Farbrengen Hei Teves , Rabbi Moshe bogomilsky - 5782

and sometime we signed was who worked in the and so the would send letters in the name of in fact it's interesting to note being that mentioning this there's a lot of letters that were written to Z and these letters are all signed why were the letters sent to Z was learning in Thea the famous m in Europe Z registered himself as a why did he register himself as a because in Thea there were a lot of people that came to Le over there that came from so his inion was to make a c to keep a c with these people to keep notice of their of the contact of the genealogy with but over here he sort of um he snapped the same liman sna he was the librarian that built up the fre the's library and he knew every CER that was in the library he didn't have a catalog or anything but he knew be safer that was in the library exactly where it was in fact at the times when I learned the 770 as 770 I remember this particular story we were learning bakama and there's a Bama called yesu and I want to I wanted to look up something over there so I'm all there was there wasn't the library of in 770 there wasn't at all there was a just you know the modest not some some but it wasn't really a library the first library in 770 started my brother he's the one that started the the first library in 770 how did he start the first library in 770 there were the the the V Med in 770 had two rooms to it there was the big room and there was the small room that's attached to it by the doctor these two rooms were used the small room was the operating room and the big room was the recovery room in fact I still remember in 770 there was a a closet like a medical closet over there there was a tile wall and a medical closet where the doctor held this instrument they had to work with later they took there was um it was a a coat Closet in that little room and that's was the first start of the library and then later had two rooms that were given to them in in the back two rooms in one room was his Shear room where we'd come in for a shear and then in the other room was a bed where he he would sleep over there he lived over there so when he got on in age it was he found it difficult so he decided to move out to his daughter and that room became vacant when that room became vacant so we that time we made the library in that room but still it wasn't an extensive Library well we wrote letters to M asking them to give this for we bought it wasn't really a real type of Li so wanted to look up some the safer there were there were two choices one choice was to go to the the was his name was he lived on President Street where fre is today and he had a tremendous Library tremendous Library so he had a tremendous library and he was very receptive when the B came to him he would enjoy to sit in with the B and give some uh some refreshments or GL a tea or whatever that was one answer and um or you could have asked for theer how did you how do you ask for the saer so when you walk into 770 the first place the first room to your right is the America's office and in that America's office there were two desks there's the first first desk and then there's a second desk in the desk on the in the desk sat ROV and on Rab's corner of the desk there was a little like a little type of a I don't think something something a container to put for if you want to give something you left it over there so you could over there you could also leave a note for that you want to have the following saer and the next day you would get the safe will be Ling over there no Z been had a little Med medical cabinet over there so to over here he snapped he snapped and he cooperated with this be that he should have access to the library so they notice the The Librarians noticed that there's a lot of spaces coming up in on the shelves a lot of empty spaces on the sh and it kept getting more and more they they couldn't figure out what's happening till finally they put in a camera and the camera picked him up the way he walked in over there and the way he took SW him and the way he walked out and M who it is did was the first one that was told about it and she told it to the and that's when the made the big uh tumul about about what's going on because that ever first tried peacefully that they triy to talk to and should talk to him and they never said if it's not going to work then I'll have to come up publicly and unfortunately it didn't work and it came out publicly now there was a problem the problem was they knowed spaces but they didn't know what was missing because liman as I said had the library in his head he didn't have a catalog that on this shelf is this on this he didn't know so really when there so many spaces he didn't nobody knew What's missing and this's the here's the story how I managed to find out what was missing when he took the swm he had no idea what the swm were and what the value of the swm were he just knew that they that they valuable swm and before I go any further I just want to make it very clear he did not take any he did not take any and he he did not take the that that that's established that's known but this wasn't H the is suitcas they were laying in a suitcase over there if I get a chance I'll get that out also but he didn't take the only that he took was is a valuable saer because people bought it for in fact in the that was printed in America in in the 1940s writes there's a letter there from the where he writes about the of having the saer in your house there PE people would even buy an old and cut it up into into pots and sell the parts separately so there that was the only sa that he took and and he uh he sold it to somebody he sold it to a guy I think the name was Schwarz some dealer from Mara and he was supposed to send him now he did not want to take for the sale of the SW he didn't want to take cash only a check a bank check or private check not cash and he gave everybody a receipt for the safer for what he bought he gave him a receipt that should be that's why because he he felt everything should