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LIGHT TO UNITE | Rabbi Paysach Krohn, Eli Goldbaum, Tuvia Sablosky | CHAZAQ
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good evening everybody Welcome to our
light to unite
launch this is a new program that we're
putting together starting tonight we're
going to have four podcast over the next
several weeks leading up to September
29th which will be the official lighting
of the unification of all Jews in
America so we're starting out by
educating having different speakers come
from the rep Community from the business
Community two speakers next several
Sunday nights and then the objective is
that on Sunday September 29th 2 o'clock
in New York 9:00 in yelam we will be
having as many Jews as possible
observant Jews non-observant Jews
Affiliated not to join together to light
and unite together so that we can fight
here in America and around the world
against anti-Semitism and all the
challenges that we have facing us so
gives me great pleasure to introduce our
two speakers tonight Rabbi pesak cron
Ellie goldbam and just a little bit
about myself for a minute my name is
tuvia Sosi I was born raised and
educated in Philadelphia I grew up as an
ultra secular Jew I grew up as an
American Jew I was proud to be an
American to be Jewish but I fought with
a lot of kids had a lot of anti-Semitism
because I went to a Christian Prep
School from the time I was 5 years old
it wasn't until I was 50 years old when
my mom had passed away way that date
brought me to meet rabbits and young
rice and my world changed that evening I
read a book she wrote called the Jewish
Solem fire and that's who I am following
in her footsteps so this is really an
honor to her also and may her children
continue with all of us to continue with
our mission of
Hanan um I also have many stories with
Rabbi pesak cron when I have my proper
bris because I didn't have one I was
circumcised in the hospital through
Rabbi yosher young rice we have bris and
got toil and got my Hebrew name tuvia
which rabbitson young race named me
tuvia and she told me when you get your
toil and you get your bris that's the
name you have to be so gives me great
pleasure to be able to collaborate again
with Rabbi pesak cron with Ellie gobam
and Rabbi please join us I'm deeply
grateful to my dear friend Ria
sablowski for having invited me to come
to speak to all of you on this very
important topic of containing
anti-semitism
and assimilation here in America and
throughout the world the name of the
program is light to unite and the
Inspire program and the kazak people are
also involved in putting together This
Magnificent program I'm honored to speak
with Elie goldbam as well and hopefully
we'll be able to be inspired together I
would like to begin by telling you a
story that shook me to the core because
when it happened it happened at such an
unexpected time I give all of you that
are watching the broa that you should be
able to sit with children and
grandchildren at your Seda table a
number of years ago this goes back more
than 20 years I was sitting at a SATA
table I was leading the table for my
children and some of my grandchildren
and at that time my little grandson of
Rome was three or four years old and you
know that a three or four year-old can't
follow the Satan he's running from the
living room to the kitchen to the dining
room and just as we were about to say
visha one of the most beautiful parts of
the Seder my grandson comes over to me
and he says zie can I sit on your lap
and of course anybody who's a z or a
Bubby and when a child a grandchild
wants to sit on your lap of course
what's a question so I picked up the cup
of wine with my right hand that picked
up my little boy my grandson of ramzel
on my left lap and we began singing
Vish it's so emotional to me every time
I tell tell the story as we're singing V
all of a sudden I started
crying and people were wondering what is
he crying about I mean this is such a
happy moment of the Sedar you know when
you're crying and you don't want to cry
it it's just gets so hard to
stop and the reason that I was crying is
because I was saying these words the
tells
us not only one nation is trying to get
rid of us
and every generation they're trying to
get rid of us and I was
thinking what's the future of this kid
what's the future of all the children in
his generation haven't we gone through
enough we lost 6 million we've lost tens
of thousands of Israeli soldiers doesn't
it stop when does it end and that's the
reason that I was crying of course we
finish
sing and we went on with the S there and
I was able to compose myself but as I
Was preparing for this talk it occurred
to me when does it stop does it ever
stop will it stop the terrible
anti-Semitism that in every generation
they're trying to get rid of us and I
want to tell you something frightening a
very sobering gamar the gor tells us in
shabas my
why was it called har sini the mountain
of sini and there are many many
different answers I think the most
frightening answer
is hatred came down to this world sini
and sin sound the same and that's what
the gumar is telling us once the Jews
got the T there was a hatred that came
down to the world and it's interesting
if you watch what Rashi says
Rashi doesn't say that the hatred came
because we were M the T because we
accepted the tah he writes the reason
why the sin
happened didn't accept the and when they
realize what Jews are all about that we
are people of a higher morality people
of higher ethics people of higher
standard that live with a person with a
purpose that's why they hated us
they didn't want that and they hate
people who live that way because they
know that's really how they supposed to
live and because of that that hatred is
ingrained in the Gentiles it's in it's
ingrained in the nations of the world
because they know that we live on a
higher standard that they are supposed
to live but they didn't want to live
after all we all know theal offer the
ter to all of them they didn't want it
some wanted to kill some wanted to Rob
some wanted to be immoral but the Jews
accepted it they didn't and that's what
makes them hate us now I'll tell you an
amazing Rashi if you take a look at it
in it tells us
in when and yov meet Rashi
tells
says it's a it's a fact of life it's
known
as hates Yakov and you know what that
means that that's how it's going to be
forever until mesiah comes and the
question is are we able to do something
about it now all of us who live here in
New York know that the New York Times
used to be a great newspaper but of
course they're very much anti-jewish and
anti-israel but every once in a while
they'll have a writer who writes
something
pro-israel and just yesterday from when
I'm making this video there was an
article by a fellow Brett Stevens and he
wrote about Israel and he wrote about
Jews and he had a remarkable sentence
that I would like to quote hatred of
Jews will always find a convenient
explanation or excuse it's always going
to be there and so I want to share with
you something that I think is very
profound there's a wonderful T in our
generation today his name is RAB leipa
gorth he's a great thinker and a great
speaker and a
great and he mentioned something very
interesting that there are two elements
of
anti-Semitism one element of
anti-Semitism is existential existential
means they don't want us to exist like
Iran talks today about Israel they won't
be happy until Israel doesn't exist and
I'm telling you we cannot fight that
that's the
anti-Semitism which we can do nothing
about because it came down from
SII there's a different type of
