CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 45 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. [screaming] We're starting out with a little of and then we're moving on to a lot of different animal parts. We're going to learn about them in great detail from head to toe literally is the like 12 lines from the bottom maybe more 8 10 12 14 lines from the bottom. who is considered says is a person who no isn't that where we're holding >> you here who's >> a person who has that doesn't have to give when he loses something he does I recognize this thing it's mine a person sees his own animal and he looks at he says this is a tra instead Instead of trying to bear and coming up with every type of in the world to eat it, he says, "No, I'm going to be not going to eat this." That's what does it mean? I hate gifts. He says that this animal is a he had a gift. He could have he could have he could have taken it for himself. No. to call me anybody that learns understands it well he learns and he and he looks at his own animal he says this is I'm not eating it he went ahead and he and he served there's a whole there's a constantly talks about there's something learning from a book there's something doing physical to your the hard work from your physical hands. You're going to eat. What? There's a good song for this. You get two worlds. When the also a wealthy person would send him like a gift, he wouldn't take the gift. And when they invited him for a meal, he wouldn't go again. You don't want me to live? I don't understand. You're trying to kill me here. If you hate gifts, you live. If you take gifts, it seems like you don't live as long. Says when they sent him a gift, he wouldn't accept it. A nice golden bottle of wine, a nice silver cup to drink from, they wouldn't take it. That's different. That's for the part for the I'm taking it. [snorts] But when they would invite him, he would go. Imagine imagine if ate in your house. Is that a for him or for you? I mean, who who wins over here? The galador sits in your house. You're and the Reb eats in your house. The comes to visit you and eats a a little shabas by you. Who who who benefited here? You or the Reb? you Omar they have covered by the fact that is there is not mine. Okay. So here we go. We're going back into hands on. So we were discussing the trachea the kana the windpipe. So we know that if it if it's open ro more than 50% it's it's strafe. Now what if it's not open like this? It has tiny little holes in it uh like this. Let's say little tiny holes. These are pictures from so how do you how do you decide if it's a ribe or not? says, "You take all the little holes, all the ear, and you you combine them together. You do a a calculation. How much if you put all the little holes together, you don't >> holes like that?" Like, what's the >> I don't know what why a worm ate from it or I don't know. Now, it depends. If a worm ate from it, then it would beer. So the is going to discuss and the is going to say at the end it's not it's like somebody took a needle and poked it but nothing's missing physically and it weighs the same. It has the same amount of flesh just punctured in pushed in. >> Matzah >> like a matzah. A guy took a a matzah thing over its neck. It uh I don't know what it was grazing and a bunch of thorns got it in the in the ka. So if you if you also take the the piece of meat in between the holes, let's assume we're just looking at the holes themselves all the holes together. If it's 51% of the circumference of the then it's straight. So I I couldn't put the picture because I didn't have my phone. But there's a picture. Maybe the editors will throw it in there. So this is the gyus we're talking about. It's interesting. They use the thing of an animal. So it says if it has a long stretch cut like that or little tiny holes like this. But say you get the idea. If it has a bunch of holes that together it's the size of is so it doesn't give off tuma but it's not a it's not an animal skull it's a human skull fine maybe just not now we know a skull without any other bones creates to of now if it's missing a part of the skull then it doesn't give toma how much is it missing either a long a long uh cut in it or even it has like a bunch of small holes This is a shear called like a oldfashioned drill bit whatever the the shear is and it's on the bottom whole thing 3 mm whatever it is. So if all the holes together have the shear of a of a drill bit, then it's not a real skull and it doesn't give off the tum like a skull. But it mentions here a shear of a now get you you put it all together to see if it's the size of a drill bit. Over here the shear is here. This is an isser. Let's say pretend this is an isser. It's a type of a coin. Put all the holes together and see if it adds up to this coin. What are you telling me? What does have to do here? There's a there's a says you're asking the question because you you simply forgot something. You forgot what Rav says. What? It depends. There's a difference. Check this out. Beautiful picture from the if you actually remove the flesh. So then you add up all the little circles