Chabad and Yeshiva World #2

thummell about I'm an old-timer a traditionalist although I know about what you're talking about you're either a hosted Oh what what do I mean every person has paid a free will to choose how much he wants to incorporate into his life of whatever he's doing but you can't change the philosophy the ethos that's what I'm saying that's what that's why my whole talk was about going back to the origin Chabad is Casa de s-- FAL CentOS the literature world is the Vilna going the crime volusion the crime brisket and it's modest if you take that and you strip it from its Taha Rosa its purity it's not lit fish that's not kebab because it is it's basically like I said when they said this kebab lights I said there's green lights and red lights and yellow lights it's it's not so bad yeah you just take you something cuz you want to feel good and you want a hit here for you play with it so in other words I'm not perfect believe me and no one's perfect but the standard is the standard so when we talk about neo Cassidy's you know Yaakov that Neha citizen ready started way back in the 50s I don't know if you're familiar but there were individuals who I knew and I interviewed who had this idea back then it don't work at the end of the day that you know you don't find that a Flatbush and Lakewood and Baltimore in Eretz Israel uracil I you don't find them you find wannabes you find at exotics you find protect pretend people make up people fakers or good people but they're mislead so the ethos is what drives a movement if you depart from the ethos the philosophy it's not that movement it's your own stick and you want to see the centers around the sociologist and see this in the sense that there is no anymore and so why wouldn't the casual observer make that observation and very good question and you're right they could make that observation and they and they wouldn't be and they wouldn't be wrong in making that observation however my responses it's an observation one and not the mathilde the reality why of course the rather passed away however Labov each Habad is 200 years with 100 with hundreds of sworen of a philosophy of a movement of a schita it when I say that I see this is about a nether it's a rabbit teaching Titus a shame the ladies assume is still here the fact that I call this bar who took away whatever that's what God does you know and the fact that the Babbitt's are Hassidim having chosen another leper that's that's what they decided to do so far and maybe for eternity to the messiah comes now you're saying that that's a departure from the Hasidic model I agree with you I don't disagree but by the way we all know that breast lifts up masculine instructed that there be no continue no successor to him as ever so this isn't the first time in Hasidic history we were we have an individual left such a destruction but yes you're right it's a departure from most Hasidic movements and it's also a departure from the Chabad movement who had successors but what should we do what should I do that my rent that didn't have children and he did not feel himself to be in a position to make a successor because he said for 42 years of his life the same idea I am only a mammalian monkey of my father-in-law I am only a filling for my father-in-law now you could say that he's he's lying you could say that he's being petty that he's being facetious he's making conversation but I heard it from him hundreds of times said in a serious way and I believe and I tell you he meant it and therefore he did not appoint anybody to be a rather what he said in 1988 after his wife passed away he said we have red onion we have much spam and the implication was this is the way hababam continued as his great-grandfather the same ascetic said how will the Babich continue because his rabbits have passed away in 1861 and he was in down and they was very distraught know that he said if we'll stay together and hypothesis will help each other that's the way the casinos will continue but I'm adding one that could that robotics and a revelant that I spoke about is as hydrants aspiring to learn the reckless teachings are there let me ask you a question do you think during this lifetime how many times that I have a personal conversation with their ever asked me that question you know the answer is twice at my bar mitzvah when my father took me in as a bar mitzvah boy and he asked me something on my bar mitzvah pill pole and the other time was when when 1980 I brought a boy about mitzvah boy from California who I was being Makara the camp and I brought him and his grandparents to New York to see the rep and get a breath and all that so I went in as an interpreter that's it then I write to him yes that I get answers yes what I'm saying is that the whole idea is ruthless that's what I was getting at before the Marvel of the Sidis is belief and richness and relationship with ruthless that's where it begins and ends I believe I believe who am i but if you're asking I believe that we need a soul geologists and the fact that our sin is not giving it to us right now