negativism that there is a contempt or
hostility and that is
distaste go nations of the world have a
distaste for Jews that we can fight and
this talk that I'm about to explain to
you this fight
anti-Semitism we're never going to stop
it we can't until Mia comes
that's that's the existential hatred
they don't want us to exist and thank
goodness hasem a million times over we
live in a great country of America and
many of you who will be watching in
Canada and in England and in Switzerland
and some of these places also the
anti-Semitism is not existential like it
is in the Muslim countries it's dislike
oh dislike that we can fight there are
many many people of the nations of the
world who dislike us and some of it is
our fault and that we have to be careful
about and I'm going to give an example
do you know that there is a PK that the
cayar expounds on and the PK is in V Bay
pimo the PK is telling us that Hashem
says to mosenu go up north you've been
at the Mount Si for a while now it's
time to travel North it
says you've been around this this
mountain a
while go north but the says something
brilliant and every time I go to Prague
and he was the RO in the moral sh after
the moral I tell over this cokar he says
the word SAA comes from the word s which
means hidden and he says keep a low
profile you don't want the go him to
hate you don't build the most gorgeous
home you want to build build inside your
house don't build outside your house
where the jealous and he writes like
this if you have a certain H don't buy
the fanciest car so that the go on the
block are going to be jealous of you
don't talk about all your great
successes if you're in a workplace where
there are Gentiles there and everything
that's going on and gring life that
you're able to take all the vacations
keep a low profile but then the claya
says that's not the nature of Jews and
he says you know what happens first of
all the reason that the go hate us is
because they feel we stole the bras yob
stole the bras from is but then he
writes this is the opposite said
that when we live in the nations in the
countries of our
enemies any Jew that has 100
he's got to dress beyond what he could
afford and he's got to make weddings
beyond what he could
afford Kam Alpa he's trying to show as
if he has thousands keep a low profile
don't let the go speak about you my
mother used to
say don't rip out the eyes of other
people that's the first way to combat
that anti-Semitism which we can combat
the dislike but not flaunting get keep a
low profile that's the first thing and
I'll tell you a fabulous story that
Rabbi friend once told and what a
fabulous lesson Rabbi FR once told a
story about a fellow from Manhattan that
came to visit the brisker of revela
salvic in the early
1950s now we know the salvic have genius
memories they don't forget anything and
in the conversation brael brusa asked
this gentleman what do you do
and he said Reby I'm a lawyer in
Manhattan and the conversation continued
and 5 minutes later again the brisker of
asked the gentleman what do you do the
guy was surprised he just said what he
did he said he was a man a lawyer
Manhattan he said rebi I'm a lawyer in
Manhattan he says I know you told me
that five minutes ago but that's not how
a yid answers that question the guy was
surprised he realized that the brisar
had set him up and the brov said bring
me down a y the prophet y from the shelf
and he showed him something remarkable
what a great lesson and we read this
every every young Kipper we all know the
story about y y was on a boat and there
was a tremendous storm but the storm was
only around the boat it wasn't around
the other boats out in the sea so
everybody the captains and the sailors
knew that there was somebody on this
boat that was causing this terrible
thing to happen that it was going to
sink and so they went to every person
and then it says that the sailors and
the captains they came over to yah and
they said tell
us why is this happening and listen what
they said to
him what do you
do what do you do and listen to his
answer that was a question the brisar
was asking this gentleman you know what
he
said he said to
them I am
and I fear hasem now watch what the rad
says thead says as soon as he
said I Fear
God that was the
answer what do you do you're not a
lawyer you're not a doctor you're not a
graphic artist you're not a real estate
agent you're a yid that's how you bring
in money but what defines you m you're
were Y and you know something but my
friend told an amazing thing he said two
weeks after he gave that sheer a stock
broker wrote him a note and he said you
know I heard your shear and you know I'm
on the phone a whole time a whole day
making all kinds of deals and sometimes
I do things that are not 100% And I say
things on the phone so I had a paper
weight made and I keep it on my desk and
on my desk that paper we has two words
on it
every I am at you and you know something
that's the second way to combat
anti-Semitism of dislike just remember
you can't hide it wherever you go snood
or no snood baseball cap wearing it
frontwards or backwards a kangaroo cap
however you go shael no shle big yamaka
small yamaka no yamaka you can't hide it
oh if you're a Jew then you got to be
careful how you talk to that bank tell
teller you got to be careful how you
talk to that waiter or waitress in the
restaurant you got to be careful how you
talk to that studa stus on the plane
they know you're Jewish and if you act
with kindness and with dignity they're
going to say all Jews act like that but
if for shom you say something nasty I
mean Heaven help you if it somebody
filmed it then it goes viral we're not
even talking about that but you're
giving incentive to nations of the world
to hate you if you're nasty so the first
thing is keep a low profile second thing
is just remember every and you have to
act in that way and there's one more
thing we have to remember that we're in
gas and you know something it's very
hard to remember that in
America a million times over we live
in but don't we say every
day that our eyes should see when you
return your glory
toes we are gu in America you know what
raban said then I am very careful with
this I heard this many years ago raban
said a year should not wear his Talus
over his jacket or coat on chavas in the
street now if you're in Monroe or you're
in square town that's fine but even if
you're in mon or in Lakewood or even in
Williamsburg the policemen are going the
firemen are
going the cops are go him so you don't
own this place it's flaun them it
bothers them it looks as if you own the
place and that's what ran said keep a
low profile you could be proud that
you're a Jew but don't flaunt it keep a
low profile be kind and dignified and
don't flaunt your yish kite and I
believe you know that this leads us into
the
conversation of making sure that there's
no assimilation you know there a Yiddish
expression and I'm going to say it in
Yiddish and and I'm going to
translate if a doesn't make Kish he
doesn't sanctify himself but he tries to
be like the go then then the go are
going to make they're going to make a
separation in other words many times we
think well we'll just be like them right
that's what they thought in Germany
they're going to be just like the goam
right business finances everything and
look what happened the hatred came out
and that's what happened Lithuania as
well I was in Lithuania I was in the
house where Rabel Kono was taken from
and the lithuanians for years they got
along with the Jews did business and
everything but once the Germans came and
opened up the torrent of hatred and
