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Farbrengen 20 Av part Two , Rabbi Yossi Paltiel - 5786
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Just a perfect example.
This is the Reb's father's [ __ ]
This is his father saying
was a very very big. You know he was a
very big he was a gle. He was a
goneator,
but he was a he was I I think that told
us by but I I think that told that
there was a they went to the government
to report how is no good
at
and they said the father said also and
they took off their coats. I don't know
the details but they they reported to
the government that the was shleing
people's coats off their coats. He was a
fab and father was
>> huh dance with the
>> he was dancing with the shoe maker. Oh
no no no
>> without a in other words he was behaving
in a way that was not appropriate for of
of status
and his
a man with a mind like that you would
sing with one of those depressing that
we love to sing [laughter]
to make ourselves feel busy
I saw from fromb's
father's father [clears throat] was
like
he married a girl whose father's name so
he added the name his original
but his was if I'm mistaken so they he
added the name and the zman was sort of
forgotten over time so it was father's
father so you could understand
it was cop incredible mind but when
people would meet him he was a How
should a happy man an easy
This is the Reb's father's niggan. So
the Reb found every excuse to sing this
niggan whenever he could. Um I'm just
these just little pieces of history that
to me are important.
If you remember every shabas at some
point in the fabangan the reb used to
give mashk at some point the used to
give mashk way back when anybody you
wanted could go over to the deb with a
battle of mashk but when the years that
I remember you had to have a special
excuse you know if you're making a a
dinner or some kind of special event so
you would put that mashk before shabas
and the reb would put wine from his cup
into the bottle and he would give you
and he would always say to You give some
of the mashk out at the in 770 because
otherwise it was a question of praying
for a weekday and save the rest for the
good occasion
and every person had to come up and make
an announcement what they were doing and
then would give you mashk.
uh and when it was finished the would
always start the same every single chap
same
until one week the decided to start his
father's and that became the new normal
it must have been the summer of me I
think and that was it from then on after
the gave mash he didn't sing
his father's why because he if it would
have been up to him he would have done
from the first minute but he was
behaving he was taking his time and the
same was true Anybody
who remembers the Reb's office had a
standard
remember
at one point the Reb himself went to his
own and he started singing
and that was it. the Reb's father's
office became his niggan and like I I I
I think it's not such a radical thing to
say that if the Reb would have had it
his way would have been that way from
much much earlier but the
I I don't think the right word is
honored his father it's much more he
he did for his father what his father
was deserving or father was entitled to
But what he deserved. I don't know if
you know the the history. The history is
that the Reb's father was a great
grandson of the oldest sonash.
He was the oldest son of the
he was actually close to the
when passed away was 22 years old. Just
think about this. Okay.
passed away was 22. He had four or five
children already.
His oldest was either seven or eight and
I think maybe not eight, maybe seven.
But he already at that point had a deep
relationship with his elers's aid. There
was alterb the fba writes about his
that his whole life
his whole life there was a sadness about
him
because he never recovered from the loss
of his great-grandfather of the alter
that a very special cash was not an
ordinary child obviously and alter
taught him things that he didn't teach
other people that had a very special
connection this was the oldest child
passed Hey, he was entitled to be the
successor. A person has many children.
The oldest especially if he's worthy is
entitled to the position. That's
so the story is told in the family of
him he shouldn't be and he listened to
his father. He didn't become. He stayed
in Labavich. He passed away in Labavich
and he's buried in Labage. They have a
they have a they have his place where he
was buried. They have they put they put
up now a new mat
and said to him
that you have a right to succession but
I'm telling you not to do it and he told
him that if you're not going to do it
you're going to have pishn
you're going to get double
firstborn gets double of the inheritance
so you'll get you'll get what you're
entitled to as a firstborn and then he
said
it'll it'll come back to you in the
fourth generation in four generations.
So the Reb's family knew this. The Reb's
father knew this and the cousins knew
it. the whole knew and they were looking
forward to the day of
the
um I don't think anybody's going to
question the legit
he kept his word
in a in a way of with very more than
more than
a minimum.
But if you talk about
we could talk about we could talk about
the savoid
the the people who knew him there's
people who knew him in real time
got married in tamak in 1900
and he moved to Nikol
because his wife the rabbit's father was
the nikol was the nikol
and The Reb's parents lived in Nikolai
for about nine years. All the boys were
born in Nikol was born in Nikol. Reb had
a lot of memories from his childhood
from Nikol. He was seven when they left.
