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CHAZAQ's Torah Talks #223 Rabbi Yonah & Shlomo Landau - The Life & Legacy of Rabbi Yaakov Yosef
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He's saying that there was sort of a
wild wild west type in New York. It's
all over the place. Everyone was able
essentially to declare himself a rabbi.
This is culture. This is not culture.
There was an understanding even among
themselves that and and obviously back
in Europe the United States was
considered the typhen of Medina. And
there was a certain understanding from
the kahillas back here that they needed
to have a stronger backbone. that
triggered a search. So that there was 18
different gahillas that they officially
went out on a search. Uh you know they
would went off to Europe to find a chief
rabbi.
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>> Welcome everyone to tonight's program,
the Torah Talks, Kazak's Tuesday night
program. We have amazing special guests.
Um, today we have a very important
topic, the life and legacy of Rabak
and we have Rabbi Lando and his son
Landau.
Welcome. Welcome.
So um before we before of course we want
to talk about the the chief rat the
first chief rat by of New York could you
just give us a small background about
about yourself? Yeah, I was born after
the war in Hungary
and then in
stay I not remember I was a kids because
they everybody was good they killed the
Jews then there
>> what year did you come to when was the
America
>> 47 I was a baby
>> was the boy
>> no before them really before them
a few years before them I was small kids
and we went to the the the school went
in English in Jewish in the sat was make
the big reb
a school for Eden and it is told for
everybody have to go for English also
>> that's you have to go in business not
can this this is no no good
>> everything so
music was I guess so my my father was
born in November of 1947 and they were
seen in Hungary.
>> Hungary.
>> Uh they immigrated to the United States
when he was a 14 or 15 year old boy.
>> 15.
>> How old were you? We obviously
>> eight or nine years old. Eight or nine
year old boy. They immigrated to the
United States and uh he was attracted to
Satner. Sat of course came down to the
United States. He settled first. You
know,
there was a bunch of other at that
point, but he was attracted to Sapp in
particular and uh he always loved even
as a young child as a he always loved
history speaking to people from
everywhere going to different
uh and you know that's how he developed
>> he met
but a lot of a lot of the previous Gymam
uh he met a lot of people that knew
Godam even from
>> from
before. Yeah.
>> So that's that's the origins of how he
got interested in history and then he
developed a peculiar interest in uh
American Jewish history.
>> Amazing.
>> Uh yeah.
>> Well there because of the Eden.
>> Yeah. So the well because the rebate
which for him you know that when he says
the reb
>> said that uh you know even though that's
the United States was considered sort of
the tribina at that formed
>> um there was a lot of you know Jews and
you know
>> honest and good
>> and what what so talk so the the of
course rabbi you have tremendous history
about of of so many of the Gdome. Can
you can we're talking today about about
Raak Zal. Can you can you talk can you
talk to us about how did it come to be
of that there's a chief rabbi of of of
New York? What what was going on before
there was a chief rabbi? How did how did
he become the chief rabbi? What was the
background? What was going on?
>> Because he
sat when he came to the United States
say was a big sadic in Europe.
He was say
he came because he grew a big rabbi. He
was a holy man.
He say
go.
>> Yeah. So essentially
the reason why my father was so amazed
by
>> was the the
said that uh
>> say
>> yeah the the United America New York
rather only had one mud aa so he was a
legit mudasa and he was the and given
because obviously he was never replaced
you know he so my father felt that this
was a very strong endorsement from SAP
which was you know not
>> yeah didn't give to anybody. Yeah. So
that's that's that's what
>> so what what was going on during during
that time meaning that there was rabbis
there but what what was the central
force that that the people at the time
said we got to make a chief rabbi what
was the importance
The name of the party.
So he he's saying that there was sort of
a wild wild west type in New York as
opposed to uh the strictly structured
>> back over it was all over the place.
Everyone was able essentially to declare
himself a rabbi and they'll say this is
kosher. this is closer, this is not
closer. Uh and and there was an
understanding even among themselves that
and and obviously back in Europe the
United States was considered the typhen
of Medina and there was a certain
understanding from the Kahillas back
here that they needed to have a stronger
backbone if they wanted to
>> hold on to that Judaism that we we need
to have more of a structure in order to
to stay strong.
>> Yes. and and that triggered a search. So
that there was 18 different gahillas
that they officially went out on a
search uh you know they would went off
to Europe to find a chief rabbi.
>> Okay. and and what what what happened
once he became um the the chief rabbi
can can you talk about more about regard
regarding you're talking about uh
Kashwise can you talk about maybe what
was what what he what did he try to
accomplish and what was I guess what
what was the reaction I guess
>> the team know
everybody to go to him and then they
start to make trouble that's the
troublemaker.
>> So, so
there's there's there was sort of two
sides to it. Uh, one of which was there
was, you know, every butcher as opposed
to back home, you know, where you had
the had to be by the uh in here every
every can be gets me from anyone that
declared himself a rabbi.
