CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 33 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning Rabboy say. >> [screaming] >> Rabboy say your hands have tumah. Even today they have a little tumah. That's why we wash our hands before we bread based on these sugios over here. Your hands, I'm going to tell you what they are. In tumah, it starts from the worst of the worst. A via voice of tumah a dead person. The next level and it always goes down. It steps one step down. A rat, a dead rat is av tumah. A rat that touches a person becomes what? Drops one thing below av tumah becomes a rishon. Now if a rishon touches something else it becomes a sheini. Hands have a halacha of sheini. Only with the rabbonon. Rabbonon said you're a sheini. Now how much damage could a sheini do? Sheini can't do that much damage. It could only damage something that's super sensitive. Something strong like a like an apple, like regular food, chulin, it can't do it can't do anything to it. It can't penetrate chulin. What could it damage? Trumah. Kodshim. Okay. Here's a interesting question. What if a person yeah, we could show the chart if you want. This is the chart of via voice of tumah this av tumah drops keeps on dropping and then a rishon sheini shlishi. The more kedusha something has the more sensitive it is. So ma'aser sheini has kedusha but less than trumah. Trumah has kedusha but less than kodshim. Kodshim has kedusha less than parah adumah. We never even speak about parah adumah but we threw it on the list. We're not even going to speak about it today. It's not even in the video. We have a beautiful video to show this concept again. If you're if you have hands that you didn't wash, they're sheini and they touch meister shiny. Meister shiny, what's meister shiny? Every time you have fruit, you give a little bit to to the coin, a little bit to the levy, and a little bit to yourself. And you bring it to Jerusalem. Let's say you touch the fruit with your non-tahor hands. What happens to the fruit? Huh? Anybody want to take a guess? It that shiny. Does the fruit become a shlishi? Yeah, it already, yeah, it's much to come with to my. Obviously, it's much to come with to my. So, I'm saying does it have enough power to penetrate a meister shiny? So, we're going to see in the Gamorah. Also, a guy went to the mikvah, he's completely tahor, and sticks his hands into a house of tzaraas. Does his body become tumah? Do his hands become tumah? Is it possible for his hands to become tumah without his body becoming tumah? Is there such a thing? All these interesting things, but much, much more. You're going to see We're starting off with unbelievable svaros on on the first the first few lines. So, only my gufa. What do we have yesterday? We had yesterday a svara from Rush Lakish. Rush Lakish says, "Since the trachea, the breathing pipe, is connected to the lungs, that's how an animal breathes." So, says Rush Lakish a chiddush that a chiddush he holds that if you cut the kana, if you cut the trachea, then it's basically as if you take the the trachea out of the body. It's it's not relevant anymore. And since it's not relevant anymore, then whatever's attached to it, the lungs, are not relevant in terms of treifah. You can't puncture the lung once the trachea is removed from the body. Once you shecht the trachea, it's considered halachically as if you removed it. It's not even there. So, whatever's connected to it down the line is not there. It's dead. It's out of the body. It's it's it's in a box. So, it's in a box, you take a screwdriver, start poking and poking. You can't make an animal treifah. You can't render this animal treifah once you the trachea, he says. Now, what if What if you puncture the kishka at this point? The kishka is not connected to the trachea. It's connected to the esophagus. For the eating tube. So, if you puncture the kishka after you shecht the trachea, l'chumra, it should be a treif. You just made it treif because it is connected in the body. If you shecht the trachea, then it's removed as if it's removed, and then you puncture the lung, kosher. Omar Rava, Omar Rava she l'vareya. This whole thing only makes sense with a lung that's connected l'chumra l'vakar because the the lung is connected to the to the trachea, to the breathing tube. If somebody takes a screwdriver and punctures the kishka after he shechted and cut the trachea, l'chumra, they're not connected. And what will happen by puncturing the kishka? You rendered it a treif. You can't eat this animal. A big nafka mina. If the kishka's outside of the body, halachically, so you take a screwdriver, you cut it up into pieces, doesn't matter. You didn't make the animal treif. But if the kishka's part of the animal and you made a hole in it, even though you shechted one out of the two simanim, you made it a