Shiur Kloli Hachana to Lag B'omer Kollel L'lomdei Dach, Rabbi Yossi Klyne - 5786

Okay, good evening. Now we'll begin. So what we're going to do today is really um discussion which is really and then there's the famous. So let's just begin with some background is what's the name of maybe it's a to um stop the evil but why is it for you know passed away and that's it they stop dying but that's it you know why did they stop dying because they all died out except there's also a discussion about whether it's included or not but and this is already brought the would bring from the is and that's really the mus of the day in fact the lotion even inv the beer is and because wherever the t of the day is that's why the the that's why the hisus of was on that day now what's the of this day is the and therefore we are the with the first um ones to celebrate we are the ones which There's a famous lotion of there's a letter in it's printed page 117 over there. It says which is coming up and he says the words because we drink a drop just the the tip. So therefore we should be celebrating the day of we know there was um a special emphasis on celebrating there's a many stories we know about um he would even in make sure that people don't have morning in order that the whole day should be spent fabanging the whole everyone in the would get together and we would fabang And it would actually be a few days of and the shabas after was called something like that. And it was the peak of the year. That's what it sounds like. This was all around because it's all about and says that we see how is but the more one has a more there's a going to and celebrating it's one of the the things which are very bent. Yeah. You go to you see over there. So this is but there's anyone who who accepts on himself of them also and those which are not yet so like you know I once heard from one of the he said he doesn't understand why people go to he says says they they found one. So obviously the we see that there's and we see also how in this brought out as so however you'll say it the fact is that today is celebrated invi like it never was in the history of this isn't a single um kindergarten and girls school where it doesn't make a difference which may be them their zas or elades didn't even know of the importance of the day but first of all beginning with the parades and making the emphasis and about and it it penetrated and the fact is that it's become there's nobody that can't in some shape or form and again the more you learn the more you have a cash with there's more of an emphasis now the actual as we know is we have the cabal from that happened on so in it doesn't say the date but we have a very detailed description exactly of what happened over there's we know in there's in pious there's what's called And in paren there's this the means was a a bigger meeting. There was more attendees and it was for much longer. It was a a meeting like a summit if we could say such a word where the those gathered and they made a sedar in the suggest and there was nisgala over there deep in him and then there was in the last day of his life what was called the zut a minor meeting and over there they gathered and they um rashi was meala deeper in yanimat Now we know how it's described in Zar how much Raji was Megala then in Yim everyone was trembling and everyone was was excited that there was but the truth is that it's even very posh it's apparent just by looking if you look at the Z you know these two and a lot of that we learn which is really comes from these places. So the is really dedicated a lot to Zo a lot of Zus that whole and in which is this is the day of when Rashi was deeper in which he never revealed that's where you have all the um it's but um the way we understand it now it's it's But it was then like it says so as we know the description I'm not going to go through the whole just to to put ourselves in the mode it's to read it nowadays there's easy to read translations in kadesh and in other languages in au describes how different shamas cameab and around him there were seven sadikim and they were all with crowns and each one of them was shining with a special zar a shine a glow of and suddenly appeared and they made for him a place and everyone began trembling all the began to say and the whole day he was dening and it's a very beautiful descript description over there how suddenly the the day um the sun started going down and the day was about to conclude and it was this and then began to say everything that I said is true everything is there one shouldn't um move from any word that I said and this And he said then he said those famous words by the that is with me and that's these words about being in the then he strengthened himself and you you one saw on the lips of the his lips were moving and no one could look at him because there was such a great shine. So everybody looked away and then he said my whole life I've been waiting for this day to be migala this secret and I I didn't manage and now I was given permission so this day should never turn dark this day is all in my in in my rash this belongs to me and that's when it would start to be in migala even deeper in his studies than what he was saying the whole day so this is on this day just to to understand over on the day he's explaining how this day belongs to him. This is mind talk and therefore forever it's going to remain my day and then as we know um they were sitting over there who was the chief tal of was sitting and writing everything he he was saying and suddenly he the stopped talking and he he was saying the words And when he said those words, he passed away. And this is when everyone began trembling. And then it describes over there how they