or whatever they are and see if they add up to this is coin. But we're not talking about that. But over here it's just a puncture. The flesh is still there. Nothing was removed. Then you do arrive. [clears throat] Now, if we're missing, this is just the other picture of the you take all the little pieces that I'm missing. See if it has a hole that size. So, here we have uh a windpipe that has a whole stretch of it is missing. size. Even though it's let's say square, you just you take the whole surface area and see how much is missing. If it's the size of a of a coin, then it go we do it together and we say it's the size of coin and it's straight. We just said if they're missing literally took the flesh out, the worm ate it. Then the shear is the size of a coin. This is super interesting. Reg guarding a bird. What's because? Because a bird, this is way too large for a bird. This whole pipe is uh is the size of a half a pencil. How how you going to use this is on something this size you can do is you have this guy this is like a real animal thing. So is makes sense but not on a bird. She says what do you do? I heard this from you fold it up and you put it on the opening of the trachea if it fits in the opening of the conra. And now I'm going to show you what it is live. Imagine you have a bunch of holes in this trachea right over here. So what do you do? Says and this is this is the trachea of a bird. Okay? And ostrich doesn't even have this size. Okay? So what you do is you go like this. Oh, so now I took it out. I took I took the whole the whole part with the holes is out. Now I take this. >> This is what I drilled out. This is what I cut out. And then you take this piece and you see if it fits in this corner like this. If it's ro or not. Is this ro? What do you guys say? >> It's not a ro. No way. Is this a It's not 51%. >> Surface area or by radius. >> Does it fill up? Does it not the radius surface? >> Yeah. Does it fill up the surface? I don't see it filling up. I took this piece from here. This is where I had all my little holes. I cut them out. And now I'm going to see if it fills up this gap. And that's how I decide by a bird because I don't have a iser. Great. That's very clear. So let's see inside. Basically, you cut it out. You fold it over. The point is and you put it in the opening of the trachea. If it fills up most of this opening, then it's a Papa. So anyways, this is like the see the what this is the this is like the ka this is like the trachea and you put that thing in the opening to remember you put it in the opening or other people can remember the way Stfans did with the drill in the middle of the year. Fine. I'm not going to do this again. I did it last night. Let me see if I can find it. >> No, not this one. This one. >> Oh, here. Check this out. You see it's closed. Oh, it was really hard. I don't know why it was hard for me to cut. But if you have a opening like this in the trachea, but it closes. It's only cut on three sides. So, it actually could close a little bit. So, what's [clears throat] not like a soda machine that you open this up or in Chicago? I don't even know if they still use that word pop. Pop machine. Not like this way, but flat. Not this way. You have to see how much surface area this takes up. If it's the size of a is then it's traved. What if it has a slit down down the length of it? Now the interesting thing about a slit down the length. If you think about it, what's easier for an animal to heal from a slit like this or a slit like on the screen down the length? What's easier to heal? >> Huh? >> Not not not straight. >> So, no, >> this is harder to heal. Think about it. Every time the animal bends its neck down, it pops open. It just keeps on popping open and closed. So, it'll never get a chance to heal. But when it's down the length, every time it bends down, it's actually closing. It closes. This the tension closes it up. So ma that's why we're very make with a long a cut down the down the length when you read it means a single ring but Rashi says no over here means according to the that he prefers it means three rings. So if you look in our gam it doesn't even say it just says hy three rings that's it no notes three rings why three rings says when you do titus we learned you have to do means you go around three times that's the that's the basics so the one means three over here also means three rings they said this over what are you talking about what is he talking Why do you need any rings? This is we're not concerned about a cut down the length of the trachea. As long as a tiny bit at the end, well, both ends, then we're good. You don't need rings. They said over to you know said the same thing like you didn't know that in bubble they know how to learn like that. Wow. Very impressed. call. Imagine a giraffe. The entire neck is kosher for you to do on the whole neck area of a cow. So this is our cow. The entire neck just what's the problem? Now that is a little problematic. Let's just remember if this is uh is the last ring basically and it's called because it's larger and it goes around and around circumference. It's all