treif. So, Reb Zeira says, "I don't like what you said. No, not true." And then the Gemara is going to say maybe Reb Zeira took it back. And then the Gemara says, "Well, maybe no. Maybe Reb Zeira is just talking to Rava." He He made a a point to Rava, but he didn't take it back. So, let's see. Says Reb Zeira, Maseches Zeira, Machshavah b'siman treif, he tied the >> Says Reb Zeira, this animal is half dead. What does half dead mean? In order to kill an animal you have to cut two simanim. So he killed one siman. He He cut one siman. He killed 50% of the animal. You killed 50% of the animal. So now you cannot make a treif in a 50% dead animal. If the animal is 100% dead, could you could you make a hole in its heart and say, "Oh, I made it a treif?" No, it's 100% dead. So too if it's 50%. What's the difference if I disconnect the the trachea and I can no longer puncture the lung because that part is dead. So if that part is dead, the whole animal is dead. 50% is dead. It logically should be dead. And once the animal is dead in any area of the body, so the so too the the kishka. The Reb Zeira Reb Zeira took that back. The boy Reb Zeira Listen to this. I'm telling you this is so today, but you got to pay attention. You have two simanim. You have a You have the the the breathing pipe and the eating pipe, the trachea and esophagus. When a person an animal, regular animal, what does he accomplish by the He accomplishes two things. What are the two things he accomplishes? Reb say. You could eat it and what else? And it can it's no longer an animal. Two things. He removes the of an animal. Which a cow that just drops dead is an animal. So he he was successful in removing the and he also allows you to eat it. Listen to this. This is very hard. When I the first siman, nothing's wrong with the animal. So the the first siman that I did the I accomplished two things through that. 50% of two things. I'm on the way of accomplishing two things. I could eat it, no tuma. But all of a sudden, in slow motion, somebody punctures the kishka. Boom! It becomes a treifa. And then I continue and I shecht the esophagus. What does the esophagus accomplish now? At most at most that there shouldn't be tuma. You can't eat this animal anymore. >> [clears throat] >> It this animal has a punctured kishka. Yeah? She can never eat it. It's a treifa. It has the punctured kishka before you you finish the shchita. So, you can't eat it. At most it could do, remove the tuma. Can you combine two things that are very different? Why? The first siman accomplished two things. The second siman accomplishes one thing. One and two don't go together. That's the Gemara shaila. You hear this? So, says the Gemara nikvu b'nei mayim, the kishka got punctured and the animal became treif bein siman l'siman, in between shechting the trachea and esophagus. Mao, b'meztaref siman rishon l'siman sheini l'taher m'deinei aveila l'ei. Can I could I say, "Oh, but at the end of the day there was a good shchita and therefore it's not an aveila?" Or no, you can't combine things that are very different. One accomplishes has two outcomes. It it removed the issur of eating. You're allowed to eat it. And the tuma. And the And the other one only accomplished tuma. So, they don't go together. I'm reading in love haynu d'bei Ilfa. Oh, rabbosai, we're going to a whole 'nother sugia now. So, if you were spacing out until now brand new and gishmak. We have something called the ben pekua. It's always a fascinating sugia. When a a cow has a fetus inside and you shecht the mother. So you don't have to shecht the I spared you the pictures. Rabbi sent me real pictures of them opening up a thing and finding a ben pakua. So you open it up and there's a there's a baby and then the baby gets up and starts running away. So logically you don't have to shecht the baby. You can take a bat, hit it over the head, and eat it. Because the shechita of the mother covers the baby. What if the baby extends its hand outside of the mother's body? And then you shecht it. So obviously you can't eat that foot that came out. Cuz it was inside the mother's body. But it's not an aveila. Not an aveila. Because the shechita of the mother covers that. What if it extends Listen to that. I'm telling you it's gishmaka stuff today. What if it extends its its foot in between the two simanim? Shecht siman one. And then it sticks its head its hand out. And then she shechts siman two. So that's the same exact question that we just asked. Since siman one accomplishes more than siman two, so maybe they don't combine together. They're different type of Now they're different. Before we said it accomplishes two things versus one thing, so maybe they don't combine. Is mean it's taruf? Did I skip the bio for this other bein siman siman mahu? Between the two simanim it stuck out its extended its hand. Mean