be legal in case ever ever any trouble and he take cash you know so right away it become suspicious why did you take cash and this person came special to buy the and he was supposed to pay him I think $188,000 for the and he went but he didn't have he had cash with him but not so he went back that you and he went back that you and he was supposed to send him a check and then that shabas that ever came out the whole Tumo that they ever made so he called up my cousin and he said I'm afraid that this is from the and he backed out and it wasn't purchased okay that that this is all parenthetically speaking once he got the SW there were a few hundred SW there two gft one gift is 400 SW and one gift is 500 something s so he wanted to sell them now how do you sell very simple idea there's a a an auction house called Christies so he went to Christies and he asked chrisis if they'll take these from to put them on o I don't know what stories he told to M he didn't told them the the true story where the SW come from maybe he told the same story with the with the old man in New Jersey that died and had but they were if something told them that don't get involved they didn't want to get involved now he stuck with the SW so what do you do so when when they make an auction they also make a a book a booklet together with auction describing every Lot number every everything that's in the auction with some description about it a short uh write up about the item in the in this book that they give out so on right in the beginning on the first or second page they list over there their experts companies but they have yish experts that they um that they're the expert that know these things so in there were listed two experts one expert his name was Idols e d i l TZ idolist another expert was katsman catsman is a is a big in swm and uh he he's knowing today I he's KN in the field everyone knows legs and cats so he still alive huh he still alive yeah yeah yeah he my cousin my my mother and his mother was were two sisters so um he contacted these people and wanted to get some information from them so he called if you look at the list idolist is with an e and c's with a K so idolist L the first and Casp was the second so he called idols and he said the idols he asked them do you know anything about this and this sa she said yeah I know about it I got to I got to look it up you know this and that you know there there swm that that write about about the swm there a SW there SW WR and he asked him a few things and everything was the same answer the answer was I got to check it I know about it you know it's safer and I got to check it out no and said now supposing I want to hire you are you available for higher he said yes he said what do you charge he charges $100 an hour okay good okay then he calls katsman and he asks katsman the same question do you know anything about this sa so cat telling him which print are you talking about the print that was there or the print that was there you know and I a few him that every that he asked them C knew about it but knew details of the saer he says the catsman are you available for hire yeah then what do you charge I said I charge $40 an hour no so can he isn't crazy be I mean he did he did crazy things but he's not crazy so you have two people that and one knows more than the other so he hired katsman and he met up with katsman that um that for every sa that he sells so he'll get also a commission for it now let's get back so now cats now is involved that but there was a big problem you can't get back something if you don't know what's missing if you you know what's missing so you could look for it to try to find it but if you don't know what's missing you can't get it back so no one had a list of what was missing so I said the catsman laa do you have a list of this swum that he took he says yes I said you have a list will you give me the list I'll make a copy of it he said he said I'd love to help you but I can't do it he said why can't you do it he said because if it ever comes the list ever becomes public and he'll know that it had to come from him from katsman because no one had the list besides katsman so how how could it's like a breach of confidence with your with your client so an idea I said him look he worked to for an office in in downtown Brooklyn I said you know what I'd like to come to your office and I'll sit you give me a desk I'll sit down over there and I'll rewrite your list I'll rewrite it by hand not only will I rewrite it by hand but I'll write it also not in the order that you have it but what what you on on page one will be on By Me on page four I'll mix up the whole order so no one will ever be able to suspect that it came from you he agreed to that when he agreed to that so I got this list was a few pages some 400 for and I brought it to Rabbi Groner and Rabbi Groner right away now this in the americaas it's the worldwide organization and the the head the the worldwide headquarters but they didn't have a fax machine in the office so if they wanted to fax something fortunately show him he had a fax machine in his house so you had to go to his house and they faxed it right away the copies of of the list one copy was faxed to England to fiveish vogo and one copy was fact that you so to uh SCH why was it facts to these people yeah should you have to understand these items are a specialty item you know you can't go into any saer and buy an antique saer but there are special dealers that they deal with antique SW so zurin happened to be a dealer of antique SW so they figured that he will know who may have bought such but now they have the list and fiveish V knows deals with G he knows people also in England that are aream collectors so he'll contact them and through him and through zurin they will get back they'll be able to get back that's how that was the first break so to say in in the case of the now in New York being that I'm working together with catsman so he introduced me to there used to be on on Crown Street there was a ro by the name Goldman that