CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 48 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning BOYS AND I. >> [clears throat] >> WE'RE HOLDING THE FROM ZION AND BASE. THE from Zion and base. All the way in the bottom. We we actually have uh a picture here. So here we have a lung. And the lung became decayed. It it ate itself out. And we're going to here to take a look at this picture. All you have >> [cough and clears throat] >> is an empty bag. Much of my the first thing I thought about when I when I started learning this Gamara is today when you buy a bag of potato chips, you open it up, it's all air, and there's a little bus on the bottom somewhere. You got to like search around for it. So this is like a bunch of air. It just has the the membrane. You see in the bottom right corner it's membrane. Even if that membrane is the size of a kazayis or more, just a just a bunch of hot air, this is not treif. Not treif. If the lung deteriorates, what's a good word? Not decay. Um like falls apart. Disintegrates. Disintegrates from within side. But the membrane, the plastic bag on the outside is still there. I feel like that is revised. Even if the the the amount it's a large amount. It's a like in this picture you could see it's it's it's uh >> [clears throat] >> it's a good revis. You could put a whole cup of wine in this thing in the bottom. It's clear. So it's still treif. Nick Lasha Puka slow. If I were to ask you stam, common sense, if the womb of the cow goes missing, is that a treif? The answer is no. Why not? Cuz it could live. You you could be a male and not have a woman live. It's not a It's not a necessary thing to have. So, treif. It Leah, and that's because it's completely removed. It Leah, what if Kavichala, the liver becomes full of parasites, full of worms? Zel Masevalola Leavening people from Schwartz came only out of the game three. Doesn't necessarily mean three times three three Shabbatones, three gatherings of three Yaki Kallahs. They came to Israel. The regular on the third time they were able to get them to get a rove and the rove of them the rove of the Sanhedrin said, "This is muter. This is Why? Because this liver is going to heal." Omar Rabina Nachman Reo Daifen ain law. So, this is this is like the juice part of of the problem that we have today with a shairim. Not the problem with a shairim, the problem why we need a shairim. And what the big issue of treifases and that is sircha. Again, sircha is when it gets glued and stuck, the lung gets stuck to something, sometimes to itself. And now we're discussing when the lung gets stuck to the wall of the animal. Unbelievable picture here, you can see the ribs and you see the the string. This is the sircha. As explained yesterday according to Rashi, not all of you showing me agree with this, but Rashi holds that a sircha is created from a wound. There's some sort of hole somewhere. And out of that hole oozes whatever it is a secretion to plug it up. And now that secretion goes from the from the lung to the wall. So there's two possibilities. Either the hole is in the lung which would make it no good a treif, or the hole is on the wall. Which would make it okay. It's allowed to have a little hole in a rib. And that's that that's the question here. What am I looking at? Am I looking at a treif or not a treif? This exactly what our sheep when we shucked it a couple weeks ago, this exactly what it had. This exact thing I saw with my own eyes. He said, "Look look inside over here." And you saw that the lung was connected to the diaphragm. Mom is like that. Now we're going to see in the Gemara that's a lot better when it's connected not to the rib, in between the ribs, in the meat. That's a that's a much better thing. When we say it's mutar, it's talking about connected. Over here I don't know where where where's it connected over here? Looks like on the rib. This might be problematic according to the Gemara later. But there's another one I see behind. Well, there's a bunch. So it says like this. Rav Nachman says Rav Nachman we have to remember. This is the sugya today. Most of it. Re'ah has smucha l'daifin. The lung smucha doesn't mean next to because every lung in the world is next to. It means it's glued to. Glued to l'daifin. Ein chashisha lo. You don't have to worry about the there's a hole. Why? Because we're going to assume that it came from the wall and not from the the lung. Now I think it's super interesting cuz even in today today's daf, we're going to see that we have a similar we have a a different question. We have a needle, the question of a needle. You find a needle inside a lung. And you can't see a hole. And over there we assume the worst cuz safek d'oraita l'chumra. Why over there do we assume the worst and over here we don't assume the worst? You have two possibilities, good and bad. Why not say it's bad? We have to see the the machine discuss it. Hell sits mocking. If right next to the this uh the circle you get a bunch of blisters like this. You see over here blisters? Hell sits mocking if next to the circle all of a sudden you have a not problem number two which is a bunch of blisters So, what is this indicating to me? That there's an issue with the lung. The lung is having issues. It's