prepared for the la and um there was a gill there was als and it's over there where it says these words that what is this day it's a day of it's a day of celebration which means now so this was a bit a longd But this is the day of that we're coming to celebrate asen and asim and as rashi said this is his day. So it's a day of there are those we know from the um famous where is troubled by the fact where you celebrating is is a day of fasting. It's not a day of celebration but and he says I'm happy I don't live in that I have to take part in this and I don't want to um be uh pull away from it. So therefore it's like he's relieved that he doesn't have to deal with this very negative about but the Reb explains that um the answer is because himself said that it's a day of and therefore it's a day to celebrate. No, Adan is onidus. This is the the which anyone familiar with is about would know. Inidus there's an interesting new for this day. we have in the in over there he says now just to clarify in the gali immediately this is not um to take away from the original mat there's only one mat like the da there will never be mata again so what happened there's one mata the ta was given But this is a gilly of mat. So Misha as we know had the same of Misha. So Misha was he was Malib revealed the nigler which was given to Mat. He unpacked and shared what was given by Mat and Rajbi was so if you could say the is the day the entire terra was given but it's also the matra or the gilly of pim. That's when it was actually sorry of that's when it was given was given on during that special m of as we described earlier now just to to what's this emphasis the reb wants to emphasize that it's not two separate mas it's one first of all because if aided is has accepted on on himself. Then you also it's not like you could say okay I've accepted but not by they were given together and then there's even deeper which is always in them and are interconnected. So this is the is the to and it's interesting um that we know is one and the same. It's the same. That's why there's a part of which is called which is all about which is but there is a classic question which is asked about why do we say not in our we say to what not. So there were those which wanted to bring maybe there is such a to say. So maybe you it's a mistake always refers to with a base. So the Reb answered that no first of all we have from the we say I if so why do we call with a base he said from that with a base is because the mus of the day is all about so that's why we call it with a base now this v So what's what does it mean to say that it's what does it mean in the significance of the day what we expected what's a day of of learning what's the m and this is a new lotion of the rebel So the truth is first of all that in in Isaiah itself he describes describes as what's a day of now a as we know is also called a famous so the the fact that in we call which means which is the of so it makes sense but we didn't really answer the question we just kicked the can down the road what's the of and the of for that matter which this is supposed to be the of the day of and this is what hopefully we're going to be able to cover today after this long extending What's the vert of being of what exactly is this vault? Now the way we'll do it is there are three which are found in which is again a fascinating thing. It could be it's connected to what was mentioned before that you see that we want to show that is part of there's a for it but we find in three and through closer inspection we could see that there's really three it's not just different it's different in the depth in the of what is the so what we're going to be doing today is we'll move in three stages to understand what's the okay before we go does anyone want to clarify anything jump in up no okay the finally is good okay so the first word is Um, it says like this. There's a over there. It says, we're talking about the woman that she has to become a how does she become a first? She has to have seven days when she's and then there and then there's another 33 days which is and she can't come to so as we know just if we're already talking about the Gill it's arguably one of the the um important um central uh um figures in in the of Gill of the world. Yeah, we know there's two just to clarify there's two here and the he lived in the 11th century but we're talking about who lived later he lived he was a of and he wrote what was called the media and this is one of the first works in where first of all many of the over there were clarified made simple so therefore it was more accessible and also papas it was written You could see clearly the influences already of the which was in those days. So and and it was and that's how became and he's pastor was influenced also from the also then was um the of his but also from the hisb we know him. So brings over there first he says why but he says what's the of 33 days for you may say there's 40 days you may have so therefore you have to have 40 days so seven days of plus 33 days of makes 40 so that's the process of making is then he says like this. We know that has 32. There's 32 paths in and then there is the or the if we're going to count the or which is the woman over here in this case which is becoming then it's going to be 33. So you have to have the 32 plus the he just says the art without so let's just this is brought what's this 32 means that it's theos of the gill of is the idea of the experience of the em of alus seeing h That's that experience. For it to be in its full full um um import it should be expressed fully it has to have um 32 nas. So in the 32 nas is because plus the 10us. But in it's usually or quite often brought the it's the meaning we have as we know is a mockery. So there's that's why there's four parishes in the in the which is on the so is four. If we're going to make a of four so four * 4 is 16 and since we want to be also on the so therefore it's going to be double 16 is 32 so the which is what is all about and the expression of it till it's going to influence also the midas mock for midas that's 32 which is of also the reason for the 32th strings in the titus Now what's 33? 