killing the lithuanians were worse than
the go than the Nazis you know rebbit
and R cter she was in that house and
panu and that house in kova where where
RAB was taken from and she told me that
there was a German guard and a
Lithuanian guard and the German guard
looked atan and saw his beautiful face I
saw the Holiness in his face he said let
him go and the Lithuanian said no we
can't and it was the Lithuanian who
kidnapped him and they took him to that
Fort seven where he was killed you can't
trust any of them we have to make
kiddish we have to be separate and you
know what Hashem says if you take a look
in Rashi and kadim it's absolutely
frightening
rash says on
the be holy to me and rash
says if you're going to separate from
the you won't dress like them you won't
act like them you won't talk like them
you won't be like them
then then you're my people but oh
then we have to be sure that our
children know that we are proud to look
like yiden and we dress like yiden we
don't use the slang of the go we don't
use the music of the go we don't dance
like the goam look I don't want to say
this but you've got to say it at some of
the weddings you see some of the dances
you kind of Wonder are these these
Jewish dances where in the world they
get these dances from you dance like a
go you know what happens Hashem says
you're not going to dance like a goo
you're not my people that's not my kind
of dancing that's not my kind of music
we have to be very careful with that we
have to be molan and I'll tell you what
billum said billum said about to ju
something and it's
in this is a nation that's going to live
alone the they're not going to reckon
with them and you know what the says he
has a brilliant on this he says like
this if the Jews will live separately
and not act like the and be among the
they're going to live in
peace but if they want to be with
the it's not going to happen at the end
they're going to hate you at the end
they will not recognize you and you know
something they'll be alone the says
that's
that's what's going to happen in a time
of Messiah if we want Messiah we have to
be
separate that's part of fighting
anti-Semitism and fighting assimilation
I just want to end just with this thing
I remember I once asked
Raa the author Al I said you know I have
the opportunity to speak to parents what
should I tell them what should they do
for their children and he said something
so brilliant he said tell them they
going to give two two things to their
children time and
love and my son was there and he said
rebi how much time he was in the Cur
maybe he was worried how much time he's
going to have to give his kids and you
know what revola said as much as they
need and you know something that's the
great answer if you validate your
children and you make them feel special
they're going to follow you and then
there's going to be no
assimilation now we're not going get to
go out and most of us are not in curo
not going to change the world but we
change our families how do we change our
families by having a happy home when you
have a good marriage and we have a
marriage counselor here who's part of
excellance he'll tell you better than me
when you have a happy home and happy
children then the children are going to
follow there's going to be no
assimilation but if you're always
beating down on the kids and you're
always criticizing you know what M said
those kids are not dropouts they push
outs we can fight assimilation in our
families that's what we have to do and
it spreads from there we're not going to
be able to change the world now of
course you have great organizations like
a and or and Jeff that's great and we
should try to be mov even our neighbors
our second and third cousins and our
employees employers all of them as much
as we can but where we can focus on
breaking a similar is making sure that
our children and grandchildren are so
proud of being
hidden when you go to buy a l and an
esri or you're building a Suka make sure
the kids are there make sure they see
how much you love a Mitzvah make sure
that they see how you love a rebi I
always say every family has to have a
love a rebi and a rashash Shiva and when
you look up to that person and you
really follow that person the kids will
learn from that there's going to be no
assimilation
whatsoever because they know what your
standards
are I just want to end with this we
Sayes
us Hashem wants us and loves us and if
we can only bring that to our children
and tell them how we are the chosen
people not only for the rest of Eden but
for the rest of the world and we Elevate
that if that's the case I believe that
we no assimilation whatsoever Hashem
should bench every single one of us
that's listening all around the world
let us try to be the best that we can be
again we're never going to stop
anti-Semitism that existential hatred
that they have for us that's hashem's
job but the dis like that we can change
the assimilation that we can change in
our families we hope and pray that we'll
be mat thank you for inviting me and
thank you for listening Rabbi KW thank
you my pleasure that was amazing
inspirational and I do want to share
that that the you and I had the
opportunity to go to Ukraine together
that's right back in
2017 amazing trip you had my
great-grandfather came from Ukraine from
Kiev back in the late 1880s to
Philadelphia
total assimilation I'm the only
observant to in my family and that trip
was phenomenal when I got back from that
trip we went we found my
great-grandfather who was buried and
when we found him my wife said pull out
all the grass it was very hard to find
and it turned out that one of the
reasons we went to Ukraine especially
for my wife was she wanted to go to the
Kev of Rabbi
leich so when we pull back the grass
that that this Cemetery had not been
planted or taken care of in years my
started to cry I said why are you crying
she goes you know I always cry she goes
your great-grandfather's yard site is
this Sunday this Sunday we're there on
Tuesday and Rabbi pich's yard site is
this
Sunday also sharing with your
great-grandfather it's my birthday and
Rabbi holsberg who's our first my first
Rabbi when I moved to Brooklyn so Rabbi
that was an amazing trip with you sure
was it was and I don't think we'll ever
go back and have that kind of trip again
because that Destro and talk about some
of the biggest anti-semites the Ukraine
what they've done to the Jews the blood
on our country is is really pretty crazy
so thank you it gives me great pleasure
to introduce my dear friend uh Ellie
goam Reb go re goldbam who uh I met
coincidentally when I went to start
doing at the bostoner scho in Flatbush
and I was going there for the Mikvah but
my wife said why don't you go there and
start to dobin there also so when I went
there the first time I went Ellie gave
me hgba I always love doing hgba and I
said before you give it to me can I give
you a bua I give bras to Jewish men
because of Rabbi hburg I've been doing
this for over eight years almost every
day except during Co and uh he said well
my my daughter's getting married next
week I'd love to have a bua for for my
daughter and for myself I said that's
great I said my my rabbi's son's getting
married next week who's your Rabbi said
Rabbi yosher he said my daughter is
marrying your son his son
so from that moment on he started just
took me under his wing and has been uh
taking very good care of me and a little
more in three and a half years ago Ellie
invited me to come with him to the do
seum at metti Stadium oh and it was
phenomenal I'd gone seven years before
but this time when I got back my wife
said well I think you're actually ready
