Chavra D'Hilchisa - R' Daniel Glatstein Interview With Yossi Zweig

[music] So we're here talking about a brand new program that's available for regular layman like me or maybe even Ben Tyra who are learning you know everybody's sitting in yeshiva stiking away learning Gmorra but like things like novi and sometimes we let fall to the wayside we figure we can ask somebody now they have this amazing program that you can attend shurim and they'll give you marmakus and you get to learn haloh with all the marmakus and where it starts off and how it goes And this is a way for you to hold on to this al not necessarily that you should be pasing for your family but at least when you go to the ro I believe you'll have more in your hand with us is Rabbi Gladstein one of the famed magum one of the one of the that is part of this amazing program Gladstein for joining me. How are you? >> Good. How are you? How's everything? >> Good. So tell me about this program. I heard it started about a year ago. Correct. >> Yeah. So we started about a year ago. We started it with uh two two tracks. We have uh what we call where we learn one year of one year which are the classically mim of let's say somebody learning for in other words if somebody wants to get they typically learn of now this is not a program in terms of giving uh ordination but we do give a certification certification that that reflects that a person has a a a strong familiarity with the uh subject matter. And so one year of one year and then we had another track and this year we expanded it to Shabas either or more and then also and here's why this is so important. >> Please tell us >> look uh the learning of Gomorrah has exploded in Kisa which is beautiful. A lot of people are learning dafi and it's very important but truth be told that's not the liker is that's you know well established writes in the intro to the a person's main learning has to be furthermore even mystically even kabalistically that says the main kesher we have with the tora isa for so even says the word is in other words you know every every is wed to thera every so we're engaged to her but we got to you got to consummate the marriage the way you consummate the marriage is learning so here's another important thing >> okay >> when it comes to learning everybody knows life is busy Life is hectic and in order for a person to do what they really want to do deep down you need to have responsibility. So what this program does is that it's a commitment. you're committed to the Shia once a week and there there are there is accountability uh you know there there is certification their their source material and uh there the level what a person's able to accomplish in learning is really commensurate with the commitment they have to it. So yes, a person's committed to learn the daf, but they're not necessarily committed to know it. And if you ask somebody new say over, >> you say, "Oh yeah, I know the name of the or I know the some of the concepts, but to take responsibility to know material." You're only going to know it if you're you commit yourself to know it. So, and the level of commitment of our program really allows people to to take ownership over the matern. >> All right. So, the shar is once a week. >> Shar is once a week. >> We're talking about what like an hour. >> The shar is uh my shar is an hour and 15 minutes. >> Okay. And even though you know it sounds long but because there's such an engaged and the people are they many of them prepare and people are taking notes and people take it seriously and we don't just do the just say yes no maybe we get the juice out of it the lumbus of it so the time passes fast >> and people really enjoy it people um think about it during the week they prepare they they review they there's a short quiz afterwards and it's it's lifealtering even someone who has regular commitments to gamarra this is learning to the next level really >> program is called so you were saying uh an hour and 15 minutes every week but let's say I where let's say the shar is not in my neighborhood is there a way to attend remotely >> yeah yeah so the okay so good um we all we obviously prefer people are there live you know I say do live to zoom But Zoom is a good option. You know, >> Gladstein is a famed Zoom rabbi. I mean, you've been giving Shore every week in person and everything goes up and you're not you're not one that shies away from technology. >> No, no, no. You know, the Tory says, you have to harness the technology of Yafes to bring it into the base medish. But look, we we prefer the live attendance. But if you're not in my neighborhood, so then the the options are you could watch it live on Zoom. You could um those who are part of the program have access to the shar even people who come to the share live they review the shar by listening to it again. So yeah, both are both are options. Both options are available. You could attend live or you could listen to it um uh zoom or afterwards recorded. >> Now glassian people that are attending this year, do they get like a sheet of Marchus and >> Yeah. So look even even more than a sheet there's a lot of um very fine tailored uh source material >> okay >> everyone gets the which has on one side the on the other side you have the rama translated you have main points of the shak and the taz in English that's one compendium that you receive another compendium is you have summaries of Shaktas and some other you also have a visualization so