send them an email or what's that I don't have an answer but I believe that you do need a soul geologists how do I and how do consider get today their answer some go to the rebus oh hell his grave site some put a letter into the ingress craters some go to 770 and say sit in their house and bury popcorn on Baltimore and I'm a father I learn learn his tailor learn his teachings and they identify with that and they and they check with a rug and together with that they make a decision but okay but but would it be easier would it be easier to have the sole geologists answer you in a letter or answer you in in in in you know face to face absolutely but I thought there's a brother who runs the world and let me tell all of you and myself that only only only Hashem is the answer and anyone who tells you otherwise they might express themselves incorrectly with words but the basis the the foundation of our cities is tighter and if you're not an educator and you don't have a mother now colors Burkle it's all worthless now also you should know that ever created and pushed for quote on my sphere system where he wanted every community besides in the achievers we have Russell Shiva and my spam must give him you know but in the in the communities of an Asha he wanted he wants this should be much spean in addition to a row people who are guides and mentors helping people and they who have had more contact with their ever like myself I grew up in the rebus community for many years of my life and I learned his teachings people like us who become personal must bein to other people is very helpful but like I said to your question because we're talking honestly of course would be better so Chabad has never forsake the belief that I espoused earlier that a rep is a soul geologist and we meet Arriba and Labov accident by a large feel that they this is what Hashem wants this is what we do is it what I want no you can ask you couldn't argued that become behalf of vouchers maybe you'll just tell me your personal heart dish what do you think amigo has to question but the first one is what do you think of Woodstock who has the syrup shot and he might have an animosity for Lubavitch list and when he's an evil and he talks to his friends about how he doesn't like llevaba truly but then when he's going on vacation with his friends man his mind him to Thailand he uses that he has thanks to the rabble his ideas of sending out sleuthing across the world he's able to benefit tremendously from kebab services so to say and this person doesn't feel either even though he spends his time in the Shiva saying not nice things about how he he still partakes and the benefits that then it could give to him that would be my first question what you feel about that second question is this or all new Ron Walker here would be very interested in hearing some tidbits maybe a binary stroll and an apology okay to the first question my honest and gut feeling about such a person is that he's a hypocrite peace army and a fake and that when he will really be honest with himself he'll either say I'm a believer of a rough shaft and the animosity which i think is ridiculous because you want to be you want to have sinner you want to have hatred of the jew but if that's what he comes to god bless or he'll say you know I've been living with a mistake all my life and I see how fine and kind and learn it in Dimona in Halawa not just as a city's Labov HFC them are which is something that the yeshiva world has sold and sells there tell me them a bag of hogwash okay I can point to hundreds of tell me of Labov oddest-looking that can put any by the bus and Lakewood in their back pocket and learning and if you don't believe me I'll give you names as long as you get them to cool those people we have a person in Buffalo New York rabbi Hensel Greenberg who knows cuts it on his five fingers he would be honest even brisk tomorrow night in Lakewood but by Avram Yeshua who ever took over that brother fewer because you got to go to bris if you want a good a real good Amir is not good enough you need brisk right let's go Spanish bed guys I've been around a long time and I've been I'm playing sitting with brisker brister's and mirrors I know the whole gamut and that just means that when people want themselves to make you smart which is not good but that doesn't mean that there's that there's been a reconciliation no I am hope I hope I hope one day you guys can get into a car when the kovetz over drive down here won't get me to them and you know we have hours of bringing a conversation but wait wait wait wait I just I just want to I want to address it to this point you're right Tuvia you're right going to Maui doesn't mean but but I was saying that he's a hypocrite in the faith because how can you how can you smile to someone and spoke stick him with a knife behind you I mean people do that is that nice is that men slur it's disgusting you know and I'll tell you a story what I was once for bringing in Yerushalayim and heckle manometer right around the corner from brisk over there and offer huggy shot Yahoo