CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 28 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. All right. I have a question forum should know this, but I saw the Israelis had an issue with it. So, I'm going to ask the Shila here. Person takes a cow, shecks its trachea halfway 50%, goes home, takes a nap for four hours, comes back, she shs the other 50% and the esophagus 50% of the ka takes a nap, goes back. Don't answer you over there. What's the good or not good? Do not answer either. >> Let's think about it. If he so raised it 45% is the animal tray for an aa what is the animal? >> It's nothing. >> It's nothing. If it's if if it has a hole in the ka in the trachea it's nothing >> up to a half it's nothing. It's as if nothing happened. So let's start over again. You have an animal that has a cut trachea less than 50 50%. So nothing happened to it. So he went to sleep. So he went to sleep. It's not a sh. Pretend there's no at all. There's something called hisra vice fish in AI. Complete AI. How do I know it's AI? Cuz it would take about 10 people to grab this animal. At least 10. Probably 10 wouldn't even do it. He just knocks it to the ground. This It's almost his voice and he's just sitting there. Yeah, me. I don't care. like a like like that kind of animal, a gazelle, a deer, it's a there's one other thing that you have to do to and that is a chicken, a bird. This is the you trap or bird you spill it blood. See why wants to learn that the word is very strange means you spilled its blood you killed it doesn't say shoulder is a nonita so you see that a bird you don't have to what's the obvious question what about it's in the same and goes in too so says just spilling its blood is okay. So come out that a wild animal too. You don't have to do says there's something called basically if I bring a sheep to the mdash as a carbon and I find out that it has a broken leg on the way. So I have to redeem it and now what once it's redeemed what do I do? So the Torah says this is the you could eat it normally in your house in your gates. It doesn't have to be You eat it like you eat a like you eat a deer. What does that mean? You have to it says so. So if that's the case then a bird also you'd have to because we said yesterday that it says the word bird and in the same and just like a you have to a bird. Well, you're right. But what I do, I have this we just saw and that's an exclusion that you don't have the but it could be which one is it? It's only one of the two maybe the word spills blood goes on a on a not on a bird says if you look at the here on the chart it says which word is closest to the word the word. So is the one that you don't have to. So now the Gar is gonna ask a bunch of questions on he says that and let's go back to that. We learned this about a week ago. There's three options when it comes to a bird. Either there's a that tells me that I have to the chicken or heard it from the that's called it's not in the but heard it or it's just the there's no reason to to a bird said you have to sh the bird. So we're going to ask a bunch of questions here. You're performing. You start shaking like a leaf and you ruined the whole you know you went above the the or like pointed out to me below the the this is the trachea there's two there's two areas that are pus all the way in the top by the tongue you know where where the trachea connects over there by also where it connects to the lung if you below that area it's also tra says it says like You guys remember what is? It's a pretty interesting picture. If you're grossed out from these things, don't look >> cutting like the wrong way. Slicing from from the chin all the way down here like this. Or somebody who uproots the trachea. Check this out. If we go back to this, what does it say? said, "When do you do when you're about to eat from this animal?" What if I take a deer and I shoot it in the head? I kill it. I hunted it. I killed it. Am I? No. Because it's not a I can't eat it. So you understand's question's question is as follows. If I don't have to do on a chicken, there's no You say repeat. You say there's no in a chicken. So I cut its neck this way, not that way. I could still eat it. If I can still eat it, I should have I should I should be to do Why does it say here? I don't have to do that's how you can check it either way. Says you have to you have to do some sort of action in the esophagus in the trachea. That's it. You can do it with a pliers. You can do with a scissors. You can do it with says you misunderstood. You should have to do says that is only in this picture right over here. Only in a deer. If you do this to a deer, you can't eat the deer. So you don't have to you don't have to cover the blood. But if you do this exact action to a chicken, then you do have to do. Why? Because you could eat the chicken according to your beautiful. >> Yeah. >> No, no, no. We were talking about what I don't know what he he the minimum today according to everybody you have to a bird we're talking about and of today they do many things with the blood nothing goes to waste in the there's a lot of stuff you do it becomes animal feed all sorts of stuff the fish I don't know what but in those days there's one or two things you could do with the blood let's say you need the blood you You need blood. So what if you need blood? You have to cover the blood. And when