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speaking speaking entrepreneurs speaking entrepreneur behind them. aka Martin Schwarz. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, originally from and uh then I got married and graphic design. And that was the first thing because I love computers and Exactly. Okay. Graphic design. The story by the way is that It's very it's artistic and then because >> I love the art. Um what I love is problem solving but I always thought in the back of my head that okay I want to get to programming one day development but graphic design the rest is history. So I started doing websites and custom websites, doing custom applications, custom software and then partner talking about about 3 years ago partner approached an apparel company from the ground up and he wants to start his own apparel company. Now I'm a developer. I build software partner was my business. It's like the restaurant is my business. Yeah. So epic mention so many ideas and they look for someone that's a developer and and maybe you could build something for me and let's do it together. It's very nice. I'm not saying that now, but I was busy actually building stuff for clients that paid me. So, when I spoke with my now partner, um I saw there's something more in it. And then we saw it's not going to work as a project. So yeah, certain partnership. As time moved on, I saw that's where the real deal is. I stopped basically my old business where I built stuff. I had like a studio mention and that's what I'm doing right now. Friday. >> Beautiful. Okay. [snorts] So 30,000 foot view of one step at a time. So yeah,ics. Yes.ics. graphics >> because I'm very techsavvy and I have an artistic side to me. So, I love to create things. I love to build things. I love to design. I love to come up with ideas. That's me. I think my life was more or less covered. Um, but I I I wanted to build something for myself. >> So, it's down the road I'm going to have to do something. That's when I made the graphics. >> Exactly. And also, again, a 9 to 5 job I never saw as being the the future for me. Um, generally speaking, I don't know how it covers anyone's bills. So, I never saw that as a thing. That being said, I never in my in my life had a job. So, Um, definitely. Um, >> no, I figured it out. But certain experience, what it means to be an employee. So when you employ people first um as well as certain structures but from scratch align you never get a chance to see it >> right. So a certain discipline, a certain loyalty, a certain >> Yes. >> in a work environment. >> Beautiful. So graphic designer. >> Exactly. >> So this is what I do. Listen, I have a graphics business. I'm a graphics artist. and a and and and >> okay >> and uh my HD customer is actually my landlord and um he's a guy actually that asked me for a website give me two weeks >> yes okayion Yes. Yes. Yes. Um at that point >> at that point not later when I did websites. So technically I don't remember. Um, so was for sure not more than a year because we're talking about 10 years ago. Come on. Wake up. We're not talking about 30 years ago. Wow. >> And yeah, but uh I got a few sales and >> beautiful. So uh that I feed you let's sayics graphics but generally speaking I didn't sell myself as as a graphic design >> um bigger projects it's also very it constantly become graphic design is the end of the game it starts over here ends over here. Correct. This is woody max in Photoshop in Illustrator in design. It's not interactive. There's no functionality. This is nothing happening behind the hood. So, I am a very technical person and it's a bone. I like to build stuff. I love to figure out things. That's that's me. So, yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, I believe so. >> Okay. >> Happens to be, by the way. I'm just going to throw it out there. Um, graphics is a easier business. Yeah. graphics to destination. There's no maintenance, no nothing involved. You have somebody as long as >> technically yes. But plainformational website I'm not perhaps so yeah it is very important but it is more complicated but again it's more rewarding it's say physically Noics totally in >> Friday. >> Okay. What's Friday? >> Friday. Friday is a payroll and employee management software for small business owners. >> Friday by the way an existing business. >> No. name on the list copyrighted. We had like good names and some backyard. This is actually dry partners and some we were just brainstorming. Somehow Friday came up. It's between us three. So yeah, that's a name. And Friday is Friday. Nice. Um, okay. No mind. So, >> yeah. >> So, the concept of the mastermind two or more people. >> Yeah. can help me. >> Okay, that's that's what they say, >> right? Okay. So, what's the concept in Friday.com? >> Friday.com. Yeah. Yeah. So, Friday is it feels good feeling and Friday is usually the payday. Um I think it's an amazing. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Um so, This is Friday. So the actually simple payroll per employee. So the company employees employee employees that means that's just the way it is. >> Exactly. But the concept it goes per employee. Correct. So what ends up happening? employees Y and Z. What ends up happening is companies which is just it's very complicated and the average user doesn't know how to use it which means competitors I'm looking to hire a secretary with experience in X [snorts] product is the second Friday experience we get it says let's try the experience. >> Okay. So, so let's say QuickBooks, correct? QuickBooks in order to do QuickBooks bookkeeping with QuickBooks. Basic program, right? >> Correct. So, because >> so the company Friday. >> Exactly. Exactly. The council Friday is host company full of employees. was um and I had this I'm I'm a techsavvy guy.com >> Friday app Friday.com >> Friday.com um team I have a team of developers but I'm yeah my role is my role is CTO Not a product. Correct. >> Okay. >> Um, so that that's me. >> That's what they say. Yeah. >> But computer the password. Okay. It's not rocket science. butus employee and I just couldn't find it and it didn't make sense for me. Why should processing payroll be so complicated? So, >> so there's the concept. The concept is in Zenon do 100% of the small business owners >> unemployed whatever >> unemployed technically we say 1 to 50 but it's a certain mindset exactly 24 25 year old the best solution >> so as I said technically generally speaking yes correct but in hub companies was let's say employees but they operate as small business >> perhaps they manage tax definitely pension whatever payroll deductions health insurance whatever >> yes so it's integrating with with benefits providers We're doing that. Um taxes of course that's that's the basics like filings and stuff. Generally speaking you sign up with Friday we take care of the rest. >> Right. Workers compensation. >> Workers scam. Correct. >> Okay. >> What do you mean by that? overseas employees. >> So as of now US employees but uh eventually we'll have that in track but beautiful fine speaking successful entrepreneur of the turning point. Yes, I made it. and subscribe to my list.com entrepreneur moment. So far a beautiful shin glossy picture textbook story. Which part of which part of the story? Yeah. Okay. Check. Check. Graphics. Yeah. Check. Decide website. Next. Okay. Okay. So, okay. Fine. Struggles. This is the midst of The the in short is as easy. Nothing was ever easy and it still is not. Um the 9 to5 okay >> running a business is every step of the way from day number one till you're not lunch break. Let me just quit. Let me go look for a job. >> Um the is that could be part of the problem. >> No. Um I don't give up that fast. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. >> Yeah. And then and let let the rest happen. Um, does that mean stupid? No, you shouldn't. Although you end up doing stupid stuff, but you do what you do. So, any struggles. No, no, no. You don't give up. Beautiful. You don't give up. But [snorts] don't give up. >> So, okay. So, so do number one basics. Do mention 9 to5 paycheck of the future. My problem is >> that's that's me. >> Okay. Um, but because stock of the hand then ain't going to make itself. You're not going to take step one. No. Yeah. The basic conception he plays 4 D chess. Yeah. The concept is focuses of plots. >> Exactly. >> Okay. The skills everything if you really want the want technically nothing that could stop you. struggle a beginning whatever it is to keep your eye on the focus you're going to figure it out is So yeah, I move faster but and sometimes but but at the end of the game if you keep on trying he's in charge if you do the right things for enough time I'm not talking about repeating mistakes is exactly the failure the failure is a a a >> a lesson exactly is a limit of next time and that's the way you get there. >> Wow. Beautiful. So, so as I said before as a 9 to5 minded, but by now um I've seen the other side of the aisle. There's definitely something about it, especially if you have a normal way when it comes to business. X Y and Z because that's what it is. Correct. you're going to make it. And they're also like hardly covering their bills. So, certain career, certain job. Um, But if you have what it takes and you're ready for the pain, um, open business. >> [snorts] >> I think it's very picture perfect questions fulltime whatever So the simple that's why I don't have a job. That's why I never took a job. I couldn't see it happening. Okay. I don't know. No the the whenever numbers opportunities for for mention for so many unknowns. So, so let's say$50,000 in the $50,000 let's say invest in real estate then you can have a job% 100% passive income yeah that's what I'm talking about who who's going to employ you when you're 60 years old >> right Right. And this is done for the next. You should better be very very disciplined. But >> Oh, okay. Thank you. But but is a self-employed man to job basic expenses whatever but self-employed entrepreneur in the financial market whatever says but the self-employed match yeah but paycheck 9 to5 says the jobs that pay you really well. That's that's another secret. >> Right. Right. And self-employed so-called employee. It is self-employed customers. >> Exactly. >> So my question, what do you think he needs to hear? >> Number one, Um, that's it. Sounds very good, but it's very hard. Um, go for it. So, whatever you want to call it, business, whatever that you have to force yourself. Everybody's paying the the price. Exactly. >> Exactly. Beautiful. is the first $1,000 story. I have what it takes. I know I'm going to succeed. I know I have what it takes in the long term to