33 is the makab 33 is that there's a nukva over here that there's somebody outside of the space of me or even the gill of me in the way is pouring into there's something which is the aab and if we're going to reach that place then it's going to be 33 now let's translate this a little bit more inbar You have a rav which is when is by definition we are limited to the world of a person can't ask a question not a a logical question if a is I can't talk to you if it's a good and the way we're describing over here he has 32 so he could go from stage to stage to um step by step he could dilute it he could water it down the sor could be compromised and condensed it could become to a point where I could deliver it even to a simple Talmet but if the Talmud's not interested in if the Talmud's not looking to understand if if there's no what we call a communication of he's not looking for any idea so there's no one to talk to we're stuck that's idea that it says in in we say it in the we say why is bino limited because comes to a point where I could reach only I'm still limited to a place of what we call five this it's and then or or sorry and then why do we It finishes by I can't step out of that place. I'm limited to the place of which in in in other words means if you look in the what's in the Yeah. Which is over there only till why do we stop by because that's where the there's a the the is going to be limited. I have to talk to somebody who who which is a cle that's the past is limited and will only reach till however is a new what's the idea of is the re defies limit meditations in a simple language what's this supposed to do if he's talking to who are not interested or better said he's talking to people which are not I can't talk to him the answer is the way we we we demonstrate it with pastors in classrooms today use visuals show him don't explain explanations have limitations you have to be a cle he has to be He has to be interested in for me to he has to be a for me to be able to give a so it's the talking the world of which is the world of reaches everywhere if you show it a child will understand he doesn't even have to be interested in understanding he'll be able he'll he'll just see it the fact is you've demonstrated it so The reaches beyond the regular limitations of and that's the over here that we say that this 32 but the is that reaches the 33rd he reaches outside the gdar like always says in that comes um that the mascul meaning reaches the poor person which is or even more that reaches even the father is reaches the brat which is the in other words the the gill of the ble of doesn't have limitations so to summarize it there is the regular which where we would be limited to communicating in of mabo And then there's when the isful doesn't have any limitations. That's the lotion that is long. It doesn't have any limitations and it reaches till and that's the vault of reaching the lammed giml the or what called the the the now what's interesting over here as we know is when we come to the culmination of hate we count the spheres and we're in middle of counting the week of hate now and amidst hashem Monday Tonight we're going to count. So the this the the the over here is like this. There is the regular seder of spheres where we count and reach to a place of hate and then we're finished. The fact that we're going to be able to even now progress that's because it's lag says that we're going to go v then just these limitations of talking about gilehim which are expressive we're going to going to reach outside of ourselves I'm going to become a mashia what's is the the the power of communication of connection this is what is what's is the power that a a human has to marry someone else not himself. The whole k of this of connection is I could marry somebody different to me not me and when we when there's a unity between husband and wife what's happening over here is I'm leaving my own which is basically I have to draw out of myself a well of blev that I'm not limited to myself and I could reach something on someone outside of myself in there's build some kind of communication there's a there's a connection says I totally put myself on the side says it's all about you you're the only person that's a that's the says in three lines this is the way in we explain this of um the 33 and this is expressed doesn't say about he just touches the um the counting for the for the woman But we understand this that brings and says this should be applied also this is the vert brought very cryptically but this is what's brought in the mind of when he says that is is the is because as we know what's the is marrying a ye or the ye is marrying the however we say it there is a in that communication over here of blev reaching beyond myself. I'm marrying the the the good that's just if we'll stop over here. This would be a art for itself and the this is what we we finish with and this is something just to if we would walk away with this what's the day if we'll go back to sitting with writing over there and you have and they're all they're trembling and they're excited and they they they are like this what's happening over here is that Rashbi is saying I'm sharing what I'm saying is something which will be everlasting. It's never going to be limited to