you cover blood, guess what happens? It becomes you can't use it anymore. You're covering with all this dirt. It becomes uh you can't use it. But I need I I need a I need to chase away these moths. What do I do? The only the only thing you can do is shoot in the head. Do do not do you do then what then? You can't eat it. So if you can't eat it then you don't have to do same kind of question same answer talking about a bird for these moths here we even have a little uh gross thing with the moths here they go look at them alive eating this cloth but if you put a drop of blood yeah okay we're talking about once again the same idea of course you can't eat uh a deer after you kill it not and what do you need the blood for the lady uh going back to yesterday's video I stole this from the video this is mish live this is laca they they take a white piece of leather you can see behind him it's kind of white and he stains it with this so instead of staining with yellow they stain it with uh with red again what are we coming to to answer we're coming to answer says that you don't have the bird. Oh, let me do it says mak if you what's moch. So malika is we're going to have to see this later but we can show it here. Malikica is where you take the fingernail and you go through the the spinal the spine and you get to the the esophagus and then the trachea. You go from the other side from the nape. Now if you did this with a knife what did he do? He ruined the whole thing. Malika is something reserved only in the B mikdash for a cayenne to he cuts into the neck of the bird. The only way to kill a bird in the B mikdash is through Malik. You don't do this genius decides to do Malika with a knife. Which what does it do? It renders the the bird what? A traa. Why? Cuz it breaks its neck. By the time he cuts his tusim, it's a traa. Let's think about it for a second. You have an animal that has a hole in its heart. It's a tra. You only find out after you kill it that I had a giant nail stuck right through its heart. But the person checked this animal. >> It's a good not a good >> takes off. >> It's a good It takes off tummas. It's a good >> You can't eat the animal because it had a big giant nail in its heart. >> But take off the >> It takes off the tuma 100%. >> But you're shifting something that was not >> Doesn't matter. We learned it. It doesn't doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. There's no tuma. says here here I I'm just I'm just the is going to say in a second here we go says yeah we learned it even as you saw in the video as soon as the the the bird goes into his throat the back of his throat the person becomes telling me that you don't have to really sh the bird you're right that when the knife goes through the spine you created a traan. It should be like every traer. Every traera you take a knife and you and you get rid of the traa. So what do you see over here? Why why doesn't it work? It doesn't work because you're doing you're doing the knife is hidden in the back. You're pushing hard through the spine and you're not going back and forth. That's the problem. So you see you need a according to you that you don't need. What's the problem? Let him go through the back. Let him continue cutting through the and he did a nice which removes the toma. Why is this person Tommy? I'm just going to throw something out here. It's again we just did it in the week or two. Why is this bird a tra? This bird is an aa. When you break its neck it becomes an aa not a traa. So what's the answer? We learned this. We have an answer to this. So I'm going to I'm going to tell you, >> oh bos says, >> you're right. It becomes an aa and an aa you can't undo a animal's aa can't take a dead a dead chicken from a roadkill and check it. It's it's an aa. So that's only if you break its spine together with the muscle around the spine. So So we said the only way to do it is go from the side and not break the muscle. Very good. Very interesting. So he holds no bird. It says for the look at the this has a broken leg is going to be like what do we learn from it? It's interesting. You you you trying to learn mdash from a from a from a deer and fak the opposite happened. The deer you're going to learn deer from mdash. A guy's a mag he comes to teach. He doesn't teach dy. He learns dy. The guy preparing the daff he he learns because he's teaching he learns. It's just a m. Yeah. He comes to he comes to teach. He He actually He's the one that's actually learning it. I didn't learn from a deer. I learned that a deer from I thought I'm going to learn something from a deer. Turns out I learned deer from you. It comes out from this P that only a deer has but a chicken according to this mandal only a chicken is only from it's only who's who's going to argue with the one who wrote the he argues what does he I want you to like I commanded you. What is it? I commanded you. I command you that you should only one. I'm telling you right away one with a bird and two that's what I told you on there's a here one of these incredible tyis in Tyson says where did get it from the word or let's just take So it's not so much a it's like a So if you have I want to read to you unbelievable thing from it's missing. Where's the gumatria? Who's the balator? The son of the rashian. He says, and I did the math came out for me, 147. Here's the what's missing from it's also 147 