to start learning the dove oh so because
of Ellie I'm still in the game learning
the dff every day so Ellie thank you and
and Ellie has a very interesting
background because he's very involved in
the philanthropic side and saving Jewish
lives but he's also a major leader in
the healthc care uh and taking care of
different uh people in in retirement
homes and and different facilities and
uh he's made quite a reputation for
himself and the purpose of this event
this night and going forward is that we
have very strong representation from the
vehicle side but we also have very
strong representation from very powerful
Jewish businessmen so Ellie thank you TI
thank you for joining us amazing it's
such an honor to be sitting here
together to of you my friend and close
you did and of course we grown to sit at
the same table to speak it's it's a
tremendous honor for me I was listening
to RAB cron speak and again I'm blown
away as always uh with RAB the way you
speak it's just a tremendous inspiration
for cl for for us uh I have so many
thoughts based on the way what you have
said but I'm going to just jump on the
last thought and maybe we'll go back and
try to remind ourselves of you know as
you always do you AP so beautifully so
we'll recap and remind me of my thoughts
but just on the last thing that you
spoke on
the and I think we had spoken a little
before about what uh the idea of what
we're trying to accomplish here today I
think that the we're trying to build a
positive thought in clell to try to
generate from from within an
appreciation and enjoyment of what what
we are we
we're I I actually quite often if he ask
this question to people they could beish
Lish any anywhere in the game and I
would say to them why are you from and
most people cannot answer that question
and if that's this if that's the reality
I think it's sad because you know toia
joined us in in the bust M to you
mentioned I've been the gab for the last
25 years and the re was n a year ago but
I was extremely extremely close to him
you know people don't understand what
RAB go through and unless you're in the
in the world of in the sphere of the
Rabon and they really spend a tremendous
amount of time and they also need
somebody to bounce things off of their
human beings and like to speak to
everyone I was very fortunate to have
had a tremendous CER with the rebel but
we have it's not for everybody but in
our medish and it's something that you
touched on that I think is so incredibly
important the idea that we enjoy going
to daving our the with the singing the
amount of song that we have in the
repertoire of the BST nunam not only BST
but other nunam it's an enjoyment and it
it our children were brought up in such
a place where there was a g for and what
what that's exactly what you mentioned
and it's so true if people used to ask I
walk about 15 minutes to sh and people
say you know there's so many shes along
the way why do you walk so far of course
I always joke CU I get covered for
walking there cuz I'm the G but putting
that on the side I really enjoy the ding
there enjoy
the but more importantly
there always spoke
about we are we are every single y he
would sit and give sh before the Y to
make us excited with the Y by us is 25
minutes sometimes even longer every
piece you're seeing and it's a Gish and
it's not something that's you feel like
you you know it's dragging you down like
let's get what time can we get out of
here it's like aack it's enjoyment
should this on a regular shabas my
family knows I come home a half hour
after 72 sometimes a little earlier
sometimes a little after but the point
is it's a g you're sitting around you
feel good when your children are brought
up that that yish is a g of course
they're going to feel great about GES if
you feel that everything is a Dr oh
shabas when is it over I can't wait to
get to see my phone that that that takes
away so just to to piggyback on what you
said right before I think it's
phenomenal I I think the that a question
something that we we should definitely
think about um I'm going to go into some
other thoughts you mentioned Ukraine so
I think that this is an incredibly
important I'm not the Storyteller here
today but I'll try to say a nice story
my mother and you know I'm a businessman
that's why do you ask me to be here
today so I want to just give over a
little of my in business and I think
it's incredibly important to the topic
of ation We Have Tonight Vis
anti-Semitism my grand my mother was
born everyone knows this ma if you're
listening I apologize but everyone knows
her birthday she was born in March of
1944 in a unar which was really which is
in Ukraine at that point it was called
cze Slovakia what was the birthday March
28th
1944 and she was born 3 weeks before the
Nazis came came in and took everyone
away to ashz anyone who has any history
on on Hungarian jury knows that in six
months time from March till October they
wiped out a million Hungarian Jews any
child was gone the first thing you went
to anyone who had a child going to
concentration camps they were wiped out
there was no there was no one no one
remaining so at the time they thought
and my grandfathers say we thought this
was like a curse we had a child
everyone else went into hiding because
they knew the Americans were about 200
km away and they figured that the
Americans are to come and they going to
get we're going to all be free and
liberated and everything is going to be
fine the Americans did not move for
those six months and that's why
Hungarian jewry for the most part the
has been you know wiped out obviously
there are a lot of re young R is one who
survived Hungary but there the basically
there were certain age groups that were
able to work and other than that
everyone older younger wiped out so my
grandparents had a baby the entire
family went into hiding because they had
a baby they went and they got false
papers and they lived as G and just in
as side my grandfather us to say if you
think it's difficult to live as a Jew
it's much more difficult to live as a go
when you're Jewish he said he would go
around and he would have to see
literally it took C Tyra if you're
talking about pain and to cry you when
you even say something like this he
would see that they use the
as lampshades or whatnot and he would
have to make believe it didn't bother
him so he didn't give up his cover but
more importantly and this is I think is
you know the importance of understanding
what we're trying to get to here talk
about anti-Semitism you're talking about
in the this small stle in a sense it
wasn't like in America you over there
everyone knew each other it was a small
town so even if you go to the next town
as Rob cron said before you could dress
up with any cap you want they know
you're Jewish and here he he had to look
like a guy my grandmother had to look
like guy the baby was a baby um just in
the side it was one cousin as shov I
don't know as shov was a half year older
than my mother and it fits very nicely
into the story there was a Gala that was
like the mayor of the town he was very
close to my mother's my grandmother's
father and my grand they had apparently
had money or some business or whatnot
before and he gave this Gala a lot of
money and this Gala gave my grandfather
money throughout the war so he was able
to pay off the places that he was living
and at the same time he took us gave him
to a doctor and this doctor watch was a
half year old and his parents actually
went to alitz and survived separately
and came back eventually but because my
grandfather kept an eye on him took a
while they weren't ready to give him