having blisters and it has some hole somewhere that the secretion the circle came out of the obviously came out of the lung. Whether it has the these blisters these small ones or not Let's assume the worst and let's assume that the circle came out of the lung. I have dinner but I want to eat. This is a $2,000 animal minimum minimum. What should I do? All my rather Robin Bar Shabba has really says Robin I got this idea from Robin Bar Shabba. My scene in Sakina the college. Interesting cuz if you don't have an art scroll and you read the word college and you everybody understands college means weak. Over here means the opposite of weak. It means a very very sharp knife. The college will make or if I can allow. Yeah, I thought oh maybe means it's like not so sharp. It's not going to cause too much damage. It's not No, the opposite. You want to be very very very very sharp very small and it does the job. Over here you can allow you take it apart and then you check. If there's you see a hole in the wall of the animal telling me about the life and then I can automatically to that this whole circle came >> from the lung. from the wall. You see, you notice this. It doesn't say I hear noise coming out of the lung. I saw a hole in the lung. If I cannot understand that it came from the wall, I don't have no reason to believe that it came from the wall, automatically I'm going to say it came from the lung, no good. Even though there's no sound coming out of the the lung, but I don't have a good reason to believe it came from the wall, let's assume the war is it came from the lung and it's treif. So says the Gamara, you should know that he didn't rely on all this. He checked it out with water. In other words, it wasn't enough for him to say, "Oh, it's probably came from the wall. Let me put some Let me put this lung blow blow it up. Put it in a a vat of water and see if any bubbles come out." I need to see this is not from the lung. This idea, this thing that I don't rely on just checking with the knife sharp knife. I need to put it in the warm water. I don't know how much needs to blow. You okay, you have your tradition, you got it that he said this trick when the lung is attached to the wall. But I say on yesterday yesterday's that Remember this one, check this out. We said if there's a circle between two ears two ears it's get one and three. Not one and two, one and three. The problem is eventually it's going to snap and the hole become exposed. That's where I said that if you have a circle between one and three, put it in a vat of water. That's where he said it. Not on Not on a lung that's attached to a wall, on a lung that's attached to a lung. It's different a different different different problem. You have the two >> You have the two [clears throat] ears of the lungs that are attached to each other. The one and the three. Let's do the good luck surely. There's no way to check it. No, it's okay. Check it out in warm water. It's a big enough hole. Here, Ravash is going to ask a bomb question. He wrote Ravash is the one who wrote the Gemara, who put it all together at the end. So, he asked I might I don't understand. Fish in the hole in our Sugya of a lung attached to a wall. I have a reason to get out of it. I could say this is a kosher animal. Why? Because the hole didn't come from the lung, it came from a wall. Great. I will ask him, but when the problem is either the hole. There's a hole over here. It's either from one or from three. So, what what difference does it make? If it's treif. If number three one of them has a hole in it, it's treif. And there's a sircha here. So, there's a hole. So, what do you gain? Water is not going to help us out. Now we're going back to the first thing that he said. The what? Rav Nachman says that if there's a a lung that's attached to a wall, but it also has flowers on it as much as it has these blisters. This picture, yeah, this picture we said that it's treif. We don't have Nachman Rav Nachman. If you have a lung that has a hole in it, of the animal um what's the good word? Clogs it up. Is there a better word? The wall seals the hole. It's it's not a big deal this hole. The animal is not going to lose that much oxygen. It has a natural sealant. Like Ashi. >> Who's that much oxygen? It has a natural sealant. Like as you. So what says, let's make an El Camino. Yes, there is a concept that there's a natural sealant. We saw that and we're going to talk about it again about the liver and the gallbladder. The liver seals the gallbladder. There's a natural seal. It depends where in the body. Let's use common sense. There's two parts. Like as you have some working with me. So let's say that working with me. So where it's natural for it to seal it, then great. And where it's not natural to seal it, not. They have some working with me. So where is it natural and where does it give it a good seal? Where does it put pressure on the wound? On the hole? He took it away. Here, check this out. If we're looking at the animal, not like we typically look at it, but now heads up. >> [snorts] >> Usually it's head down. Heads up. Where you could see how all of a sudden that's where it's neck starts. It becomes narrower. So it becomes narrower, there's much more pressure on