um cartilage material around and around. Oh, I even I got a a good picture here from Visa picture. Here it is. You see the cartilage all in a complete circle. You can actually see I believe those are the >> if I'm not if I'm not mistaken. But anyways, that that's a nice tabas. go from that area all the way to the to the lungs. But we're in the lungs. Listen to this. How could that be? You go to the bottom of the lung. So the gar explains right away. No, the bottom which is the upper one. What does that mean? So what? Let's just explain what he's saying. This is the lung. So it means the upper part of the lung. You could cut that trachea pipe to the first when you blow it up like a balloon and it's obviously going to spread everywhere. So the first lobe up to the first lobe. So why are you calling it? The answer is because usually after you shed an animal, what do you do to it? >> You hang it upside down. So when you're looking now the the the the now is the you're from the bottom of the picture upwards till that this is called and we're going to do this another time also if if the guy knows what he's doing he wouldn't shaft he already now I want to check it it's already it's already it's up there what what does it mean normal action that an animal takes, he constantly moves its neck up and down, up and down. So all that part of the neck that goes up and down while it's alive, that's it's don't give it a nice yank and then check normal normal movement. In other words, don't pull out pipe from its lung and start checking down there. Whatever is within the neck area of a normal motion, that's what you're what if itself today in the really pull that neck very unnaturally. So obviously they're not going to all the way at the ends. It's just the the center part is there for the but let's say it did it to itself. It moved its neck in a crazy B. It was trying to lick something off its back and it started like pulling its neck and then the guy goes and he shuckss it all the way on the you know got its knife all the way on the bottom but next to the lungs. Is that okay? What do we do in all the keeps on saying means we got to be you can't eat from this meat means we got to wait until Msiah but right now what do we do? You don't eat. They came up with if he forced him lower down, he forced them out of their place, so to speak. He pulled them out more. What if the trachea got punctured lowered down by the let's say closer very close to the lung? Then it has like a lung. And what's lung? If there's a puncture wound of a mashu in a lung, then it is tra. So too in this in this trachea, that part of the trache is also like a lung and a mashu is tra moving from thing to thing. It's unbelievable. We're talking about aim. You give aim, you have to give when you bring aim, you get to eat it, but you have to first give a gift to the ken. Now this is not a cheap gift. Realizing now this is a pretty nice gift that you have to give the kite before you can eat anything. You have to give the the breast of this animal. What does it mean? The the one facing the ground from where to wherever all the way to the neck lial up until the the until the stomach. What does that mean? So here here it is. Here's the picture. That whole red area is facing the ground. We're going up is on the picture to the left. Down is to the towards the neck. Why is it like that? I I Yoshi wasn't around. So, we did it ourselves. Dave did it last night. I just added the thing. Up is the left ar is the red arrow. Down is the blue arrow. In other words, when the animal's hanging upside down, Yoshi would have done a lot nicer. So, now the car is up and the neck is down because it's hanging upside down. Also, let's go back to the picture. Not get dizzy here. See you you the blue the blue uh area over there is the first rib. So, hold they take one rib from each side from the right and left. So, that's called straight slice. According to tus, it's two on each side. Go two down. This is what we give. Next it says in the if you punctured the membrane around the brain that's a trad there are two membranes. Now the problem is problem it's difficult to even see the membrane around the brain. Here's a great picture from Kalash. So you can see on the left the left that's one membrane. You see that folded piece of skin? That's a membrane. This is the membrane around the brain. Now, why is it so difficult? Cuz it's clear. It's like a little plastic bag, a very, very thin layer of plastic, so to speak, grabbing the entire brain, puts it in its place. It's pillarri how everything works. That brain central nerve system that gives it whatever the whole thing, and it's protected by a little a little bag. If it has one tiny little puncture in that bag is maybe the question is which which which bag are we talking about? The one that's closest to the skull on the left the folded piece of skin which is the thicker and it's very easy to see or the very thin one. If you punctured right through the skull into that big that thick piece of skin that membrane even though you didn't get to the lower membrane you are you made this animal tra you need to to