and are identical. And that's Reb's Rez from the apostle. It's not the first time we saw that in Tyus, but it's very rare that we're learning something from a gimmatria. It's not a cababalistic, you know, it's one of the things that's you learn. We know that when it comes to chicken, you don't have to the only one. Which one? Which one? Huh? Which one do you cut? >> Either. >> Either. So that's the What's the first one? What's the first one that you hit? The first one is the is the trachea. You could either or this is interesting. Only the esophagus, the food pipe, not the breathing pipe. How do you get to the ves without the ka? the way I always understood it and it seems from Rashi Rash that it goes kana veset and uh and spine but it's not like that the the the the pictures and as vice it's a little bit on the angle like you could get to the veh first comes kana but to the side of it in the back here I'll show you a picture >> it's more like this you see first you hit the white the kana but the veh is not directly behind the is behind it but slightly to the to the to the side. So you could actually come from the from an angle and just cut the not what does it say? What is the more important one? Why is the more important than the I skipped? It says one. One of the one or the other. Either one you want. Says one. It means the more important one. The more we start off the shear. You could have a cut in the animal's not even considered a tra. You have a tiny little hole in the trachea. Not in the trachea in the esophagus. It's done. Wow. Wow. How'd it get so late? This is simple. You're doing the the ka. I'm sorry. The vehic then the trachea pops out. Why is it kosher? Because he did a great afterwards. Something popped out. It popped out after the animal's dead. says, "But if the trachea popped out first, we had this if it popped out first." So, it's a tra no good. What if you did a on the uh how do you say it? >> The esophagus. And then you found that the trick is popped out. You don't know when it popped out. before after story like that. But what's point it doesn't say that a person the trachea and the sophag is popped out. Why doesn't it say that? So what's the answer? >> Why does it say that a person the the ka he was shing the trachea and all of a sudden the asavoc is popped out. So you see the wants to point out you see that you're not allowed to go that's not a good the only good is if you check the esophagus and the trachea pops out but if you sh the trachea and the esophagus pops out it's not a good because you have to sh one sim which is that one sim >> only >> but what's the real answer the real answer is because it doesn't happen it's not something that's common Right? What could happen is for the trachea to pop out. But what never happens is that the esophagus pops out. If a person checked a half a sim of the trachea, half a sim of the sophagus in a bird. Why? Because he didn't do a of the any any of the sim. And certainly if you did the same thing in an animal, it doesn't work. So it says byuda says by burden we're going to talk about this. It doesn't say ka it says veset only the eating tube end of rhythm. Let's see here. Check this out. >> You have to get that vid that blue thing the jugular according to to rashing. But he says only one. And which one? The esophagus, not the trachea. What? No. It's only It's only because the the that jugular is next to the over here. He shows next to it. So it's easier. But if you the the ka and then the vid, you're also good. When we learned last time we learned I think the secret brings it down. I didn't like do research on it. He claims that the jugular by kosher animals is in the makita. So when you cut the the the simm you get the jugular get all the good veins and all the blood comes out. The animal dies very very quickly. By non-coosher animals he claims that the jugular is behind the the spinal cord >> and you can't get to it by regular. Oh, this is the question I asked in the beginning of a half a half a trachea and he went to sleep as long as it takes to do and that's called and then he came and he finished off the job. It's a good why because the first time that you cut is not considered talking about a bird over here. You see they could cut you could do one sim and even the trachea even the you got both things wrong when it said that it it wasn't talking about a bird it was talking about and when it when it said to finish it didn't mean to finish off the trachea a man he finished both if a person same idea comes you find that the is half damaged in other words cut and with a knife he went Then he made instead of having it has an incision 45% incision on the trachea he goes and he cuts more and he finished it. It's a good talking about a bird and you see that he could be the mitzvah of just on the trachea same idea. We're only talking about an animal. He did this to an animal right and it means he finished off not only the trachea but also the esophagus. How do you do malik? Going back to malika just to show it again. Malika is when you take your thumbnail and you go through the back of the the neck the nape through the spine into the esophagus right through the trachea. It says over here you should not cut the muscle otherwise you'd render it but it says you could get to either or. And it says before she could also just this is checkmate. It says either or you