He was the oldest. Reb was the oldest of
the children. And um and when he lived
in Nikolav did nothing. He was
unemployed. He was lived under doleaf
test. His supported him. His father he
lived in a house. You know how it was.
They got married. Didn't get an
apartment. They got a bedroom. A couple
got married. Imagine this. A couple got
married and they got a bedroom in the
house of the that's how it was and they
worked out worked out you understand the
Khan's parents took them into the house
and the children were born in that house
and the mother-in-law the mother's
mother-in-law helped the with the
children when they were little
and the's father sat and learned of and
there's people describing his anog you
He he was a very big very big god.
He was also a big makublavic
and he did a lot of things in mystical.
A lot of things that did was different
than by regular because he had hanogas
that were from Kabala
but you couldn't exactly talk to him
because you didn't speak the same
language in but you could watch him the
was on a whole another level. You could
watch him you could watch him go to the
mikvah. You could watch him davin. You
could watch him learn. You could watch
him serve.
And it was for him it was a this was he
was sitting by his of he was living in
city was a very place and didn't worry
in the world and then his reb got him a
job you understand
so's
father has a journal and it's printed
you can read it that means paternal
grandfather's father's father kept a
journal the whole journal journal was
his visit to Labavage. He doesn't talk
about his breakfast and his vacations.
The whole journal about his visits to
Labav. There are a number of references
to the Reb as a child when the Reb was
born and mitzvah in this journal. And
one of the interesting entries in the
journal is that
writes that the Reb never got me a job.
The Reb never got me a job, but he got
my son's jobs. He never got me a job.
that never held a position as
he was in the category of bimal
that the people who were extraordinarily
special
there was a ka there was that supported
them they didn't really work they
learned they served hem their whole
in the in the you have this there was a
special fund that they raised money for
and people who were not able to support
themselves who were in a madre where
their whole life was learning and
dominating had nothing to do with the
world and the's grandfather was in that
category in his journal he writes and
gave him money
he should be able to have what he needed
to live on he didn't need much but the
he that's he writes my sons that gave
jobs me never got a job let me tell you
something he he was the lucky one he did
his children a favor he gave
bonus
[clears throat]
it when you read it in the journal it
sounds like you say you know it would
have been nice if I had a job let me
tell you something this [laughter] the
only thing worse than than not having a
job is being at as a
especially when they became you
understand
and he had a brother Mendel I think was
over in a different city as a
parenthesis I don't want to talk about
this because I don't have enough
information. There's a boy in Kan, a man
who dabs the shaven's
son's son.
>> What did I say?
>> Men,
>> he was here for Shabbo.
So he's he's a direct descendant and you
you was it was two brothers married two
sisters.
her younger sister married of Leik's
younger brother and there's a kid in I
mean he's I guess he's close to my age I
don't know how old he is but um we d
we're in at the same time which is not
exactly the time you're supposed to be
in um and um he's a grandson of of
brother you imagine and his father
somebody told me that they remember him
when the rebba wasn't well he came to
see the reb that's what the rumor is and
somebody told me that if you had met his
father, you could still see
that I don't know what the right word is
that dignity that uh
that that class that he had from his
grandfather who was the Reb's brother,
Reb's father's brother. So the rabbi got
him jobs as Raon
and um the raonus the raonus was a big
raonus was given one of the most
powerful positions in Russia
was a very difficult raonus and he was
given the raonus at a very very very
difficult time an extremely difficult
time I mean the story be kit is that the
city of yakatinislav
was outside the pale of settlements Jews
were not allowed to live there Jews not
allowed to live in in pets was called
but there was a rich man who who was an
exception because the government needed
him as much as he needed the government
and he created all these puppet
businesses and he hired all these Jews.
He made a Jewish community with smoke
and mirrors as if they were all working
in his businesses which did not exist.
And he established a very large one of
the largest kilos of in Russia
was invit
from the time that this community was
established they would always go to
always
before was a famous there's a lot of
stories about him and when
[clears throat] he passed away it was
not easy there was a lot of politics
there was a lot of teams
And the rabbi was Mason. She worked very
hard to get to they tried in every way
to see to it that the should not become
but became and was a the people fell in
love with him and came to the people who
even the people who didn't like what he
stood for but they liked him. The Reb's
parents had incredible
and the community even the people who
they were their was so opposed to the
whole approach of the Reb
but on a personal level that and the
respect and the appreciation for the
Reb's parents had no bounds
and the Reb's father was given this
bonus and the Reb's parents moved and
the boys moved and they you know they
became from private citizens very very
prominent public people. The Reb's
parents
and the Rebbits and Khan the Reb's
parents wanted very much that the boys
should be sheltered from public life.