succeed period of time, especially whatever. But I think I have what it takes. I don't think that way. I know I have what it takes. There's a way. There's a will. Is a while. Will is a way. So that's the way I look at things. That's [clears throat] now feel good. No, that's that's my that's my my view on life. Beautiful. of the best ton of experience the graphics Friday app. So developer is by the way everything is so different. Um as we speak >> exactly >> code for example is not a job anymore. writing code. The developer developer handle developer again developers was was actually writing code agents. details, but it's very technical. I don't think that being said, um, graphic design and websites, it's something I'm didn't do in a nice couple of years. I wouldn't go there because skill with the host is actually in the computer at the end of the game has to use the AI and to come up with ideas and actually take care of it, >> right? >> Yeah. If you're open to it, if you're a graphic designer, graphic designer at your advantage, that's your job. But are going to stay behind. There's nothing nothing you can do about it. Um but software software development software development. So developer the number one developer what's if it's just for the money like a well- paid job then he's not interesting for me. because field someone that enjoys problem solving, figing figuring things out, um building stuff. I get the job then we got a problem and you got a problem. So this is development, but you have to be someone that's act that actually wants to do it even though you're not getting paid for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> By the way. >> Yeah. My number one skill is problem solving. And by the way, problem solving skill is playing the concept. Exactly. >> What they saying? Find find out what you absolutely love doing and you're not going to work another day in your life. >> Yes. >> Work with the play. >> It's true. But once it's a job, it's still a job. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Excited. You're looking forward to it. >> Exactly. Exactly the original website in HTML, CSS, JavaScript, which is kind of the foundation for development, WordPress, Wix, which is kind of programs. >> B4. Yeah, exactly. But actually writing code. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I enjoy it. That's that's what I enjoy. So that's why I do it. If you're such a type of person, solving problems, then it might be for you. Then there's a lot of different opportunities for you, >> right? And they never figured it out. They never developed it. get the position high-tech company and software people, IT people and high paying jobs, but they never developed it. I get it, right? As I said, research opportunity. Yeah. So with all sleep to break the code and research plots exactly >> beautiful. Anything else? Um then obviously there's there's so much information out there. There's so much information out there now with AI by the way is base 44 how's it called um at the other end to become a developer to get a development job a development career it's way harder because so the child is the value developer says anymore the lovable you have to understand the inner workings how things work. Yeah. By the way, by the way, you might be a good candidate for this cuz you know, if you're the type of guy that likes to know, >> I just want to know it works. I don't care how it works. >> Exactly. [laughter] >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. [laughter] >> Exactly. Arab then it's probably for you. So back to to um programming. Um guys born. Um but that's not really >> that's what exactly. Um in order to really be someone was business diesel base 44 as a developer and company like Friday they have to understand like data structures like steps ahead data structure is different There's so many things that happen when you change any line of code. So4 X Y and Z doesn't really work. By the way, The next step um the next step so is online courses. Um yeah yeah yeah I wouldn't say a single [snorts] but W3 actually it's so interesting because okay stack overflow stack overflow is achiever farm got any problem with code came across a bug And within minutes there's AI. So w3schools.com like the basics HTML page CSS JavaScript um start playing around as much we actually build things break things >> actually do the thing >> exactly that's exactly where you learn Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you finally got it. You got that feeling. Yeah. for the program. I'm very excited. >> Got it. >> Wow. Beautiful. Appreciate the conversation. Is there anything any last thing that number one thing is Challenges of the challenges of this is the process. This that's the name of the game. That's the way it works. It doesn't work a different way. Not really doesn't work like that. Um but we keep on going and Um, I'm not really that active usually in the basement. I'm a developer. It's actually my first time on a podcast. Actually, the first time going public in the first place. You're doing good. 100%. Beautiful Friday.com. >> Exactly. >> Friday.com. Beautiful. >> That's the name of the game. for 100% famous. That's the way it works. But you still got to do what you got to do. >> Beautiful. And it isn't pain. Isn't pain. Try your best. Do your best. Wow. Appreciate it. Amen.