured, that makes it a traa. Maybe in this case the lower one is not punctured. The reason why brain is not splattering everywhere is because there's another layer say not true. Why? Because the lower layer is very very thin. Since the lower membrane is very very thin. So when a human being pushes his finger through the pallet, it's going to give and the brain is going to go squirting out. Let's just use this picture for the gimra. If brain came out of the top, that means what? There's two holes or however many holes from the weasel says you can't check from a weasel bite. nail that was because it's very thin needle pointy uh teeth here like where was that here? Right over here. They're too small to check. Says it makes no sense. What are you saying? Why? Who cares? Brain will come out because his teeth are crooked. Therefore, when you put pressure, you apply pressure, it'll come out of the the membrane and won't go it won't continue into the it's going to go into the empty ear space between the brain and the skull. It won't go out of the the next hole. If it's lined up hole to hole, then when you put pressure, it will come out the top hole. But since it's on an angle, it's not going. So, it's tooth is crooked. And when you push the brain out, I would have put the No, no, this is terrible. This is not a good picture. No, the skull has to be moved over to the left. Mark, just move it over to the left a little bit. [laughter] You cop what I'm saying. The over here, the hole lines up perfectly. Not Not good. Not good. Oh, it actually has a video. Look at that. That's what he's showing. Noo-Noo. I learned it a little differently. Okay. say that you cannot check a weasel says sent back to where he came from to bubble well is in bubble he sent back this which I said that you can't check a weasel bite is a mistake in fact he said You could check a weasel with your hand. What I meant is not with a nail. What do you do? You take something sharp like a nail or a a pin and you go back and forth on the brain. And you see if there's any holes in the membrane, if it if it's if there's a snag, you know, did they just say snag? So, what's the what's the problem with a mas with a nail? The problem is it can make another hole. It can make another nick. and um and make it a trauma. No, you could use the the the nail trick to see whether or not there was a previous puncture. And this is old one would use the pushing of the brain up. Another one would use a a pin. So the one that used this finger told the one that used a pin When are you going to stop wasting Jewish money and the same thing in the reverse the one that used the needle test you tell the one that used the finger test what you're doing is not accurate just because the brain doesn't splatter everywhere doesn't come out of two holes doesn't mean that it's not that's not an aa it is an avail is a dead animal like a cow any cow that dies without Any horse that dies, any chicken that dies isn't available. It gives off a tuma. A traifle. >> A blemish that will cause it to die eventually. But because heed it there's no so asked right away. Why are you calling this an it's why you calling it an right? In fact it's a not a who said what I have a simple is the one that says that you do the hand check not the needle check the you you use the hand check and not a nail and he continues to say that if the skull broke so you don't need to puncture the membrane great that's says but I have a problem you tell me you check the weasel with your hand not with a nail you could check. You tell me that if the skull breaks, you don't need to check to see if the membrane is intact or not. Automatically, it's a tray. The membrane is nothing. See, there's no there's no there's no there's no point of checking. Says, and we're going to have this three times in a row. Same exact question, same exact answer. So, we have a freebie here all the way to the bottom. when we're talking about a water bird like a seagull. Well, that's that's an example, but a a duck, kosher bird, it doesn't have a membrane and therefore it's it's tra right away. If you have a problem, broken skull, it's straight right away. How can you say that a brain I mean that's one of the the gave um creatures and humans the brain sits in fluid and has all this protection with membrane and fluids. Imagine a brain without fluids. Every time you you you ch you moved your head the brain would get a concussion bing into the wall of the the skull. So how do you tell me it doesn't have a membrane? Says of course it has a membrane. It's a very very soft membrane. Here, here's a chicken membrane. And compared to a duck's membrane, it's much thicker a chicken. You see the white the thick white over here? The membrane. Yeah, there's a membrane. But the point is that even if the membrane is intact, but if there's a hole in the skull, the the membrane is worthless because it's so thin. So there's no point of checking it. So now the same thing all over again. You said that said that