They should not be uh affected by the
fact that they were public people and
they worked very hard to make the lives
of the children separate from their
abundance. Um there were three three
boys had three bedrooms. Each had their
own room that in the beginning they had
a big apartment. Then later the Soviets
took it away from them. But a big
beautiful apartment and each one of the
boys had their own room and they sat in
that room. The Reb's mother used to say
she fought with the boys to eat.
The mother their diligence was so strong
that she fought with them to put the
food in their mouth.
And this is how the Reba grew up. This
is the world in which he lived. Um there
were points at which that private life
was interrupted.
The the Reb himself tell spoke by Fabian
that there were several occasions when
he went out of his private world and
became a public person.
>> One of them was there was a there was an
epidemic of typhus. There was an
epidemic of of
typhus which killed many people
>> and the Reb and his brothers went around
from bed to bed helping pay people. The
story is again these are all stories
that people tell the himself got sick
and for a while was delirious and then
the the immigrants this spoke publicly
and that the immigrants came at the end
of World War I thousands of immigrants
ran away from the front and they all
ended up in Yagat and the deb said I
never saw my mother like that before or
after the's mother ran the entire
operation to provide for tens of
thousands of Jews tens of thousands of
people you Not talking about six people,
housing
and food and education
and jobs where possible
for all the yidden who came in in you
know they fell on the city like
grasshoppers.
Um and she oversaw a whole bunch of
committees of people who were
responsible for the various different
parts of of of of of
what's the word of taking in so many
immigrants and that EB at that point
this this there this records not from
the Babacha sources that describe how
that and his brothers they closed the
gum and they became deeply deeply
involved in these efforts but becloud
and his brothers were in their own world
they were living in Ding
and then the revolution came revolution
happened less than 10 years after got
the job. It came to Yakatinosav a little
bit later because the revolution started
in the top of Russia. Yakatav was the
bottom of Russia. But by 1920
Yakatinav was a Soviet city. It was not
a was no longer a Zarist city. It was a
Soviet. It was a communist city.
And the Reb's father the Reb's father
the Reb's father
did what a Reb is supposed to do.
He stood
and he uh
he acted as the rock
around which anybody
who wanted to hold on to Yiddishite.
But he needed to feel
that he has a a mission. He has a a post
on which to lean
and that Eb's father and that Eb's
mother became that for thousands of
people. The Soviets destroyed Yiddishite
in an incredible way and to an
incredible extent. But there were many
Yidden on different levels
who wanted to keep Yiddish. Some wanted
to be completely they wanted to keep
Shab and Kash and everything. And then
there were different levels that Eb's
parents were were a rock. They were a
asa. They were a rock.
any Yiddish kite all around them leaned
on them
and the
they created the the the this the shity
the zite
the the
the I don't know what the right word is
the security the continuity
for for people by putting themselves out
>> and it was an incredible act of nefish
it was extremely extremely uh serious
and it was the Debb's parents were
risking their lives. It was very simple.
They're risking their lives that Yidden
should be Yidden. I just saw this week's
gem. I'm sure you all saw it. They show
it every week in show that they found
letters where writes that he wanted he
had he had opportunities to leave Russia
in the early 20s. The Reb's father had
opportunities. The father was a gag. He
was a God will be. There were plenty of
communities who've been happy to have
him as he had offers.
And the Reb said, the Reb's father said,
"How can I leave? There's people relying
on me."
And the Reb's father and the Reb's
mother were a were a son. They were a
rock on which so many yeden leaned. You
know, if you wanted to be, you know, you
wanted to know that there's one person
that justifies your recklessness. You
understand if you're going to raise your
children and teach them alabes and
you're going to try and keep shabas and
you're going to try and eat kosher which
was difficult in any case and then on
top of that the fact that there was a
risk that you could lose your job and
you could lose your apartment then you
go to Siberia and they could take your
children away from you
needed to lean on somebody you needed
somebody to be there that gave you the
strength to be that strong and the Reb's
parents did that for thousands of people
for thousands of people for for for 20
years that the Reb's father lasted as
long as he lasted was a a
I'm coming up here right and I'm sitting
in a cab. So I I took out a book of the
stories of the Reb's uh father quotes
different quotes. So one of the quotes
they came across was that somebody asked
the Reb's father if he has
does the Reb's father have so the Reb's
father no I have noid but I have
female
what did he mean he meant the wives of
communists who would come in the middle
of the night to the house they should
make a
or the daughters of communists came in
the middle of the night they make a
this is what the reb's parents
And the mid neph the sacrifice and the
risk was was it was it's it's you know
you can't understand it until you're in
that world. It's we don't understand
what it means. Chronic fear you know
chronic fear. You're just always afraid.
