CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 103 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. I didn't think I would ever say this. Live from St. Paul Sao, Brazil. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Omar withholding the B. That's right. 14 lines from the bottom. So if you look over here, you might be able to see it on the screen. The of is we take the word we we split it in two. Something that's still alive, but when you cut it off, it's not alive anymore. So that's the next want to see. Yeah. The first actually is the the we just read it on the but the next is in the so holds it's different than means a whole limb with the senus with the muscles with the with the uh bones are what if you have a a that has no bone bones like uh like the heart, a liver. Okay. But baser is different. Just a piece of flesh, a piece of steak without any bones, without anything from a live animal. So from this that this animal is a shouldn't eat from it two from a living animal and baser meat from a why because what he learns is and then he learns. So the P is telling us two different things. There's a and there's a different of fine that's so let's pay attention says the only teaches one the teaches two says the opposite let's see if we can get there oh the teaches us two according to the is only one let's inside two. The first teaches us but also which are very similar. That's the says it's only talking about an animal. What's a tra? What's a tra? We had a whole parake here. an animal that's not going to live. According to oneita for 12 months, it has a hole in the heart. It has we saw we did a live demonstration on the lung. Different things, different holes, different things. Okay. Now, let's look at the chart for a second. Let's look at this one. If he ate a and we're it's two different you see is one according to and is another so obviously according to you on two different yeah the whole thing they warn you let's now let's go to for a Look at is in one. So if it's in one only one very posit. So here we're in right now. How many are you now? Meat from a live animal and from two. Let's go to now. and buser tray for how many one. It's all Yeah. When you have these slides, it's a lot easier. No, it makes it clear. Did I do that? >> I did that. two lines from the bottom without looking at any charts. What? What should it be? Is one puka is for sure another nobody argues that those are two different and here I'm going to show you now is one and is another is one. So if you eat those two okay that it's two different according to everybody. If he ate he ate a whole limb, he ripped off the leg of and it's a that's two. The problem is what do we do? Why it's two different Why in the world? Let's go back to here. Abra is the Pik on the right. Bos is the Pik on the left. How could the only one? There's a difference between one animal and two animals. If it comes from two animals, there's a there's a tra and one animal. And from a second animal, okay, but if it comes from one animal, that's where argues why the problem is what's the difference if it's one animal? If it's one, it's still two that tell you you're not allowed to do these two. So you should be two. Why? Why does say that if it comes from one animal, you pot you're only one? We have a few them here. Okay, hold up here. Very simple. Everything is simple. This animal was born a tra born a but when does the when does the happen? So it depends. There was a that we spoke about yesterday. Is a live animal the default of a live animal. How do you say default in Hebrew? >> There's a sh When an animal is born, do we view it as if it's cut up into pieces? Cut up. That's the default. It's chopped up. Why? Because every animal, what do you do with an animal at the end of that animal? What do you do with it? You chop it up into pieces. So, it's born chopped up into pie. Do we view it as if it's chopped up into pieces that it's the moment it's born? Each a is a you don't view it as it's one one animal. No, it's parts. So when it oh so when this animal says is born a tra born a that means tra came first. Now if comes after it's born when you rip off a limb that's a problem. But if happens when it's born. So when it's born it's a tra when it's born it's so it happens simultaneously. Okay. So let's see inside it became a birth caused it to become a tra ripped something off. Its lung got punctured while it was born. So it's born a second it's born it's considered that each a is by itself and therefore there's a the moment it's born the moment it's born it's also it happens simult They come together and says that's the says no an animal is not born came first and comes second. You can't put one is on top of another is let's see what he did here. I'm looking at I'm seeing this for the first time. I apologize because like I said on the plane I had internet but it just wouldn't download it was born [clears throat] oh you see it's neutrif it has it has a a nail inside its stomach so it's tra and a happen together in one box says no and happens later the Pray for happen first happens much later. So since it happened much later this you can't put one is on top of another is once this piece of meat has to it that's it. It's one is you can't put another one afterwards. Now we're going to go and say either everybody holds like this or everybody holds like that and we'll come up with another everybody holds that an animal when it's born is not each. Oh, so this is also that we had yesterday and the day before is a very very stronger. How do I know? because it was before m was already so since it's so powerful it could apply itself on top of another is so the animal was born a later on it became but it's such a powerful that even a before was in it so I