>> So for him it was super important to
make sure that it is actually reliably
culture meat. Uh but also part of it was
that as he as he started engaging with
different issues in the community, it
turned out that this one sort of by
backfired the most. Uh it was mostly
about a new tax that he initiated uh
another saint for each for each stamp
for each plumba uh on the chickens and
>> and this caused a huge uh backfired.
There's an uproar in the
>> there's an uproar by a bunch of you know
by the butchers themselves and a bunch
of house housewives actually
>> you know for the additional cost and uh
and there was a lot of butchers at that
time were some of them were you know
owned by rough people and they started
instigating him they worked together
actually with the local Yiddish speaking
media
>> uh to you know continuously shun him and
work against him
>> they were bad mouthing
sort of became a a sort of very you know
large part of his legacy
>> but although there was a lot of
different policies as well that he you
know
>> what
I got to
>> so what was what was the
>> the funeral
>> I guess I had the story that he last uh
with the freezer which is that one of
the butchers actually once locked him
into a freezer
>> uh as he was inspecting the meat eat or
something.
>> So what what happened what happened at
the end of that day?
>> I don't know. He obviously survived
but I to show the level of animosity
that existed there.
He says he he says that you know the
interesting phenomenon was that once he
died even the lay man not just the other
even the lay man felt like ashamed for
what they did and they understood that
they wronged them.
>> Yeah. I was in
>> what was what what was the there um
someone I heard about there was this he
gave this uh final
>> because
after the
cross in
somewhere
when the still
when when everyone assembled his his his
followers, his detractors, they all came
back. They all came to the to the
standing room only.
There are biters in the ship.
He says that after the famous story of
the you know the funeral procession that
you know there was a bunch of riots it
was called back then the largest
anti-semitic incident on the United
States council you know um then he says
that years after there was uh that exact
exact factory that had employees throw
out you know garbage iron and hot water
on the on the
>> and the people walking the the prison.
>> Yeah. I had sort of a uh corporate
retreat on a on the
>> those dimensions on the river
>> and there a business gathering whatever
it is
>> and there was some accident uh and a lot
of them died.
>> Understanding afterwards that this was
the sort of the owners for what they
did.
>> This was this um at that time and for
many decades that was one of the largest
the largest funeral in in America. What
what was what what do you think was the
reason that that um there was such a big
um
>> gathering? What what was what was the
the mida the impact of the r that that
so many people said they want to come
and show their respects to the
years later.
Foreign speech. Foreign speech. Foreign
speech.
some clothes.
It says that that at the end of the day
there was a certain realization and they
they were Jewish, you know, and and
certain realization
Jewish whatever is they saw what what
the EMS was,
>> right? And there's obviously I'm not
sure if you have it as a question there,
but there's obviously the there was they
were fighting after who gets you know to
bury him in their plot
>> which cahila. And so part of it uh they
were lobbying the amuna you know his
wife and the one came out with came with
the best package if you will the best
the most amount of money and
>> she she got sort of a retirement and
they didn't end up keeping their word
either after he died and after
everything they
>> she he died without nothing and she got
nothing
>> after being promised
>> terrible kind of kick
So the revival at the was a was a
momentary lapse.
>> Yeah, it was unfortunately the
Yeah.
>> Well, the the r of saying of course it's
famous about about the cautious. You
touched upon before. Maybe there are
some other maybe um issues that he was
trying to deal with that maybe aren't as
well known. Can you maybe touch upon
that?
It's it's essentially his the way that
he looked at his job was to enforce a
infrastructure or to create an
infrastructure as it did in Europe. Uh
and you know some people would say
ultimately that was the failure
>> right as in
there was a different approach needed.
you know, we have a first amendment. We
can do whatever we want. We can say
whatever we want.
>> A bill of rights. We have a certain
right to do whatever.
>> Versus in Europe, the the rebels
actually had power, you know, given to
them by the government. So they were
used to a very different environment uh
and how to govern. uh so when a he came
to the United States and implemented
tried to implement a system like that
and the people some of the people
revolted he couldn't use the same
measures and they didn't have the
backing of you know the secular
authorities or anything like that quite
the opposite
>> well what would be one of one or two um
life lessons that from from the from the
r that we that that that that we should
all remember on um on his yard site and
about his life that can apply to our
lives. Lisa,
>> we try to do something people going all
over the year day to spell us out.
>> Yeah. I think I think one of the things
he always used to say that uh you know
he famously he wasn't the first choice
uh he the malam was asked before and uh
some others
>> people were afraid like you said earlier
even the bel said people were afraid to
come here
>> there was a certain danger a spiritual
danger that people felt uh
>> is it might not be worth it you might
like too much danger
>> you might get sakas
more damage than
>> than good.