Always afraid because you don't know
when the t when the when the gauntlet's
going to drop you. You're living your
life. If you're doing your thing and you
literally don't know who's your friend
and who's your enemy and when they're
going to arrest you and when they're
going to call you in for an examination
and that they live this way for all
those years and they were at mamisha the
nephesh was was incredible. The ms was
incredible. The reb's parents
and they finally arrested him. They they
arrested the Reb's father and we all
know I mean the Reb speaks about this a
lot
that the Reb said by Fabian once
that my father was Mason for matzah
was nephesh for matzah and he was
arrested right before pes it was not by
mistake that they arrested right before
pes there were other ink they arrested a
whole bunch in abund before pes but the
reb's fathers arrested tess right for
Pesa.
>> And one of the ways it's explained is
because every year he fought with Russia
for matzah. The the Ukraine was the
bread basket of the world, especially
after Stalin, who of course made the
country so much more fertile and so much
more rich and so much more abundant. So
there was plenty of wheat
um [clears throat]
and they needed to ker wheat. The wheat
was all bleach. Wheat was all
and Ablavic went and asked for wheat and
they didn't give wheat. He met Khalen.
Khalin was the president of Russia. He
was a bit of an eccentric but he was not
a bad person and he Khalen had a lot of
veto a lot of power. He was a political
position. In other words, it was a
honorary position. He was not involved
in the government, but he was a he was a
puppet. He was a figurehead. I don't
know exactly who he was and what his
rights were, but he was a he helped a
lot of people. A lot of yen got out of
Russia. of this
father went to see him and said I need
so he wrote a letter that the the Soviet
Union has to help the Jewish people get
m and everybody has to help
saying and his one of the stories that
told was that they sent a car load a
wagon load of wheat and the wagon had a
hole and it rained in and the wheat
became and asked for another wagon load
you imagine in the Soviet Union what do
you want who gave YOU WHEAT EXPLAIN TO
them
gives
and they were so angry and he gave they
gave more wheat year after year after
year and then they they finally arrested
him. So the Reb said why was my father
made for matzah
the said because to expect in Russia to
keep all mitzvah was was
a very high expectation
but at least that mitzvah which is
connected to
they should have matzah is called the
bread of faith and the reb's father
matzah and they arrested him and they
tortured him I mean we don't know the
stories we don't told the stories. Do
you know that Khana came from Russia
with a photo of the Reb?
The Rebbit Khan came from Russia with a
picture of the Reb's father that was
taken in the last months of his life.
And he said to his mother, "Who is
this?"
And she told him, "This is your father."
The Rebbit turned over the picture and
wrote on the back question mark. This is
my father.
You imagine you could see the reb's own
hand. The reb took the photo that his
mother brought and he wrote it back with
a question mark. In 1991 they got a
picture from the rebb when he first
went. You can see the difference. You
can understand why the reb didn't
recognize his father. Theim that this
man suffered
are are incredible.
For yiddesh
I I have to make a half sake. I just
want to tell you one story and then
we'll make but
and this is this story gives you a sense
of how those people lived and thought
in the early 70s
there was an opportunity for Anash to
leave Russia. If you know the history of
Labavich in 4647 and right after the
second world war about 1,200 Labidim
men, women and children left Russia
including my father and his father and
about 1,200 members of Anash left
Russia.
Most of them ended up living in
they built they established the
considerable number came to and the Reb
also sent to the all over the world to
Australia to South America to places in
Europe. The Reb told people to go and
live where they would where they were
needed, not where they would benefit,
where they were needed. But the Reb took
into consideration
of children and panosa and other things.
