CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 54 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning RABBI BOYS AND WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO BE MORE THAN WHAT I AM? THE NAME of the heel. The son of the deceased. Jerusalem room So yesterday we had a whole discussion about animals that with their claws they inject venom bacteria venom whatever you want to call it they kill other animals with their claws. It's called the Jerusalem. So we have a question of Jerusalem. This is brings over here. The near of the deceased of the Jerusalem. But it brings the river that says only so we can do so. Okay. So I am charming to you sir. The point is a Jerusalem or so we can do so we are not sure 100% of what we are sure. You you there's a way to check it. How? You open up the the animal and you look not on the intestines but next to the test. And because the venom travels after it gets injected it doesn't just stay there. It wreaks havoc inside the body and keeps on burning and the lotion of the burning it keeps on going up and up and until it hits the intestines. Once it hits the intestines then it makes a whole intestines and becomes straight. I am your assistant. So we might hear no connect the name of I am right over here beautiful picture. Oops. Like that. That whole area underneath you have to check. Do you see it on the screen? Yeah, okay. I am your assistant of the name of the heel of the deceased of the name of the deceased. And we're going to have because once we see this lotion the more is going to repeat itself a number of times. This is how long you just said you know what you already said it. Oh. You said it already small. Yes Jerusalem and more. if a cat So, we spoke about a tall cat. We spoke about a lion, also a type of a cat. Lion for sure grabs an animal by its neck. On the simanim Perhaps simanim are could withstand the the venom. Oh, yeah, in Jerusalem Simon, maybe not. Here, same kind of loshon. We already saw this alacha Jerusalem Simon can I get base a call cool eye? Here we go. Base a call cool eye, the entire innards of the animal even all the way up, like in this drawing, the pink circle, all the way up to the con and veshet up here. You have to check everything. >> [snorts] >> We had shows how the simanim are ripped open. No, not this one. No. Okay, no. When you have the the con and the veshet that are popped out, they're not really attached strongly. How much are they detached? same loshon. You already said it. What's the problem? 51% detached con and veshet that's a problem. when the meat of the animal starts rotting, decaying. How much? Zero. Don't review that. It's all the alacha. Jerusalem I am you wait until it becomes a little red not touching the but even opposite the in other words below the intestines let's say it's over here it will travel slowly and hit the the intestines and make it treif. So right there once you see red there it's all over. Says the Gamorah So right now once it starts decaying you pretend that whole area is gone. So let's say a heart starts decaying a lung starts decaying so it's gone gone no no heart no lung treif. No kidney no I'm sorry liver no liver if it's gone it's okay animal can live without a liver animal is going to see without kidneys also. So that wouldn't be a problem so depends on the organ. Let's see the new what he did the second time if not we'll go to the first one. No. Not that one. That's the original. That he if he peels it down and then you know the meat here's on the left you see decaying meat on the right if he's able to peel it with a fork. Says the Gamorah um So as long as the the doctor peels it down and you see the the live meat that's the meat. Oh interesting story they bring a lung. It's a type of a lung that you have a might be able so here's the story they come up with a lung they have a video of it I also have a video I have a video of it you take the lung you put it plop it down on the table looks perfect. But you have a but when you try to pick it up have a small pieces fall off of it. So what what's that law? Here, let me show you what it looks like. Here it is. It's on the table, looks normal, right? As soon as this guy lifts it up, it starts falling apart into pieces. So we said that it's treif based on go over there, please. The the shoe is not for you. I'm talking to the flies. We said that it's treif why? Based on the that we said that any time that the doctor peels it away and it sees the meat, it's treif. Okay. Uh you listen to me. Good