>> Uh but nevertheless, he did say yes. Uh
and he he gave it his all. He he uh his
delicious was as fierce as you would
think that he's standing in
>> Vilna. uh if he didn't change
>> his uh his shashkafa his outlook what
what the message to give over to the
people was still on that
>> he famously also didn't speak English uh
which was one of the one of the the
things that the local Yiddish papers
really lambasted so
>> for them was super important that their
representative the chief rabbi speaks
the language and the like
>> okay can can you talk about maybe um
some some uh Yeshua salvations or or or
impact that of of course the people come
to the to the RV's uh the Kev on on the
yard side or throughout the year.
>> Yeah. So I can tell you that growing up
so uh since I I'm a child I remember we
used to go a couple of times a year like
every
>> but then he started writing my father is
has written in like aidish newspaper for
over 50 years
>> and he started writing about uh
and many people started calling him and
asking him and he started taking people
there like just friends like let's go
>> and then he started telling us like this
person had a sh that night is he he told
me earlier that a friend of his told him
that he hasn't had children in a long
time. he hasn't had children and
>> uh he started going to the kaver and he
was helped and then he said like every
few years whenever he needed a child
that's one of the first times yeah
>> he also said earlier that an interesting
anecdote that someone said that because
uh he was the one and only chief rabbi
in New York people in construction go a
lot to him if they have issues with
government agencies because their
attitude is you're still the chief
forever in New York. Go do your thing.
>> Go be go be my liaison. You know people,
you know, see wonderful things. So
>> yeah. And and as you mentioned the was a
he thought
he thought very highly of him.
So, and um I guess to um to end off here
um I know that that we have uh can you
tell us a little bit more about um about
the fararm about the books that we have
over here?
>> Yeah. So this is the I believe the one
and only cipher uh the this is this is
his his um his
>> and this was published by my brother
Rebul published this just now for the
youth. It hasn't been it hasn't been in
print I believe for over 20 years.
>> Okay. I just want to show it on the
screen over here. We got it over here.
It's called Leakov
>> over here.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. And then we also have over
here we have
>> Thanks
>> Rava. So this is
>> this is about the
>> yes this is the
>> this one.
>> So my father has written many books uh
mostly around
Yiddish history in America.
>> Um this particular he has a series of
books on the rabbit co. So this
particular is in Yiddish, but there it's
also there's one in
>> English.
>> One is English and there's one in
>> this was this was is in Hebrew.
>> This one is in Hebrew.
>> Beautiful. And so so we have the the art
site of course is is coming up. Uh the
the English date, of course, people come
during the day on Thursday, July 9th,
from 8:00 a.m. till 7 till 7:00 p.m. And
the the the Kev is at 7211 Cypress
Avenue in Ridgewood, New York 1385. And
um of course, people can um if they if
they want one of these amazing books,
they they can they can text 917-6233715.
Um and of course if they of course um be
a big to be to be part of the a vod of
of of of be connected to of course reach
out you can of course make a a
dedication um make make a donation over
there of course reach out for um to be
part of it at the same phone number
3715. Do you want to can you leave us
off with a a final message about about
the rough?
>> Sure. Everybody's know all
he was very very close with
very he was from what you mean he was
the biggest rabbis in in
>> my my father used used to say that if
you know people like to go to Kudam all
over the world which is beautiful it's
nice we should
>> but this is right here in our backyard
uh it it'd be wise to you know take the
opportunity
I was in
the hol
and the people was crying so much
trouble
in you come home to the United States
you're going to find a big chic not have
to go with the plane and left the whole
family here in Hind they give
Yeah. So,
>> yeah. So, so like I said, it's it's been
said a couple a bunch of times growing
up, you know, as you have something
local, you should
>> Why you have to go
>> Why do you have to Why do you have to
pass on on your way to the airport when
you're literally you're passing the
camera? Go to the camera. You have you
show us some
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go here in
I went about a big family. We went to
the
snow
old country
there
see
terrible but I as somebody what was
possible
my father and my mother they they
separated and nobody cared for me
some is the father go to the mother the
mother go to the He was like Hefkar
he go to the plane when he used to
travel to Europe to the
used to see that a lot of single guys
there you know crying forum
>> and he felt bad because you know nobody
used to take care of them and they
didn't have anyone you know to you know
so he told them that you know instead of
coming once a year to go to Nikkai
there's come here locally believe that
somewhere you can go every
>> Yeah.
>> Every doesn't have to be a once a year
thing. They go they're able to go
overseas. You have it in in your neck of
the woods. So So take advantage of of
and and the dab in there of course
or how often we can weekend. I was
remember
also
but closes
the closet the old
everybody
Yeah. He is saying that famously the you
know the had the yeshiva closed when the
who was it.
So the should be able to go to the
left.
Then the other rabbi was make them
estatis
and they went to the
rebels was
I have to leave.
>> Okay.
>> So, so we we see the power. Thank you so
much for joining us and we should be a
big aliyah for
we should of course take advantage and
of course by the we should see of only
good things.