But the Reb they came to the to the from
Israel and said he should send all the
thebad
was one of the most outspoken
anti-ionists in the world. And then
Zionism is becoming a state is
happening. They came to the for a that
they should win the vote in the United
Nations and the told them don't worry
you'll win the vote you'll have enough
votes but when you win the vote come
back I need to ask you something when
they came back the asked for so they
told theb that he should move all the
so the said that's not how these
decisions are made
every person asked individually and each
one got an answer based on their
personal circumstances with mishb with
panos
and with children and within and other
considerations and there was also a big
consideration
but not all of Anach got out. Many got
stuck. In other words, the the borders
opened. The po the Russians let Polish
people leave because there was a quota.
Stalin and all of his Mishkas needed to
get every Russian back. No Russia is
allowed to live outside of Russia. If
you were Russian and any place in the
world, they had to take you back and
send you to Siberia because you stepped
on enemy territory and you breathe
western air, you're a a threat to the
whole civilization. I mean, the man was
absolutely mad. But the way he did was
he told the Polish, "You give me back my
Russians, I'll give you back your
Poles." But he killed half of the Poles
or they died from starvation. So he any
if he he just needed to reach a certain
number of polls. So any Russian who got
himself a Polish passport until that
quarter was met, he let him through the
border. He knew they were Russians. The
minute he he sent back to Poland, the
same number of Poles that came into
Russia, he closed the border.
So for a while leaving, the whole thing
was was a bunch of bribes. But it he at
my event, they knew exactly what was
happening. Then he closed the border,
arrested a bunch of people. Nash got
stuck and they didn't leave for many
many years in the late 60s early 70s
from what I understand anybody who
wanted to leave from manash was able to
leave Russia all the didn't get out in
46 47 between 1967 and 68 and 72 73 they
all come out maybe I'm exaggerating a
little bit but the nash left and when
they came to here
the reb celebrated them the celebrated
them
And um so there's many stories. The Reba
sent each one of them money to come to
him. Every one of the Russians that came
out of Russia, the Reb sent them the
first visit to the Reb, the Reba paid
for to come to the Reb for for
Pes and they were the Reb's guest and
there was extreme expressions of
affection from the Reb to the Nash that
had come from Russia. So one of the most
interesting stories is
we don't call him by his last name was a
was a was a lit he was a snag he was a
liter but came from somebody once told
the sent
to the with a sh so he told theb I want
to have a plaque from and theb said
really was ankenazi he was
But he was a bigot. He was unbelievable.
He was an extremely humble man. And the
rebba had him in the highest regard. And
was a Russian Jew.
Raisha knew what was going on in Russia.
He lived through it. He almost lost his
life in the Soviet Union. And understood
what was going on with Labage in Russia.
Tim was personal. He was he lived
through it. He was saved by an
personally.
So the Reb sent a delegation of Anasha
that just came from Russia and he sent
along with this group and introduced
each one four or five people who were
extraordinary
what you would call what we call very
casually yugalite you understand
and the Reb said to them that when they
go to the m they shouldn't they
shouldn't be humble they shouldn't they
shouldn't be labicious
should see who they were.
Introduced each one of them.
One of them he introduced
he knows he's a
how did he have
when he went into the Reb
stood up for him. Reb stood up for him
and the Reb said, "Why is the Reb
standing up for me?" So the Reb says,
"I'm standing up for you because you
know by heartb."
So he said to the Reb, "It's
exaggerated."
And the Reb said to him, "Usually what's
said in this room is the truth. Usually
what said in this room the truth."
Anyway, they went to the Misha and Ramea
was very moved. He was so appreciative.
He was very moved. that
they talked. Amongst the things that
happened was that Fan asked this group
of four or five men how they survived,
how all those years how they survived.
And each one gave a different answer.
One gave an answer. They were all
looking forward to seeing the another
one said the Fabian
meaningful answers. One of the people in
that Mishlas was
>> Natik.
He was a special he was a son of very
special person a very humble man
apparently they said God to me he was
like an old little guy but they say
it was apparently
so asked this group how they survived
this one gave this reason this one gave
this reason
in
we had a choice we had a choice we had a
choice
was very taken by this because that's
That's aid. You're living in the Soviet
Union and they're they're they're
destroying everything that's important.
They destroy the soul. You know, they
didn't destroy the they destroyed the
soul. The Soviet destroyed the soul of
God.
Jerusale
it's incredible how tragic and deep the
the the the destruction of everything
connected to holiness and to God and to
into higher definition they destroyed it
all and says I choice I had a choice
the vart here is a do and the eb's
father the's mother did what they needed
to do and the eb's father paid his life.
This
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Yeah. Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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