boy. Dead boy. Jumping to the maholoh, yeah. So I'm finished. So the law is if you have a thorn, when it punctures the inside of the animal, that's treif. Why? Because now I have to be that it really got all the way in. Maybe punctured the intestines. We have a the name I am. We had this before when the meat becomes red opposite of the intestines even before the intestines because it's going to travel. And it says the name I am. The differences in my when it comes to the trachea and the esophagus, then they themselves have to be red. When it comes to the intestines, even the meat below it is is the the intestines are sensitive enough that they'll be affected by that venom. On the puppy by the [ __ ] or on top version of the mashu. When you have the esophagus, one tiny hole makes it treif, just like this. Little hole in the esophagus makes it treif. Drusasai, when it's a drusa, it's mashu. Now you're telling me, yeah, kana nikvaza issur. Drusasai bekana. When it comes to the trachea, the breathing tube, it's much larger hole, the size of a coin. What about drusa? He said drusa by the esophagus, by the eating tube, is a small little hole. What about by the breathing tube? Cuz the breathing pipe, the chissar is much larger. It's not a small hole. The chissar has to be a large like coin. So maybe when it comes to drusa, it's a different size also when it comes to the kana. When it comes to the veshet, there's two sizes. I mean, the sorry, there's one size, it's mashu, whether it's for a hole or whether it's for drusa. But it's a small little hole. Now you take another pipe, you take the breathing pipe, it's not a small hole. The the the the treif is when it's a large hole, like this. So what about drusa? Maybe it's also a big hole. No. But the mashu kana and the veshet, small little hole for a drusa. My timer or small little p- uh discoloration, red discoloration of venom, that's a drusa. My timer because the venom keeps on going deep into it and will keep on moving and burning up the flesh and will create a problem with the kana. Four lines down, you also review the committee of the committee of the committee said Jerusalem connected to my Jerusalem, we have to check the the the bottom the bottom line. Let's see over here in the bottom line. Can I get the bottom line in this picture right over here? Okay. The [clears throat] bottom line is from a spoon to the thigh. Now, what's typically a calf is a calf yard. In Hebrew this calf yard is this. It's like a spoon, but there's something else. My cup of the bottom of the cup of the yard you're telling me the the So, over here for an animal will be a little different. It would mean the actual um here we go. The shoulder. So, this would be copper. So, it says the bottom line if you're telling me that bottom line and it goes all the way to the thigh. You see you have to check all that area. How do you connect the bottom line? Isn't that identical to this that we just showed a second ago this one right over here? It's the same arrow, same amount. What do you gain by saying calling it something else? Just say bottom line. So, the bottom line is right. The bottom of the cup of the bottom line is that one. So, let's look take a look at it here. First we thought it's from one thigh bone to the other. So, you know, which is the Now, take a look at the arrow. It's going to grow. Oh, bottom line is in there. And the bottom line says no, it's from the thigh bone the rear thigh bone all the way to the brain. That's also called the calf. So, it's talking about the the the the brain. The calf of the brain. So, the bottom line is all the way to the bottom of the calf. Where the bottom of the calf came up to the bottom of the calf and the bottom of the calf and the bottom of the calf and the bottom of the calf. He bumped into the bottom of the calf and the bottom of the calf. Unbelievable. The bottom of the calf. Rebbe Shluchim. And they were sitting and they were saying, Jerusalem Shluchim connected with the mind. You should check the whole mind like you saw before. I'm a little ho, he said he came. My Rebbe Rebbe, I heard Rebbe in bubble say something else. Me cup of that thumb. Not the the mind, but from the from the from the thigh all the way to the to the brain. I'm a little Shluchim. Manu Rebbe Manu Rebbe, who in the world is Rebbe? Anyways, I'm a little Shluchim. I don't who's this Rebbe that you're talking about? He literally didn't know who he was. He wasn't familiar with him. We got to lay. You can people keep on mentioning a lot of Rebbe