had was called the night pestov the night pestov once printed a I think it was called I forgot what it's called they printed a and his son is a dealer of anti so his son agreed to cooperate and he gave me a a few swm that he had which he um had the the bill of sale for them also so those for them I took them right away and I paid him cash for those for because he he wanted to get back his money now there became a question the question was he had also other SW which he sold already and he made a profit on them so the question question is if he goes and gets them back from the person that um if he bought the sa for $1,000 and he ended up selling it for $2,000 so he will give that person back his $22,000 and the person will give him back the saer but the question is could he keep the $1,000 profit or does he have to give that up also this for that he didn't sell okay he was ask him I didn't make any money on it so you give me back whatever I paid for it but there for him that I I I didn't I sold and I made a prophet what's with the prophet that those he wasn't interested to go to get it back and lose the prophet also how do you deal with those F what happened was at one time in the early stages Lael gr asked me if I know maybe wants didn't go into the question of you know want just pure to who does this for belong so I said to him yeah I know I I have such a of and I went to Williamsburg in Williamsburg there was a yid who passed away um quite recently quite Rec mean maybe about three years ago Z that was a and his name was the official hashit official hashit was the he Liv on 90 R Street in the project over there he was the the he he called himself he was in Europe yet Europe he was called the and in America he was know as the he was the cin by to die I happened to to had a contact with him I had some shers once so I um I I went to him in fact this this my cousin of mine knew him and he uced me to him so uh I went to him and and when I went I went to him two times the first time I went to him I asked Mal sh to come together with me why did I ask to come together with me because you know I didn't want to be alone so we uh we came to him and I I told him the story and I said that would like to know I think what he said to me was me K Morgan that was that was that was his answer the next day I came back to him I came back already alone and he tolds me I think he wrote I think it wasab I don't remember right now but his was the following he said that a husband and wife get married and the wife brings in some things to the into the marriage that's this fun it's called is the is that the the Goof belongs to the is and the ball isus now he said what happens if the if the woman gets a yusha during her marriage during the marriage he said I'm not going to go into the question of he said that that's not question he said says it's considered it's considered is the theof belongs to a woman and the B Isis what Theus could use them so if the the husband wants to use the in this case the SW wants to use the SW so this is is his to to use Vis then could she sell the she can't s if she sells the he can take it he can get it back in this case you're telling me that want to have the the wife who's the daughter there's only daughters over here so they but it was I can't sell that was his first son now that this question came up about the prophet for the dealers so we decided to go back to him we came back to him and he P him that the dealers should get the prophet why even though there's a d that somebody sold sto stolen property you could take it back from him and and he loses his money even the kind of loses his money but that's Al when it was known that it was stolen property but in this case over here Barry did not consider this stolen property he considered that it belongs to him nobody knew the whole story where this for conf from I thought it was a and so in this case there's no on the and and they entitled to a prophet so I had to give him uh back his uh the the the money the what he he brought me the the swm from the people and he told me an amount that he that he paid and I uh and I straighten out with so I I was involved in swm I don't exact number of the SW but it was a total of 20 about 21 or 22 or $23,000 I don't remember that I laid out in cash and RAB wouldn't pay me back in cash but he paid me back my check and I I reported an income tax that it was from a sale of some valuable books that I had so this was the the first part but then there was a people want to stop the E [Music] something but then there was very interesting story that happened there was um this Mr idolz who is also an expert on swm he uh he also bought SW and sold SW but he didn't want to the beginning he didn't want to work with me when I spoke to him say he had no interest to get involved in this but so happens it's a an interesting story a a a in in England a big forgot I got to look up his name has a daughter living in Manhattan now idolist besides being a an expert for for the auction house was also an auction was also a um an expert for a G there was a g in New York over here by the name of lwi jesson lwi jesson was the president of of shic Hospital in AR big of I happen to know him how did I come to know him cuz he had a company in Manhattan know as Philip Brothers it was a company trading and I used to give a Shear in that company that's a that's a story itself how I came to give a share that company so I called called him up and I asked him by any chance can I send you the list and check if you bought any any any of these one came into your collection and he called me back and he said if he got back this sa he got back this sa this saer be happy the rest of for is not the he said but he didn't buy he didn't get any of these for but this this G from England he was Vogal told him about me and suddenly mentioned that I'm that I'm having trouble to uh to deal with this guy idolist so uh he said the P the stuff was that V say he contacted his daughter and his daughter contacted Jess son and Jess knew the and J told him that