it's taruf siman rishon siman sheini taruf aveila lo i. Can I say well I continued shechting I got a second siman in there, so it's no longer an aveila even though it stuck its hand out afterwards? I've got Oh, or no? Why not? Because the first siman allows me to eat the entire fetus. The second siman doesn't allow me to eat the fetus. So maybe they're different type of simanim. They do different things. So it's a very similar question. But what's the Gemara's point there? Here's the Gemara's point. I've got a bailey Rabbi Zeira didn't ask a question whether I could combine the two simanim, yes no, Ela taram de navela. It was one question, can >> [clears throat] >> can this animal have tumah or not? But al ba'al hiluf asurah. This animal is 100% asur at all times. Why is it asur at all times, Rabbosai? Because it became a treifah. You told me that Rib Zera holds that once the same animal starting to die, it's we'll call it 50% dead. Why is it 50% dead? Because you cut one of the simanim. If you cut one of the simanim, you no longer can make any of the vital organs a treifah. You can't poke it in the in the in the lungs. You can't poke it in the even if you do, it's not going to do anything. Why? Because you can't you cannot make a dead animal a treifah. And since this animal is 50% dead, you can't make it a treifah. That's what we said in Rib Zera. All of a sudden, now you're telling me that Rib Zera asked the question, does this animal give tumah? But of course he understood that it's treif, even though the treif happened when? Between the two simanim. So you see that he regretted it, that it could become treif even after you cut the first siman. Amora bar Rav Nachman Who told you that Rib Zera took it back? Maybe Rib Zera holds that you can't make anything treif you can't make anything treif once you start cutting the trachea. Why? Because the animal is considered dead. What he was asking was only according to Rava. He He himself, personally, his personal shita, he holds that once the animal starts dying, you can't make it a treifah. But he was asking what what would Rava hold in such a case? Dilemma Rib Zera by the Rava the latest fear of lay. End of the sugira, Rabbosai, if it was too much for you and of sugar we got another sugar even better. Omar Avaka listen to this alacha you're not going to believe this alacha. Listen to this. If a person surgically goes into an animal and detaches its kidney while it's alive. Could you eat this kidney? Right now, could you eat the kidney? No, what is that called? Aver min achai. Every every is is achai means it is aver min achai. Let's say you left the kidney in the body in the in the cow and then you shechted the cow. Could you eat the kidney? Silence. Silence. But it's detached. Detached. Huh? Shechted doesn't help her. Once something is aver min achai, it's aver min achai forever. So if you detach a kidney inside a living animal and then you shechted, I got you guys. You see? I'm telling you this is gishmaka stuff today. So I have a question for you. Now let's take the same exact thing and talk about the kishka. Mamish kishka. People used to make kishka from the real kishka and now and then it's all assur. What if I detach the kishka inside the animal's body? And then I shechted. Can I eat the kishka afterwards? Why is it different than a than a kidney? Same exact thing. So it would be assur. If I detach the kidney the the kishka while the animal is alive, >> [cough and clears throat] >> then it's aver min achai and then I go ahead and I shecht the animal, can't eat the kishka. What if I shecht, I do, I cut the esophagus, I cut the the trachea, I detach the kishka. So for that moment that I detach the kishka, the animal is alive not alachically, but alachically for a A cannot eat an animal until it's 100% dead. A Jew can eat an animal even if it's moving around as long as you shocheted it. Cuz a doesn't have shchita. A has nekira. He has a halacha, kill it. However you want to get it, but kill it making sure it's dead dead dead. If it's moving like this, it's not dead. So listen to the kasha. Beautiful shail. Guy shachs, he severs the konah. I'll make it even easier. Either way I learned it, I saw in the art scroll this morning, they didn't learn like me. Oh, okay. I'm learning You could go with the art scroll. I'm learning that you cut the the esophagus, not the konah. They're learning they cut the konah so we may detach the the the kidney. Well, let's say you detach the esophagus also. You cut the esophagus. Which is the feeding tube. Which is connected to the kishka. It goes directly into the into the intestines. So for that moment that you cut it, it's ever min a chai for a cuz the animal's not dead. It takes 20 seconds for the animal to die. So for 20 seconds it's alive with a detached kishka and a is not allowed to eat ever