you know it was comes down the tables with the ball Tanya's your sight and it was a packed crowd the rather garish I see them and we were bringing and singing a good name and I'm saying what I am and it was beautiful as my guys sitting there I said right he said left I said night he said they and I and I kept my and I kept my cool and you know I didn't say anything I you know just answered and went on all of a sudden a get across you know the toilet out of these guys they look like you know football linemen you know this guy's a tall guy he gets up in front of a hundred 150 people in the room and he says listening he points to that guy he says listen you're a misogynist he says but I'm gonna break your bones if you don't shut up now if you don't be quiet I'm gonna take care of you he said this this this rub here speaking is Allah by virtue Allah barber chair has to have a vs. role that's their god that's there you know foundation they gotta love everybody so he's not gonna say anything to you and he's no but I'm a Guerra and that's not my foundation and if you don't be quiet and stop making trouble I'm gonna finish you the guy sat there quiet as the rest of the time then we all got up to dance and he goes into the hallway cause it doesn't wanna dance with us I see them and they swim in wait that's one part of the story five years later I'm here in Borough Park right here on 17th and 45th right next to my house and my office on 13th Avenue in 48 so I would take sometimes rides I see a car parked by the pump I go over and say could you give me a ride with your money going up so sure come in he turns to me and he says are you Villa by batur and I turn around and I look to him but I didn't realize before and I see it I say are you the socket but it was the same guy from brisk from five years ago and I say to him what was her issue that night so he said to me honestly I believe the Vilna goings race Memphis against Hassidim is a full force and I'm not gonna sell out like most of the literature I'm gonna keep it to week okay I hear it and he's taking me that pepper and we're getting closer to my office I'm about to get off and he says guess what I'm married I say Mazel Tov wonderful who'd you marry the granddaughter of a Colleen or faucet I think I said the guy said is arrangement you know a lot of money a granddaughter of accosted that's the answer - yeah that's the hypocrisy when it's good for me our usual above it when it's good for me I marry a girl from that she probably was a base type of girl and not you know does know about casitas but the fact that she came from a Hasidic background so we're not talking about that now as far as the XM had ever you know the animosity listen I don't have to tell you guys anyone animosity is not acceptable cinema is not acceptable you have a different Ishika no problem but what does it have to do with research and learning Tonya nothing that's the issue the issue is let us get back to learning more about Taylor's hashem both the niggler and the cities yes now what was the second question okay let's leave that for another occasion but we never will have another session if you'd like you know I want to prepare for that I do have some kid bits and but I have to think how to say it that what the same one what you say which point stick oh oh oh that nanny's throw made of dense labaik yeah oh yeah okay well listen you know no that's not nothing IIIi I look at you know history I study history I'm looking at the real stuff you know not much stick and not there you know that's not as tight I don't wanna I'm embarrassed to be engaged in such conversation you want to talk about you know look at Deus between between one of the daily and one of the Bible to read this you want to understand why a violent cutler and rep common others didn't want to support these students in Shanghai and why the baggage was upset then it's a legitimate issue that and everyone should conclude what they preclude but it's not it's not childish stuff my father is better than your father and they've been named they've been they need that you got the wrong guy I don't want to engage in that I want to eliminate that it's it's stuck and stupidity it doesn't belong on the mind of people like yourselves you're all intelligent so the baby stuff is over you're 20 plus you know babies anymore come on get into something books of substance substance to understand and again I'm concluding of telling you if you want to understand more about the Babbitt's you have to learn it's tighter that's all going to Maui going to Maui you're not learning about the Babbage philosophy and data you're learning about dissent and the bottom line that we do and color kavadi but where's that coming from why is that why ask yourself why is a person like a pencil Greenberg who could be receiving brisk been 40 plus years in in Buffalo New York what's going down here that that is what to discuss because that's a schita not you know is is my conscience even greater than your Rodgers rebirth and and and all of that so forgive me but I don't want to go that