Rebbe Rebbe. I don't even know who he is. I'm a little Rebbe. Rebbe hears this. When he hears lay lay lay Thomas and Shimon is Rebbe Rebbe of Rebbe Hillel. You don't remember this Thomas that served the famous Rebbe Judah Nasi and Rebbe Hillel, the author of all the braces. I'm a little Shluchim. Colossians Shluchim Shimon shows the Thomas of Yeshiva. When that Thomas was in Yeshiva, I need you mention by me that. When that Thomas was sitting down in the in in in when we were learning, I had to stand. In other words, Rebbe is more kosher than me, says Rebbe Shluchim. I'll back her. I don't know today, but I'll back her Rebbe is says Rebbe I used to stand. What's it? Rebbe Rebbe said, what do you mean you don't know Rebbe is? A man gave her who is unbelievable, is a great man. Give her a coil up. He was great in everything in Torah and in Hasidus. In both. Yeah, but Rebbe Shluchim all my senses Rebbe Shluchim is Rebbe always says the Torah. You're right. You're right. You're right. I remember he's he's he's he's a great name. I I when we're going to mention him for the good Thomas Shimon Pev. He said a thing in his name Shmuel Shuta Shara. If you find the trachea, the cona, dislodged, but it's also shacted, kosher. Why? She actually should be also shacted. It's impossible for dislodged trachea to be shacted. How are you going to shacted? It's dislodged. It's moving around over there. What you do is you take that dislodged um trachea and you and you shacted it now, again, a second time. And you compare the colors. If the colors are the same, that that means it's no good. Because that means the color that occurred after the shita, which is the new cut that I just made, is identical to the to the first one. If they're different, then you know that that that it's a good shita. Why? Because your cut came after the shita and it looks like this. And the first one looks different. It was a good shita. It was connected. You didn't grab on to the simanim. Here we did a great job. Here he helped me out a lot. Oh. She has a shmuel shuta. Dislodged completely, out of place. Shuta. Now let's see. Maybe maybe the next one will be the one I'm looking for. Yeah. No. >> No. No. >> What was this? >> Perfect simanim. >> Oh. I don't know what that is. But here he's literally in our shita. He's holding onto the simanim. You can see the simanim in his hand. If you grab it, now there's no reason so even if it's dislodged, you could still shacted. Before we had to say, "Oh, how are you going to shacted it if if it's not attached? It's wiggling around in there. You're not going to get a good cut." No, but if he's holding onto it, he's going to get a good cut. So it's not all right that it wasn't dislodged. Okay. Next shita. Zack clout. So we learned in the mission of last thing in our mission of the famous mission of eight treifas there's a rule. After we we say all 18 treifas, there's a rule. What's the rule? That if an animal gets some sort of injury that causes another animal usually another animal to die from it, that's that that will that will create a treifa. Says in Siyum Yomi what is this coming to include? Last three Shev Shma'tsa. So, to remind Shev Shma'tsa, the seven that's the name of the famous safer based on this, I guess. That when the mission says there's 18 treifas, but in Zaclaw, I got to add another seven. There's really 25. The Beis Yosef Rishba Machal Be Gidon Shaya Kadif fascinating story here. The family of Yosef the the hunter, he was a hunter. To remind them about the hunting, we had a we had a tana that he would hunt he was such a good hunter they take an arrow and shoot a bird out of the sky as it was flying as it was flying. Cut its two simanim, the bird would fall down and they'd check, make sure it's not a drusa. As a deer is running by, you shoot him with an arrow, you hit him in the gid hanasheh. Now he can't run anymore. His sciatic nerve goes Could you eat such an animal? One grab him, he's limping away and shacht him. Yes or no? Well, it will depend if you created a treifa or not. Now, it's not brought down in the mission, it's not brought down in the Shev Shma'tsa. It's not the seven, so what is it? Here it is. There's some picture here of a hitting the Okay. Here's the sciatic nerve. Akin lo yachlil bnei Yisrael gid hanasheh. You're not allowed to we're not allowed to eat the gid hanasheh. And in the in the shchita they showed us exactly where it is. It's very obvious where it is. Oh, here we have a video. Oh, that's why I couldn't see it. Wow. That's a