puncture the bottom one in order to make it a trauma [snorts] this this bag that the brain is in it. So that's the bottom. That's the lower one. That's the thinner one. The one that's hard to to to discern. You should know that the batim also have two membranes. Besides the outer pouch, there's two membranes here. Here's the outer membrane. And here's the inner one. The inner one is very it's like almost colorful. So you can see in a second. Here's a vice showing you the difference between the outer and the inner. the people that eat this stuff, they're mamish into it, whatever. Soapy versus the brain. By the way, I'm just going back to this to the BM. The the the brain is very hard to discern. That's what the is trying to say that has different colors. It's easy. The brain is very hard to see through. But in the brain itself, everything that's inside the skull is a brain. Think but if it's closer [snorts] to the body it's in the in the spine area that's already like the so what's the difference brain what's a brain how much you have to puncture from the brain in order to make a tra needle but the the spine is a you need 51% of the circumference of the spine of the of the not the spine we're talking about the which is the spinal cord because we don't care so much about the spine spine and spine is not a big deal. People break uh vertebrae. It's not a big deal. We were talking about the blue part the so where does the brain end the or or let's call it where does the skull end and the spine begins the spinal cord begins. I wrote here my gimmar that I was in Poland when I learned this gimmar I don't know what I have to do I have to check it out in the year but upon him there's two pand here beautiful another from kalan these are two guys right over here at the entrance to the skull from that point on is you can even see the there's a they show you where the spinal cord is here you see that there's an arrow spinal cord that's where the spinal cord begins and that's where so he says like this from those point those two guys into the skull is all considered brain but anything from the other side is and you need a right what about the actual two guys themselves here these what about that's in between those two things what's I I I really don't know says that's the it's like the brain you have to be and say even actually found in a chicken that also has these coming out of its brain. there right there by the entrance to the skull says if the heart was punctured all the way to the chamber inside check this picture out from from vice unbelievable he was supposed to come I'm I'm I was touched that all these people want to drive in from England from here I hope I hope to see them I call upon him there's two chambers this is he took a heart chopped it in half I hope you're not queasy There's a larger chamber. There's a smaller chamber. Which chamber gets punctured? Says looks appetizing. What's the question? In our Mishna, it talks about a heart and it talks about lungs. Guess what? Look at this. Ah, what a beautiful picture. This is the lungs. There's a there's the main cona that goes into the lungs. Then it branches off. Dr. Epste, what are those branches called? says, "No, I'm serious. If you're learning this and you're 100 years ago, see, what what's going on here? I don't know what you're talking about." But now we understand there's the giant main pipe that brings in oxygen into the lungs. Then you have all these almost looks like a root system over here. Those are the smaller ones. No, what I'm looking for is a puncture in the main one. So the Gmorra wants to understand that just like in the same since they're both brought in the same Mishna. And when it comes to the lung, we're talking about the main pipe. So when it comes to the heart, we're talking about the main chamber, not a a side chamber, not the smaller chamber says, what's the what's the connection? It says in in plural the the the the pipe that all pipes lead to this that's only one pipe but it says in in singular it says into to the cavity not a chamber cavity. What what difference does it make? What cavity? Cavity is a cavity. It doesn't matter if it's on the right or the left small large. If you puncture into a cavity, you made a tra. So the artery coming out of the heart something like this a small little puncture wound in there makes it possible says you need most of the circumference. What is this? is the fat that's on the walls says I don't understand how could you puncture fat in a wall who cares about the fat why would that make an animal soar says no no no you didn't understand if you look closely on this picture you can see fat all the way around the the trachea as it enters the the the lung yeah all this is fat so what it means is the pipe that has that fat on it that if you have a little puncture wound that's that's mit three pipes. Rashi says something interesting and everybody struggles to understand what Rash is saying. They're saying you know that's not the mitsas. He says there are three pipes that come out of the heart or I'm sorry from the trachea. Three pipes that come out from the from the trachea. one