back but he ended up getting him back
and that's how he actually survived with
his family intact but even that the
thought that some guy gave the you gave
him all the money he didn't have to give
anything and I think that that's a very
important point that I'm trying to bring
out the concept and of course I'll go
back to the story in a second but the
concept of how you treat people and when
you treat people properly it could save
your life forget about anything else but
I could assure you they Tre they treated
this guyy with the AL alterous ECT or he
would never have given a
dollar and risk his life and it actually
came up in the newspaper ones that they
found that this doctor was Finding Usher
and they actually did not that that's my
understanding and my recollection of my
grandfather told us and they didn't give
and they didn't have a problem which was
a Pell but going back to my grandparents
so they lived as G in Ukraine and here
you have they were going place to place
and like I said you know you could try
to hide it as much as you can but
everyone knows who you are it's like if
as much as you can you live like a guy
and they managed they were fine and my
grandfather told us several stories that
I think could also bring out this point
he he set over a story that he was one
time walking and he sees a person who
used to work for them they had a big
business in in in in Ukraine and they
this person was like he said oh my
goodness this guy I think he was the
truck driver and mind you maybe two
trucks he recognized him he worked with
him so he started running away and all
of a sudden the guy was on a motorcycle
and it didn't take long for him to catch
him and he goes ahead and he says Mr D
that was my grandfather's name Mr D why
are you running away from me what do you
need I'll give you anything you need I'm
going to help you he took out my
grandfather said a tremendous amount of
money from his pocket and Mr D take what
you
need it's my
boggling that's one story he said over
he said over another story that he at
some point he got a job working in a in
a factory I used to kibbit about it was
you know like he said the first thing
they did to inaugurate you this is a g
way they went out to the pub to drink
and he says I can't drink if I'm going
to drink I'm afraid I'm going to blow my
cover so he couldn't drink so they made
fun that he drank like a Jew that's
theci side but putting that aside one
day there was a auditor that he used to
sit in the business literally working
alongside with him who came in to order
the books so he said I saw the guy if he
knows who I am I used to sit with him so
he ran into the bathroom he spent a
little time he said I couldn't sit there
all day and eventually he came out and
he he thought that said it's over like
you said anyone they gave you in they
they killed you finished if you didn't
give them up they killed him he ran home
that night he said he didn't even go
home he stayed in the park all night he
thought for sure they're going to come
pick him up at the morning he figured if
I don't go back to the office they going
to they're going to get me anyway and he
goes back to the office and the owner
calls him in and says tell me what's
your name so so he knew that they blew
his cup and he told him what his name
was his real name and he says I want you
to know that this order told me tell Mr
as long as he's here he has nothing to
worry about oh he's not going to give
he's not going to send him and he won't
say a word and he said after that this
owner of the business took better care
of him than anybody else he so
appreciated him what's my point of all
this they were all nice stories and of
course it's tremendous and I I love
talking to about my grandfather cuz he
was my everything in life he taught me a
tremendous amount Basham he was he had a
nice businesses here I worked for him
quite when I started in the
business he was such a gentleman he
didn't chumy up with his
stiff but he was everyone respected him
there was a respect he was just a a type
of person that when he spoke to his
employees and I try very hard I have a
very busy office with a lot of not from
people not from like G that work for me
of all types I never raise my voice ever
I never get even if I have to say
something to somebody I learned from my
grandfather there's a way to give it
over when you blow your gasket people
just you know it's a busy day you can
say something lose respect this week's
par the Duram first thing words come out
of your mouth words mean something you
go ahead you blow it besides the that we
talked you talked about which is a
tremendous problem but when you when you
speak nicely to them they respect us
they respect us tremendously and I see
this in business I guess that's my job
here to talk on the business level I see
it in the business when you deal with
your employees respectfully you get them
back and what I learned from my from my
grandfather is it saved his life and in
a sense I'm here because of that and if
that's something that I could back said
this is this is something it's
incredibly important so that was that
was just a an interesting thought that
that I felt as far as business is
concerned of something we could learn
from what I did with my children I B
five children is that every week I gave
each of the children 20 to 25 minutes
undivided attention I me it was when
they were growing up there were no cell
phones but you want to go for pizza
we'll go for pizza you want to go
bowling we'll go bowling you want to
learn Ezra we'll learn
it's just me and you nobody else you
want to do exercise and how many fathers
have a real conversation with their sons
how many mothers know their daughter's
best friends or of colors but when you
have a real conversation not how was
school fine what' you get right what'
you get wrong that's not a conversation
but then your child becomes your friend
and then they want to be like you and
see for that which you believe in you
know they're going to believe it it's
interesting point you saying because I
actually did a video a while ago
talking about these exact points that a
question they said you we we were
dealing onom bias how do you build up
Shalom how do you do you know to make it
a positive experience and they say how
do I know a lot of the work that I end
up doing is mediating divorces which we
try to stick away from but in the in the
Shalom Bas arena is that you want your
children to know what a house should be
in the future you have to show them in
your house what it's like and when
you're the role model and they know what
a he home is they're going to have a
much better chance in the future 100%
but I think one of the other topics that
you spoke about was the affluence of the
community right and and that's something
that that I really find you know my
grandfather would talk about that as
well to keep a low profile I have to
love
that but did you know that claya I did
not I heard it from you before I forgot
it I'm going to be honest but mind
appreciate it yeah but but but I I do
find that you know that that is
something that you know people to me
that there's several Concepts that I
that I I see what do you say about rabak
not wearing the
Talis we talk about I used to D with him
every every morning when he was by his
son R oh I'm an old flaish guy we
actually lived right next to your
brother so we lived on East 10th andm
and RAB RAB land had one million shakas
if people even remember that 7:30 sit
down with us every morning and I one
time I had the go he ask him give me a
yeah he say I said okay that's a good
bro I can handle that I was very close