that una. We're talking about the una on top. The una is these the three guys, right? So since over there there's a lot of pressure from the wall. You can see the wall of the animal. Great. But lower down on the on the uma, sorry, on the uma, there's not a lot of pressure. That's what they I don't know the exact mitzi's, but that's the mitzi's. There's it's wider over there in the animal. The lung is floating around. It's not that close to the wall to the wall of the animal and therefore the wall doesn't give it a nice natural seal. Okay? Goofa. Omar of Yosi Yumi Omar of Nachman Rayosh Nikva Vadoifens Tuktzeira. So that's the Sugya today. You have a [clears throat] lung that has a hole in it and the wall seals it. Kosher. Omar of who the sub of the bisra provided that the attachment is to the flesh of the animal or not the lung like here in this picture. Beautiful. You see the sircha in the meaty part and not on the bony part. And if it's not attached to the rib, what's the law? It's treif. Why? Cuz he's assuming that there's a hole. to the meaty part? It has a hole. Possible nation choices. We're talking about a zachar. A man's zachar, if it has a hole, it's called a There's different sulam that he's not allowed to get married. One of them is krischaver. And the reason is they should choices. You have to have a situation where the zera comes out like a like an arrow. Comes out forcefully. And if it just dribbles out, choices, then he's not allowed to get married. Nistam kosher. In this situation, if it plugged up, then it's kosher. He's kosher. He can marry. You can have children. You can have children. Then the day you can have children. But pay attention to this next word. Just the word. V'zehu. This is one case in shas that if you have a hole and you're possible, but the hole plugs up, that's a possible that was no good and became good. But that's one time in shas. Meaning in our sugia, anywhere else in shas where there's a hole and it's possible, and the hole came plugged up, you plugged up the hole, it remains possible. A lung that has a hole in it, and it and you plug it up, it remains possible. The chiyara. What's v'zehu? Unbelievable jump. We're going from a zachar human being to a lung of an animal. V'zehu. And the Gamara says you're 100% right. The you inferred correctly and that jump from a human being zachor is tall a lung of an animal is a great jump, but the wrong case. There's two cases in an animal. You're talking about a lung that had a puncture and got the wall to to plug it up. There's another one. My love the muta with all the muta the might with the word result what does it come to exclude? Our our case of a lung that has a puncture and got plugged up from the wall. Lie. Similar, but not not really. The muta krum shalom they didn't krum. Another case that we had the other day where there's a hole in the lung and there was a scab. And that you should know the scab doesn't work. That's what the result means. A scab that's similar to what happens by a zachor that will pop off and it won't be a good plug. And that that's what the we're coming to exclude. That case is not good. Muscular about a hole. What are you telling me? That if the wall the says if the wall of the animal plugs it up it's okay. You know my treifor. Take a look at this beautiful beautiful um what the ocean did here give all the should be give all the can't get any better for now. Here you have a hole in the lung. Hole in the lung, yeah? Zoom in on it. Nice hole. But you have the meat of the animal that the plugs it up not considered a hole. And what if you unplug that meat? You go like this. Obviously right now the lung has a hole in it. So so what's our it's going to be treif. So how come this case is not in the Mishnah? It should say in the Mishnah that if I make a hole in the hide of the animal which lines up with a hole an existing hole in the lung. If it just there's a little hole in the lung, it's kosher. But since there's another hole in the hide, now the lung became possible. No, so what's the obvious answer? Now you're making combinations of holes. We're not discussing not creating. We're talking about one single hole in the gallbladder, a single hole in the base of the in the in the liver and the You tell me two holes that are that line up, okay. to say another treif of number 19 that if you poke the hole in the wall of the animal and it lines up with the hole in the lung, all of a sudden you have a new hole, a new a new treif. Remember this case? What do you have over here? It looks I'm just looking at this. It's funny. It's a it's a liver and a gallbladder on top of the liver. So he said that the liver plugs up that hole if the hole faces the liver. If it's on the side of the gallbladder and and it doesn't face the liver, no good. So so I could come up with the same idea. Oh, and what if I puncture the hole through the liver and I got to the other side I and my hole through the liver lines up with the gallbladder, it's not going to be a good plug. And if you did the same trick with the lung, you did it to the liver, went through and through the liver, got to the hole of the gallbladder, it's not a good plug, treif. Oh, so just say number 19 in the mishna of this treif. So [clears throat] why