Panel :Yud Aleph Nissan and Pesach By the Rebbe - 5774 - פאנל י"א ניסן ופסח אצל הרבי שנת תשכ"ד

the special now though people who were reading the advertisement and they're not they didn't grow up in >> you have to ask >> uh at least someone got that so uh those who read the uh the signs of the so they're not sure what the name of this particular Mura is called. So they only saw the Hebrew poster, not the English one. It's a hard word to to know what that is. But then they to help that they got the sign in English. So they thought it was a panel. So uh panel I see Rabitkin is here and I learned by Rabitkin just so you shouldn't think was wasting time and one of them is panels right. So this not panel though. So, uh, but this panel they sell telephone this can move on and uh of course I don't know if you know when you listen sometimes to Fabangans you hear speaking in the hookups that's that's who's speaking and you you see him here so he has a big only we're not only mix up here today uh but the panel is about Nissen is There's a hik and a a leto a just a very very special day and you ask why I say it's a special day I'm sure here will speak about that also was the rebba once told somebody that when you're here and you're spending some time you have to take back with you some gashmas and from and uh this is Rabbi Rabbi Lu Rab's story. So we lean a you have to keep track in the audience here what he has to tell that's going to be one of the things we're going to put some of his nud is here together and uh it's a special day foridan special day it always was so one of the things that in the later years of I say the later from from the the the early lit from the rebba's 70th birthday from was really 69 was the union of the negim we'll talk about that we'll speak a little bit more about how the fact that was to negim of his even in earlier years when it wasn't yet popular and it wasn't yet uh an official for the year on the cap just like the de wrote uh sometimes a word or a pekk from his cap when he wrote it in the either a mik of k or in a telegram something the Reb quoted from the but there were times that there were times that the Reb also had them sing that already existed the famous ones of course are and he will tell us also about about etc. But to begin, we have with us here today somebody who has this nifla to having had composed several of the nigunim which became the official nunim of the of that year. And just to before I call him up to share with us uh some of his special reflections on this I want to mention that in in in from the inms the Reb's niggan was always the first niggan that was sung by Fabangan when the Reb came in to Fabangan uh they would some sing something else but then it was quiet because the on a weekday Fabangin they never always said first right away when he sat down before he even made and or the made kesh first andor made etc. And after the drank from the wine the rebned and they would always start to sing the ngan of that year that was the same by every faban whether it was miz whatever it was. So we have with us now today two two young who have that great privilege. First I would like to call uponat well-known Balmanagen who has this who will share with us some reflections on the rebunim followed by Okay. Good English. Okay. claimer in inad Fore from dark volcano. Ion is um from mention my friend. No. Yeah, this is Allah. for the relationship with U. Um, I guess problem for again before we get to the mentioned now in the end uh really from that year which was talking about there were several and we'll be fabing later on uh not here. But uh he was I believe also one of the first that were that took sukim and they added it to existing nigunim. Well like like and to the extent that that that that the next year after uh that year they they added they use the same they recycled right. So then later they started with the unique. So it's my privilege, pleasure and honor to call upon who also was uh a very well-known famous niggan for another occasion. And uh I also had if we reminisce when I see him I I had a place by the fabangan which really geographically was very close to the fight but there was really not a but was the other side of the table there cuz I was but after the I used to sort of climb out. He was always nice enough to make some room so I could get up and not be cuz I was sitting I used to sit immediately to the Reb's to the deb's left. Right. uh I'm not going to describe it now because that's but uh after that I used to come so we used to stand together a little bit so that that it brings me back to something very special without further ado thank you so much briefly I want to take you back to how it all began and honestly when I was asked to speak here. I had a little bit of a dilemma. Dilemma being today the ba that witnesses that reads that hears. So the Indian of the niggan takes like a very important place for me to come and speak about it. I felt that I have to be careful not to blow it up more than what it is. Of course, not to minimize it as well. But the niggan is this is the tool. This is the handle. This is a connector to this big day and throughout the entire year to the capital. Of course, it has a very important place. But when I present it and speak about it, I felt that I have to be careful not to blow it up more than what it should be. Having said that, let's go back a little bit. Like Abshalam said in his childhood there was a little bit of object that we make nigunim today. I remember at Hifa where while I work in Safus somebody came up a number of years ago few years ago and he asked me I'm sorry if I may ask you I overheard your name fight 11. the fight 11 that did this and this niggan is he related to you like he must be like a grandfather or elto I told him no I'm I'm here I'm facing just to say yes it was something that in my childhood as well was unheard of and here is how it all started uh from a very young age I discovered that I was given a talent by And I used it. I started composing. Love could be songs and some of them are recorded by now on CDs that we gave out at SIM. And then I said to myself, why not do something with it for us? I always read and heard this niggan came from this. This niggan came from this. this composed by that etc etc I said so why don't we hear today back then that anyone from our time composes and of course when I started to speak about it in bona ah who are you okay but then when I came here more and more I discovered that this was at all not the way that the Reb was thinking of. I understood a little bit and I understood that we do matter. Yes, we are algaban but we are who who we are otherwise the wouldn't be saying and giving us all the etc. So again it started more and more to battle like why not at that time like Robert Feller said we used to spend some time together out of fangan since I was part of the which took me every shabas to house after there was a foban to kazangan etc etc so I started to ask him about it is it is halton that we should make a niggan So he was all for it. He said if you feel that you have a talent you can do it do it. But then there were a number of among them some of them that were mentioned before as well that were in Gans kingdom say it's on it's being recorded. I'm not going to say the exact quote, but a young man is thinking of himself. And argued if it's something that brings let's try and see back and forth back and forth and at le was was made and we made a recording. Rabian Hazan then did singing if I remember correctly and it took off and since then like they say the rest is history. Since then it became like Abalam said a number of years later more and more people came on board and then as we all know there was a VA established because some groups came and every group represented and campaigned for anyway uh just one I want to bring out personally I never heard anything personal from the Reb about this Indian came to make a disclaimer. Uh few days ago something was printed. I received an answer a written answer of the Reb about the niggan and the answer is printed. So I want to make sure that it is known that I did not receive that answer or any answer. I did receive the answers when I gave out like said like when when I gave in a tape with I always got you know like it was in those days the standard answers that everyone that you received when you gave something in if wished to answer. So those answers I received but the answer that was printed that I received and I was very moved by it etc etc the whole thing around it wasn't to me I did speak to the people in charge of it I believe it was an answer sent token I'm not sure because