this day. It's never going to be limited to this group of this is true forever and everywhere. That's what is saying could reach everywhere. There's no space or time. There's no um there's no school of thought. There's no error. There's no culture which we could say This is not applicable. The vert is saying it's limitless. It's reaches I reach outside of myself and that's I've reached the as we know what's the comes into the and we've broken all boundaries. This is Lak. Good. Before we go higher, anyone who wants to No. Okay. This is CL. Yeah. All right. Now till now the way explains and also should mention the from the but there is a second beer which theb brings a different which we find in not the from the counting of the of the but in capital. We say the which means reveal to reveal my eyes to allow for I should be able to look to look at the now this doesn't need explaining this is this is a a beautiful um sometimes the rem needs a lot of explaining and the more needs explaining think the the is this is like it's just read the words there's no no better which you would pick to describe what's the meaning of that there's a gill of and I'm allowed to be able to see it especially since we we've understood that what's the vault of that it's tak limitless it reaches every place and every time so therefore we we allow everyone's eyes gi everybody could look and appreciate However, the Reb in this landmark, the Reb says, "No, this gali is saying something far deeper." Let's ask the Lion is very strange. You mean gal ani there are ideas which are so high so lofty that can't be explained and then there is that the is going to create a a a special special gill which happened sitting and being that he's going to break all the limitations what's that going to be a big gill of mo like in the language we were using before it's going to be a gill of So the reason I didn't understand it till now is not because my eyes were closed or my eyes were limited. there was a problem in the k and the solution will also not be if you're going to make enhance or um somehow fix up my k to be able to become a broader cle is it was it was it was it was a not because I couldn't know it because it was which is called it's it's hidden of which is hidden is a secret it doesn't mean that I don't know it If if so then there's many of the which I would consider because I don't know it doesn't mean that I don't know it say means that it's a secret it's hidden it cannot be revealed this it depends whether you want to be malit so if you if you're going to have this gill what we described before of being able to show this um to come down even to the that would be the miler of what's sobb says sometimes you have that the is the like in the example of this rav if we'll go back into the classroom which um he shows a demonstration he has a fact and even the most simple Talmud cannot deny it he's seen But the way the Talmud understood it is because the Rav overwhelmed him. The Rav is so powerful. He manages to bring the most sublime lofty ideas and share them with everyone. He's forced me to understand it. I don't have a choice. But if you're going to ask me tomorrow, explain to me, put it in your own words. Could you argue that that case? Said, "No, I could. I don't have a choice. I I I have to be made it. But it never became mine. It's not mine because I think that way. It's mine because he's so strong. So therefore, I I I have to give in. As we know what's mat is there's a two-part um process in mat but then comes the ultimate goal what's the difference means that the alien is so powerful he he could reach everywhere there's nothing out of his reach that's not means that the is a place where it's comfortable like that we describe that this is a home this is an abode where you could live that the is the one who who's hosting on his terms it's a it has to be a coming from the from the perspective of and that's what we're missing so you could have if will go back to pouring and everybody being and and that's not the ultimate um really is gill of is in a way of mat not only that mat was given was given the ultimate goal of ma is that m was received that's true gile of and for that to happen we need to have gal anai that my kaleim my eyes are changed not only the is revealed to me my eyes have changed which is in simple words the objective of learning when we learnus there could be could come in a way that I've I've become privy to the Reb's world. The Reb has shared with me his truth. That's a the experience of a or of learning a and going on a trip with the Reb. But that's managed to to to take me along means that I'm going to think in my own logic. I'm going to think in my own language I'm going to talk about it in my in my own words in my own frame in my own culture where I come from does this make sense in the world and that's the asidis has become mine in simple words let's ask this about something that the reb never discussed will you be able to say what would the reb to say about that if it was all so my eyes haven't changed has overflowed my head which is galdic gal ani means change my eyes let me look differently at things I have I have new I I have new glasses I have a different cook that's the of that I should be able to have different eyesight a different vision, a different perspective. And that is the ultimate goal of the Gil. Now, let's just add a little bit more. What's the V over here? It's not just, you know, there's two halves. There's like whether the alien is and whether the Tan has also become engaged and and it's become his own union. If the tan hasn't become changed, it's a limitation on the gill of the ble. Why? Because what you're saying is that the only way that this is true is by people um