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CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 114 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky
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- Good Voch - Introduction - 113B - 114A - 114B - Have A Wonderful Week -- MDY presents: "Nothing but the Daf", R’ Eli Stefansky’s MDY (Mercaz Daf Yomi) Shiur in a concise format - all the clarity of the full daf Shiur, with Reb Eli's unique charts and visual aids, without any extras (emails, stories etc.) Perfect for Chazarah or anyone who wants a quick, focused Daf.
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Beautiful [music]
[screaming]
voice. I were holding on.
Yesterday we had this amazing chart.
We have three of
the andro
and the
narrowed down six made them into three
one two and three. [snorts]
But the
teaches us the the purples on the
bottom. So we'll focus on the the three
on the top. We don't even have to focus
on all three. Just number one. The Gar
took two and made them one.
that
comes to say that you're not permitted
to cook even the fat of the animal with
milk. Fat is also a problem.
Now that's because holds
on. You have the an animal was born with
you're not allowed to eat
on top of we're going to make another is
we're going to give him a malus a second
time because he cooked it with milk is
fat. You're not allowed to eat the fats
on the on these animals. And if you cook
the fat with milk, you get a second
lashing two. That's only behold
as the
does he really hold this
interesting
never really met him
but we see this a lot of times says so
and so says a lot of times like you see
I think mentions the name of different
like I don't think he met him he says is
like he you heard from him.
There are two problems in the BD that
could happen. If the is or if the food
is
if a tummy and he eats
that star he gets
death penalty.
How do you know if both of them are
coming? The k is coming the food is the
true is toming.
You don't get
the he makes it. How do you say in
English? He takes he takes this piece of
food and he makes it. He defiles it. He
makes it not. So that's when you get the
death penalty.
It's already it's already
see the idea of
once it's already once you have the
problem of
your body that comes and and eats that
it's not you're not going to be you
don't that is doesn't go on top of the
is of the food that's already so the
says you know what you can look at it
three different ways always any way you
want you can say either
holds or you could hold
or you could say
it's him and his let's see
typically holds. So that's why you know
you have a piece of fat you can put
another
on top of it but is different
special it doesn't apply over there.
Next say you could say
in other words you can't put me in a
corner. There's no question here. Either
holds
right now. Okay. He never holds
but in our we have together
you have this on the screen. you have
this thing going and therefore it's a
special that tells us okay where when
you have
and you have
third answer is this is going to be
himself and holds
look at the
We don't know anything. Okay, we just
opened up the for the very first time
[snorts] and we don't know. We many of
us grew up with these and we're familiar
with them. So we we kind of know that
the of iser
cow's milk as well. We take it for
granted but the says gi is a goat.
What's this? Can't cook a goat with his
mother's milk. And what if it's not his
mother? What if it's his sister?
And he has two types of sisters. There's
older sister and a younger sister. What
does that mean? Older sister, we're
going to see means a sister that's born
in another year for meer. Meer is like
rash to rash.
She's born earlier. Or you have a
younger sister in the same year.
What about
a cow, a goat that's not a mother? Maybe
it has to be a mother type of animal.
Has to be a cow that already gave birth
and is nursing because she gave birth.
What about a cow that didn't give birth
yet? A pregnant cow, let's say, is
nursing. Is that milk user? So, we all
know the answer. What's the answer? Yes.
But how do we know it?
all these different things.
This is She's not a mother yet. She has
milk, but she's not a mother yet.
I have to prove it.
If you look at the bottom of the chart,
it says the the bottom right corner,
we're learning from not for not the milk
of a of a male. And I said over, you
know, the Gmorra, a male could have
milk. Look it up in Google. It's
possible.
So
a male milk doesn't count, but this
female milk because one day she'll
eventually she could come to being a
mother. So therefore, it's us today.
If you don't have this, it could get
confusing here.
I don't know which one is what.
If you cook the fat inside of milk, we
have
you get malus. You don't get malus. What
could the be if you cook milk together
with fat? So based on what we just
learned, it's easy. What's could you add
one is on top of another is comes first.
An animal's born with fat. It's also for
you to eat. Now you take the fatty, you
add milk to it, it's already it's like
eating putting cheese on a cheeseburger
on a burger which is already tra another
is one one on top of over here. You
already have it's also for you to eat
and you're putting milk on top of it.