he also made an ignant that that year I can't say let him find out and make the correction but I feel It's my responsibility to say in public that it wasn't to me and as mira I said or I feel or I had this feeling and that heresy no one called me no one asked me so I've doubted somebody knows me so well to know what I was feeling in all those those years however back to to the topic what is the makeup of aid So the Reb said himself and I'll be extremely brief. I believe this was the only mention that I know to the Indian of making new in when the Reb said as that was also printed there was So this is a little bit of an indication what is when is composed and is accepted and sing it. So then it becomes soidim today have different styles of singing today are influenced by different styles and they come from different backgrounds. So if they compose an from such a background so maybe it's also could be considered but this is not the has to be based on what it always was when we see it as a vad and I'm not always I'm not stamped labeled as vad because I compose as Well, and the rule is when you compose, you can't be a judge, which is obvious. This year, let's say I did not compose. So, I took part in the decision making, which by the way, those that tried to break that did not were not did not have to be to succeed to break up So when we sit we hear a lot of everyone means well everyone expresses his but we want to hear something which is and this has to be number on with the words with the content with the meaning of the words the tenues have to express something as a composer I can tell you sometimes especially as a young man I get an inspiration whether it is from thinking whether it is from playing whether it is from singing whether it is by and different times right we have different times that we get inspired say Yes. And we get a piece of a makes sense. It's nice. But then you need to make a beginning an ending and sometime sometimes young people don't have the patience to put in the effort. So you make something whether he is or not and sometimes this is what breaks that this whole niggan cannot be something considered because there is a part which doesn't make sense and really one needs a lot of patience to go over what he his idea and make it better and better like I know especially those that were accepted I have a hav Rab konovo who always was instrumental in fixing up in in doing a little bit and a or a lot of work to make sure that the niggans properly. So it's not something that just happens. So when we're looking for to make a decision on a niggan really every part of the niggan has to express something has to mean something has to say something. So it expresses something and it has to be in connection with a capital really that makes sense. So in conclusion, the vote is about composing a niggan a nigunim in general and nigunim for capitl. Whoever feels that he has that talent should definitely develop it. at the same time get a little bit of mentoring from senior people that can guide a little bit in it's you hear young guys in Galite or Bim that have the talent but they don't have the patience or the vision of exactly how to go about it. So someone that has it definitely develop it and take it to the level where we can make that's something which is extremely important but as I said but remember the n is only the tool and the handle to which we connect with this special day to follow let's hope that Thank you very much. especially in different and and the we were left with there was afterwards also they were saying but not by of course the of and the it wasn't part of the original part of the but the last of that that made it they should sing it over again and again that it's a it's also So we speak about it sometimes also in the we speak about anyway uh I can't get anyway uh I didn't know everyone was that well versed in the services that you once a year. But anyway, uh etc., etc. But this is an that already spoke about. It's the pen of the of the soul, the heart, etc. So a big now to speak a little bit more about we have with us a great and the first one I'm going to call upon really is aid who actually grew up with the he was um from when he was a little boy and uh he was also uh father was not only very active in the yeshiva but was also a gaba in 770 etc. Sov himself was a very popular uh person. He was always in 770 etc. to the extent that that he he was known very dearly to everybody. He was very very famous but was there to experience uh so much throughout the years of the nas and and himself became the and had many etc. So without further ado because doesn't doesn't like to hear I'd like to call upon and at this point we start the cats and the panel of a panel means that this is a that's where there are microphones here also. So, Rabbi Minkitz, Rav Minkitz, if you want to interject also about the microphone here, Rabbi Lou also will share it and uh from there we're going to start with Rabbi Katz who's going to uh be sharing with us. He's going to talk primarily about but he'll also mention the earlier years a little bit more also and then and the and then we'll go we'll continue with the lids and then we have is going to share with us also something special about so without further ado uh cats everybody thank you so much for this beautiful introduction. Oh, interesting. The firstb was alsan. The Rebba set a in his in his room and the Reb gave out prior to that a list of people that will be called for the selected group of people that went into the and heard the years later there was no until which that was Reb walked into the fabbran holding at that time the first volume of was printed and the Reb came in holding the first volume of and together with it also aime which begins a frontb for the entire In that there was also something very special which is very very rare that the Reb said two that one that began with and another but why did this was a response to the who at that time was still behind the iron curtain and there was no communication of mail or any other types of communications phones and the responded to them publicly by saying very interesting and many many years later when the was sending to Australia to Melbourne Australia We have Rabbi Minkovitz he was had to be one of the and I'm sure he'll fill us in with many many more interesting details but in one of the years of who was involved of the yeshiva in Melbourne asked the bim should leave here before and arrive to Australia before pes and theb writes back to him did accept it. Theb writes back to him, what does he see a reason and a to leave here before? So even though we know that the rebba always would answer many many answers printed that pes what one has to celebrate with his family and be home but teaches us it's no contradiction you'll be home for pes on time but at the same time where do we belong From Niss we step into PES could sit and talk for hours and hours describing many angles of what happened here. First of all, we have the Zag and the Reb gave out his first came out before but something and the Rabbi came out with a pirod and we know how this pir what develop there's a phenomenal article written by Ra Ze on the greatness of the reb the expressions on the greatness but the fact is that the hagod is something fascinating which in the world there's so many hagod is probably the only safer which was reprinted so many times in Jewish history but at the same time this is something out of the ordinary when we're talking about the sagod the rabb Notice how good the fact I found this afternoon. This is the the edition of Tshin first edition. Second edition came out in it has additions which do not appear in the first in each one. >> Okay. >> It was Yeah. So in the there are which are printed on the inside on the inside of the cover and then on the back of the cover. Theb did not insert it did not change the format of the as it came out in tough and when things were added was added on the front and on the back and something which is sure many of you know it but it's definitely worthwhile to mention the brings there from that told the that when you go to open the door for so the told the called him by his name by his first name and told him was it the told the he should not publicize this what he's telling If we look through the secret of the you will not find say take which is all in one volume and you'll turn to the you will not find the which relates to is but the Reb is we find it and it's in the and the Reb writes in the said it but he didn't say it at he said it to the said it to theb and he tells him that when my father told me when told to the he told me that I shouldn't