putting aside their own their own opinions and having to admit that there's something beyond them. So the truth is limited. the MSA emmes is that if it's takru then it could be understood in every kind of um approach everyone's mind everyone who has every thinks differently ifidis is true then I should be able to say it in my own language and if not then it's a limitation of the truth like like the said especially when it comes to what'sidus is means that if it's true, every thing which exists in the world should be singing the song in its language. So if I'm going to say that and I can't understand them. So that's very good. You we've reached the place of amun but your mind has not been accessed is that my amun is made and my mind understands and my heart feels and my feet dance. Every part of me is mas in its own. And the only way that could happen is if if my has its own eyes have changed. That's the gal. So what's the tr what's true marriage? We have over which is what we called before the meeting of with the kala. So one is that the we've trained this we've taken this ber which lived a life of a selfish self centered egocentric life and we've told him listen here there's other people besides for you and he steps out of himself and he reaches also the that would be one level of so the over here in this case is of course and he's reached also the but that's not the the a real meeting a real marriage. A real marriage is not that I've managed to reach you. A real marriage is that there's a true communication between two and both of them have met in one place. In other words, that the now talks the language of the Mashia. If I really want to get married to the If we want to get married to the gill of we want to attend this, we want to be present by celebrating Rajbi. The way we're present is not by coming and just allowing for the Gilead of Rashbi to overtake us. The way we're present is if we bring our minds, our hearts, our personalities to the table and we get married to it. We become transformed and changed and we agree and more than agree it becomes our own opinion now that we say I says I say it in my own words. That's the of this is all the second of understanding the depth of the the of the is however a third aen which is the vort really of the mime galite of the third is actually really the most classic. It's the in which is the of says over there where's the forb in sorry in the he says there was the story between yanke and lam. So, Yankeev escaped. Love and chased him. And then he said they, it says in the they met and they made a piece, a pact or a treaty. And in order to keep the peace, they made a pile of stones which is called a gal. A gal is this pile and they made up that they're going to meet that this gal is the border. is the to of and from here begins and this is the gal which is the the pile of stones which is going to make the separation. Now Rashi says immediately what's this separation they're not going to pass to each other they would never cross this for battle for business of course they're going to be able to pass that's why he explains in they didn't build a wall if they would have built a wall it would have been understood that it's there just to to to sever the relationship but the the point was to have a pile of stones where it's possible to deconstruct in order to have some traveling that should be when it's appropriate. Now this vault this is the reb spoke about it on many occasions in the earliest of there was many love over here but let's focus the past of the vert what's the pastas it's mish saying it goes hand in hand with what we've been saying till now what's the theme of that the alien is going to come and penetrate We have the tom of Yankee which is the of you have which is clipper. The question is whether we're going to be able to reach also clipper to reach those those nits. So of course at the beginning you have to make a separation. If people think that kadusha is clipper and clipper is kadusha that's um a non-starter. So first of all you have to have clarity. That's the pile. But the pile is here not to serve as a wall. The pile is here to serve as a stepping stone. Soon we're going to be able to cross and bring the from the alien to the which is what's the idea of this you pass like the says in other words like this is like moving we found in it says this but the way it's not it's just a pile in order to be able to pass. So it's the same idea. Now, we could understand it the way it was in in the um first that it's just the alien reaching the because he's so powerful or he could understand it even deeper that we're reaching the in a way that should be but learns in this that no the em is that the there's a third and deeper part over Until now we've understood that the there's a a hester which is something standing in the way between and we want to pass through this this uh um limitation. What's the vert over here? We don't really want to pass through the limitation. We're going to take this very pile and we're going to deconstruct it. So the pile itself is going to become over. It's not that we've taken a wall and broken it down. The way the helm was made was in that the was to to bear. So in in in language the symptoms itself was bishilli that was part of the gilly process. Let's try and put this in in Havana language. If we're going to go back to the classroom. So till now we've seen two stages. There's the rav which has reached the simple talid just by showing him the then there's a deeper the is not only showing him but he's convincing him and he's helping him speak in his language this truth. But then there's a third stage. How does the Rav look at the fact that this Talmid has a limited or a specific kind of logic? But it's