beautiful video. That's Benny Poking Mazel. Oh, I think we saved that. We have this. We have this in the freezer. Baal chibbur giddin v'ashaiver katli. They would first hit it in the in the sciatic nerve in the giddin v'asha. And then they would check it. Also, the Kamay, the Rebbe would say "Oh, and he paskins because the hoisev temeis yesh, you can't add more than the Mishnah says 18, you can't add more." Eilu kamashu monu chachamim, what they did is okay. You're allowed to eat that meat. I, that animal is going to die. So, we're going to dress it in a minute. The Bay Papa Bar Aba, same story. Another family, they were also the Bay Papa Rav, the Bay Rav Papa Bar Aba, Rishba, I'm saying it twice, once for the Hebrew, once for the English here. Also a hunter, machu b'chulya v'katli. They would hit the animal, the deer, let's say, in the kidney. And they would have to make sure not to puncture the kidney on the other side because it would touch the intestine. Says the same thing. It's you're hitting in the Sounds strange that you're shooting an animal in its kidney and you can eat it afterwards, with the shchita, of course. But you can't be meisev on what the chacham said. V'chol hazina d'kameisa, but at the end of the day it's going to die, so why is that not a treifa? G'miridi bad v'lo it will live. So, but obviously you have to say that that only applies to things that are not in the Mishnah. But the 18 things in the Mishnah, let's say it has a in the heart. You can't give it medicine or give it a surgery and say, "Hey, this thing is going to live 5 years." Once the Mishnah says that's a treifa, that's a treifa for all generations. Says the Mishnah, very similar to what we had, the first Mishnah of our perek, but the reverse. Uh the first Mishnah is elu treifos, these are what causes an animal to be a treifa, you can't eat. And then this Mishnah says ve'elu ksheiros be'heima, what's kosher in an animal? Nikva ha'gargeres, you take the trachea, the cona, and a little hole in it is okay, as we said before. Oishen nizdaka, his nizdaka, you have a slice that got As long as you have a little bit on both sides, you have a slice. And what's the interesting that we learned is that with the trachea, if the animal bends its neck to eat grass, it's going to tighten up. It's going to schlep it and make the two pieces come together. So that's actually good, cuz then it'll start healing. The problem is if you do it if you take out Let's say it's sliced the other way, so every time it bends its neck, it keeps on popping open, popping open, so it'll never heal. Atama techsar, how much do you need from this cona to be treif? Reb Shimon ben Elozar omer, ad k'isra'ei talchi. There's a coin called isrei talchi. Nigzalu guileis if the if the the skull is got something went missing there. Let it give crumbs about it, but don't worry about it. The the membrane that surrounds the brain is not punctured, kosher. Even though a piece of the Listen, people live without pieces of skull. Little babies live without a They have a big hole over here until the skull fuses itself. You can live without it. Nikav ha'leiv, even a hole in the heart. V'lo lo beis ha'halal ay. Here's the picture. Oh, first let me show the picture here. It's all in order now, so we can see it. Here, a little bit of the skull is missing, kosher. Here's the heart. As long as it did the hole doesn't penetrate into one of the chambers, kosher. Nishbra shidra. Wow, everything is in order. Unbelievable. Kobe, shkoyach. I'm shoving it on now. This is without the spinal cord. The spinal cord is intact, but the bone is broken. The bone is okay. You can live without a without a without a vertebrae. We learn this in It's It's kosher. Nidlah koved. The entire liver went missing. Venishtayim kaza'yis. Oh, here. Now, we have There's another picture, not in order. Maybe over here. Let's see this one. So, anyways, you see the you see the the liver. The liver went missing. Now, boom, gone. As long as a piece of kaza'yis is miss uh it doesn't have a kaza'yis there. But, you get the idea. The kaza'yis has to be there. A little bit. Why? Because the liver regenerates itself. Even if you leave a little it'll go back. Hemses base kolisos. Shinik result beautiful. Here's the picture. So, as you can see, again, the food goes into the kares, from the kares it drops into the base kolisos on the right, then goes into the hemses on the left. It's beautiful how it looks. It looks like a honeycomb, and this one looks like this. But, if you look closely, there's