publicize and I'm telling you the same but the rebba loves each one of us and anything the rebba could treat us to he treats The Reb did not keep it as a secret and the Reb revealed it by printing it in the top of Giml edition of reminds me a reminds me famous story which the Reb spoke about who went to help a lady that has just given Earth uses the expression he went to make a yel a ya probably means a soup or some sort of a dish to treat to make sure that that lady who everybody wasn't sure this was him kippa everybody wasn't sure and nobody thought of going to prepare food for this lonely woman was has just given birth and it was the himself that went to prepare it and make it and when theb says also that this story was obviously kept kept as a secret. So the anytime he had something which wasn't which wasn't published and wasn't known, the Reb always treated us treated us and we should use it. It's of especially when we're talking about it on such a special day as today which relates to the PB throughout the entire spoke about it later there was always a second night of P the Reb would always speak about saying the aloud saying and saying I think the that's how it's supposed to be said but on the second floor of 770 there was a ye that would come every pesank cats cats he lived in Chicago and did not miss not a pes and not a and not a sukus but a reb He was an in the sense of very very real and and he would say the loud and and like I said it was a so there were many many mistakes in the of the really used to have a good laugh on it later that there were even times when theb would smile on certain pronunc pronunciations how we made them in the Hagod. Anyways, he was the the or word we should use for saying to God and his son his son Heshi Heshi of it's worth and he would ask to fear cases he would ask to fear cashes actually like he's asking his father but he said it loud and everybody listen to him asking to feel cash. He was a bin. He has he has a sister sister in Maryland and his father like I said was a very very he had his hum he wouldn't ride on yont he wouldn't write on yont he wouldn't go into the elevator I'm sorry thank you thank he didn't he didn't even use the elevator in 770 he didn't use either Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He would go next. Interesting. In the very early years of the ms like the labage, he took a checkbook, signed the entire checkbook, did not fill in any amount or any date, took this checkbook and sent it into the Reb. So that the Reb should make the decision what amount to fill into this sh and the that every before he would theb would go to the would call the bank of cats ask him if he has anything special that the Reb wants he should mention at the at the same time the Reb told him the amount which the check is going to be filled out for. He had some sort of a friendship with my father. So every he would come for a meal to our house. I remember it after M like would be 3:15 like around 20 to 44 to 4 he would show up. I remember hearing something very interesting with I don't think that it's and he told us that he heard this and which he had with that giving whether it was right before it was and he complained to the that his son Hashi is into a stamp collection. and the club licked them in his stamp collection and he's not and he's not up to his stud. He's doing well in in day school where he went to Inishiva in in Chicago and that the Reb told him that he should not interfere with his son's stamp collection and the Reb tells him stamp collection when theb left his parents I left it there and my mother told me later that they sold the stamps. The Reb's parents sold the stamps and she had they had to they had to live from this money for six months from the money of the stamps. I heard it from I was a young child, a young kid, but I remember hearing it authentically and he heard it from the Reb. It was either that very same day or a day before or two days before. It wasn't it wasn't much. It wasn't this was the m the told it to him and I I heard it from him a few days later. I think I have to share some time with my so >> not my cat was up there but he ask me if he spoken the other also will share with us the I really supposed to give an introduction Ra and but he's also he's also seek out from all over the world and etc. But who also is there is a finger community in place called Peach Creek City, Georgia. Significance of that I'll allow for a different over here. So I'll say and um we also There was one there was one on the second night of P in all the years till and it was already after the and you don't eat after the you don't drink after the so the faban was dry with nothing on the table nothing to eat nothing to drink and not only that but after f crisis of wine I would say about 85% of the people over there were quite uh high. Um and and then they ended up >> they told me that back there was coats and people were laying at the coats. >> I don't understand where the coats were but somewhere they were the coats were near the sinks. Near the sinks >> near the sink near the sink. It was a coat like a coat racks. But uh and the Reb would fab when the Reb fabang the Reb had his eyes open and when the Reb said the mimer, the Reb would close his eyes and the MA with a with a niggan. But in this fab and the Reb said the also with the eyes closed and the Reb said that everybody was uh they looked very much after a seda and those who were sitting could not control themselves. So the Reb himself most of the duration of the Fabenan had his eyes closed. So you could just imagine what the scene was like and the second night of People who were standing was it's hard to sleep when you stand and went in about 4:00 in the morning. So this was uh you know >> who started stay after the >> who started what the stay after. >> All right. So um basically it it seems that the Reb replaced the second pesan with but because started in a aud which was the year after the last second night of Pes the second night of Pesba would be of course in upstairs in 770 that's where the seda was then he would come down after the seder and have the faban. Now that the Reb was home, he was home. So the was really on. But that's not quite true. And the reason is because every single year there is not a year that from not one year that the Reb did not make some kind of a reference to Nissen and he did that by saying a mimer either the Shabas before Pes Shabas or the Shabas after Pes I'm sorry or the Shabas after Yal Nissen or on Pesak itself the second night of Pes or Pes or sometimes all in all the Shabas before Shabas after Pes the Reb spoke and would be the a from that year. How important was the sukim? Well, first of all, as Rabbi Kat said before that the Reb said the which was part of the capital of that year, but there were other references for example and Rabbi Fella made reference to this before. It was bay and capital B has in it the niggan. Anybody know beautiful old ancient song from and at the end of the Reb said the whole has passed and I thought somebody would to sing this niggan and he turned to Rabbi Krinsky and he told Rabbi Krinsky the one who who who drives me to the ten of the he should sing this start this niggan That's what happened. Now my grandfather Jaffa loved that niggan akin that was his favorite niggan when he was passing away. He passed away right when we finished singing that niggan to him. It was uh really special to him and he went over to some of the Mali monogam who were starting the nigun in that pan and he said to them I would suggest perhaps you should sing this niggan and they said what are you talking about I sing this niggan he said well it's from the and they said we don't sing such we sing more you know others it's not this is more and the said I waited the whole they should sing that niggan So the reb was on catch that of course we know that they should sing his niggan and Rabbi Fella said before that when the nigunim started which we'll talk about in a second when the nigunim did start they would sing that niggan every on the shabas fabans that would be the niggan which would with which they would start the reb would make kdesh and as soon as the rebba finished drinking r uh they would start this niggan the reb What Rabbi Fellow didn't say was that by hakus after the Reb's haka when he came back to his place always the second haka was always the reban on both nights was the reban that was the the seda the rebba didn't really have a niggan every year but in tin lmed I remember this very well in tin lmed around time not around time some of the bakim put together the and um what did I say? I'm sorry. And they sang