is that not a question? I look unique for the love me name you're talking about a a hole that comes from another organ of the animal. That we're not talking about that. We're talking about a hole in the gallbladder, a hole in the liver, not a hole through the liver that gets to the gallbladder. So here I mean over here when you're talking about a hole that didn't the treif is not because it has a hole in the lung. Treif is because it has a hole in the wall of the animal that lines up with the hole in the lung. Like that that's not something we're going to talk about in the Mishna. Rava and Rav Kahana and Shmuel Rav Kahana asked Shmuel How is it Shmuel come out? Another question. What if you have like this picture? Literally like this picture cuz this picture we're saying this is in conjunction with a sircha. When you have adhesion of a secretion of a sircha that came out of the lung and hit the wall plus you have these these blisters. Oh, that's an indication that the secretion came out of the lung and not the wall. But what if you only have blisters? No no no sircha at all. How is it Shmuel come out? On the right side that's okay. So again, if you come you see this disgusting lung. You look at the you're walking by the butcher and you see a lung hanging you might as well say for sale and it has these gross blisters. In your mind wow this animal is is a really sickly animal. No, kosher. It gets even better about you say. Oh well they have any other shot tell me them misdanzen the dog. I I agree with you that if it has these blisters and scratches you should know that tell me them they're so they say they they don't agree so much. >> [clears throat] >> Really? That's what he says over there. No that's that's >> [snorts] >> It means the same thing. It was coming coming means I'm unsure Don't worry about the malyu muglo treif. If the blister has pus in it, is it treif? My second treif here we have a beautiful picture, very appetizing. >> [snorts] >> This banana yogurt on the left. And clear water on the right. Clear water is good. Banana, no good. No, no, no. You know you tell me they are making mistake. This banana and there's water but it wasn't referring to mix up the mix up the halacha. They that was talking about a kidney. A kidney has such a halacha. If the pus blister full of water, it's okay. And if it's full of pus, not okay. But not not not not a long. Ishmak. I I just said it. I didn't explain it. I didn't say anything. Talking about a kidney. So boy said I got it. was walking behind in the marketplace the butchers place where they sell meat. And he saw lungs hanging there with a bunch of blisters. Yum. He tried to get his want to see if would buy this meat himself. She said I thought the said don't forget to buy meat. Here's a good time. It's a great opportunity to buy meat. I forgot my wallet. I'm going to go. She said he doesn't have a wallet. Not a problem. I have credit with this guy. You got on my bill. Don't worry about it. I'm telling you I don't have a wallet. I have what you trying to do. Get the get the no. now is it now you're trying something else. May maybe have I have credit. I'm not interested in meat right now from this guy. But I need to push on. I need to know the halachas. I'm going to try everything I can. He says, "My Rebbi what can I do with you?" When such a question with blisters would come to Rebbi Yochanan, Rebbi Yochanan would say, "Go ask Rebbi Yehudah the son of Rebbi Shimon bar Chiyya." The Myanma Mishnah Rebbi Elazar bar Rebbi Shimon he got from his brother Rebbi Elazar let payra. He has a heter. "I can't give you a heter," says Rebbi Yochanan. "I never heard from my Rebbi. I think it's assur. I I want to say that it's assur, but I never heard m'forash from my Rebbi that it's assur. So, I'm not going to say anything, but I can't pasken on this." Rebbi Yochanan himself holds that it's assur. He told him, "Go over there. You want a heter? Go go ask so-and-so." Omar Rabba, "And I may let me too. He's trying to get from me that this is muttar. Also, I'm not going to I can't pasken on this." Omar Rebbi Chiyya bar Abba b'shukha d'ramachna d'shukha d'gildai, when I used to go behind my Rebbi in in the the marketplace of leather. Here we just a picture from our last trip in Morocco. There's a whole leather place over there. So, you know, you see from the Gemara here that the talmidim that they would walk behind the Rebbi to see what's going on. Some people say this is in the marketplace of Rabbonan. Trying to think where in the world is a marketplace of Rabbonan. Every yeshiva these days has the chavruta shuk. You know, the the tummel. That's the that's the marketplace of Rabbonan. Chazi had the kaiman kande literally kande kande is in English candy. Candy candy. Look at this. Mamash beautiful stuff. On the lung. It doesn't get any more candyish than this. It's a little slightly larger than simcha. And the next one is tin ray tin ray. According to Rashi there's a different sizes. So, I'll never forget this one because this was So, even though they passed by, and who was it? It was Rav Nachman who saw this. He saw these sickly looking lungs. He says, "Okay, let them continue selling the meat." Rav Nachman who saw all the way in the beginning of Shas