a hole from one to the other where the food goes in. He goes ahead, and he makes another hole. There's another hole with a with a with a needle here. You see the needle go through and through? Gordish is gishain for what? That there's enough service I around guy in Dalton. The food anyway has has to go in from the base of kolisos to hemses. You made another hole. Nishkafailich, ya? Nothing happened. Yeah, into the thing, it's not recommended, but it's not What's the problem? Problem is if it has a hole in the outer layer, food seeps into the body. Oy vey voy. It becomes a zehum and it's a zehum. Uh not even I don't know. There's a better word than infection. Yeah, I'll try to I'll make it infection over there. I don't know what I'll do. When we when we open up the animal, it was perfect. Everything was clean. It's You can't even imagine what's going on in there. It's like it's like a apple factory floor. You know, it's like everything is white and clean and perfect. It's a Yeah, it's all in the right place and this moves this way and this is that. Nothing thing touches anything. Imagine a piece of And people die from this that they have a like a a hole in their the kishkes intestine. Stuff goes out and it's very dangerous. But over here not. Nitala So that I just showed you so I don't have to show you again. Here's the Wow, this is I love how he did this and I didn't show much of it. But take a look at this. Um sometimes that these parts pop out. No. But here, this is the Okay, the spleen. Did like close. The The kidneys go. So that that's what Avi was saying that he looked it up and animals cannot survive somebody who's tiny that they found out science found out that kosher animals could survive without kidneys. Okay. I hear. It's not possible. Not possible. I'm not And here we go. The lower jaw was removed. Nitala shala. So they made a picture for that. I'm not going to show it. And there's no need for that. No, it's it's it's it's all kosher, but whatever. We don't have to get into it. The the womb was removed. The addition of my If the lung shriveled up, shriveled up because of something act of God. Not a human being. What's that What was that mean? It got scared. So they made a video for that. Let me see if I can find it here. Isn't it like close? Look at this. Wow. Wow, this is schmack. Two human beings came and took the clay eyes. Says the Gemara, Mishna. Oh, Hagudah. The mayor magister said this animal that doesn't have skin, the mayor says it's kosher, the chacham says it's possul. Itmar. The mayor alu treifos davka. The first Mishna of the of the perek means these are the treifos. But when it comes to this Mishna, it's lav davka. Ailu treifos there's going to be other ones that are kosher. Reish Lakish Amar and Reish Lakish argues always on Reb Yochanan and almost always ailu treifos davka. It's our Mishna that's davka, but the first Mishna is lav davka. So what's the nafka mina? We Michael Mefli bidinei masna. D'Amar d'Masna comes out with a nafka mina like this. Hai buka d'atma d'shaf m'dukteh ah. The amount of art that we have here is crazy. Look, if you if you snooze, you're going to lose. Upper back thigh bone all the way by the tail. Take a look over there. It's going to pop out. Boom. >> Dislocate. It's a treifa, he says. Why is it a treifa? Think about it. What what makes it treif? Because it might be similar to something that's missing or something that's broken. I don't know. Let's see. Reb Yochanan Amar ailu treifos davka. When the first Mishna is these are the 18 and guess what? Buka d'atma is not one of them. You know where it is? It's in the list of shaf shmaitza. Here, let's look at the shaf shmaitza list. So many things bli ayin hara. Buka d'atma is number one on top. Yeah? Right there. Boom. But he says, "Hey, it's not in the Mishna." Buka d'atma right over here. You see how it pops in there? And there's a little bit of that that's from the shchita. So, It says the 18, but at the end it says zak lao. And Remus notes seems like it should be it makes sense to the time that book of the atma, this thing popping out of the socket is in the general rule of the treif. My time of why the double and two lay is like something missing. Like like a liver is missing. Here it's missing. Time of the treif. Is that's why he says how do you the treif of the Remus and shaino? No. It's only these and not anything else. The daf is on our mission. Remus and it's another one each one is going to say this one is dafka the other one mimics the lotion. Why does it