was and no was in Alf was B was al was Bin was was alf and was so So, the end of and they put the these words to uh a common a Jewish uh you know song and by the way we have a kabad house and we used to sing alas or whatever you want they know man and they know Duo that's all Jews know that song so Denu and all of a sudden it came into labs and uh become We don't even realize it that it's the it's a and the reb when they sang it upstairs in when in the second floor of 770 when the reb was having the meals the suda some of the one of the bam I think might have sang it somebody sang it and the reb said that he liked that he he appreciated it and then um throughout the year from then till niss The Reb sang Kim many times. Reb stood to dance by Kim and you know since then which became one of our this was the really paid attention to that there was and then the four were made and then every year a niggan was made. I want to talk about though not just the niggan because we everybody talks about the niggan which was very exciting. Every year was an excitement and every year was something new and we sang it all the time throughout the the entire year. But I want to talk a little bit about the fabans themselves and I want to start with lammed because I was given the mems to talk about. So I go back to lamres. I'll go back to other years in a minute but was a very special year as we all know that year um the whole seda changed and was the first time the reb came actually downstairs to the Reb spoke said all one after the other spent hours at times but to come downstairs the first time the reb came downstairs was on to FBI was very short was wasn't more than 3 hours those days the lad was a Thursday night went on for six seven hours so have a fab for two and a half hours was very short but the faban was unbelievable and it hadn't happened since so that was a very big big year on of there was a fabbran short faban and then at the end of the faban After the Reb said the Reb out of the blue all of a sudden said just like that. You can listen to it. It is unbelievable that those three words the way the Reb said it the Reb made in a niggan like that was unbelievable and only on another thing happened in because the because the rebang again on Gimliss that yearn the reb started the Fbrangan with a mimemer and right After the Reb started the next the first by saying that we usually talk in Indian as if we're now continuing the fab and the every year on gimmel until Zion except for meal and meal the was the same year the same as this year. So there was the shabas and then Sunday was a gimlness and shabas giml was also the same as this year and the rebang shabas z the fabang also shabas in addition to shabas but a dollar did not on the shabas but every year there was agim faban and thegim fabans were actually type of what do I mean in tin in Alf was the first year the Reb that year the Reb said which you know if you have to talk about the Reb's the ones that you really know or the ones that really demonstrate the talk about a couple of others but goes in that category that's the the where the Reb talks about the med that says that the he was the one who says no mal I want to take the king I I marry the king I don't care about the and the all these other people are very important but nothing nothing is more important than the mel that is the m of since then the became an official time of the faban so the it went on the radio there were fabas that were on the radio those days before the videos came along which fabangas were on the radioisatim yniss yamos and those were called they in the in the inabish they were known as the big fabans because you can be sure that there would be a faban every single year on those days. The other days there were sudden vibration of when things were on the radio, the Reb was restricted if you to topics that people who are listening who are not necessarily familiar with with and all of that um they weren't familiar spoke stuck to different topics for example meal purim was on Sunday that Shabas Shabmini St. K is this year the Reb said the very famous of And the Reb said that what I'm about to say is talking about it on but on Puddin things are open to other people and it goes it streams out to to on the radio and who knows there'll be people who will not who only hear the question or only hear the story and won't hear the answer and they'll know about and they won't understand what what happened over there. So the reb was limited to what he could talk about on the radio. So Nissen fell into the same category that Gimliss now that was Niss that was an always a very pious lots of beautiful and very very leicb was in those times on on and we'll talk about those as we move on over was the first year not just on but also the truth was 100 years after but that was an it didn't continue until when every lick thing happened at the end of the said that they should sing ka kata of course is a pes but before they managed to start before managed to start singing the reb himself went kay he said that she sing it then he started singing it himself within about 30 seconds the reb started clapping kaya you know usually sing nice and slow the slow niggan it's a serious niggan and you sing it you sing it in hollow it's not one of these happy songs you listen to the audio of this less and the reb was clapping and the was really responded to that very unusual almost sounds like They're all surprised and it goes a few times a few times to sing it over. Then the Reb says a after the Reb usually sang a niggan before he left the Reb started to sing kaya before he left. But when he sang ka you listen to the audio the Reb broke down and cried while he starts singing kayata. That is unbelievable. Listen to that to the end of that faban kayes tin men was um was a similar kus to this year and the um the night of the reb came back reb went to the on reb came back from the and he asked if they can if he can go downstairs for night And they said that the the school was closed. They were they were cleaning it out for Pes. They couldn't set it up. So after Maidv they uh the Reb sat down in on his weekday place. They brought a microphone in because the doors were were closed by the tis but upstairs the doors would be closed. Opened up the doors and the Reb said ah that was really the beginning of the Hashem Hashem happened in Tish 6 months later. But then the Reb started a major stom about children moatza ball contest they made and he asked that not of pes he asked that there should be a big stom with kids that after the rebik also asking that there should be a to bring children to and all of that one it was I remember. >> Hold on. Hold on. There was not lame was not. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. >> Hold on. I'm getting to it. >> All questions are at the end of the session. Now, the next year was alf and me was on Shabas. That was the only year by the way that the Reb on the Shabas Pes and he couldn't you can't drink wine on Pes. So the Reb had water and you can't have and you can't have matzah. So the Reb had bananas on us. He can't he can't have had bananas and he had water. And then after the first theb said what's thema of me sitting here with with only I'm the one who's able to eat. No one else is eating. So he wants to give out the pers. But if he gave out the the three or four bananas that were on the table it wouldn't be he said even if he broke it to the smallest pieces that wouldn't be enough for everybody. So he gave it to the he should eat it on behalf of everyone else. So there should be someone else is eating some food. But me before that that was Shabas before that on Tuesday night. So that was early I'm sorry on Monday night early Monday night. I'm sorry on Tuesday night early was on Wednesday. The Reban on Tuesday night towards the end of that faban after the mimer the Reb came out with the mitzvah of safety for the children and the Reb gave all the and the and the clawing has to be in the on the can't come out of the old city of lion and how to make the certificate and he gave every single detail um for that s the next day was on Wednesday the Reb comes back and that night another early gimmel I'm sorry B Wednesday night and the reb the entire fab was all about the nothing has been done it's been 24 hours what has been done the entire except for the was about the and then the next night the only time that the ever by night was that night the truth is that was mim because it was Thursday night and and Pes was asked still was the only time that was in three fabans three nights in a row for the and all about the of the children was very very to the that was