direction what do you say what do you say this is who Evie have you been quiet what do you say [Music] so mr. Bachmann as before but I was I was really curious to hear I guess about was also on touched on the new huh see this it's you mentioned before that a lot of what the rapper would with the original body was attracted to this was though was the warmth and that was what took him away starters from from from being alone okay that's what it sounded like so nowadays it could be that there's no people who are feeling that they need an extra so what I'm saying is the warmth is incisive is what do you need a fitness you have an inclusive is why why must I wear a ponytail or get a mohawk or wear my yarmulke this way or my grandma yarmulke that way and Sam across it if I can wear normal yarmulke and have the same length that's what I'm saying I'm saying is the answer is because you want to show you different so that's your a stick that's it there's place today in Hasidic in authentic considers be it gear being superb it and the package especially of course bressler's to everyone to get that warmth and I agree with you the warmth is so relevant and that's why more and more people gravitate to facilities but but but I'm emphasizing again that's not enough you see if it's only once and it's not intellectualism at the end of the day the eight Sahara has landscape he says come to me you have to have de lumbus you have to have actually you're incorrect not with the ballot on you you're incorrect maybe was about CentOS you're right even there I'm not sure you're right well the bus with the ballot Anya he was he was known as a massive Tom McLoughlin before he came to the market yeah so yeah so by and large before the ballot Anya many of the adherents of the baal shem tov were simple people that's correct and what he introduced is that even the simpleton can understand I call this vertical can can have an understanding of a shed but I'm addressing like what you said before why is it important why not just this once so first of all I answered the question or I addressed your question that you don't need me oh hush citizen for that considers offers that even today and number two I said that that's not enough just a shuffle shake-and-bake is not enough you need to have an understanding and when you have an understanding ie kabab learning and I don't mean only Chabad you can be GERD or breslav but to learn and understand the schita the text what what does that laughs from in other words read not some of restless so we know we got X Y so Ganesha lion which he signs and you know that breslav hassidim and Russia were were ashamed governing and learning for hours they were in in Russia because they were very close with many the roboticle sit in Russia so but you asked today most people know it's about crappy or running to a man for a journal now I have no problem you want if you if you feel a connection in Oh mind if you really do go go comic avoid hot sauce Ella but don't make it into a sub toot for the learning and the avoider and that's much easier it's so much easier feel-good Judaism is so much easier than understand Judaism with a Hasidic flavor and and and and that my friends is really babish tell me the common if they're said yeah they said my am we're not talking about the yet there's a Yid here who the pound of coke come is a relative the bus the river and he told me that he was by Chabad in warsaw years ago for Shabbos in Krakow and he need a trunk and he would have passed in the trunk was already before Shabbos day he says the Chabad drove past him the ponytail whatever and I got to do it No Child Shabbos and he said he was blown away first of all by his ideas his knowledge and I know this road is 40 years old he's not 70 okay and I know who he is and his fruit cut is unison mind that he said although I have a whole group of you guys here who are now the publishers he says my sock is you cannot use and do this Shabbos anymore it's too late no taint you don't like it go elsewhere he didn't say that even say that of course but he but this person came back we met the shul and he said I must tell you and in other words and this person is a bigger time accustomed that there of there but nevertheless nevertheless he says he's so fruit I was blown away Krakow Poland now not a hundred years ago and this is little by virtue so yeah that's what we're talking about yes you're my real fear in all faculties Barco where you have it means something to you it's not just lip service this comes through learning casitas if you will learn you know you said that the one that he's already guarded as of sheer ten minutes if you will learn a little tonya but a little bit but seriously 5-10 minutes a day and think about it and without the strap cities i'm telling you in a year from now your your cup you're us-russia scott seyforth with tempura swedish you'll have nyuk Apple as new heads in English we call this the paradigm shift you start thinking differently about your life and I will help you not just in your learning it'll help you with sandwich seduce him