in Brochos daf ches, it says over there that Rav Nachman used to dive in between the the beams. So, you know that they lived in Tiveria. The to the beams in Tiveria, it says over there. They lived in Tiveria. They're walking there in the shuk. These are these are mamish large ones. Also, if you look at this picture, you'll see they're like stone-like in terms of the you know, when you touch them, they feel the the consistency is like a stone. For the Rav Nachman, it didn't didn't uh bother them at all. Continue selling. It doesn't doesn't ruin the animal. Itmar. Machat she nimtzas b'reiya. So, a fascinating fascinating Sugya. You open up an animal and you you notice, let's say let's say, just as example, you blow up the lung, it's it's sealed. Nothing. It doesn't have any holes. You open up the lung to eat it or whatever, you find a nice a nice needle inside. How in the world did the needle get in there? Huh? Wasn't the hesta'ah. He swallowed it. If he swallowed it, then oh oh oh, they said breathed it. Because there's a big difference. If he breathed it in, then it's kosher. Because it didn't have to puncture anything. It went through the windpipe, through the trachea, and found itself in the lung. But if if he ate it, how did it get to the from eating, okay? It's not like kids think. You eat it, and it just goes into a big hole. It went through a pipe, through the four stomachs, and all of a sudden lands in a lung. It must have I'm going to show you how. Here comes the needle. He He breathed it in. It went through the esophagus and it went to the into the lung. The Gemara understands now that should be okay. It popped in the didn't didn't puncture anything. But what if this happened? He digested it with the hay. Uh it went through the whole system, pops out into the lung. What's the problem here everybody say? Two problems. It made two holes in two problematic places. Problem number one, it made a hole in the intestine. Even a small hole in intestines treif. Problem number two, it made a hole in the lung. Small hole in the lung is a problem. So you have a a double whammy here. Now I don't know. I don't have a hole in the lung. I did my my water test and it's not bubbling. But I have I have a matzeah. Which I can't I'm not going to say I understand it 100%. You have I do understand. You have a needle in a lung. How did it get there? You need to explain to me how it got there. I need to assume the worst. Svekol chomerah, svekol chomerah. The worst is he ate it. He didn't he didn't breathe it. That's normal. Makas chinuch you find it inside the lung. They say it's okay. Why? Because it came through the trachea. They say it is no good because it came through the intestine. If you have a choser from inside the animal So what does that mean? This is beautiful. Take a look at this. Choser he did a great job here. Why? Because a needle usually doesn't create a choser. A needle creates a negev. A needle creates a hole but not it doesn't nothing goes missing. If If you put a needle in your finger, will part of your finger go missing? No, it moves the skin away and the needle it goes in. Says Rashi, no, because it's metal, it's a needle. So, look at this needle, it's all rusty. Rust eats up the the the meat. You see over there, he did great. Right over there, rust and no meat. So, you have a little bit of a chaser, but inside the lung is it the is the chaser inside the lung is that considered a chaser or not? Chaser chaser chaser in my soul That's my loy. That's not the That's not the chaser. The coolly I'm a chaser loy chaser inside the Everybody agrees that if it comes from within the lung, that's not a problem. What about the argument of the case? So, what is the case? My service is pointing at the soy. That Those are the two videos that I showed you. Woman says, no, it came through the trachea. Came through the trachea is okay. You have my service in the queen knocking at the soy. It had to make two holes to get out of the intestines into the lung and that's why it's a problem. Says the marai to the stalker to the rail. Somebody was cutting up a lung. He was eating it for dinner and sure enough, he bites down on a nice crunchy piece of metal. He looks into it and he sees that it's a needle. I saw the camel there by Ami. So, he brought it to Ami. He wanted to be master it. Why? Cuz he says it came from the trachea. I swear to Rabbi Ami that I came to Zreka. I rushed in to Kosra and this is the food that we had yesterday. We're going to have it twice again today. It says in the mission of two treifas, a neck of and a chaser. My Kosra, you lay my Kosra. If it's missing a piece of lung from the outside, I knew it isn't that the same exact idea of a of a hole? I don't have anything to say. You have to say one is inside, one is outside. My Kosra my Kosra. So, don't you see from over here >> So don't you see from over here that even though it came from the within, not from the outside, the inside of the lung is considered a treif. Again, treif is. came from the outside and identical. wouldn't mention the same exact treif a twice in a row. One is comes from the outside, one comes from the inside. One is from the inside, one is from the outside. So we have a metal object in a lung which rust, it could