I'd like you to cooperate with this rabbi bami so he gave me a call and he said uh I have a few swum are you interested in the SW I said yeah definitely problem was one safer that he had he had he had a few SW I don't remember the names right now but one CER I remember was an Amsterdam now what was the M with a Godus the M Godus was today this for boys and whatever Shak for girls and the girls are are learned so when it comes PES by the S the table and you discuss the the girls also can participate because they they also know the things the girls and the wives didn't know anything all the the wives knew how to run the household and the girls grew up in the household and learn from their mother how to cook and how to sew and how you know to do what and everything so they rich people used to get an artist that the artist should make pictures in their and you have pictures in their so you can sit by the table discuss the pictures so you had way to if it was it cost more money so the um this this a was was printed in Amsterdam must have been about 200 years old and he tells me that he uh he he he bought it that it was bought Barry sold it for $1,700 and someone bought it off him for $4,700 and he bought it from that person from the middleman and he got $5,200 okay question is how do you deal there's no receipts there's nothing if any if you go back the receipts the receipt is $1,700 and and he doesn't want to lose his his money well he he he laid out and so I told you so said that there is theising didn't say what would be if someone bought it and and and and uh and and and for second hand already and made a profet flipper yet if there's a flipper what happens how do you deal with that so I I [Music] think know so you and so I said to him who is your love he said my love is Masha K I said very good I know I know I know Masha very good let's let's meet by so we met the one evening by and uh he came with the with the A and I gave him his 5200 and Masha Khan wrote a letter to the re that by Me was uh bami and Idol and people and the sa was was made for for $5,200 and he signed his name Nas Ben his mother's name very very much that was very nice of him after this sale took place so the Masha says he can't understand it can it doesn't it doesn't make sense to him so I said to ra I'll tell you a bigger he says I said to him there was another that that other was sold for $150,000 huh yeah what's the m the m was the other was known as the kit a kit was the name of an artist and the Americans reprinted that that particular a and uh there was known that there were six copies of of that a and there was a person in I think in Switzerland that he was a collector and he had three of the theas and when the the dealer know what what what this what what the this buyer is looking for so say a shrew dealer got a hold of this person I got another you have no you have four good money by this person was no problem and he agreed to PID $150,000 for the when heard this saysed 50,000 for so okay let's take a little [Music] break so we go the the song all the in English the vict of the swm AL about the SW I I I hope people not uh be upset but I'd like to say that I think that there was another thing that that have to look at it a little bit different there um there a vot by PES we call pesak so they ask why in the and why do we call it so there's a t I think from that he says the following that the Y are praising the aish and the aish is praising theid when the is praising the what was and they went out said the go is so that's a praise of the Yen the yiden on the other hand Don't Want To Praise thems they want to praise the aish what's the praise of the that other words they're praising the talks only about the SW but I think it could be said that there's much deeper Victory than the the are valuable SW but there's something much more what's what's much more the much more that that ever personally had a victim person dominion over there I I I mean I I I I can't say that I didn't know bar I could I was able to identify him but I don't think I ever spoke to him but um I don't think that he was he was there's no question about it but I think I don't think it was a toal in other words what he did what he did was calculated what what was he calculating he was calculating that the three gra his grandfather passed away and now there's there's no there's no malal M for his grandfather no one is is qualified to be a m with his grandpa even though he knew very well who the rebba was and theba spent time with him learning and also in secular studies he knew very well but he he held his his grandfather Grand so therefore he figured that there's Thea and theha the re had no Sons only daughters and the son Yash but when there's no Sons the daughters Yash said he needed money so him and his mother made a decision where his mother said that you need money go downstairs take a few and you have money but take a few take a few okay now I'm sure the people over here sitting here are saying how do you notice it sounds very interesting how do you notice so I'll tell you on what I build it after his mother passed away after she passed away she was buried in a cemetery that belongs to the she went before before she passed away he went together with her to the moner and they is that they they sell a grave a burial place on this Cemetery so for him they didn't want to give but for her they gave okay then afterwards she passed away uh I think the r was on a Friday if I'm not mistaken so afterwards he was sitting shiver in his home in M New Jersey so we decided there was a an indication from the to do it that we decided that we'll go to him and will try to convince him to transfer back his mother to the C the when they bought the the cemetery in mono so the purchased Graves opposite the the oil where his mother is buried over there where abon is buried over there and there was a grave over there one more grave one of the graves over there that's not used was for her it was for the B so we went to [Music] M New Jersey who's the Wii the Wii was from