you do the hand check friend says is the one that says you use the hand not it's the same thing as we had before if the skull breaks you don't have to check the the membrane he checked the membrane In a border bird, you don't have to check the membrane because it's all over. Once there's a hole in the skull, it's a because it doesn't have a me doesn't have a very thin one. Says third story, same thing all over again. There was a chicken in's house and he sent a question to what our case where the skull broke but the membrane is intact. He said it's from Iraq. Great. End of that narabai all the way on the bottom of Alf. Another few very interesting ways to check whether or not a weasel bit through and through the brain and the membrane. One way to check it. Take a look at this. He he he checked it out in the sun. Look now, even this one right over here, how do you get a membrane that you could check in the sun? You have to remove the brain. How do you remove the brain? Do something like this. Here we go. And this is the water test. You fill up the head with water, the memory with water, and you see if it comes out. If it comes out, that means it had a hole in the membrane. He would check another way to check. He would use wheat, the hearers of the wheat. He would go back and forth with it and he would see if it falls into like a little crevice, a little hole, and they know that it's holy. Our ducks, they're like water birds. No, not for the Lord. If a chicken fell into the fire, how much green? As much as the hole in the in the different limbs, every time we say there's a hole in the lungs or whatever, it's a needle. uh if you rec so if you see a red organ that turns a little green it is the I'm just telling you the end of the but here comes the if a bird fell into fire and became green its liver if the liver that's opposite of the intestines becomes green what's why is it different than any other organ so he asked him beautifully. It was a setup to the question. We know that if you remove the entire liver, as long as a small piece remains, the animal is kosher. The bird is kosher. Why? Because it will regenerate itself. So, who cares if a little tiny part of the liver became green? Let it will regenerate itself. So since it got green on the underside of the liver, you should know that eventually it's the not eventually but that the intestines also were burnt and singed by this fire. It's like indication. Look, if the liver got burned, not necessarily would the intestines got burned. But if the liver got burned to the point where they turned green and the intestines are right behind the liver, then you know that they got enough damage from that fire and it strafe. He had a chicken that fell into the fire. So he sent it's green. That's the normal color. But we said in the Mishna that if it turns green, it's possible. So he says three organs that are initially red and they turn green. Ah the change of the color indicates that it's but if it's green to begin with as going to say soon then of course it's it's we learned this also these are the types these are the organs that become turning green the the corkon how do you say the gizzard >> the heart and the liver you also had a chicken that fell into the fire what's up with the chickens that fall on the fire. He said, "Oh, it's red." Red is good. When it changes colors, that's when it's not that it's red. But what was it to begin with? It was green that turned to red. That's But if it's red and it stayed red, that's great. When it's red and turns green, it's also tra. Which ones that remain kosher? When they're they're red and remain red, they're kosher. Those three that we said before that if they turn green, they they become tra the heart, the cork and the covet. If you have red organs that turn green, you put them in boiling water and the original color came back. Why is it kosher? Because it only had smoke. You're seeing a smoke screen. You're not seeing the real color. So, let's take that logic and let's use it in the reverse. If you have a red organ that didn't turn green and then you boiled it up, you see, see, in fact, it was damaged by the fire. How do I know it was damaged by the fire? Because I boiled it and then it turned the green. It was supposed to be red, but it turned green. Sorry. Yeah. So, Rashi says interesting word means their shame. In other words, they were hiding behind the smoke, but in fact, it's very shameful. It turns colors. It switched colors. So, comes with doesn't like what he says. If you think you have a concern that your animal might have jumped onto the grill for a minute and you're not sure if it's a traa, so put into boiling water and see if anything changes colors. We don't we don't work like that. Since nothing changed colors, why would you look for a change in color by putting in the hot water? If you have it changed color, so you put it in or in the first case you put it in, you found out that it changed. But did go and check for it change color. We don't do