six months after establishing me the next year was we just heard before from 51 that Uh the new niggan was made. New niggan. The new niggan was such an unbelievable excitement. He he was he was ma to how what enthusiasm there was about that niggan and um something completely happened. We all know about the very famous here but and the was of Anybody what's wrong with that? He didn't say now there was also very unusual that's melt in a strong as a told the story of a man who was on the yacht and he asked to and he talked to the person and it had a very strong impact on that person. Mandalud was of course um uh the the uh um Tanyas again me in the of the second of wasam that year the first but in that second the said strange that a person should be sitting and talking about his own birthday and so the reb said when he was in they told a story of a who had a very position in a big city but he was a short guy very a little guy and so they said that the claer he was talking a short person but he occupied a gra so the reb was basically saying that in labavage that uh it's not about him it's more about the benal and the benal is a big benal the chair is a big chair interestingly that was the last time the reb on ydal niss because in mev yniss was on Sunday me niss was on Friday and the reb said he's fing on shabas ydf niss can never fall on a shabas. So there was never on the actual day of after tismas that was it. There was no more weekly. That was the last time there. Just one more point about the gimmel and the gimmel in meiml and again inshin giml the rebb said at the end of the after and after all of that the rebb said they should sing. In fact in fact the Reb himself started that somehow the Reb whistled almost every single time the asked to whistle doing Allah and then the Reb started bouncing around Mish making you know really heavy and singing with and me hey on your gimm it was unbelievable much more than that you hear the pushet screaming you hear singing with and like the olden days really really really heavily into it that was bali the the the um theme of you know did giml was let's go guys come on you know this was like more personal you know type of u type of feeling and z the rebb said that there should be a new the new uh neighborhood in line theb set up then in zion but there was no then the said so started which was after was over the Allah and turned right away around to to the whistle and then the hand and then the concertb loved that niggan because it has a it has a lot of eyes in it a lot of stom in it and the Reb wanted us to stom and make the feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel feel the enthusiasm and the and the uh and the inspiration. So we should go out and there should be should be it should be much more much more and much more than we should be to be able to together with the take it from just one more point I forgot one thing said the mataz why was that unusual well first of all the rebba had stopped a mime with a niggan for two and a half years. The last time before that was and this is secondly the Reb stopped saying in me was only Shabas and after Shabash there was no more until that was totally unusual. I remember going upstairs afterwards to the hanus and Rabiel was there and he couldn't contain himself with from he was he was bubbling over and um so I said to think you know why why this night why was this HE SAID it was all one that was the Nissen Gilly for that year. Sometimes it happened on Nissen. Sometimes it happened on Yimniss. But Le the whole week is the Reb's father's birthday all of this is all connected to so that before starts we should already be able to together with the Reb take from and there was a different so it's homework for the boys to look up I don't know for sure but another thing is that a lot of bram so saw that it wasn't memor and they made a and the yeshiv that should learn the contm that were coming out we know today as the memorial the memorial and after each one came out went to the Reb with a mount of Bram from every yeshiva that learned the Bal and there was a few times today in he's today in England leads England he got twice an answer and he wrote these very I don't I don't have it in front of me so I'm not going to say it but there was a a from but what I do want to add is that one at one time Rabbi Klein said Yeah, you got an answer in this. He says, "Don't worry, you're going to get an answer." That was a little bit before that. And and some people say that because the saw there was such a in learning about that those that said that that was also an answer on those that were increasing amount of learning about so this without further ado it's my privilege pleasure and honor to askit to be and I see over there too he's going to be talk about pes and there's a lot of stories >> and uh and uh without further ado also experienced this many many things firsthand. So it's a big for us to hear it and uh it's always a big beginning to hear Rik. >> It's not it's like you're there. It's not just like you could be there if you right now that every writes feel your right you could be at a place if you close your eyes you could be there he's going to take you there right now first is tomorrow we start saying so that's a special the coming of also Soishim. So then from England was there and he got up and he sang on the capital from England not the regular was and he got up and he sang. This is also what mentioned before about the hagodis that was printed the first the firstb made and the name was there later it came out again it came out again and it came out what he sus and then it came out again as was mentioned before this is what the hagod looked like so today it's hard to get these had to this is the The Reb had this at the I remember and I remember also you see the red letters over here they gave the Reb an addition the red letters are put on later. So at the sedb had the hag without the letters just said the word was printed that's but the the red letters were not the those days the print had to put it through the machine double process and also in those days the computer age and the type setting etc won't go into the difficulties of printing in those days. So the god looked like this which means the right page was a page from the directly a photo offset photo copy of the reburim were always on the left side except sometimes it added up like over here. So there was a lot of burim which went two pages across and then the next page again was on the right side and the left side. Now it's obviously the Reb didn't write his pirushim exactly mak to the amount of words that are on the right side. So many times it went over it. In other words, if you had to look for something here, it would could be on the next page or on the previous page because it was a full page here and a full page there. So it's very very difficult bish to say that if you wanted to follow what was going on, it was a difficult thing. We'll get to that in a second. But there was a surface that came out that came out like this hashmote. The original hagod was a page here. When it came out, whatever wanted to add. Today it's just with a computer. You just uh enter it where you want and the page moves up. Those days everything stayed the same. So the original pages pages anything that was added later was added over here. And also by the last page it says The over here was added a number of pages at the end at the end. And then was added a whole page over here. And every single thing that was added had to do with the starting was in the first. So was specifically no direct but was put in specifically. If you don't understand I'll just mention this year they asked me to speak about the I gave a a PowerPoint presentation I gave and I mentioned as you understand what's that we And you have a h you have the rooster twisting around your head and the horn is looking into the together with you. So the that's how much we understood being about the around the so anything we say I just tell you what it is and everybody can learn themselves but in the in the edition the Reb added an amazing thing that's printed over here and the Reb added from your Niss and was printed also say in the came out It came out in that and it says there to add the his and one of the was the the was also the of test. Now there was no fab in your alfn test. It was a yeas that Reb had. And the last that Reb had by the Alf. All right. Kazanovski in any case the he was told that not to always okay that had also the lastb mentions over there that is given overb it's given overb and and that's part is printed over here also had a good uh since the I got the look this way. So