the is Rabbi SCH Fox you remember him he was a Rab in Thea he was and then then was also a member ofish the M of the and I was the driver and I'm also a member of so we went four people we came to m in New Jersey and it wasn't a type of shiv house where the doors open we had to knock on the door to be led into the house when we knocked on the door so his wife answered the door she let us in and she I hate to say but she wasn't a a nice person okay you know there's a there's a word that they have in English SS sort of B but I I don't want to say that word and U and she gave us like a sh you know and we just didn't pay attention that we disregarded her and we came into the house there was a living room over there he was sitting ship in the living room and he um there were two people there a husband and the wife that came there to be they were talking you know we were quiet the whole time except that I don't remember what it was but the husband that came to beob had a certain question in a mishna and I answered that question don't now you have to know he knew he knew Rabbi FS how do I know he knew Rabbi FS because he said no Rabbi FS told the St that in he was assigned to learn together with and the tested them in Yus Lear Yus the tested him F and be together so he knew R folks um after the two people left so again she opened her mouth and he told her to please leave the room to go upstairs you know they have to it's a double two4 house you know and we started a conversation the conversation basically was around this inion about bringing his mother to Kuda in he spoke to us very politely I must say very politely very well thought out and chosen words and he says to me he says um def maybe we could work it out now what was the problem his problem was that he was afraid that if she'll be buried in in mfield you know the amongst the garbage over there do do worse things so he said that another mean to say like if the will tell him that don't worry I will take care of it be it be okay and the conversation went back and forth and back and forth and then he says at one time he said you know we could work it out and I said to him you know that that that can't H that's not going to happen so the only thing he said to me was like you know the is not going to come to call you so he said like I also have my uh my my things you know my myis but if you listen to the words that I said now he said two very interesting things he said in other words it's not cuz he didn't recognize the re as the re as I said before he felt that there's no the re is not the why so that's why he felt that yha comes into place but if say he would recognize that as the Y wouldn't even come at the place he would realize that the re is the B just like he wouldn't take from his grandfather and he can't take from the m so that that so even said one time as I the B state that when had called in the people he said I make the ble and when finally when the ruling came out from court the ruling wasn't just that the like like like she said that that the when she was uh deposed so she said that the so that that's it that that this Mish put a sort of a question on the and onever whatever his goal was during the Nas and the came through through the course that so that's why I say that there's something much deeper that we have to think about not not just the SW which is a very important thing of not minimizing that at all but there's just like I said when so we as ceders have to think about the other part whichever doesn't talk about not going to say it's my you know wouldn't talk about such a thing but it is a victory for that we have the and the victory for seen that was declared that he is the he's the M he's the that they kept talking about all the years so when did I travel after youas so after I brought back sum SW I always before I would travel to California I would write the note that I'm PL to char to California and the would answer said should be so said to me why do you got to write the and get the answer why didn't you write the that you spoke to and you spoke to frin different heads over there and you ask for so I followed his advice and I wrote the note to the re and usually the answer always was you know Oscar that was the the common answer this time when I sent that AB a note that I'm 2 to to California I got a a big answer an unusual type of answer I I I have the written copy of what the what the label wrote out the answer and the answer one as follows like when when I wrote that I'm planning to do my trip for so the underlined other words saying to me you want to go to raise money for the same one that you helping with the SW so it does it's not something that you could read and then he writes is still is still actual whoever does not give back [Music] so I have remain and then the didn't go told I should wait here he didn't want me I should travel in the N9 days so wait during this period came the connection from England with the the man name in English was Jack l a big that was collector and his daughter was a friend with jesson and just son connected to with Idol that he should work together with me and that's how I I managed to get back another few s by saying here that week that's one thing not inter the thing was Barry was not fo and he knew that supposedly he wins the case you never know what what the judge could rule suppose he wins the case what are the going to do you know what they'll do they'll take out all the valuable brought them from the library or all the value books of them and they'll uh they'll say it was never here so while the case was going on he made an application to the court that he he should be allowed to take an inventory of the swm that are in the library that are in the fre the G's room and that are in the library and the the court accepted his application and they ruled that we have to let them in to take an inventory and catsman should be the one that should go long to take the inventory so they said the the judge said as long as they can take it take a day take a few days but that they come no