could put it on top of of another smaller you could do when it's a strong The good news is if you're you're not paying attention now, we're going to do this whole again like a freebie. So, so either you pay attention now, you don't have to pay attention later or you can pay attention both. You can do whatever you want. No, everybody holds that animals born as so then what's the problem? If it was born a tra and it's born, so they both come together. No, we're not going with the happened later on in it life could once the animal is born as can you add another called on top of the you could do is he no there's no problem is born as a later on in life he became a so why not give him give him 80 malus instead of 40 And the other says, "No, you can only give him one." Here I have a chart here for this one. What does he say? As he made the that's how he became a tra by pulling off its leg over the the the knee. Let's say we learned is a tra. Okay. So as he pulls off the he becomes a animal is not born as therefore when the animals is five five months old somebody ripped its leg off as he ripped his leg off he became a in one second but wait a minute if he's born with so it didn't become a tra together with but if he's not born with you hold that he's not so the and happened simultaneously later on in its life. So we had one shot that it would happen simultaneously when it's born says no it happened simultaneously later on in it life. Here comes the freebie. It's the same over again just talking about something similar but it's the same idea over and over. Listen to this. The guy wants to be he's like a bad guy. He's having a bad day. He wants to he wants to show Hashem you know [snorts] this this guy he wants to eat from a live animal. So how many is he over should be over three. So the says no he's only over over two and we have to understand why again it's it's fat that's forbidden. The animal is still alive. And not only that, that was a saw. Why two? It should be three. What does mean? I know in the name of said three. So why are you saying the name only two? says holds in the name of which one is it. So we're doing the whole sorry some people are going to enjoy it. It's easy now. What happened was the moment it was born it was a is the did it happen when it was born or does happen later. So if it happens later, you're not going to be only two of not three. At the moment he's born. All three of them happen simultaneously. You're holding. Okay. So says no animals not born with. So what was this animal born with? So only two is an animal is not born with and so what's the sha same thing like we had in the right before and it literally goes in the same order also. Can jump on top of the other two. Why should go on top of two other is how do I know it's not a good enough reason to put it on top. Or you could go the other route. Say no. Everybody hold an animal born with no. So if the animals born so so it's born with should be the happened when it was 5 months old. Oh so according to this it's a little different. The question is the third of and what's the question? Can tra on top of and you see that goes on top of how do I see it? Because it says in the look at this says why does the Torah repeat itself? Because if you do eat a of ana too you're not only you also you're not only you're so that's the says same same idea by us from the fact that the Torah says in that you're over two not just but also of a dead animal. And I'm saying this for you guys here in Brazil because maybe somebody didn't hear it. There's a lot of confusion when we're learning this. So I want to say this bikiter. Every animal that dies, every animal that dies without is an avail. So does and it gives tuma. So a dead horse gives tuma and a dead cat gives tuma. And so does a dead sheep and a dead cow. They give tuma. But if you the sheep and you sh the cow, there's no tuma. What about a mouse? Does a mouse give tuma? Obviously, it's a shar. What about so what's the what's the so in the give tomma? Let's say a snake is a sher doesn't give toma. So in the shrutz and that's that's where people get confused. But in animals, a lion gives off to a dead elephant gives off toma and and and even more than that we have to remember dead cows give off to if they weren't. Oh, so says it's a dead cow, but the dead cow has inside of it fat that's also for you to eat. those fat if you eat that fat too. So also also when a person ate the just like it's in the same pos you see this I really should have underlined is in the same pos so could apply itself to so also applies itself to and that's why three that that this is special. The works like that. Why? Because there are some what animal you're allowed to eat all its huh >> you guys don't know >> the what's like a deer venison you're allowed to eat all the so since the gave it a that's different than so I would say that it's not on it at all we're holding here we go super super interesting questions Now, you hear what's going on here? This is crazy. You take a this big of chop it in half and eat one half and then eat another half. If you were to ask me before I prepared this gimmar, even though I gave Shar on this last time, I would say there's no Why not? [laughter] What's the difference? Listen to what Rashi says. It's very important. That's what you said when you Yeah. You said all in theor you don't you don't have to eat the whole swallow one shot. You take a half a kaz put in your mouth half and so why all of a sudden now not says he explains beautifully because this whole thing is when you eat bones of a animal you're not anything you can eat the bones of a horse you're not butdish of of that if you eat the bones in the senus of the animal together with the meat so Maybe. Listen. And it's not a