something that we have to overcome. I'm going to manage to show how even in that in that he's going to be able to to understand the truth. Themes are as if there wouldn't have been this style of thinking this of understanding things that wouldn't have brought out the ble of the where does the ra's come out because of these limitations. So it's not a challenge the fact that this that the over here this is the so let's talk in in in coming back to understanding the first of understanding is asidus is I could understand it the second is so true I could even understand it in my own language the third is saying no understanding is the tlas it's not like this is better before it's come into my mind and I've even included my mind the is what brings out the what's the if the itself the fact that there is a logic that's so the reason why the made this system this system ofum is in order to bring out the full glory the gill of thetar soas If if we'll translate it in the first two stages, you know, if there's something which is if if we would be able to work without if we would have been like the that we could see the truth without having to use limitations of then it would have been ideal. What could we do? We're working with our whether it's an of overpowering the or convincing the now we're saying no the objective the mat was all about the gal we want to take this and use this and this is why it was set up this way so why is that soidus is also understood so when we're learning but pastures let's bring it down into practical language when we learnus and we try to say a mul or to use our or to to our own like to to be mad or something or to compare to to understand and try to be mashit what we're doing what we're saying over here is what's the what's we are saying we're looking for a place which is which is the and that was created in order to bring out the so when is it's not ultimate ultimateis is da understood and that's the ultimate marriage. The ultimate marriage is not only I've managed to reach someone else. It's not only I've managed to include or convince someone else. It's the what brings out the best of me when the is someone else. And it's in that language which is going to bring out who I am. says what the symptom is with the greatest gill. If we would have had this symptom then we would never be able to have the full gill. Now just to finish off with a with the Reb says interestingly that way we've understood is that there's three different yeah you have the v the way it's from the that's the 33 days like the the woman in who has to yeah then there was which is that the tin should himself become convinced. We want to uncover the vision to to um empower the person himself to look and understand. And then there's the third is that the tas itself was this symptom which is we learn from adal. Now the Reb points out that in the m of the marash before he brings the rais on gali which was the second one that we learned he brings this of the where it says which is very interesting but why is he bringing it just say you want to say but is actually a much more clear and simple it's a beautiful why do you have to that the in the he says another so the way I would learn the rash is because he's just proving that there's this concept of looking for mid so he's bringing an example that did it or the in therefore I'm doing a different but the rebel learns deeper he's explaining what's the ems of art of gal meaning don't understand only the way we understood like in the second really I mean to say like in a of I want to say that the that's the of that the reason I have eyes why do I have eyes is because this is the greatest this is what it's all about it it's not in simple words the fact that has to come to is not because I'm limited so we have to talk its language no this is by design. This is the only way of bringing out the ble is by bringing out the potential which there is in the in the so of like we say this is our of those. So what what happened? What's this great hila the celebration of raji is number one is thatidis is accessible to everyone you can't be too too for them that's the first thing that in itself is an important thing to learn and to think about unlike there's no one which is not the second aan is that the way we learn like I didn't mention this but always says this that's what it says over there in the z in the is that the way that Rashi was meal it was an of what does it mean that becomes my sustenance it becomes that it be in his own then is to understand that this is what it's all about the fact that I have this IQ and this brain like nobody else has this is this is all about this is the and there's nobody who could learn like I could learn because everyone's going to understand it different if we learn like says because everyone has a different so when I learn I'm going to learn in a way that never happened and never could happen and that's the that's going to be the of But >> all right is the sum of the the different >> stages over here in >> so is this a level we are going to reach in lassid lavo >> I'm sorry I can't hear you. >> Yeah I know um >> can you hear this a level we're going to a level we're going to reach in lassid lavo or is this something that we should be able to reach right now? No, this is obviously the ultimate goal is is in love. It's going to come out in its full um expression, but this is a today. >> Um you know sometimes you hear people you know warn against making kadushima for example or or you know or the only excuse is maybe because it'll lead to your shamim. What you're saying is now our ofidis is t is really that we should all be able to be giving my if what you're saying is >> no no then it would um be just me expressing myself. The