take away a little bit of the meat from the within side. You see that's a treif and that's a treif. They sent it to the and said this is treif. What are we going to do? We learned that say that it's kosher. What's the connection? When they said it's kosher, They had the whole lung in front of them and they blew it up. They did all sorts of tests in water and they saw that there is no hole. So they decided, it must have come from him inhaling it through the trachea. But over here you're talking about a piece. It's a piece of a lung. Maybe if I had the whole entire lung in front of me and I blew it up and I see that there's a hole. Time also says the the lesser. This is because I don't have the lung. But if I have it in front of me and there's no hole, it seems like it would be kosher if I blew it up and did all the tests. I said the real the treif. So let's take a look at this. This is this is a very very important. How does it work? You have a trachea, the main pipe. And then it splits off to smaller and smaller and smaller pipes and then brings oxygen to the entire lung. Now, if you have a needle down here, how did it get there? It had to come through one of the bronchus. And And if it came through one of the What do they call them in English? Bronchi. Well, I got to find them if there's a puncture in a bronchi or bronchiole, whatever you want to call it, it's treif. How in the world did you find this needle in the meat part of a lung if it didn't cut through and make its way puncture out of the bronchi? How did it get in there? And that makes it treif either way. So, the Gemara no, it doesn't make it treif. I have a friend of mine. When you have, like on the right, like these chicken legs on the right, when you have a hole in one of the bronchi and it The only thing next to it is another bronchi, so two tough substances are not going to He's not going to close up the hole. The guy on the left is not going to close up the hole on the right. But if you're That's when they're together, but if you have a hole and lower down where there's a lot of meat, the the meat of the of the of the lung is all over the place. So, if I have a hole in that tube, what's going to happen? The meat of the lung is going to go into the hole and plug it up. It's not a It's not a a solid rule that if there was a hole in the bronchi that it's treif. If there's a hole in the bronchi and there's no meat next to it, then it's treif. I have a friend of mine. Only then there's a friend, another guy next to him. So, if you were at the shchita, you saw this is beautiful. This is the Adura de Kanta, unbelievable. What is it? Let me show you a better picture even. This is all from the shchita. This is the intestines. In between the intestines there's fat. That fat, by the way, is kosher. One of the fats that's kosher. So, if there's a hole in the intestines, there's a hole, but it's in that area, I'm going to assume that one intestine plugged up the other. The next to each other there's a plug. I'm going to ask you a question. Let's use some logic over here. >> [snorts] >> What's worse? If somebody I'm doing this only for demonstration purposes. It shouldn't be any of this to get this question. If somebody cuts his finger off completely over here, where does he have a bigger chance of not making it? Cutting the finger over here or cutting the hand up here? Where does a person have more of a chance of dying from? Cutting up. So, let's Let me ask you the same question. On an animal, where do you have a bigger chance of the animal dying? When you cut it on its thigh up up up above or all the way in the bottom by your by his like next to his hoof? Where Where would he have a greater chance to die? You go with this logic, it should be the top. But, the fact is that's the opposite. That if you cut from the bottom, he has more of a chance to die. And they say, I I just looked it up quickly on on on on Google, whatever, on Chat GPT. It says that the reason is cuz it has less blood vessels to heal it. And even today, uh veterinarians have a very hard time if a horse or cattle injure themselves down below, very hard time healing. Up above, so So, the mayor says, "Therefore, what do you see from here? Don't use your own logic when it comes to treifas." Don't say, "Oh, when it comes to the When it comes to the intestines over there, you see one hole plugs another hole. So, maybe in lungs also. No connection. Lungs is lungs, harder material. This is kishkas. This is softer. Different things. Says the mayor doing the kind of the They had a hole next to each other. And one shields the other. It plugs the other. And the mayor law, so too by the bronchi, we'll say that one plugs the other. You're You're trying to compare a different type of treif a lungs to the intestines? And I remember Travis who done was who there's no such thing. Shari if you cut a leg of a animal on the bottom it will die in certain ways. The certain ways they cut on top you could also kill an animal if you do the right way on top it could survive. It's not getting better but okay we'll stop here sura and have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the source of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. Mdy.sponsor.com or [email protected]