with his grandson it was at his mitzah
but uh there there's no question about
it the the we are you know we we I'll
give you a simple example of what I
speak about as a businessman I remember
when I started my business 1991 is when
I started my business I was working
previously in a nursing home as a
controller I don't remember I was
$80,000 $100,000 a year was a very nice
salary but from people I can have five
children as well from people I have to
live in a my house can't be the size of
the House of the of the guy who's a
non-jew who has one child or two dogs
whatever he has so we automatically have
to have larger houses which is the
challenge really to what you were
talking about you know so we say we
shouldn't poke the guys guys out eyes
out but the reality is we need bigger
houses we have a standard of living that
is Way Beyond the GU standard of living
so I remember one of my first consultant
I have a consulting company one of the
first jobs was I went to a a nursing
home and they had it was a non
for-profit they had two G working there
that were sort of like a similar type of
a job and they were telling them they
were living the life they were making
$100,000 in those days it was a
tremendous amount of money and they had
everything they needed and I was trying
to explain to them I started my business
and took a risk and it was a huge risk I
gave up salary to go ahead and try to
earn more money was something at that
point there were no such Consulting
businesses and I say thank you Hashem
you know where I am today but it took
years to build that up and I exp them
I'm taking risk because I have to pay
tuitions I have to pay I have to koser
food mat mat said my wife just took my
grandchildren for for shoes How many
pairs of shoes do we need we need a shab
shoe a weekday shoe twice a season a go
buys a pairs of sneaker they're good to
go it's the there's no shabas food
there's no there's no y we all know the
expenses and you know I think that
there's there's there is a piece that
I'd like to talk about that I think is
I'd love to hear what what you would
sayone on this and to you feel free to
jump in anytime you want as well I deal
with a lot of uh issues mediating not
only divorce uh unfortunately business
mediation and and uh family issues my
business is more healthcare related one
of the things we do is we help people
deal with finances we we don't deal with
it directly we work with we deal more
Medicaid pieces but the idea I get
involved a lot of people's family issues
or whatnot and I find I know just to me
personally there's certain things that I
think as a CRA that we could work on
that's and I'm curious to hear your
thoughts on it I I find that there I was
asking around what do we think the nuda
of anti-i semitism is what's the what is
what is the point why do go have we
understand ASA asov but what is there's
something that that I believe it's more
than that they still have to make it
into a what we believe is a regular
thing why do I hate you right there's
something
underneath my thought jealousy jealousy
you took the word out of my mouth
jealousy so no question I I think that
you know what you spoke about and that's
why I wanted a piggy bag on it the
jealousy of that that they have for us
is somewhat inherent in the sense that
as I just explained we have to have a
greater lifestyle we have to have larger
houses because we can't live in a small
two-bedroom apartment they can so we're
going to have larger houses we're going
to have a a a a more affluent lifestyle
if for those that could afford it
because we're taking more risk to earn
additional income and some some there a
lot of very successful people
unfortunately even in hour
Society there people are not successful
so we have this concept of in my opinion
I see this a lot of jealousy within the
society within our people and what I
find is you mean even from
y family issues and and there's so many
to me that's what I've seen as a common
core issue that I think it's something
that I speak about often I like I wish
we could obviously this is something
inherent as well in our DNA but to just
bringing it to the four and I'd love to
hear you speak about your thoughts I do
think that you know when a parent hasas
I always say if something good happens
to you in your life don't tell it to
anyone there's only one person that you
can tell it to that will be guaranteed
to be happy and that's your mother but
otherwise even Brothers inlaw and
sisters inlaw can be jealous I've seen
in so many families where one sister
married into a wealthy family and the
other sister never they don't have close
to wear nice clothes at a wedding and
it's very embarrassing so they have to
be sensitive to that so these are the
type of Concepts that I think I not to
talk about everything that's good just
to keep a low profile and just not to
talk about it just to thank hasem and
don't make any big suit nobody cares you
know unless somebody had an operation
but otherwise somebody buys a new house
don't don't make a about it nobody cares
just going to be looking at your winter
Shades in your kitchen wondering why
they can't have it yes that's that's
part of the inner happiness that if
people were inwardly happy right you
know and it's difficult to I actually
had a sh recently yeah and you know it
was a very close friend of ours they
asked me to speak I I just I this is my
vert I don't know curious you thought so
you know he say the mission brings down
you should try to acquire a friend
right it doesn't say
yeah again this just my ver I that's
very good I I just came from the there's
800 people in the and I turned to the
crowd I said how many people have 800
friends I said I believe we have 800
acquaintances that's right right so what
when it says
can I have to try to get one and if I
acire one in my life
tremendous so how do I acire what's
what's called
a at the sh what I said was that there's
certain things that I wouldn't tell the
general public secret if I could trust
somebody that I could tell them a secret
that they're not going to betray me
right that I believe is what you call a
friend and if you acquire one that's
phenomenal they won't look down at they
won't look that's correct so and and
that person will forgin you right and
that concept that that I I just feel
that I think that it's so important to
talk about this concept I see it so much
of family issues certainly divorces G
you talk about all this thing the the
jealousy factor I think is is is
tremendous a tremendous problem but as
we said many people bring it on
themselves and they don't have to and
and that's why I'm happy with speaking
about it because I'm piggybacking on
what you said yeah no I think so I think
it's very
important and that's what happens when
you focus on material things as opposed
to focusing on the spiritual and serving
Hashem
and why are we really here we're here to
serve Hashem and what does he want us to
do I'm coming back to the why we're all
here today he wants us to unite he wants
us to unite as Jews as fellow Jews and
for the observant Jews which are
fractured to come together for different
organizations to come together in this
process between now and September 29th
very observant not so observant
different organizations everything's
fragmented and once we can put it
together ourselves then the
non-observant Jews will really
appreciate what we're doing because
they'll see what we're doing and really
enjoy it and that's all we can really do
that's how we fight anti-Semitism is by
being Jewish see there's something
thatav K always stresses you
know and um many times we talk about you
know people that are from not having