point is that wouldn't be a marriage. A marriage isn't where you have the kala taking over the place and just um saying what she wants to say. The point is that there's a union that the alen and the tax become one that the tum is going to talk say the in his own language. >> So why is that not saying a mimer? >> I don't understand >> because a m is the if I take this I internalize it and it becomes mine then it becomes one and then it's a true unity. If I'm not saying the minor, if I'm saying myself, so I'm just the itself. The point isn't that the should express itself. The point is that the should be. Yeah. But when you're explain when you're explaining all the all the you've learned. So you're giving over. If we're saying if you really have the true understanding then what you're saying out of your worth it's mu with the the the original zag of the mime with your one thing with the aster one thing with the elocus. So your words are the the zela level of kadusha in a sense you know you're being true to the mimer is otherwise you're saying the only thing that's kesh is when it's an really the really doesn't become it just becomes more just where where >> of course of course it's about it's about the alien permeating the that's >> not enhancing the I mean what you said is that the the vort of the the he's you know he's if it's just the it's not a true whatever. >> No. Okay. So let's just clarify. There's two ways how we host the >> we could host the alien in a way but just the alien I'm I'm I've been overpowered overwhelmed by the truth or it could be in a way that I've become convinced and redesigned and therefore I myself also speak the same language as truth. But it's all about the truth overtaking me. never that I've become just an independent thinker. >> Okay. So, yeah, I'm assuming the truth has overtaken and he's he's now been affected so that he's now speaking he's you know what what's the main the so we just have to be careful not to assume things before they've actually happened. So if there is let's just to clarify if there is a V which is coming because I went to this and I and I've internalized it and from there I'm sharing an idea problem is that it's always very difficult to discern what's where's it coming from is it only coming because the kids is overtaking or there's other things there's alter motives there's um other things which other ingredients which get stirred in the pot right I do have other influence inuences. So >> we have to be careful to constantly be in a mode of that the alien is overtaking the >> that's what you said at the beginning. You said you had to be first there had to be it had to be separations. You got to know what the alon is and the tland is but ultimately you're talking about a complete uh merger uh the coming down to the as the I was just reading in the tonight you know you know that the talks about you know both things together the mile of you know you know going on the aish of and then the actual you know 10 that the aster actually said the world created the world with and the two the two things the and the 10 go together. The 10 is all the details in the pratim and is the is the the fact that the aish you know is is the bringing something in you know everything is equal but everything else the 10 is detailed and the 10 from the 10 uh you know saras is the same thing there's the which is the fact it's the and then there's the the all the details and she brings out the same thing but he said ultimately has to be that the elon doesn't become any less elon when it comes comes down below and the tactone when it goes up doesn't become any less tactone when it goes up above. So I so I said that's like landing a jumbo jet on a helicopter pad. The jumbo jet still remains the jumbo jet and the helicopter pad remains the helicopter and you're showing the true godless of the pilots. You said the you said I fa I'd say because you said if our mind understands this thing you know then you're talking about something that's >> that should to be coming out you know >> but I mean so really what we're saying is isan know it's I think when we learn like you said you said wait put your seat belts on we're not there yet that's why I preface saying is this something in lassi lavo or can we do it now because if taco were doing it Now you know that a person >> we have to do a of it. Now in the minor itself I believe he concludes let me just open the minor. I think he does conclude that the slavess of it the perfection will only be love. Yeah. He says through now so then it will be but but only will be there's nothing to worry about but this will be whatever a person will say then will be today. It's it's still a struggle. We constantly have to be doing this as an Okay. >> So, it's the of today to do this >> with seat belts on. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. It's good to see you. I haven't seen you in a while. >> Yeah. You know, I I the conflict of I I teach a couple nights, so I write I conflict over when when the classes are going on. I was in Israel miraculously for PESA for three weeks and after >> and uh but looks like there's just a couple of us on at this late hour. It didn't look like the gallery view showing >> Y me. How you doing Y? Haven't seen him in a while. It's in Pittsburgh for Yeah. I mean, you know, we could talk. We could for bringing I guess we're online. Bring it tomorrow. >> How you doing? >> Oh my gosh. you just how you doing? >> Okay. Very much and for all thear even if I'm not at your classes, I always listen to it a couple times. So, we're still in communication. >> Still connected. You just It's not two way. So, >> I said you made it a convenient time for me tonight. >> All right. Okay. and all the best.