charts and diagrams and pictures. So you got you have a lot of important source material and the main thing really is that you have you have a shir you have a majir you have a kabura and you have a group of people who are really committed to mastering this these areas of halaka and you know this past year was very successful. >> We had about 50 people in my year. >> Wow. We started off >> and most >> made it through all the various you know levels of accountability. We had a few we had a few uh actually withkim with um we had with Rev Gamriel sinner we had with other piskim and here here's how I like to say it. You know for some people they they're thinking you know I could handle this. you know, it's been it's been a while since I took a quiz or a test or an oralina, but I'm game for this. I'm ready for this. You know, I need to I need to really elevate my level of limitra. But you always have people who are who are thinking, you know, no, come on. I don't have a head for this anymore. I could barely get through the day and I try to crack open a gamarra a little bit. And you have some people who say, no, no, no, I'm, you know, I don't have a head for bin or quizzes or oral bin. So >> which we can understand, you know. [clears throat] >> Yeah. You know, definitely I understand 100%. But so what what what I would like to say is we're able to cater to both kinds of people. If you if you feel your game for this, then it's literally up your alley. If you feel like, "No, no, no, I'm not taking the test," then we could cater to you. What do I mean is it's not as hard as you think. What do you mean? Even the bikino between me and you, they're really they're they're we're not trying to get you. We just want to make sure that people are taking it seriously. They're paying attention. They know the basic concepts, even the testing. Yeah, sure. If you're going to know all the minutia, you'll really excel. And but if you're not and you know, but you're faithfully attending this year and you're trying to review it, you're going to make you're going to make it through. You're going to do well. It's it's really not daunting. In other words, the the the testing allows those who are fully committed to thrive and at the same time it just elevates the game of those who are just used to maybe coming to a sheer sliding back and you know not being fully attentive. So what the testing will do is you're going to be much more engaged and you're going to see you know the basic concepts you'll be able to do well even if you don't know every single rabbi let's say so it it it's it works for both and we're going to ensure that that wherever you're holding in life or in learning you'll you will succeed in this program. Look, I think it's important. You know, everybody loves, you know, garging away with but I mean that's something that can come up. We're talking about things that come up in everyday life, right? I see that um you're giving the on on >> Yeah. Yes. >> And then we have is Shabas advance. >> Yes. Ravita is giving on Hilus we have shavaslansky and hilus uh revil glass as well. a lot of topics that are negaya in an everyday life of people. You know, a lot of people don't even think about, you know, we're talking about work, you know, what's overcharging, what's not overcharging, what's telling people what, you know, so there's a >> people don't think about on an everyday uh business level, let alone home level, but home level is definitely very important. So whether your wife is asking you if you know something called flig fell into something hot or whether it's just a matter of katras this will probably give you a better handle uh on your own house as well. >> Yeah you'll know you'll know what to ask you'll know when to ask some things you'll say you know this is not a shila and some things you'll see that the way you ask is really the answer you're going to get is dependent on certain factors that you may not even be aware to present. Mhm. >> So, >> so but I guess that's what you're saying the shar is doing. The shear is giving you all the parameters or sometimes it's just a black and white you know kosh or not kosher kosher tra but sometimes it's how did it happen? What happened? Tell me how excellent to why was why hot was it cold? Was it here? Was it there? >> Yeah. And also and also it gives a person a much more profound understanding of the process that that in all areas of life you know we're obviously just covering one topic at a time but when you see the depth of what's behind the then you realize is not just you know how I grew up or what I saw people in my family do >> it's it's you know this this is what gave to you so it's part of uh it it's it's Judaism it's yiddeskite it's >> past it's you It wasn't given at hari in written form but this is what we had to learn and this is what the tyra enabled us to do. Um yeah, most people don't really focus so much on it's true. Why why is Arabic lasting? Why aren't we why aren't we more attentive to Allah nowadays to to learning and stuff like that >> you know so look in in in yeshiva obviously the focus is on the lumnus because you know the yeshivas want to give number one they want to teach um they want to teach the the dak of learning the process of learning the logic of learning and then with that they equip you to utilize that to apply I mean you know the the the the the sharper somebody's skills are in lambdas, the greater their understanding of will be. So the the the pra the