CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 2 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Here we go. So, we're going to be talking about not so much in the just general. This ra is the kora ka. We have a a trachea and esophagus. How do you say con in English? >> Trachea. >> Trachea. This is the windpipe. And it's tough. So if somebody punches you in the neck, you could continue breathing because if it was like a muscle, it would collapse, you know, it would be hard. It would be like mushy. This one is the esophagus. This is where the food goes down. And it's very, it's flexible. It's like a muscle. So when you're looking at the animal they're one behind the other and means they have to cut right through these two pipes two sim it's called the two pipes the trachea and the take the knife and you you go like this a bird also has both of them but yeah [snorts] you're going to first hit this guy and then you're going to go through this one and that's what we're learning about the different alas What's bad? What's good? Who could do it? Anybody could check. Even >> anybody could check. What does that mean? Anybody? Even a woman could check. Now woman is it's a question why she doesn't Ty says they're scared of blood. They could faint. There's uh the min that they don't say the [clears throat] now if we just look at these words because this is what we're going to be dealing these words we're going to be dealing with today and tomorrow the first four words anybody so why does it say it says anybody so would mean just pointing it out here because we're going to be saying it over and over means means in the first place. Anybody in the first place there's nothing stopping anyone is after the fact. It's only culture after the fact. In other words, we're talking about two different situations and we have to see what they are. The six ways to to learn this mishna who cannot do Three people don't have enough deres is someone who is a deaf mute. Not just a person who's deaf. A deaf mute is pretty much look around this room. Pretty much everybody here and a young child. Oh, how come these can't do it? They're going to mess up the Oh, so this is another thing that we have to we're going to be discussing and I want to point it out here in the Mishna. So we see it says cannot do the Could it go on? We just said so should say not like everybody else besides the people that we just discussed if there was a witness one guy one okay so we're going to have to see what this means all the entire mission It's a short Mishna, three lines, but we don't have a lot of explanation here. If there's a there's a a witness that saw this, then it's okay. Even though it shouldn't be okay, but if he witnessed it, he's he's watching it. He saw the whole thing. It's good. Says here, I made a little chart for you guys. the words the the the two first words means what does mean in the first place I'll explain what that means means after the fact one is green like it's perfect it's great keep on going and is like not the best in the world what does that mean there's a story that happened a true story by where a guy he dropped some butter into his ch he asked the rabbi what's tal and the rabbi said it's butter. He said there's enough ch that it overcomes the butter. Great. So then he went from that day on for the rest of his life. And he put a little butter in the ch [snorts] what? What's that? That's the And in other words means in the first place. Can I go put butter into my ch in the first place? No. But after the fact after it happened and you go ask a rabbi say okay. So as the first two words of the seems like you could just go ahead and do it no matter what as the is going to explain why the double it should say what's once you say of course the first two words mean in the first place and the second words mean so what's going on Every time it says it means it's in the first place. what's so everybody that's an MDY for a little bit of time knows means you have an animal that you said I I'm designating this as an let's say as aim and then I come across a much nicer animal so it would make sense to bring the nicer animal to Hashem so you say this second animal should be instead of the first that's is awesome to do it's called the second animal gets the same exact designation as the first you have to treat the second one as the first the First it remains like the first. The second one remains like the first and everything's great. It looks something like this. So that's more that's awesome. But it says in the in the mission over there everybody could do it. Meaning even somebody that inherits okay whatever the is but the bottom line is it seems like it's so according to what you're telling me that means in the first place. So it seemed like you could do tomorrow means that you could do it. It says you should not switch a good one with a bad one. Meaning one that doesn't have a blemish with one that has a blemish. We're showing a large one, a small one. The point is even if it's a good if it's better, you still can't do it. Says that's not a question because over there the Mishna goes ahead and explains itself. over there it says the reason it's not because it's because if you go ahead and you do it you'll get malus in other words explains already that don't say that you should do it that it's a mitzah to do the opposite if you do it you get malus but means it's in the first place so again a person looks at somebody else and he says I want to give whatever you're worth in the thera to the md. So you look at this chart and you say let's take the green the green column any anybody that's between the age of five and 20 you go down if he's a z 20 if he's in a ka 10 look at somebody between the age of 20 and 60 most of the people in this room they're worth 50 uh aa 30 look what happens when you turn seven years you drop you drop from a 50 to 15 wow this It's it's it's it's brutal. Okay. So, >> huh. >> Right. Right. Uh relatively she doesn't drop that much. She doesn't drop. She drops from 30. Okay. It's the same kind of Okay, fine. So, anybody could do this. I could do it to you. You could do it to me. So, somebody could say I want Ellie Stfansky. Now, Ellie Stfansky is on the blue column between 20 and 60 is worth 50. Not because I'm a good slave. That's what the Torah says. The other thing is you go by slave. How much is this guy his [clears throat] true value in the market? If I were to sell him as a slave, how much is he worth? If he's nice, musculine, strong, great. If he's avat belly, the whole thing, he's a little worth less. So that's already that's a different thing. Okay. But it says you should do this in the first place. You should say, I want to give them like so and so. It's not a good thing. Why? If you stop promising, then you won't have a sin. Meaning, if you do promise, you will have a sin. It's better that you shouldn't promise than to promise and don't pay. It's even more than that. This is better not to make a nether at all. says argues and he says if you if you make a nether that you're going to give to daka and you pay that's great but the continu now again there's another thing that everybody in MDY knows what's the difference between a netheran and a dava n the dava is da and that's in the zoo. So when you say zoo, you're pointing to this a particular animal and you're saying I'm going to bring this animal as a carbon and what if something happens to this animal? You're off the hook. But you say then you're not off the hook. Means I will bring it no matter what. So says why does say if you make a nether and you pay it's great only when he says zoo because then he's not nothing nothing can happen nothing wrong will happen to him because worse comes to worse something