Giml which was the sem of Hashim I was done in Kel finishing off second year in ca and we're also involved then in the printing etc. So we decided to give him to the hagod but the hagod should be a hag where properly meaning they should be able to find the things that every page should have the directly to that page. So some pages have to be smaller of some pages have to be bigger etc. And uh some problems came around that the size a technical thing the size of this the width of this page is not the same as with this page. This page is wider. So even that was the asked the Reb and the Reb didn't say to enlarge the page. Leave the page as is. And in order that it should look the Reb said to add a frame to add a frame. This is the uh this aod that we all have today. Everybody knows this a it's been reprinted many many times. So this is the first time it was printed in such a way. So you can see the bur over here and over here it's a a shorter page. It's longer and the said to make kid which is like a frame to the and the even chose it. There was a few frames given in the Reb chose this frame to to make this frame. Once it was made, we added all the which actually which I did some most of the job. We had to find all the letters and the and letters before came out to dig up a lot of letters. We went to learn the uncle used to learn the and he had later he gave it into the Reb and the Reb answered. So he had Mish little set from the Reb. So we added them on the bottom of the letters it might say he saw and that's where it comes from that comes from the answers that were given mostly and then all the other things that came that came to our possession some some letters at that time that was somehow received or uh reached us from there only now we have two letters then we only had one we had printed one letter And in any case, this is the safer that came out when it was brought into the Reb brought into the Reb. And the Reb was very very happy. So finally a safer that is that you can actually find the directly on the page and the Reb opened up. I heard this from he said the Reb looked at this page the front page and the Reb looked at the last page. The last page finished off with who's etc. makes the was crying a lot. And the gave a look right away. The Reb said that the last word last finishes off with the words. That's what it says here. sighted in the Reb said you finish a safer but sighted the Could you imagine the Reb opened the first page last page and the Reb said they should was given in at nightb said at night they should still try to find to add something so middle of the night we finally got some stamps and every single safer was stamped as you can see over here says the stamp every single was was already printed already all the were printed and the asked We should add the words also I want to mention in we speak about the sed when we were uh children young we knew that as the reb writes in the minhogim and it's take taken from the u taken from the not only the reb is massed on the kaida. So everybody knew that you're not mass the mis on the kabad was based on what says in the thenshov the hog was being put together and in those days they didn't even have photocopies it was very difficult to get remember we used to have to get if you you come with some place like saviad you had to run to Manhattan and I remember the address was one liberty street wall street near world trade center wasn't built even and and uh and uh it was hard to get a copy. So when the the Reb was mia certain things they actually sent yat kesh to the printer and it came back smudged dirty with the print. It wasn't like today it was mish print with inkmutzik and many times this was in the summer punks I was there so I remember I went to the zakovski label growner gave us the uh theat kadesh to bring to balian printing on s avenue you know where it is you take the train this many a number of stops in east New York and we had mameish the uh the menhogim the sogim so many many yonim on the way we did find some place to make a photocopy it was white on black it wasn't so easy was a reverse but we stopped once we had in our hands we had to deliver it we couldn't steal it but on the way we made a detour and we did so I remember seeing that wrote the heart is printed have there shouldn't be a wrote and three dots three which means to fill did and that's how it's printed but the Reb didn't write the Reb wrote I saw I was holding it in my hand I think they even have a copy of it someplace printed now also some some they did also get hold of a copy they printed it up so this is a little bit about the and again the Reb used by the Reb used this and also the Reb had that he looked in on a regular basis but I'll get to that in a second just give a little bit of a feel of what happened etc. Pes the reb used to give out matzas and every every person came from all over New York City came to receive a piece of matzah from theb used to wish the reb gave and the matzah was baked. So the theb used to take for himself. I remember one year they said that somehow the Tishan was very very hot and almost all the mats got burnt and basically had very little for Pes just come and saw this hat for the for the story and the rest of the matas was used to give it to be given out for people who went stood online and they got misus and those brim were in charge of it who took care make sure those took care of it was the slowly on the whole thing he was up a whole night making sure everything those nurlik called and was the night before. So the used to go to the was mentioned before and the later years used to come back as we know that came back way after has to be done. So uh but in those days those days as strange as it may seem the used to come back on time one was a again I don't know but the reality was and to everyone's shock that you made me shocked to hear this that atel there was no lights whatsoever. The reb stood in the dark. If it was a dark day a cloudy day theb stood in the dark. It was a rainy day. The Reba got soaked. There was no cover. There was no gag. There's no heating. There was no air conditioning. Zero. Today it's hard to imagine such a thing like that outside also also. But when it got dark getting darker the Reb used to leave there was also the Reb it seems in those days was more try to there's at least one case that I know that the Reb stopped in a gas station on the way to and one time he stopped even I mentioned before the Bian printing printing my used to work there so once he was working there and he saw that the Reb walked there so what's going on over here guys were sitting by the line of type machines and the reb walks in and on the way it's on the way from the there's a a street called Sutter Avenue he passed by there and uh was getting the d over there and the reb used to come back basically for shalu most years was there on time shalu was today was the sukis they used to pull a pipe from the basement there was no uh no Mayan like which they had later. This I'm talking before. So they took just a regular pipe, the regular city water and they pulled the pipe and the went out to the today is the and uh the same procedure. We've seen videos of that later on when they when they dug the uh they dug the for the which is as you know it's in the driveway near the near the Reb's library. So from there they also slept water for for the uh for after was after was used to take place. He was the reb sold the all the years till he passed away. And one time I was in 770 it was night oft everybody empties out hanging around 77 was very almost it was very very empty and I was standing in the hallway with another and uh and I seem came out of the Reb's room and's roomm used to sleep and eat and live in 770 which today is known as the room and also the library of the in the last all the way behind there's a a library for the brim that used to be his bedroom and the yik room used to be his his kitchen his dining room and living room all combined in one and that's where he lived so he went back to his room and we still got back to chik in the hallway m I see the rebb is rushing down the hallway m is rushing walking very very fast very rare to see the reb walking fast, very very rare. And the Reb walks down very fast down the hallway and he was he moved to the side and the Reb was like talking to himself and he says just when he passed by I was standing another ber I think it was if I'm not mistaken standing together and talking and uh and he went into all the way to room and then he went back we had to find out what's so he went to and he said what happened over here so they said that the Reb didn't give him money from