regard for people that are not from and
he said the truth is that they're all
you can't blame them they never had
reame they never had Parents they never
had ancestors so you're living a life
and you blaming them and you don't like
them because they they never had that
opportunity they may be more ker Eden
than you are you know and that that's a
way to look at it so I'm going to jump
in on that so I happen to have bjx
started in my office oh no kidding I'm
very close to my finger and I I
understand very well the the concept
they very good those brothers and and
basically when it started what was the
concept and I think it also talks to
what you just said to you we have so
many people in our neighborhood you know
it's very nice we're supporting all
kinds of communities and it's a great
thing I love a lot of those communities
I'm close to a lot of those Rob but in
our neighborhood you know bjx was in
flish we started in flers simply because
the guy next to us right knew nothing
and I think just to piggyback also what
you're saying that the concept of how
easy it is to go ahead and to make an
impact on somebody so I remember years
ago I worked one of my first job we had
a fellow in the office he was Jewish
brought up Catholic knew nothing
and he used to eat that's how that's how
B it was and we used to work with him
but every day we had
a and he had a pride I'm Jewish his kids
who have a Jewish name are not Jewish
Chris's wife wasn't Jewish but he was
Jewish and he would come and join us
from Min every day I bought him an art
schol and every day he came to Min he
never missed M he wore a muza on his
chest of course it wasn't a real m just
to look like and he was busy all days
kissing his M okay he never missed
daving but was interesting is a few
years later he started fasting M gier he
used to watch the ball game but he
fasted M gier and I think that really
what you just said Ric gr just hit me in
the head I said that's incredible
because that really is the start of a
spark true he's he's that's the extent
of what he's doing and that's who knows
what do of this person that he could
fast on it's incredible but I I think
that that's you know talking to tiia
we're talking about this concept of how
easy it is to just your neighbors you I
had an next door neighbor unfortunately
passed away he was a conservative geran
I moved on the Block we brought him
shis I don't think anyone else on the
Block brought him
shis he he used to go every shabas
morning to his big conservative
synagogue on on the ocean between K andl
every shabas morning he went there he
didn't know from
anything and I know we made an impact on
him because he used to go special to own
nuts and buy us something every year to
give us back yeah I brought him into my
Su every year Hasa come to my Su shake a
it we don't realize the opportunities
are down they R all over the place right
and I think that's really what what
we're trying to do how easy you know
people say not in the care of you don't
have to be a the I'm not in care of
either but you could you could be m in
your office you could be m in the house
everybody's got second or third cousins
I I think actually you you you Rec we
when we spoke before you were going to
talk about the concept of driving right
I think I I I think you should expound
on that concept you know maybe I'm too
guilty on this one so even when you're
driving you cut off somebody or whatever
or you yell at somebody you know I have
a driver so he's a Russian guy with a
temper you know I said there's a Rab in
the
car you know he loses his patience and I
tell him listen you know one day you're
going to get shot you know it's you
can't do that you got to be able to be
in control right but but I think what
you said before the concept that they
all know the Jews right I hate to say it
you look at the license place everyone
there a leasing plate you know he's
Jewish the leasing plate you know the
Jews the GU buy from de we all buy from
leasing companies you know so that's
that's uh I think the main thing really
is to be a role model in every place in
in the secular world and the yish world
if you're a role model then people will
learn from
you toia is my role model oh yeah thank
you thank you I always say I I I have a
tremendous respect for anybody who could
give up a life of secularism and decide
to become from you know I don't think we
have an appreciation for enough you know
we were born is from ye this is our life
and we do our thing but for someone to
go ahead and to to open their eyes and
to realize how sad it is and I've had
many conversations with tuvia down the
lines of what we're talking about now of
this I look at the go and like you know
it's almost like pathetic they don't
have any enjoy what's the look what you
look at the Spitz he made it he's
celebrity what happens to them if them
commit suicide it's mindboggling right
that's what they're that's what they're
looking to I mean that's why they hate
us and that's why I was m and that rash
it wasn't that we
the they didn't take this they didn't
want it so they hate those who did it
and but that I think that AUD is the
jealousy yeah 100% And they look at us
and they see and and I see thatment they
see you happy they see you going to S
and you know they they but I think also
that in this concept we we we speak
about it we we have to just feel we are
so fortunate that BN from people you
know what I say all the time the word m
once occurred to me is B 100 you got to
be grateful for 100% of the things that
you have yeah everything I'm going to
throw one thing in for my mediation life
yeah please I I I find you know it's
when people going through challenges and
everyone has a challenge there's no free
lunch I think that that's that's
something that people have to understand
everyone walks around they say how you
doing you don't want to hear everyone's
story and they're not sharing the story
everyone has something and I think that
as a gab I know a lot of things that
going on that the average person doesn't
know and I'm sure there's plenty I don't
know and I'm sure if the re spoke to you
then
you and and and it's incredible what
people are dealing with in life and the
the the concept M I got to tell you
something adorable but I spoke at a
ritson's conference but go ahead okay no
no no you go ah yeah so so you know when
you when you're you brought up a
wonderful thought of people that I they
talk to me about their their bitterness
and what they go through in life and I
tell people everybody and this is really
I think I'm a big of reading right
Miller's works of you have to look and
to appreciate what you do have right and
I think if people we say bras every
morning my friend of says my BR every
morning in the and every morning when
says he goes like
this we don't appreciate simple things
that we have and if we was focusing on
what we do have and not focus on what we
don't have we'd be so much more
appreciative everyone is dealing with
challenges but there's so many good
things that we have I it pains me when I
talk especially people going through
divorce and it gets that's entire
different world of of the pain that
people go through and I just throw it
out just asde the community is great
with so much that we do but there's one
piece that if I was able to change it
would be this we we get involved we hear
about a family m a a a divorce whatever
it is and we only hear one side to the
story and i' if I've heard this a
thousand times that people walk in I
don't understand this person this
whatever it could be they never heard my
side story and yet the people just get