have lotion a lou? Because the the two mishnas have to be symmetrical. But Remus and a lou shair is dafka. The Irish is the main one. Time of the treif of the Remus and zak lao. And it says these are the treifs and this is the cloud that's the first mission of the Remus and zak lao. And I don't want to put Remus in there. It doesn't it's not a it's not a hole. But it's not a hole and it's not broken. It's not missing. The little two lay lou dami it's not completely taken out. Why is it not taken out? Because it's not completely taken out like a liver. It's still there. Time of the shair. That's why our mission comes along and says a lou shair is how do you lou shair of the Remus and treif. So comes out of exact opposite. Remus and holds that a book of the atma that pops out of the second kosher. Remus and holds book of the atma is treif. If it pops out of the socket it's treif. But Remus and kosher. Why do you treif? But Remus says if the sinew, the what is it called in English? The tendon, the ligament. Better. Ligament is better. The ligament tore snapped. It's treif. You should know that's not true. If the economic share if it tears and snaps the ligament is kosher. I do this until it gets eaten up. From the corner how much is missing? You don't know what it talks is. You take this this coin from How do you say it in English? Kurdistan? Kurdistan? Something like that? You take a coin that is like this the small coin. You want to find it go to Pumbedita. So the money changer. Listen to this. He's he's brought in the Gemara. He's like a Tanna. He says one day shows up. Who's the son of the smith? Guy that works with metal. Who's the son that works with metal? The famous his father seems like maybe a simpler person a smith guy. How do you call him a smith? Smith what do you how do you call him? No but the word is smith but does it have a certain blacksmith? Maybe blacksmith yeah. He says shows up at my shop. Why he wants money coins I could he could show the tell me them how big is is missing from the corner and makes it treif. This is an amazing story. I try to stand up. Like like Yoni Meisels works for Simon. He doesn't own the change. I wanted to stand up like this like you do for a godel. The godel is all He was the greatest. Reb Loisha Fkani and he said it's also for you to stand up for me. Omar Ali Shave and he shaved. Sit down. When you work for somebody So says the Gamorah and I'll bring you a riot. That it's not a riot. Kash of a loy, but none. Call Balu and he said to them we're talking about the Bikurim. So now they come to Jerusalem and all the workers get up and give them a lot of covid. How do they get up and give them covid? You know I stand up. You have to continue working. Now these guys look like they were battling over there. Maybe they were storing over. Okay. Fine. Point is You see the guy got up for them. But Shimon listened to this. They say to them and she won't complain. Ah. Shalom. So one of the quotas that I want to point out here it's unbelievable human nature. If the whole Jerusalem, they all got up for you You got it. They're not getting up for you. They got it for you and you and you and you. Thousands of people coming and all the thousands everybody gets up and gives them all covid. You got to feel so good to get some covid. You know, a little covid even if you know that everybody else is getting it. It feels good. It's shmack. It's called Adam and Duma. It's called covid. It's fake. All covid is fake. But but this is not obvious. No, it still gives the guy a little you know, tickle like Feels good. They stood up for me. It's not not for you. It's the other guy. You're not I know he's not standing up for me. He's standing up for everybody. The whole the whole family is here. The whole the whole is just came. Everybody. No. So that's one of the quotas. Another good. A beautiful good here. Why are you going to come over here? Says the Gamora, we're done with this. Just want to say this is a good. Maybe they maybe try maybe they might win them. You'll stand up for the people bringing the good news. Cuz we want them to come again next year. And whatever the is, either the is the right to be in the or maybe the is that every owner wants his employees to stand up for them. It's a cover for him. >> He's got the light. He said all you rate. >> Uh Look how much it's beautiful this mix up. I will say have a wonderful day. >> Merit is close to spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. 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