purpose of the years of nishiva are to train you to be able to learn. But then you need to take the training and use it. So you know some sometimes people get caught up so so much in the training they they don't then take it to the next level and use it >> apply it properly right apply it. Tell me as a as a mad shir you do you get asked a lot of shilus during the sh or or afterwards? >> Sure. Sure. Sure. You know people bring up questions. People ask questions after. Again the purpose of the sh is not that people know to ask. This is not for for um developing raanim. You know, but to get smika in yeshiva, you have to spend two at least two star a day for a year or two to learn the material. We're talking about people who are not currently in the yeshiva and but they never had the opportunity to learn yada, you know, they they maybe even learned in k but they never learned uh they've never learned in their entire life. There are many people like that, you know. They could have >> there's one right here. >> Yeah. I mean they learned >> I started learning about a year ago now just to try to I said look you know it's great that I can pick up and learn if I was ready once start picking up I mean but you know like sometimes I'm like I really should know more definitely. >> Yeah. So, and then you have Yeshivaite who let's say they they did learn Shakazon but now they want to get they want you know they learned it so in depth but but they never sort of covered all the ground so in a systemized way to know okay hold this and and they they've they've spent so much time delving into it that they don't have a comprehensive knowledge of the subject matter as one entity. So we have all kinds of people. We literally we have kyo people. I'll tell you last year in our program we had yes bakar who he was a mifa >> and you know look this program is a serious program the those who apply you know they commit themselves even financially to to be able to enter the program. This bakr raised money to be able to come to the program and he made it through. He got this certification. I think he's going into 12th grade. Last year was in 11th grade. He took off a night every week of his time and he did phenomenal. He he he aced all the tests and we had people who were you know zakanim >> who said you know let me give this a shot. I've never learned Shakaz. So literally I think the gamut of age ranged about 70 years. >> Wow. Seriously. >> Yeah. So it was really uh >> how was that for you as as the one giving the share to have that variety of age because you can't just teach it to like you know 30 year olds. You have to teach it from somebody who has a better understanding and somebody who has a lesser understanding. >> Harder >> you know it's very roing. You want to make sure that someone who didn't prepare and doesn't have strong background is able to follow. So you want it to be clear for someone without the preparation without the background to follow. But you also want it to be challenging to season that he also feels there's something to gain here. So it's very >> you explain it too simple. He's going to be there like okay I could tune out now because it's too simple for me. >> Exactly. Yeah. >> It's very hard on you last day. >> It's very rewarding you know actually and it's interesting that so this year and in the first year we just started Taru. That's why you know now's the perfect time for people to join because it's the very beginning of Taru Vice. So I like to ask people to introduce themselves in the beginning of the year. So I go around to all the people who are participating live and I go around then I go to the zoom everyone should participate. So you know this guy says my shaw is in Cedarst the sh the the share takes place live in Cedarhurst. So I had people there from Cedarhurst from Woodmir from Lawrence from Brooklyn even. And I'm asking the live people where do you come from? I'm come from Cedarhurst. I come from Ullet. I come from Lawrence. I come from Flatbush. I come from Bor Park. And then on the Zoom, you know, Lakewood, Tom's River, Muny, Stanton Island. So, I'm thinking, okay, this is all tri-state area. Then I have a guy London. London. I mean, it sure is 8:00. What? So, >> 3 in the morning there. Yeah. >> Yeah. It was Well, last week they didn't change the clock yet, so it was like tw It was 12, right? >> But still, it's it's late. So, I think, okay, London, then a guy tells me Argentina. >> Wow. And then I see the last guy in the bottom corner of the zoom. He's driving while he's listening to the shar. And I'm looking he had a he it's a it was light outside. So where where are you? He was in China. He was in China. So it's really uh imamish. It spans the globe. >> So we're talking about is not another share. We're talking about something that has weekly kaburas to challenge and inspire clear makist and a guide from learning that stick and a built-in accountability with testing like Rabbi Gladstein said you can sign up online kavra.net or you can call 347-4597352 or if you so want you can send an email adminra.net where glastain I'm sure you're already preparing for a share. I know how your your day is so filled with shorimm and um giving over knowledge. I just want to thank you for your time and I don't know you you might have convinced me to see if I can even attempt this and I'm very skeptical about tests. [laughter] >> Okay, look uh keep up the good works and it was a pleasure speaking with you as always. You too.