maybe. He says, "Yeah, that's how it is. It's means in one shot half not." And usually I have to come on the whole maybe maybe half and half. You're not listen to this says potter. If you eat one half and then another half, even though it's you do within a few seconds, you potter. So he asks him, "And what if he did it in his mouth?" He put in a whole in his mouth. In his mouth, he chopped it with his teeth and then he ate half and half. That's also not so poss if you divide it up outside. I agree with that. If you didn't eat the whole shot, but if you did inside your mouth, listen to this. This is very important. This is what I was telling before. Says the main part of eating is what your mouth tastes. Your taste buds. What's What happens afterwards when once it goes down your throat? It doesn't matter to us in your mouth. He put a hulk in his mouth. He enjoyed his eyes. It needs to go into your into your into your stomach. You have to be satiated. And how did it go into your stomach? The wrong way. Half and half. Half and half is not good enough. Ask the bomb question. Let me just show you this. How does it ever happen? >> Oh. Oh, that's exactly what the Gumar is asking now. Ask the Gmor bomb question. Once you chew it in your mouth, how you going to eat? You have to chew. And when you chew, you cut it in half. You cut it in half. So, in the mouth itself, you broke it up. So, and then once he swallowed it, you telling me it has to be in the stomach. It has to be whole. M reminds me of my mother. I guess all your mothers did this. When you used to fight with your brother that your piece is broken, the cook is broken. But in your stomach it breaks up anyways. Anyway, she said it in your mouth. It breaks up anyways. Breaks up anyways. So you're not eating his eyes. There's a little tiny bone that has a little flesh on the on the round part where if you remember from a few days ago, he went like this. He the calf. So there's a little bone over there and that you could eat in one shot. If you if you cut it, he argues on this whole thing. Not true. He says and seems like like him. It says there's a over here. If you break it up outside of the body and you eat half and half just because they're not close to each other, these two pieces, it doesn't mean that it's missing in the ma and the action of eating a kaz. He ate a kaz and so what if it was split? Luckish. I hope you're not eating stuff. Now, this is galdic. You have to eat a kazay. Now, if a piece gets stuck between your teeth and you didn't floss, so you're not you don't have a kaz. Why? Because you have to swallow a whole kaz. You didn't swallow. You swallowed minus whatever is between your teeth. We just said accordish, right? According to it's what you taste in your mouth. But according to you have to swallow it. It never went down your pipes. It's got stuck in your teeth. Says, "No, you have to taste it." Afterwards, it went between your teeth. Okay. But you're already on the when you tasted it. Everybody agrees that you're not you're not if it's between the teeth. How do you say in Portuguese? Is like the pallet up there. the pallet on top that's for sure not but that's enough for anything like he said but we're not talking about not to confuse all these things yeah some people you just hear the word you want to throw up. A person ate a half of his and he he vomited it up and then he went and he ate another at the end of the day he had a in his in his throat. So Rashi says over here The the question that everybody should be asking is didn't say a minute ago that if he split half and then another half at all and all of a sudden now he ate a half and he ate another half now he's he says he's he argues on that on that over there and just goes on to explain something very special that what we're talking about enjoying it benefiting it like a piece of chocolate in your mouth He already tasted the two halves. So what if it's one after another? He had good in his mouth. It was still within the amount of time that he's supposed to eat it within 3 to 9 minutes. Nowadesh that when according to the you have to have it a benefit in yourishkas then it means to be satiated in the not to taste it in the so if a half went in and then you spit it up and then another half went in that's not a that's not satiated in the and that's why and on that he it's considered only eating says so we have to remember this seems to be the ready what's what's the questional what's the question whether that's considered digesting it or not so then he should have asked on a why half a kaz ask on a kaz if a person ate a full kazalus and then he threw it up and he ate it again without knowing he threw it up for whatever reason on the same so you should bring a raass that has to do with with the mouth with the with with tasting it says tells here forgot his learning. We see it by a lot of you know you get older unfortunately he forgot his learning so you know he didn't want to be rude he didn't want to like oh you said it so he you know sometimes when people forget a little hint that's all you need a little something so then he said why asked why do you need another You should have asked in the whole you you learned two things from first of all the fact that if you if you throw up his eyes and eat again you see that that's not considered digesting they just what's the word I'm looking for they just did and the reason why you need two things first of It has to be that it's not digested and also you have to have both times. So you see both things didn't answer said the god gave him a little brother. I'm gonna remind you that you yourself said this took and said you had enough from the In other words to have a wonderful day. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdy.com.