Perhaps
the one that says you get because you
could do two. You get an additional
and the other one maybe hold
that's why you don't get for the
no
certainly you don't get
on eating it. Why?
There's no here. Why is there no?
Because
comes first.
You hear this? It's very interesting
question. Maybe you could get a malus
for cooking. Why?
There's only one going on over here.
What's What does that mean?
I want to give this guy makers for
cooking. He didn't eat the he didn't eat
this product. So he didn't he wasn't IV
and he wasn't I but he did something
else. He cooked it. Cooking alone is
like the video with the guy cooking in
the garbage can. That itself is aer
cooking the two products together you
get an iser.
But here's the here's the question. It's
a very question. Could you be on bish on
cooking when you can't be on eating?
You have a product here. The fat
it's fat. It's also for you to eat. Then
you add milk to it. You can't you can't
add milk to it. It's already
So the question is if you can't be
eating, could you be cooking?
Interesting.
So says, "Yeah, why not? It's there. You
cooked. Why not?
The Tory called it
three times even though one of them
means eating.
If you don't get malus for eating it, so
you don't get malus for cooking it
or you could go the other way.
Everything is like you go in different
directions here. We're not we can't be
put in a corner.
Of course, for for cooking it. Why?
Because you just cooked two things that
are awesome to cook together and
say is on eating.
You don't get a second is because you
can't put a second on top of an
original.
And this mother says, "No, since you're
over on cooking, so you're also on
eating."
One M says, "You get malus." Why?
Because you cooked. The other says, "You
don't get malus." Because he's talking
about eating and there's no malus under
eating.
What is it called? That that that milk
on top that water on top of the milk.
Here we go. way. So that water on the
bottom, rais here in Israel, when you
open up a lean, I haven't done it in a
while, you open up any yogurt, you'll
see that little a little bit of water on
top. Is that water considered milk or
not?
>> Huh? Milk or not? What do you say?
>> It's not milk.
You're not if you cook with that
and if you cook blood with milk potter
blood is not meat. So you
have bones, senus, horns, hooves.
We said even if you eat a bone of a of a
lion, you're not over on tra.
>> Well, I'm not talking about the the bone
marrow or anything like that. Just the
actual bone that's like wood.
All this stuff is not considered a it's
not considered.
So what do you see over here?
The fact that it's that
oh so here's the question.
So these are things that we learned in
and whoever is with us invim
is not a problem
is very simple who's shing an animal in
the mikdash and he wants to get the
owner he doesn't like the owner that
brought the the animal so he thinks in
his mind just a thought he thinks he's
going to eat this animal in three days
from now instead of in one day two days
he thinks in three days he ruined the
animal and if he eats it he's
so now this meat is no
This carbon is no good. It's peagle.
It's leftover.
You have an animal you're supposed to
eat for two days. It's left over in the
fridge on the third day
animal.
So now the question is this animal is
also what do you do with it? Are you on
you are
question is why the meat is also for you
to eat? It's pigle. It's nicer. How you
going to eat it? It's awesome. If you
eat it, you get cars. So how could you
put another is on top of it called? So
what if you cook with with milk? It's
already also from before. So what do you
see that
says
you're right not a from there great
was paying attention
this
we just learned that this water that
comes the way that that separates from
the milk it has of milk
and the the water the the the liquid
that comes out of olives has like oilish
argues he says or explains
says right we have the concept called
what is that
without showing the whole video just
like the first frame here in order for
any fruit or food stuff to become
they have to be you have to
>> susceptible
>> no there's a better Excellence.
>> Huh? Activate.
>> Okay, we'll take the word. This is
probably a better word. Okay, activate
is not a bad word.
Yes, this water stuff here, let's show
the water again.
This stuff at the end of the video in 19
hours whatever it is that water that way
is considered like milk for the
in order to make something to activate.
Oh to activate the the food so that can
become you have to spread some liquid.
One of the seven liquids one of the
seven liquids is milk. There's milk,
honey, dew, wine, blood. So milk also
includes the way but not for
it's not enough milk for it to be if you
cook it with meat.
All right.