the money. You have to get money. All the should know about this. Okay. >> Yeah. The people had the should hang up the story. They said, "No, I mean I'm for a dollar." >> This was I think it was what and um next day was was the burning of the took place in the boiler room. Today you have no access after everything was locked up over there. So you the furthest you can get is still the elevator of all after the elevator he made a left. There was where the door is now. there was no door and you made a left all the way down to the boiler room and over there the Reb used to burn the in those days there wasn't uh a lot of pushing or whatever so you're able to go down and the Reb used to have a a big uh a big iron pole to spread out spread out the spread out no way should all burn out properly and then in the afternoon I remember this instruction Hey was also I was uh walking down Kingston Avenue was somewhere around 2:30 3:00 I said let's I'll go on 770 for a minute see what's happening so I go there's nobody there there's nobody there and uh I go near the Reb's room I see that the Reb's door is open the door to the Reb's room is open and I see the Reb standing by the side of his table his desk wearing was out from Shabas then and um saying the cider was open. And he was saying how you doing? And inside I remember was I know from the alter in those days and another few bim who were mass matas. They just came back from the bakery. They just finished the baking to give out for uh for kalucas out of pes and they were inside mada. So the be able to but meanwhile the reb was saying hey the so was a nice sight to see. The door was open this much. Mom is able to see inside the room. So, wait around. What's happening over here? After a few minutes, the bum came out and right behind them comes the Reb and the Reb for the om and the Reb is going into the zal upstairs and is going to the om. There's only one problem. There's I don't know how it's now in those days once a year they painted 770. I don't know they still do it nowish paint maybe today have to paint. Then in those days once a year pes so all the were on the tables and the everything was on the um the reb like this piled high to the sky as they say all the way up and the reb coming in there wasn't even a minion there was maybe seven eight people there together with the myself and Um the Reb is coming over. He couldn't even couldn't even get over couldn't get to the I couldn't put down the sid. So I ran over I think was on the other side before he went and um we started taking over this for him and then underneath was candle put the candles on. So we had the had to move back a little bit. We put the candles down five candles. He was putting the candles out lighting the mattress. Somebody ran downstairs. They found a bo still don't take off your film. We need you for a minion. Okay. So he came upstairs and uh and then the rebb as soon as he finished by the way the reban. The rebba said I was standing on one side on the other side. Every little thing that did for the rebu held the door open for the rebu. Then the rebba pointed remember with his finger like this because right now the om is the door. You know what I'm talking about. You know there's a door on the right side of the om in those days. Uh there's a basis. I don't think it's used there. That's that's over there. And and in the later years they made a door from the corridor itself and the hallway itself is a door before you go into that little area that had three doors. The middle door was the the on the right side was used to in our days we used to call it roomabad started and continued for many many years in that little room which was as big as office okay don't know how big it is okay so that's but it was open so if that door was open it was open straight to the door of the basis so the reb went to this and we knew that the reb is mahada that should be closed. So the reb pointed with his finger. So I went I ran quickly and I closed the door and come to us we got a minion and then the reb when they finished the reb asked send it seems other times also in theb was it should be 10 even though theb writes asbes and alterb got the plates it seems when he reb was that it should like to be bamished 10 people. In any case, then went it took a long long time. In the earlier years, there wasn't so many people and it went pretty fast. Later on, it took for many many hours. I remember that we were the the first group that went to Australia. We came back. Oh, okay. M right. Um, we came back. We came back uh before Pes and we're waiting online. I think it was like uh old time Abraham was standing online with everybody else. So the Reb said so they got everybody else everybody else together and the Reb gave each one of us a whole matzah which is very unusual used to get the whole matzah. This was something special but the was something very very special. They got a whole matzah and the line went to the extent that later on after after many people didn't get so a few people came over as if they can get after before you knew it became Israel that many people maybe came after but whatever it is it went went all the way after yeah yeah yeah many many people yeah went left also Um after m and after the at night the reb used to go to the bim in 676. You don't know what 676 is sure 676 parkway is between Brooklyn and New York. That used to be the yeshiva the dormatory and the used to go there and watch the kite etc. And then the reb used to say a perverter. He used to walk it always into the kitchen to see the babusta famous cook mush mush used to tell our guant says she cooked a whole year for free to get that from the okay there's many times things came up and once came up a whole about about the muza on the right side and the left side a certain door according to I think it was already written about it. So this I want to later on we are right now to come up and show you the right upstairs >> 1449 also and then later than that >> and but I remember also the Reb went with the >> but went with the ka >> what the made the one year one year one year so the to eat they ate what today is the kill then used to call toban whatever name they had in those days and the remember they put up lights all the way up a lot of steps to go up and and later later years the went to those afterwards and they went to and then to free and and the Russians and when the Iranians came for the for the for the for the girls separate and all this took a long time obviously and by the time the rebba started to say it was quite late so soon as the rebba left the yeshiva the bakim Those book wanted to get to this to be by the reper to be the mameish on time. So they made mish express. They make they made it express and they came to was you eat the egg and then was the right after that. Okay. So and then came and they used to get the hashem to mish the beginning of before the came in because it was open to everybody but it wasn't a big crowd you have to understand in those days here in crown heights and there was very very small and yalite were busy at home and even bim who ate at home etc but later on later years became a little bit more because there was tuks there's one kuts one after the other etc etc so they're able to uh to make it by the sed now Um mentioned before the reb used this a reb used and um when the reb us the reb mentioned I think he told that he's going to make sure to say a little bit louder you couldn't hear a word basically till the first part the first part they couldn't hear you can everything's written up used to read every single part and the used to eat mish many times is coughing Besides besides squeeze out the motor all the juice came out like an egg a piece of motor hard motor which wasn't even ground the coughing from from the from the from the and the matzah also took quite a while to eat the matzah and um the reb said that he's going to say it a little bit louder. So the second part of the of the uh of the sed was quite quite loud and most years was that way anyway after every single in the beginning he said very fast the second part was very very slow every single every single word they can't said and um since it's the first night and since the reb came very late because of mentioned before after the as they say. So, and there was no uh there was no uh watch or clock in the room except a little little tiny clock that was on a thermostat. The thermostat was this big. The clock was this big. Remember a number of times. But by the way, the Freda GBA's place was uh the chair was there. They used to put a board on the table because the table that they have, many of you maybe have been in the room