min a chai. Then it died. It's too late. You have a kishka that was ever min a chai for 1 minute. It's a it's ever min a chai for the rest of its existence. So comes out that a cannot eat kishka ever if you shochet it. Oh, my Rabbi Yossi said this is a mad a massive bomb which the Gemara disagrees with him. Shmuel ben Shimon ben Lakish. From this halacha that if you take you cut the trachea, you put it into a basket, it's as if it's outside of the body. Mizmanin Yisrael ben Mayim. You can you can invite a Jew to eat kishka. And you chont. V'mizmanin Yisrael ben Mayim. Comes out a mordik halacha. You cannot have a eat your kishka. May timer. Yisrael d'b'shchita d'ta'ya milta. Jew that is dependent on shchita. Y'dei kishka d'mali y'say sh'teilo. Once he did a great shchita, even if the animal is still alive in next 10 minutes, it's moving right now. The Gamorah even says a whole story a whole thing in a second that you shut down animal and then you rip a piece of meat right out of its neck when it's still moving and you eat it as if you ate but it's not it's alive but it's not alive legally. But a guy that only works with killing it over it doesn't depend on depends on the death of the animal. So how do you this over here? Have you seen over here the boy Emily? And he he asked a simple question. Is it possible that a Jew is allowed to eat a certain type of food but a guy not? We have more than a guy. We have more where where where above. How's it possible? I wanted to say immediately where is there such a thing? But they I didn't say anything to them. Why? They mean no time at all. He used logic. How am I going to fight logic with a with a question? However, at the end of the day this thing doesn't work. Why? It says if a person desires to taste the taste of of meat of a of a live animal, why would he want to do it? Cuz the doctors told him it's really healthy. So what should he do? As he's now the neck is wide open. Grab a piece real quick. The animal's still alive. It's still running around. Rinse it off. Salt it real quickly and eat it. Oh, and now that you eat it you you you tasted the taste of it. Is that for a guy or not? The boys is that for a guy? According to it's not it's not okay. Why? Cuz the animal's still alive. So it's but for a Jew it's okay. Why? Cuz it's and what does it say over here that it's okay for a guy? So since it says it's okay for a guy so we have a a contradiction to Rav Akiva. Who mountain is not allowed you should wait until Why should he wait? So, I forgot to point this out in the Hebrew shear. He has a point cuz it says like Adam. Does a Indian to wait for the animal to die? But for guy after that at least it's before that a guy is allowed to eat such a thing that there's no problem with So, a guy should be able to eat kishka. Mr. Rabbi and I have the Rabbi Bar Haroitis somebody wants to get healthy somebody is a guy. He cuts out a piece of meat from the animal from the area of the area. Oh, and he has a lot of salt he rinses it off really really well. It's very very bloody over there very Oh, man and he has to wait until the animal dies after that at least boy. So, here's the sheet that says that there's no such thing as as you the parts of the whole of the whole of the whole. Remain mortal guy. Okay. Says the mission brand new. Yeah. Has the animal kind of life will you have to have done? Okay, we're going back to the famous Akiva. I'm just making sure. Oh. >> [snorts] >> The of when a person wants or enables his fruit or food to become tummy. How does he do so? By pouring water on it one of the seven liquids. Any one of the seven liquids. One of the seven liquids is blood. So, no harm at all. In order for fruit or meat any food to become tummy to be susceptible to tumor you have to be much sure to become a tumor. have that all beautiful video which we're not going to show the guy. tuma video. The what? You have to pour water on it. Meat that you just have to do. Is it susceptible to tuma? Yes, because the blood that comes out of the animal touches the animal and that makes us What if it doesn't bleed? What if the animal doesn't bleed? So, I looked it up on Chat GPT. Is it possible for an animal not to bleed? So, first [clears throat] of all, I would assume it doesn't talk about I'm assuming you're not checking the freedom, the jugulars. You you're able to go around the jugular. But, he says yes. If an animal I couldn't believe it. I was sure he's going to say no. He says yeah, if an animal had a heart attack right right by the shrita, so the heart stopped working, so it's not pumping the blood out. Another thing is what if the animal had a tremendous amount of blood loss right before the shrita? Had a hole in its leg which doesn't make it a treifa and it lost a ton of blood. It barely has any blood left. So again, it'll be very very low