I'm trying to say here is that we're
going to do this kind of three times and
it's the same idea. It's very different
than usual not very but we're going to
say and is going to be great and then
right after we finish is great. The Gar
brings a PU and then the Gar says, "But
you just said, "Why do you need a Puk?"
Oh, because I forgot is no good.
We didn't do this three times in a row.
Here's number one. Says,
"How do I know that the milk of other
animals besides a goat, such as a cow
and a sheep, are also a problem for
A cute story.
Okay, you know what? Let's just do the
I'll tell you the story in a second.
There's no to to to
have the the mother and the son have
relations. There's no between a mother
and a son when it comes to an animal.
You as donor, you don't have no answer
with it.
Yet you're not allowed to cook the milk
of the mother with the son.
You're not allowed to put the cow
together with a goat.
Certainly, you shouldn't be able to cook
with the milk of a cow together with the
goat. You hear this again? a mother and
a son,
they don't have is yet there's
so a cow that has with a goat certainly
the the you shouldn't be able to cook
it. So we have we have a that tells us
that what it's also to eat with a cow.
It's not just a goat. And then the says
I have a comes to include other animals.
I don't understand. You just finished
saying it's perfect. We have
I'll tell you why. Because is no good.
I could ask a question on the beginning
of the
says the difference between the
beginning of the end of the
what's your
brought from the mother
you know a mother has but also it has a
but it has a that what that you cannot
check the mother and a son in the same
day we had a whole perk earlier in the
in the that talks
So therefore, that's why you can't cook
the mother and the and and the son
a cow and a goat. They don't have that.
That's why
falls off because the mother has a
certain that's why I need a ple. Now
we're going to do the same thing again
on another.
So we're doing
the same kind of interesting. We're
going to finish then we're going to say
oh we have a and then says so why do you
need a because is no good. But we're
learning a different.
So, we know that
when you have a bunch of animals,
newborns,
from that year, you take the animals and
you put them in a pen and you let them
out. You count 10. The 10th one gets a
red dot.
Now, what about an animal that was born
a year before? You can't put it in the
same pen. It's different.
>> Do I have to show the whole thing or you
guys know what it is? What? gets all the
way to number seven. What does he do?
Revise remember that
>> and that become
>> fine. So how do you know that the goat
it's to cook a goat with its older
sister from a different year?
I'll give from his mother
a mother. It's possible that a mother
and her son are going to be in the same
year of nicer because she was born the
same year as her own son. They were both
born in 2026. You hear this mother and
son. So born in 2026 or tim what what
year are we inv
you take mice from both of them?
But his his older sister, we're talking
about not a younger sister.
If a mother's milk is awesome, certainly
the the the the sister who can't even be
nicer with him. Okay, so we have a great
to tell us what that a sister is milk is
also with the goat. And then the says,
Oh, what a
beginning. You're ready off.
You're bringing me right from the
mother.
Like we said before,
the older sister, which is not in the
same year of
your a sister and a brother in the same
day.
And that's why we need a says
a sister that was born in the same year
as him. You're not allowed to use her
milk.
We're going to learn from
a combination.
Let's learn from the mother and
therefore the younger sister.
younger sister is not also to the same
day.
We already established that our older
sister is also to use her milk and
but older sister is not in the same year
of miser the younger sister is maybe
can't learn a younger sister from older
sister
mother will prove it but you said a
mother's a problem because it's a
problem of of
okay the older sister will prove it and
we go around in a circle
I believe we have a chart here but it
might be more confusing than that. Let's
learn from
all the way top going to learn but you
can't sh the same day. So
isn't the same.
Okay. So we go around in a circle.
Each one has a plus and a minus.
But there's a common denominator
of all three of them should be to to
cook the the meat in milk.
So two I'll bring the younger sister in
other words the the sister of this goat
that was born in the same yearcon.
So just uh I just threw it in here. We
could follow these steps if you want
from a mother.
Mother's
also to cook
with her son even though you take in the
same year. So therefore
should also be so no mother you can't
bring a right from mother because mother
is second in the purple
so no I'll bring a r from a par that
it's tof together with the goat yeah but
a par is also in our so then we'll bring
a from mother and then we go around in a
big circle and kit why do I need a for
the older sister says you
I can learn it from these these things
go around in a circle.
I have another thing to learn from it.