will happen to the animal he's like I take upon myself what if you don't pay it it's a bad thing no good okay so we have a problem >> even if Yeah, >> even if you pay. But he said at right when he says I have a problem paying later is not the says. So now you're telling so says okay so is not is after the fact. But how could that be? It says everybody's so now you tell me only after the fact you don't in the first place you don't have to go in a you don't have to wear if you have four four corner garment says no Oh, it says yeah. When the word goes together with the word then of course in the first place they take out the word because we just learned that a woman is not in here. What's when you bring a carbon you put your all your body weight on the the carbon's head. So everybody should do even somebody that inherits it's says in okay fine I give up. You prove to me that means you should do it in the first place. We proved before that is not in the first place. So what is it or is in the first place but there's other places that's not in the first place. So what is it? Sometimes means in the first place, sometimes it means after the fact. So ask you're making an assumption and then you ask me questions. Don't make an assumption. Don't ask questions. You made an assumption in our that means in the first place and then you ask me a question. But the is not is you ask me a contradiction within the first four words means in the first place. So then why do you say it means only? No. Maybe in our means and then fits right in to to the words right afterwards only after the fact. after the fact. No, because of the wording. I had a major problem with the wording. The second part of it is means that it's only after the fact. Then the first words, it can't be, we're going just back to these words, right? It can't be that means and means why then why is the mission repeating itself? So for that we have an answer that what means one thing means another thing. The two different stories and there's six different ways to learn it. We're going to learn one or two today. H I was going to tell you a story, but it's going to have to wait tomorrow. Put the story right over here. Great. At number one, somebody who's you become tom by touching a dead person, by touching a dead mouse, by touching somebody who himself is avat because we're talking about he's not in He's a like every today is they all day long even though they what's the problem says what's so the first words of the is talking about somebody who's but what's the there's no oh we're talking about something special newai What does it mean? There are people who because they want to eat a carbon coming up whatever it is they want to they want to they want practice. So what do they do to get practice? They pretend every time they they make they they shut they pretend that it's they pretend it's a so they say everything I on on that should be like a carbon. So what's the problem is typically speaking but because you accepted upon yourself such a Yeah. Sometimes when you accept upon yourself something that's mut you you you you said this thing should be awesome for you. Why did you do it? Because you want to become kadesh. You want to refrain from doing something that you could but you don't. You want to give yourself extra. That's how you give yourself. The says a person that does that he becomes like the what does it mean? says in the should become when you give yourself when you're from things. So he's and he holds that when you do that they you have to treat it like nevertheless in other words if you're you can't check something in the when you're not so I would say that if you're to you can't check you can't go to the and you could as long as the going to say as long as The knife is long. I wasn't trying to play with the words over there. It just came out like that. As long as the knife is long. How does he do it? Because he can't touch it. Maybe he brings a long knife. Oh, he stand from a distance. I'm like this from a distance. So what he do? They shouldn't touch the baser. So that's I could go I'm to I could go. First part of the first two words of the Mishna is talking about I'm but I want a so use a long knife in the first place he could do it. But when it's a it's then well I shouldn't have to be because I might touch if I did it and then I go ask the rabbi after the fact I know for a fact I didn't touch besides that's what the continues to say that doesn't Then they cannot why because maybe they will pause. They'll cut cut and pause could do something bad. They could do something called means they'll take the knife and push down instead of cutting back and forth. Instead of back and forth, don't worry Ellie. They push down. That's good. What's the next one? So, very cool. If you take a knife and you cover the knife with a scarf and you sh the animal, that's according to one. But in other words, you're covering the knife. What you do here in this case and this is according to everybody is if you're able to put the knife in between the and the and then you [snorts] that's why because it's being covered by one of the if you're able to stick it into the neck of the animal before you do so the neck is covering the knife and then you turn the knife no good. Yeah, you got it. So, hold on. What do we have here? Tracheio Vashet. That's regular. >> Wow. Beauty. That's in between. >> This is Dresa pushing down. >> That's good. Yeah, >> that's bad. >> Bad. This is bad. You don't want to go down. You want to cut like a knife. Slice. And this would be Shahia. What's she? He's cut and then he stopped. Oh, what? I don't know what happened over there. Okay, that didn't look like she. Okay, we got to talk to him about it. [snorts] So says the Garo. So then the continuation of the Mishna that if people saw somebody we said watch the whole thing. What is it talking about? By the way, get this right. We're going to do this about six times. These same words, these 30 words tomorrow over and over and over again. It says that anybody we talk about here, let me show you. Here we go. And then it says a second later, if there's one person to watch, then it's okay. Is it going on? It can't be because that's not how you write it. You write not and if these three people that just mentioned on top, that's how you should write it. It should say not maybe it's talking about the person who's and he's not outside of English not he's not just regular we just established those are the first two words of the that he could do this in the first place perhaps you're talking about somebody who's went into but you also said that if he knows that he for sure didn't touch the animal. If the himself says it, that's good enough. So why do you need somebody to witness that he's okay? Says because he's talking about the he ran away. We don't we can't we can't reach him. So if somebody else comes along and says I saw that it was okay, he didn't touch it. Then it's good. Says, "What you telling me? Our Mishna is telling us the big of somebody who's tummy when and he can't he can't but if he didn't touch it's okay we had this because it says a woman could do it could do it even as long as they don't touch So it's not in our missions over there says over here we're talking about so here's the main thing over there it's I've just mentioned it because we're talking about other so we threw it in the as well we should remember this as well because we're going to bring it up again is the number one place because we're talking about we want to say that somebody should not over here. It's we're talking about so it mentions also someone who's have a good a wonderful day for coming. We're all going to finish the together. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdy.com.