pressure. In a in a such a thing, it's not a treifa. This situation is not a treifa. Blood letting is not a treifa. You did blood letting. You took out uh 50 gallons of blood. Who told you it's not one of the treifas? It doesn't matter. Who said it can't live? The famous story with the Rambam that the Rambam had only a little blood left and he lived from it. Okay, so says the Gemara, listen to the Mishnah. Share blood did not come out, so the kosher. Then the halin be a mystery of us. Your hands that the said are tuma could touch this meat because it's not susceptible to tuma this meat. Why? Because it didn't have blood. There's no blood that made it much of a tuma. Then she would know who the shrita. Says if you think about it for a second just the story behind it. What is much of a tuma do? It finishes off a product. When you put the water on a fruit, it's finished. So, he says when you shach, you finish this animal, you don't need a liquid. The actual shchita creates the the the susceptibility to to to tumah. >> So, you never need a liquid? >> Reb Shimon says you never need a liquid for meat. For meat, only meat. It's because blood didn't come out, so it's not much of a kavod hamet, so you could touch it with your dirty hands, with your tumah hands. Hoyos mayim dam. What if blood did come out of it? Einan nehonin dam. Say of this, you're not allowed to touch it with your the rabbonim tumah hands. Am I? Why not? Yadayim shniyos ein. How much tumah do your hands have? Only a second level of tumah, which is very, very low. Look at it over here on this chart. Look at it. A shaini, what could a shaini do? A shaini could make trumah, could do a shlishi to trumah, and the kodshim. But the Mishnah is not talking about trumah and kodshim. The Mishnah is only talking about chulin. Chulin does not become tamei. I got to show you this video. It's very, very important. Take a look at this. Beautiful how they they did it. Basar chulin, you have meat that's chulin that was touched by a dead rat, so it becomes a rishon, a one. A one can make a two tamei. That's it. Could a two make a three? No, cuz it's chulin. What could a two do? A two could walk off and touch trumah. And the trumah will come out shlishi. Could a shlishi of trumah touch another trumah thing and make it tamei? No, it stops there. But what could it do? It could walk away and touch kodshim. The kodshim in the Beis Hamikdash had and they can make kodshim tamei. So, that just gives us a basic idea from the top how it works. So, says the Gemara, but this he's a shaini. We saw all the way in the beginning of the video that a shaini, right over here, a basar chulin, it can't do anything. What could a two do? Nothing. A two is stuck. In this case, you can't do anything. You can't make another hulin tame. Whoa, right over here. It's pause. Great. Doesn't work. Am I the I am shiny saying your hands are shiny? Vin shiny I shishlichu hulin I can't make a shlishi. Says the Gemara, now I'll prove it to you. We're going to go on a tangent here, not going to get to the sugia. I'll prove to you that our mission was talking about hulin. Easiest proofs. In the mission it says haya behema haya ba'al Could you bring a deer on the base Hamikdash in the on the mizbeach? No. So it must be talking about hulin. This is another What? If there's no blood in in the base Hamikdash it's kosher? What's the dam uts'ar? What's the whole point of having a korban? It's to sprinkle the blood on the mizbeach. That's the number one reason, so you need blood. We'll assume the kosher gets the dam give me machshir. Blood doesn't even help in in in the base Hamikdash. Why? machshir. The blood in the base Hamikdash is does is not one of the seven liquids. Shinem are allowed to shiv hulin kemayim should spill the blood like water. Dam shinishvu kemayim machshir. Only blood that spills like water. Shinishvu kemayim machshir. In the base Hamikdash it doesn't spill like water. I catch it. I receive it in a vessel. It's not water. It's important. We'll assume another I even kosher kill yotzim dam l'mitkashri. If there's no blood, it's not much of a kavalta tame. Why not? This guy should be Something called the love of the Hakadosh Baruch Hu loves kosher. So in that love the the chiba of kodesh it should become tame. And Where did Where did I come up with something like this? The kayam alon. We already paskened. Chibas hakodesh machshir tame. I don't need blood, just the chiba itself. Says the Gemara, you're right. You're talking about hulin. But what did he do with the hulin? He purchased ma'aser sheni. And ma'aser sheni has tremendous kedusha. It's like trum almost. When your sheni hands, excuse me, [clears throat] touch ma'aser sheni, they become tamei. But only according to what amora amar, or like Reb Meir. Reb Meir disagrees with that. Where do we see that he disagrees? That's