no it's the court rulle that so they they came to take the inventory I said before that he didn't take any he didn't take any and there was a a conern that he took the B and I said it was verified that he didn't take the B to how was it verified before he went this this thing had to take place so Barry told katsman who supposedly was his agent he said listen when you go to my grandfather's room I want you to ask them that they should open the closet and take out he he used the word chamadas chamadas means suitcases and they had there were three suitcases over there or two suitcases over there what in it in in it they kept many valuable things and also and it was kept in these suitcases that whenever the fre would travel he always took the suitcases with him they didn't leave them over in the in the house wherever it was it was in Europe wherever it was he and also he told them that one of the chamadas you're going to find a a letter there from the a handwritten letter from the Al and the hand from Al the the marash gave it as a presence to his son that had two sons one was the and one was okay but one was the older brother theor so he says and and theor gave this as a letter as a present to the fre and the fre was very meticulous if he got a present for someone or he bought something he would write when he acquired it and how he acquired it it was present or he buy it whatever it was and on this letter the fre wrote why was he telling him this the but the I think didn't mean to say that he took the B to he could have taken the B if he kept going on what he's doing there there's no end to it but by by by showing this he wanted he wanted to show that he didn't take any of and he didn't take the that's what he want to show he also wanted to show that s don't necessarily belong to the re Mar should have given it to the re rash not the not gave it to is that you divide it up some I take one piece you take one piece and you see from this letter he wanted to prove that there's nothing wrong he's he's entitled to take going with his she that he's entitled to take what he's entitled it's part of his his mother's Shar and he's in TI of the Tet so they came to the ref room and they started going around the SW and Casper started making a list of everything that was on the shelf and told them that the told them that you shouldn't don't let them spend too much time in so they made it a deal with catsman the deal was that instead of him writing reports on every they're going to take a video they take a video of everything that was in the in this sa over there because what happened was they would pick up a cipher and he would say a few words about it and the lawy would write it down and everything so instead of spending a lot of time they took videos of everything that was there and they opened up these suitcases these shamadan and the was there and so that was how he wanted to protect himself that he shouldn't lose out in case he wins his case yeah did they get back for $150,000 the truth is they didn't want to give it back he was he how do I know that this got to belong to today if you go up into's library every saer has a stamp in it not only is every saer have a stamp in it but when you walk out of the life you walk out with the sapher there's a bell that will begin to ring when you walk through the belt but as I said before they there's nothing in the SW in the whole library that ran there was nothing in the swm that uh that that uh that that said that it belongs toage what helped out to get it back was there was a a famous go by the name of rabes abramsky absk huh yeah he lived in he lived in and in fact there was a time that but they didn't take him he had a son who was a librarian in Oxford Oxford is the famous place in in England where all the scholars go over there and this son happened to write an article about the K so he wrote in the article that it's known that there are uh six um six copies that are somewhere that were made and three are by this person in in Switzerland and one was in's Library so that article convinced them to give it up and to go to the um so they paid him back $50,000 they paid him back the home money one the one that I think took care to sale is Ros Ros has a [Music] sonland so much M yeah I went through um but let me tell you another interesting story the um as I told you my connection the whole thing came to my cousin that's and he told the Barry told my cousin that if he'll self swor so he'll he'll get the get 5% commission when he sold the so he sold the for $18,000 that was so but the guy from who bought wanted to cancel the sale so there was a question about the $900 commission for the and he ended up getting his commission they gave back the money but he ended up getting his commission but there's other SW that that he that he sold that that because his whole he lost his commission so he wrote a letter to the and he writes to the re that he hopes that the re is is Happy what he what he did but he writes that he has a he used the word he has a that about his commission that he lost so the re answered him an answer and this was the re's answer a very interesting answer on the word the circle the word and put like a question mark a strange Lang but he writes to say this you use the word this expression is bi in quotes the word bias other words wres this is the reason for becomes he owes money to the so becomes like an to the m so if the ow money so in order not to be in the de so they pay right away that's one thing then he writes another paragraph like I announced when you if you bring a letter that this what the announced that if if the anyone will show a document that he paid C for for they'll give it back them similar in our case when to bring that is your cowboy get it so again who did we go to we went to the same that the other two sh that I said we went to him that he should his claim of the commission so heed he the commission and what's SM that's why yes last time huh last time you say yes commission n there commission for the sales that he could have made