he says part one goes to the heart one goes to the lung and one goes to the liver so they say no what rashi meant to say is there's three major arteries one is the aorta how do you pronounce it >> aorta >> aorta and the vina ca whatever it's called the hulu pulmonary artery gets through there's three major arteries one goes through the one really goes through the the the liver one goes goes to the the heart and what goes through the lugged. So what's what's do we have to know this? He says the rheaare the one any pipe that goes any pipe this pipe that goes through the lung we have to treat it like a lung just like a lung a small puncture wound makes it a mashu makes a tra so so when you look at the the pipe also a mashu makes a trada but we know what makes a a liver trafe when you remove the entire thing if you anything remains of the liver it regenerates so it doesn't make a tra so too whatever that pipe is that's going through the liver. You have to remove the whole thing in order to make it straight or the but when it comes to the heart is ra is going to says the opposite he mixes this up a little bit. The lung is like the liver and you have to get rid of the whole thing in order to make it the but the liver is like the lung then is strafe believably that I'll give you that the in the heart says so he said over what Rav holds in the heart that even makes a if that's what he said he doesn't know anything about now it's interesting to point out that the Sanhedrin says the Rav wanted to know what a mum is, what not. He parked himself in a barn for 18 months. You can learn a lot from this. He put him he went into a barn, lived in a barn for eight, not a day. Some of us would do it for 10 to 15 minutes max. He got a bed, got himself some food and a garra and a lamp and lived in a barn. What's going 18 months to understand what a what a mum is what not a mum is just to be the mum and he says if you think that that's a tra you don't know anything about tus I'm just saying there's not a person that stam it was all his whole life in marriage doesn't know what tus he lived in a barn you don't know anything about tus says I think we do a doctor >> right exactly >> was a doctor okay yeah let's keep on going we have four minutes so now we're going back to the spinal cord part which transfers all the nerve system in the body. It's a very important piece of equipment. It's very deathable if you it you have to cut a majority of it. I'm not a doctor. If I had a guess, if you ask me, I would say a puncture, a little puncture in a spinal cord. Bye-bye. No more walking. I don't know what he says. No. A lumbar puncture is >> who? What? >> They do a lumbar puncture to check someone. They make a hole in the spine >> through the nerve system. >> I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't want you to be my doctor. >> And they said that even says it's not true. You could puncture like says it has to be arrived. But how what's arrived? There's two ways to look at it. the circumference, the the skin that holds everything in place or the inside nerve system. Is it the inside, the nerve tissue inside or it's the outside? Because the inside seems like could heal. The outside once that that's cut then the animal is a bye-bye. It's a goner. But if it's if you say that the outside skin most of the outside skin was ruptured, what what about the inside? If you messed up the inside and I look I looked this up. It's the only time in that he's brought down means the outside skin. I couldn't care less about the nerve system inside. That doesn't bother me. Doesn't make it true. He said it from the rav first. He checked the outside, then he checked the inside. If there's skin on the outside and it's not punctured, I don't care about the inside. If the nerve system becomes liqufied, it's that's a poss. And also if it became soft, what does it mean? We have pictures of give you an appetite. This is liqufied. Check this out. Great picture. This guy is holding a spinal cord straight. But if it if it's soft, it's going to flop over. That is what if it can't stand on its own because it's heavy, not because it's damaged. My and one more line over here. Maybe more. What do we have? Oh, we have 30 seconds. Not good. Now, we're using a new with a means that it emptied out on its own. Some of the some of the nerve system emptied out. Hey, an animal that it's that its brain that it's uh uh spinal cord became says you you learned it wrong. This masmus if it's if it if it lost a little bit then it's kosher. If it became uh uh means that it can't stand it became soft then that's any story in a video. Listen to this was sitting in a guy slipped on the water banged his head right into the wall. this guy's brain just lost a little bit of his brain says doesn't it mean he said used and it seems like that he's not going to live. Why else would he say this? He's like this guy's not going to live. This this guy is not going to be able to have children anymore. Why? Cuz he got a bang in his brain. Have a wonderful day. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdysponsor.com or [music] sponsor at mdyop.com.