base. Kol adam be asmayim midivrei Torah from Anybody has hands that are tamei, midirabanan, meaning his hands are a sheni, mitamei et hakodesh u'poseil et hatruma. I'm not going to be me'arekh cuz we're very very late here, but tamei means that it stops right over there. So [snorts] when a when a sheni touches When a sheni touches truma, it stops, it becomes pasul, sorry, pasul. And when a when a sheni touches kodesh, it's mitamei. Mitamei means that it can go on. It can continue making other things tamei. So mitamei et hakodesh, your second hands make a kodesh shlishi. That means What does that mean? That the kodesh that's a shlishi that touches another kodesh, it becomes a revi. U'poseil et hatruma. But if it touches truma, it stops right there, it becomes tamei. But it says meforesh according to Reb Meir, umetaher et hakholin u'mevaer ma'aser. Ma'aser sheni hands don't affect at all, they're Reb Meir. We're going according to hakhamim. The hakhamim oisrim ma'aser. Hakhamim say, so what So he answers that our mishna is talking about kholin, that he took the kholin money and bought What what happened? He had a bunch of ma'aser sheni at home. He couldn't transfer it to Jerusalem, it's too heavy. He transferred the kedusha of the fruit into money. Now the money becomes kodesh. He went to the Beit Hamikdash, bought in the Jerusalem, bought ma'aser sheni food with it. He took the money, bought any food with it. So the food now becomes kodesh, becomes ma'aser sheni. Now if I touch it, it becomes tamei. We're doing terrible on time, but it's one of these sugyas that we have to go slower. Ma'aser sheni u'rashi, mimai? Who told you? Dilma kam leipley Rebbi Natan leidei Rebbi Meir. Maybe when you eat the miser, it's a problem. You know what to eat miser shaini when you tell me when you tell when you have second hands. I would have been give the miser over here now we're just talking about touching it. We're not talking about eating. And maybe they they agree that touching is nothing. If you touch miser shaini with second hands, hands that are second to shaini, it doesn't do anything. I would give the miser a plague. The hall and by us we're talking about touching. How do I know we're talking about touching? They're eating. It doesn't say you should eat it. It doesn't say your diamond source. It says meaning that even if your friend took it and put it into your mouth, milo ask you because Sophie have ray. And that wouldn't be a problem. I'll give you a muscle, a very good muscle would be hamotzi. If I give you a roll to eat, do I have to wash my hands? No. But I'm touching bread. The The eater has to wash his hands. Over here also, the guy gave his friend to eat whatever it is. This meat. He doesn't have to wash his hands. He has shaini hands. He doesn't have to wash his hands. That's what we're talking about here. Maybe agreed that he doesn't have to wash his hands. Only the person eating. But we're not talking about the person eating. We're talking about the person that's touching it. And the person that touches it doesn't have to wash his hands. Mom's like today, bread. If you're feeding a very sick person who can't eat by himself, you put bread in his mouth. Who has to wash their hands? >> patient >> The patient. Not the the guy feeding? So maybe over here also, there's no problem touching it. >> [clears throat] >> Even his friend gave it put in his mouth. Hello my papa. How can we dine ask you none? Comes papa and says what's the problem? All the way Let's start again. The mission says that if your hands are second to ma, then you're allowed to touch and and you're allowed to touch meat that didn't have water on it. Didn't have blood on it. But why? If it had blood on it, what's the problem? Your hands are only a second. It's only a chain of the tumah. Answers the Gemara now, cuz it's not a shaini. It's a rishon letumah. We're talking about hands that have the highest level of tumah possible for hands, a rishon. How? They You put your hands into a house of a metzora. You stuck it through the window. So now they got a rishon tumah, maybe. And now if the meat had blood on it, you're going to make a problem. You make You're going to make a boo-boo. You're going to make it a what? A shaini. It's going to go down one. Your question was your hands are only a shaini. A shaini doesn't affect regular chullin. And now our whole mission proves four proofs. How much is going by chullin? You're right. A shaini can't do anything to chullin. But a rishon could. Hello, Rabbi Yehuda Chilas is saying we're talking about hands that are chila. What's chila? A rishon. according to Rabbi Shimon bar Elazar. This is only according to Rabbi Shimon bar Elazar. This is a And you die chilas to chullin hands can never become a rishon. But Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar may Rabbi Shimon bar Mayer. He says in the name of Rabbi Mayer, who's Rabbi Mayer's rebbe? Rabbi Akiva. He says in the name of Rabbi Mayer you die chilas to chullin shilis letumah. Hands could become a rishon. And a and a and a second for tumah, which makes no sense cuz tumah is much more sensitive to chullin. So the Gemara right away asks, shilis letumah in No, how can come out chilas after the chullin shilis letumah in the chullin like? No. It means of course for tumah, but lechullin is not a shaini. Only a rishon. When we say your die chilas What's the case that a hand becomes a rishon in? The sanyo. Here you can see the other way around. When a person sticks his hands into a metzora's house yod chilas his hands become a rishon. Divrei Rabbi Akiva. Now we have a new We have a new man that says a A could be a rishon. Not only Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar. The Gam Ari Yodav Snyos. Stick your hand into a base Hamenuga, your hands become a second. Digula Amora be a mix of Shmuel Bia. If you stick your hands into a Metzora house, your whole body does not become tummy. It's an interesting kodesh. Only your hands. Imagine. Only part of your body becomes tummy. The Ahava Gzeira Yodav Guvin come and forget it. The question is, do I do I am I goyzer the hands because of the body? Mar Shava Yodav Guvin Shavin Rabonan. They made his hands a rishon. Mar Shava Yodav Guvin the almost Shavin I didn't invent a new category. I'm just going to say >> Rabonan. >> Rabonan. What did I say? >> That's the last word. >> Right. Oh, Shavin Rabonan. The He holds that what? That it's only a shaini. A hand hands maximum could be a shaini. Okay. So, Nachman. Whereas we're saying an answer, our mission is talking about a guy had rishon hands that touched the meat that that had blood if it had blood and it would become tummy. How do you have rishon hands? Because he stuck his hands into the Metzora's house. Says the Gemara, "The look at Rabbi Akiva. It's much Why are you telling me it goes like Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar when I have a Rabbi Akiva here?" Rabbi Akiva the The look at Rabbi Akiva the only other kodesh. Now, Rabbi Akiva is happens to be Rabbi Meir's rabbi. The The only other kodesh have you. Remem- Rabbi Akiva is Rabbi Meir's rabbi. Rabbi Meir is the one that we brought before b'shem Rabbi Shimon b'shem Rabbi Meir. Where did Rabbi Meir get it from? From Rabbi Akiva. So, let's go to the source. Say that Rabbi Akiva holds that your hands can become a rishon. The Gemara Rabbi Akiva b'tuma of a kodesh the chamira maybe only said this halacha by by things that are very sensitive like truma and kodesh. I want somebody that says that your hands become a rishon. As the Gemara, a bomb question. The what do you tell me that according to Rabbi Akiva maybe when it comes to chulin your hands are not a rishon, your hands are only a shaini. V'lo havina mishnis. Guess what? Rabbi Akiva holds that a shaini hand could mess up meat that became wet. The Rebbe Akiva shiny shiny holding He holds that a shiny makes a shiny holding. This none boy by young daughter Rebbe Akiva that very day. What's the very day? The famous Rashi The day I ran we saying the seder that day that he took over from Leo to become the Nazi. So they added 400 benches in the midrash. You imagine thousands of new bathroom come into the midrash to learn and they're all asking all the questions they had their entire life. So that day a lot of new stuff happened and one of the was this that Rebbe Akiva had to get up and say the Yitma It says everything let me show you the video real quickly. This perfect for now. This this dead mouse is out of town. Wow, we're super super late. Unbelievable. Okay. A only comes from the air space. So the entire oven becomes a what? A rain shine. The food inside the oven become a shiny. Could a shiny make a shiny? Says Rebbe Akiva yes. This bread if it touches another bread, the bread will become a shiny. We didn't know that before. That's only she does Rebbe Akiva. Okay. So we stop over there. Let's see it inside. It says it doesn't become to me. It has the power to give off to my writer. The the shiny has the power to make a shiny. We keep a shiny teaches us about a bread. Mama just saw it on the video. A bread that's a shiny shows a shiny holding. And here we finish off here today. So and that's Rebbe Akiva. So just say it's Rebbe Akiva. Maybe it's referring to two the right, so but the rabbinic law of everything my hands, hands are only to me with the rabbinic law. So that that the rabbinic law to me doesn't have the the power and the power to make a shleishi, a shleishi shleishi by who rabboisai have a wonderful day. >> [music and singing] >> Merit the source of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a sheer today. mdy.sponsor.com or [email protected]