the feeling that there's something there
there there's a I call it TMI I remember
I years back there was a family that I
knew and I met one of the son-in-laws
and he just meets me on the street and
he's giving me all this information
about their family issue and I'm saying
why you giving me so much information
too much information why you giving me
this information and I feel like the go
and there's no community so when someone
goes through a challenge you're on your
own there's no one there to help you but
because we're a community there are some
people that know how to go don't I don't
know if they do it on purpose not on
purpose not a point but if you are my
you know if you're someone's sibling and
there's an issue if you really cared
about that person don't take it to the
street it it it's it's almost
mindboggling and yet there's so many
people that do that and the the now what
do you mean don't take it to the street
don't tell everybody don't tell
everybody why you giving me all this
information
this person came over to me it was
unsolicited and then I find people that
go ahead and they perpetuate it they
love the ha they love the talk RAB
Bender spoke about on my video and I'll
let you say a second he spoke about this
concept of because there's such a
fast-paced world in the internet and
everything else we got to a point he
said he believes that a lot of divorces
were coming about because years ago
things were in the house it was quiet
today in one second it becomes world
news and everyone's sending sharing
talking and everyone figur get out
already oh I know this guy from before I
know that guy no one knows anything no
one knows anything until you're in that
person's situation and whatnot and if we
just would let everyone deal with their
issues and not bring it and make a big
noise about it and keep it private and
whatever it is and there are people out
there like I don't charge for my time I
spend hours and hours helping people I
do not charge for my time there's a
number of people like that and we try to
help clol for one thing let's make shom
let's move Beyond it let's make shom
bias we that's our our goal if it can't
be Shalom bias Let It Be Shalom divorce
if it's a family issue keep the peace
and I have saved countless families of
course we don't talk about those details
and no one knows about it but when you
de with a divorce everyone knew about
the divorce and oh he helped out but I
think to me that just that that is the
same nuda that we keep talking about
this concept of trying to keep the peace
within ourselves let's not talk talk
about things and again it's something
I'm passionate about because I I I get
the calls people call me they say why is
it that they just feel like there's a
world against them and you know one
smart therapist told me you're not on
they tell them they're not on trial they
don't owe it to everybody to explain
their situation it's not our business
let them deal with it let's let's be
girl just called me in she wants to know
why everybody hates her she's 36 not
married father abused her it's just
terrible so one of the big areas and
this is what we've been doing as another
Shear that we've done for for over
almost three years is
on not speaking lash har and you've
spoken um it's a massive problem what
comes out of our mouths and if we can
control and don't say 50% of things that
we want to say our lives would all mean
much better whether you're observant non
observant what comes out out is is one
of the biggest sins and if we and just
change that and correct that it changes
the
world um I'm going to end my I think I'm
going to end my thought on on one of the
things that I tell people in Shas you
know so I actually have a phenomenal
marriage curriculum as well we're
working on making good marriages great
marriages okay great and one of the
things I tell people is be selfish so
what do you mean be selfish marriage
you're not supposed to be selfish I said
let me ask you they come to me they
complain I said this my wife upset of me
my husband was upset of me we didn't
talk for 3 days I said if you would
learn to just not say it for selfish
reason why be in a fight with your
spouse just don't say it hold it back if
something has to be said there's a time
to say it say it a half hour later say
it two hours later not when it's in when
people don't say it at all I said if
something has to be said and there's a
way to say it when you say it when you
thought about it it I'm talking to
myself as right we're talking to
ourselves as well sometimes I said do it
selfishly why do you want to get into a
situation you're not going to talk to
your spouse for three days yeah hold it
back and I think that's what you're
saying it's just a great this concept of
of you
know when we talk about it it does hurt
it stings and it hurts a lot of people
so again thank you to of you for
inviting me to join how about one last
wrap up thought from both of you I just
want to tell you that little thing about
the I had to speak for Ritson uh first
time I spoke in American one time in
England I spoke about it for about 60
riton what their lives are all about and
what how they should be and whatever so
of course I interviewed many of them you
know to get a concept of what they go
through so one rson told me the most
amazing thing she said I am so lonely at
the supper table I said but your husband
is not there he said no he's there but
he can't tell me anything because
everything that he knows I know who he's
talking about so we sit at the table and
a doctor or lawyer or travel agent can
tell her his spouse you know what
happened during the day but anybody that
he's going to tell me I'm going to
figure it out so we just sit
there I'm I'm better with my wife but
she doesn't I don't I I practically
never take this work home really I think
it's incredibly important it's not it's
not I never take phone calls you know in
front of my kids ever yeah you know this
it's not their business and whatnot I
generally will do most of my work during
business hours believe me really wow and
I'll tell you interesting Hashem has
blessed my business since I started this
about 10 years ago things that I cannot
explain I'll be there really what is
your business excuse me I I'll talk
about
it gentlemen thank you so much um I'd
like to thank the hak organization Rabbi
Yan mirov our dear friend Robbie for
coordinating this with us and today is
really the first day the rest of all of
our Lives because we're here to change
ourselves we're here to change our
Jewish communities and by the change we
make we'll change the world so this is
an official invitation for everybody to
join us on September 29th to come and do
one Mitzvah to light a candle and why do
we light we light everything we light up
the world we light it with chabas we
start with we light with Hanukkah for
many days we like for abdala we light
for yard sites so every Jew obs a n j
you can Light One Candle and you can say
in memory for all the people that have
died during this war no one saying kaj
for most of the people alive and don't
know kades because their families are
not Jewish they're Jewish but they're
not observant so no one's saying Kadesh
so it's very important that we all get
together all the various organizations
join the big federations the
habad I'm reaching out to everybody this
is the unification it's an announcement
we're unifying the Jews in America on
this day and I appreciate you coming
here and uh supporting this effort and
it's going to be like something we've
never done in America before and we got
to do it while we still have time thank
you for allowing thank you thank you