Oh, how do I know that you're not listen
to this? How do you know that you're not
a cow in its own milk? The Tory says you
know how to chef the cow
with its goat with its mother's milk.
How do you know itself with its own
milk? You're not let you know how to
cook. Yeah. Can't cook. What I say chef?
Forget she. So how do you know? Listen
to this. How do you know that you know
how to cook? I call it but you guys want
to call it cook. So we call it cook. How
do you know how to cook a goat in its
own milk?
>> [cough]
>> two two fruits on the same day. In other
words, a brother and a sister. Two
fruits in the same day.
The mother and her son
on the same day
preish.
You know how to cook the meat together
with the the meat of a of a son together
with the milk of the mother. So that's
two two fruit. The milk is a fruit and
the son is a fruit.
Certainly the mother herself with the
with the fruit is not.
So once again a third time we have the
same thing. We have a great that teaches
that a mother and her own milk is also
the cook. And then the brings
Listen to this. Not kidding. What's
worse? What's closer in relationship? A
son and a mother or a son and a sister?
What's closer?
>> Son and mother.
>> That's what you think.
>> Yeah.
I don't know. Genetically, not
genetically. Stop. What's the So, let's
check this out. If
you have a a horse and a horse
got married and they had a horse son,
but that mother horse
married a donkey. What happened? What do
they have together?
>> A mule.
>> Is the son a ladder married the mule?
No. No. also two different two different
um uh
>> species but the son is allowed to marry
his mother in this case.
>> Yeah. Horse and his mother are allowed
to get married. There's no answer. So
what do you see? The brother and the
sister are also but the brother and the
mother are motor. So maybe the wants to
say
and pre the two offsprings are also
together.
So mela maybe the milk which is like a
the horse son is mut to cook with the
mother
the milk is a pre it's a fruit of the
mother so maybe you should be able to
cook the fruit with the mother because
over here in this case you'll marry off
you the from that has two horses you'll
marry off the the sun horse with the
mother horse
>> yeah you don't like this. Okay.
>> Says, "What is what's the obvious answer
at?" What's the obvious answer?
>> Huh? What's the obvious answer? That the
reason why the brother and sister not
allowed to get married has nothing to do
with the fact that they're brother and
sister. The fact that they have a
different father. The father messed the
whole thing up. And I'll prove it to you
because if you have a horse brother and
a horse sister, they are allowed to get
married.
Oh, what if you have two? What if if
these are the brother and sister? You
have two mules that are brother and
sister. In that situation, they wouldn't
allow to be married get married.
In that case, guess what? It's the
reverse
g.
>> Yeah,
>> you could calm down for a second over
here. The son cannot marry his mother.
Why? Why can he marry his own mother?
Because they're two different species.
It's funny. She gave birth to him, but
he's a different species than his own
mother. So, he can't breed them.
>> Let's just finish this and then we're
done for today. We'll prove it the same
idea, but we'll prove it from slaves.
Then what?
Oh, we have a mother who is a slave and
we have a son who's a slave and we have
a sister who was released. She used to
be a slave but she's released. So, who
can marry who in this case say?
The can marry his mother. This is this
is super weird. David can marry his
mother but he cannot marry a sister. Why
can't he marry his sister?
>> Cuz she's she's a full-fledged Jew.
She's she's released
says don't bring from
I might have skipped some words over
there but the no
okay says get it's not it's not a
relationship thing it's the fact that
she was released and I'll prove it to
you what about when the mother was
released but the sister wasn't released
so then it's reversed then a a brother
can marry the sister slave But he cannot
marry his own mother because she's
already released.
Wow, we're running late. Let's just get
six more lines.
You're not allowed to plant two
different species of seeds in the
ground.
You're not to put two different types of
seeds in the ground. But you allow to
take one seed and put it with his
mother. Who's the mother in this case?
The ground. He's born from the ground.
So his mother's the ground and pre
even the two seeds together are not user
only if you have the mother involved. In
other in other words, if you have the
ground involved
if you take two seeds and you put them
in a jar in a glass cup, nothing happen.
You're not over anything. It's when you
put in the ground and the ground is the
mother. So you have two two fruit with
the mother.
In other words, you have the meat and
the milk. It's two separate entities.
But the milk with its own it's like one
entity.
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