so he said that a make a if sh were a partnership in in a business and they make a and they decided to to to break up but they didn't sit down and evaluate and to make sure that each one is getting the right amount so said that if you so the helps in other words if someone grab some of this stuff I'm taking this on my so the help me so the official kapas that over here Tak if if even if we say that the two sisters but they never made a between thems he took he took his mother gave him on from her she had no right to give her so so what she what she took and gave away is no voice so therefore and what he sold was things that she got what she was typ was it's not and is B there's no commission originally that was what the the the the sellers means if go huh if they were go to the before she took maybe they would wi no if they would if they if they would have divided up the library and she would give from so then he was something wasn't yeah get some could be could everyone talks about 400 s but the truth is that when he gave aist he he ended up giving aist also so of course there was over 500 SW that was taken he managed to sell a little bit more than 100 SW and then they went to court and they got a ruling from the court that he should turn it over to a storage that belonged to that the court assigned so that that stopped him from selling further from the that he got almost them came back except the few now the reason that a few didn't come back there there's a reason behind it also the reason is as follows number one this mice have taking for was went on a long time went on I think about a year or two years till they caught on to it and during the time he sold long ago before the whole T became so not and not all the so once they had the list this that what was in the Reb's library was only one copy or two copies and the SW that there that there was many copies around and there's no way to know what was from the library cuz I said before there's no stamp in the SPM to who SW be so there's a few swm that did did not come back at the the time that that they got back to this for maybe today maybe something came back more I don't know say few you mean just a few like on the count of the fingers there's like I don't know let's say 10 s them didn't come back from the from the 100 something so what about the entire 35 years does anybody have any way of knowing that he didn't take out then I told you he gave a good no that was whatever he whatever whatever whatever he didn't sell was was was taken put away in the storage he had to give it but what about 10 15 years earlier I don't know there was a home there was a home Li with with 11 that on the's desk that he Ed it that it was given to him a present when before years ago he said his grandmother gave it to my and he didn't want to give it back but then there was a whole thing in the court right afterwards that they made a deal with him and he gave he gave that back he have to give back all the money he made that's uh some want to make a third doesn't exist I'll explain you what I what I mean there's someone asked me why I don't mention it in my in this little booklet that I made on ha Tavis so I have the court rulings besides the whole story that I'm telling parts of it now I have the court rulings and I have also the ruling from the the judge and also the ruling from the appeals code very interesting ruing very very interesting footnotes there about M and everything history of of of howage Ran So the somebody did write up a book and some people are celebrating the third victory that the re doesn't have to testified okay the truth huh okay the truth of M is from my knowledge that was far from a victory whatever was far from Victory what happened was he got made from his sale where he sold swm he made $160 something, $1,000 it costage over $400,000 course they pay back what the people the L buyer uh PID for so of course for over $400,000 to get back so after everything was over the some people who bage I want to say hardheads some people who bage decided that they're going to sue him for the money for the $400,000 when they went to sue him for the money what he went and he count to Su why he count the he claimed count count actually he claimed there was a with went upstairs to di for and when she opened the door he punched her and he broke her nose and they Ed their Warriors Ed that this is the fault of the Reb that the Reb inited his people and by him inciting the people that's why this this happened so they wanted the judge was upset the judge said I I gave you a library that's worth $0 million and now you're suing him for for $400,000 it's doesn't he didn't like the idea now that they came with this suit suit against it ever Not only was it supposed to be suit against it ever but then they said that they want toos that ever the judge said before when they wanted to depose the so he saw no reason why they could depose the re but he said now being that the re is a part of the suit over here he see no reason why they can't depose the devil so this the the people that wanted to make me Su got frighten that it's going to happen and they ran and they made with him a settlement the settlement was that before that shock passed away they had some someone had to make and according to he was supposed to give everything he has to to so they said that he knew his father had money that why so they gave him back his father's money and he in turn gave back the SW that he took from the desk which he Ed that was given them as a gift and M the whole court case was dropped you mean the second time they want oppos of it yeah in this case yeah but why why did he have to concede with anything of even giving back the the the gift that his mother gave him it was a settlement but but they were frightened so why did he have to ConEd in any why did he have to give anything [Music] in something else he wanted to get the money from he so that's how they calmed him down the they told they told the judge I heard that they they can't ever has a heart condition that extreme stress