ask me which one of the two are you say even if I the trachea or not the trachea that's good and once you get there then you make sure you cut all the muscle you have to sever the whole heads you have to cut both is very very strong says says good mahavah at the end of the day which one of the two do you cut may have the congress I just established checkmate no checkmate means checkmate it means that you all all you have to you could cut either or no the reason why I think it's not a great rally we're talking about malikica you're talking about going from the back like this picture going right through the mafreus to the spine says rashi therefore if I cut even the ka a little it it'll kill the animal because the animal's 3/4 dead to begin with. But if I'm coming from the other side is from the other side, maybe cutting the ka is not enough. Maybe the animal will continue living. Maybe it's not a good story time. There was a duck, an injured duck also. It whole neck was full of blood. Now we have a big problem. How you going to shuck this duck? I need a shaka quickly before it dies. But I don't know if the blood is coming from the trachea, from the esophagus, from its tongue. Maybe it had a tooth problem. I don't know where the blood is coming from. What could we do here? It's a big problem. We'll do the sponsors after the story. I'm going to I'm going to then I'm going to open up and see whether it had a hole in one of the two. I can't check it. Why? Maybe the knife went exactly into the hole where this blood is the source of the blood and I'm not going to see the hole because Ied it. So check to see if there's a hole beforehead. I can't. Why? Check this out. Beautiful picture. When I check the esophagus, I can't check on the left one. I can't see that there's a hole here. It blends right in. But if I check from the inside of the esophagus since it's white, you can see the hole. Oh, but that's only after the animal's dead. I can't pull out a a live duck's esophagus and turn it inside out and see if there's a thing. And if I did, what did I do? I made it a tra on the spot. Um, they say, but I hear what you're saying. Okay. So this is this is so son his name was he says I have a great idea with your fingers you could just run it up and down the trachea from outside and see if it has any holes in it and only cut through the so there'll be kosher because I did one sim so what do you see from the story right here what do we that one one sim could be the also and after it's dead again then you pull out the and you'll check it. Wow, that was powerful what you said. What a great idea. I love it. It's like brings that sent 13 camels to to so when it says in the one of the you could check even the because from this story that was that was great idea to just the says yeah you have to the question why do you have to check the vid there's two there's two reasons why you read either to drain it's it's Uh it's a practical way to drain all the blood. Obviously, you're not allowed to eat blood. It's is there blood. So have a practical way how to how to how to drain it. There's another reason. Maybe it's part of the maybe like plus the jugular. What's ankina? There's anina does do the apply to the veins on the veins or no take any device. Take a plier and go like this and cut it. As long as you're able to drain the blood. He says, "No, the reason is to drain the blood. I'm giving you practical advice and it's only in a bird. You need this practical advice. When it comes to an animal, since you're chopping it up into little pieces, it doesn't matter." Says, it's a practical thing. He says enforce of the juggler. You have to do to the juggler poke here. We're going to see soon. I'm just going to steal it. But I told I told him, you know, it was a little it was a little tough people that don't like blood. So he changed it a little bit. In other words, it doesn't have to be as long as you get all the liquids out. So why does it say? So this whole should be done is going to say why you see it's an of draining the blood. No, the the is to make a hole in it when during if the whole point is just to drain this animal why does it have to be do it after 10 minutes later you see that it is because they're asking this question what's the difference when you do when you do the the whole and of why does he say do it only during it makes a lot of sense it's means hot warm when the blood is flowing easily so it's much better to do but if you wait 10 minutes it's not going to come out because it gets it get starts congealing says he didn't hear what said that what that it's a practical way to get all the blood Is there maybe not this picture right over here? You could. It doesn't have to be. As long as you make a hole in it and drain it, that's enough. Just four more lines. By the way, in our I was very proud in our says and it tells you what said other no we learned on top of I don't know what a lot of us don't even remember what is what he is in our gar we're these kind of things to bring it in the official what does it say what does say that it's only said is by a bird by a bird there's an issue of drainage by animal there's no issue of draining that's why said you have to read the two halves only in a bird like you should only in a bird you have to the jugular have a wonderful day >> merit this of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.