that. >> Why is an animal that a human being stepped on or threw it into a wall? You still need to check it for what? Now, if it lived for 24 hours, we said it's kosher. Why is it kosher? Because what's the main concern? Rev that it's a foola that it has internal injuries. And this will give us an indication that it didn't have internal injuries because it wouldn't survive 24 hours. But you still have to check it to see if it has a severed spinal cord. That's what he says. Says the Mishna just like we had in the beginning of the perk with the first Mishna was then we had so we have alo on birds and birds. Here's the eluker. If there's a little tiny hole in the trachea, the breathing tube, it is kosher oisa. So this is nisdika. We love this picture. Right down the trachea. So when the when the bird eats, it actually closes up. The tension closes it up so it's easier for it to heal. He got the if the weasel bit it in its head in a place where it won't become not by the brain. So let's go to the zepic. Here we go. >> Or by the brain unchecked. >> No, it says >> right by the brain. >> You mean that it didn't go through the >> the membrane? Zapak is the crap. It's the first sack that the food goes into. So remember this rebi rebi says when it comes to the zep it could be removed completely. So they explain it doesn't mean completely it means most of it which is called completely but remember says even if the whole zbec was removed if the intestines came out but they weren't punctured if its wings were broken it's still kosher it's not a it's not a tra its feet are broken it's it lost its feathers the large feathers if you removed it down the smaller feathers And they slept they slept the night. If you if if anybody did yesterday, you'll know what a tarp is. Was it our the same thing? What a is >> the same thing as >> as a said there's three for I think I don't know maybe I'm missing one if the womb was removed they said like says now what does the rebi sayic again let's go back to the Mishna that when the crap is punctured says even if it's if it was removed completely >> [snorts] >> So says what exactly do they mean by that? They actually mean that if the w is missing then it's a trai like rebi says that if it's completely removed the zeic ru but but would be or they were just saying look just like said it's so the the womb is The gumar understood that they don't there's something going on here by saying by comparing it to they actually don't hold like so says in fact I don't know what the is so let's take a look at this and I'm going to bring my little laser this is the crap right over here says says that the gag this is the roof of the zep meaning where it becomes narrow it it has the same as the esophagus what's esophagus that a small little puncture makes it where is this exactly where it becomes narrow after the crap right over All this right over here has an esophagus and makes it here comes the story. When the intestines come out, they fell out. It's when the human being didn't intervene and put it back in upside down. If you put it in backwards makes it made you how do you touch up the word >> established you and made like a base in a human. If any of them uh are are flipped upside down a person can't live. So don't mess around with that creation. Don't try to put it back in. If you do, you try to throw the kishkas back in, it's like a whole, you know, it's a windy thing. If you try to put it back in, you're going to mess it up and it's going to be a tra. And very similarly, this is referring to the what? It's like a city that has everything in it. You have the from them from everything. You have the the corner. You have the the >> foundation. >> No, it's like uh what you put in for a tent like >> Yeah. >> with the yal. Yeah. the peg. Thank you. Oh, here's the story. Here it is. Oh, crazy story. There was a Roman. He witnessed a terrible thing where a human being fell off a roof onto the ground and his his stomach exploded and his intestines splattered out. We in fact have a picture that we took in the safari. It's a gross picture, so I'm warning you. Graphic warning. >> This is a zebra that um let me get this off that someone attacked it or something happened here and its intestines came out of it. He witnessed this. He sees it with a human being that it's kishkas are all over the place. So say he takes the wounded man's son he him sliced his neck right in front of the father. So what did the father do from such pain watching his son like that? was [gasps] he screamed out and he made some noise whatever and his kishkas went all the way back in but it was the guy didn't know he thought his son died was a fact was a magic trick he screamed outn so went right back to where he came in like a vacuum and and he sewed them up real quickly so they shouldn't go back out. And the guy lived happily ever after in Rome. Raoi, have a wonderful day. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. 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