and I I went in there the first time I went and after that I said doesn't look normal. This table looks small. I asked him so 11 it's the same table is the same table. I said can't be cuz so many people sit around. He said they used to put a board on top of the table cuz they had a minion sitting sitting around sitting around around the the table. So the rebi used to ask many times I stood behind the rebalikm and the rebb turned around I uh I was a younger bak I didn't want to stick my nose in so uh others they used to run over on the side they used to say it's 12 minutes you know depending when the was if they change the clock didn't change the clock so and so right away the didn't start eating till everybody received a portion and as soon as The Reb stopped eating. They also had to stop. See? So the Reb used to take but the fish the Reb ate was full of salt like hot. You couldn't even see the fish. Salt covered the whole thing from top to the whole top. And later on the chicken before the was also mentioned there was a soup that was served in a a big bowl from the alterb. It's a thing that they have from the alterb that some things they had that got lost it seems. But this the mameish came from this man of Alter and the Reb used to take three three big uh spoons and put it into his into his uh plate and everybody else took it the same way and um and the Rebi used to eat but the Rebs ate just a little bit some ate nothing to go quick and everybody had to stop. People say to them many times went away pushed hungry. So he wanted to eat something out of because he went away pushed once he wrapped up in a napkin. He wrapped up a chicken and he put it in his pocket even saw looked at him after you can't eat anywhere. This is even regular yont was a problem stopped eating. They stopped eating and then soon they said it's five minutes. So that became a had to start and had to start had to start right away and then the reb had it between two pillows that that on the chair next to him. Nobody sad. Rashag had a little pillow but he never he never was never mive and just the reb was mason. He took out took out from that took out that came. Um now uh asked to mention also about between the two pillows on the chair next to the Reb. The Reb sat on one chair next to the Reb was another chair and the back was this way like this like this. The back was this way. There was two pillows in between the two pillows. I think it says the lotion that's what it says the lotion that's how the used to keep it used to break into five pieces and that's it took out a um as mentioned before we came back from Australia then and um we came to the sed and u one of the saw was standing right behind the and the rebba turned around asked So he moved away. He didn't know who the Reb is talking to. So the Reb said, so he said, "Yes, you have you have to tell the truth." Tell him. Yes. Finish. That's it. The Reb didn't say anything. Uh the next day uh we figured if the asked in the second day, you can always take the in your pocket. So that's what we did. We washed and in the house we washed. We had a at the bench in 770 and they took a long and so take care of it. So again the Reb turned around and asked again. So this time he said so the Reb took from his that's laying on the on by him in in the in the the bag that the Reb had the napkin and he added matzah from the table some more matzah. There was five. One of the one of the one of the bakim was was not there. They went to eat. They lived in the Bronx. They went to the Bronx. But there was five were there. And he uh the Reb gave each one each one the Reb gave from And the Reb said that they have to sit down. The Reb said they should bring five chairs around the table. was noted of this lemish, five chairs of hagodis and and cesis and to make sure that they uh that they uh they have the arborasis and the wine etc etc whatever whatever whatever they need and and the uh asan and the reb looked a few times the pushing by that time was already pretty pretty tough and uh basically we had to sit on a chair people wanted to stand little by little we were basically pushed out as little by little, further and further. So the Rebel looked and then right away it came back. As soon as the Rebel looked everything had to come back and um the next this was the first night the first night of Pes that that year was tremendous pushing and there was such pushing that the bottle of wine poured out on the table and the watched it looked at it to us. I was very unhappy. So uh the next day it was given over in the name of the mosquito that the bim should not come in because what happened last night nobody should come in but then they decided that the kudim that's they should come in because the going away etc. So they should come in so the bim are allowed to come in as for them and we came to the door and the door was locked. You go to the side door that the middle steps today they have a today they have a a gate over there after but then you're able to go up upstairs you knock on the door ended up in the kitchen and to go in and knocking on the door nobody opens the door then one of the came in so I told him to ask maybe Rash could ask the if they came from Australia they can go in so asked the and the said what's the sh what's the question so right away they let us they let us in and then This thing what I mentioned before was what the Reb said what the Reb said was about was then um also at that by that by that the Reb said was saying the Reb said it three times three times he said it like this tremendous later they found out that there was The bomb that fell in the Sinai where the Israeli soldiers were that could have killed Mameish on mention was Mameish exactly at that time was mish that happened and also if I remember correct I think was that by that the pouring back of the wine the was a thing which is beyond beyond understanding I mean this is maybe you read about it there's no videos of it the reb used to take the leu pour it back in the bottle. So you add a little wine, you pour it back in the bottle. That's what most people do. But the reb poured from the bottle into the le into the reba back then back into the bottle. I'm not telling any specific because nobody knows the and then it was back into the le back to the bottle by itself. Then the reb took from the tets that's underneath that the wine was there. put it into the le and it went back into the rabbis back into the bottle back from the bottle maybe 50 times it went back and forth like this 50 times it's mindboggling 50 times and to some b I remember once all they're going to crack the code they say you know they're going to find out what's going on over here so they prepared a whole bunch of different color papers they had a blue paper and a red paper and a yellow paper was this one was They a lot of papers. No, no one knows what's going on. Trust me. Didn't figure it out. And I don't know if every day was even different to remember exactly the same. There was an game and people seeing and the Reb was back and forth. The Reb's bottle. The Reb had the bottle a bottle of wine. The Reb kept it on the floor. The Reb always took care of himself. Nobody served the Reb the wine. The Reb served the wine himself. And then after after the said that was right in the beginning that was the song for the was brought in brought in it's not original song that's whatever said developab Okay. Yeah. Okay. Just when we were in take two minutes we were in the said that we should make so each got got one safer. I wrote up uh three clim what if it says whereas you don't have to put it in three clim what to put in what not to put in I sent it into the added a fourth cl so the three and but something had to come out to come out right away right away right away right away and wanted was going on called in the the people on the okay good okay good insured Good, good, good, good, good. >> Good. >> I'm sorry. Okay. >> Okay. So, upon him called he asked. They told him so good. A few hours later, he calls back and he says Niss and make the long story short a little I wrote up the whole thing and I put it on the wall in the a few days later came to the kill used to stay in the kill check it out and walk comes down from the steps and I put on the mid and a killer they're selling baby carriages or renting whatever they want and there's this mid I had the Reb came down. He went over to the mid and he reads this letter that I wrote and in the middle the Reb starts laughing because I wrote over there sayb read it himself. So, thank you very much. Like I said, he took us there. There's a bus that's going to the oil. I'm president in Kingston and Amen.