he'll help you with your pronunciation on in so many ways just to tell you another story for 10 years at one second one second a victor for ten years I was teaching Tania to a Jew in midtown Manhattan a businessman at the time he wasn't religious when we started today's a religious person he's about truther in the sixth year so he calls me middle of the week once a week I would go one hour and the train from Borough Park to Manhattan one hour learning and one hour coming back a three hour a stint so so one day calls me the middle of the weekend says rabbi dolphin I want to thank you for teaching me Tanya so I say to him I we have an appointment tomorrow I'm coming to your office why could why are you calling me now you could thank me in person he says I'll tell you why I just came out of a business meeting and there was an ethical question he's little in the insurance business and there was an ethical question how I should act Kenny and I stopped for a second I reflected and I asked myself what would the pain and they say the beta means the prototype of the Tanja the average person who can excel to become a special person in controlling his thoughts of speech in his action and he said I made my decision based on what I learned in Tanja and it's because you have been teaching it for six years Tanja that has a sensitivity to feet this way in regard to my business question so I couldn't control myself I have to thank you for giving that sensitivity what am i bringing out it's not about me what I'm bringing out is the Tanja opens up your cup your head and you start thinking differently yes I did I hear a lot about is that the free liquor really exchanged what Obama should I see this dislike but just to give a big mo that easy to be a very like that lead us sort of to see this for the most intellectual and now you sort of see it as as a populist for the moment almost everybody clinging on to and it's very much lost that this is just a big moment that likes to say intellectual elitist ISM and there's other obviously changes also I think you alluded to the Lubavitcher having sort of change decide so when I hear love an issue world that it's not really such a hunch if yes they learned the Cameo but earlier Lubavitch rebels would be surprised at where the fussy this is right now that that's just some stuff that I would hear so I wonder what you think about that idea as is it a real connection for under fifty twenty years to the bottle time you know or there has there been radical changes started starting from the free burger a book that would make that I see this is is today not recognizable earlier very good question very good point briefly the churn and the makuta is the same today as it was a hundred years ago two hundred years ago ie the togetherness the vine kite the care the observation of the summer all the same I just wasn't rushing I was in Poland my father-in-law was a Russian drew born in the late 20s my uncle my wife's uncle is our mental foot the fossa famous clustered so I communicated in very real life with people who knew from the previous hundred years and I tell you 100% that libido Java cities was never an elitist cussedness that is a fallacy and a factual mistake because learning considers and delving into it intellectually doesn't make you an elitist you know mere tells Lakewood is not Sobotka not only today stuff but just a book of Europe so I thought could you have had an elitist approach which the outer wanted and I've written extensively about this in my book I'm rabbi hood nur who was a Talmud of Slovakia and LaBarge but the others weren't Navarre did for sure not so but but but the famous cup was a receiver of tells in the beginning and and and the greatness receivers what elitism knowing leaders in Bologna we want to understand the Babbage wants to understand divinity God Visa Visa siddhis so it was totally into that but are you kidding you think mostly by vertical see them were rootin tootin intellectuals Albert Einstein's of considers absolutely not they were simple people so as far so so what wait wait so as far as the intellectualism the reason that's not true actually nist Emmis limit as far as the parola of the governing and the learning what else are you gonna do in the speckle if you're even Shiva or the steeple you learning about me we were being oppressed not just us Judaism your ancestors my ancestors there was nowhere to go we came to a new world be in America be there to throw OH what do we do with this you disguised and alumnus so the free that could ever the base of you look who you addressing so I need he'll sharpest stores are opened basic it is great close your spoilers Shabbos so encourages is R abundant to get the congregation and in Baltimore I was there near Johns Hopkins there's a fool I see the Babbage where rabbi Axelrod was the rub and he was a very good friend of the whole Jewish community very well-respected he came there 1925 he passed away in 1952 and Robin Surat goes out to the street I heard from people who were there leading a protest with sighs shame Schmidty Shabbos keep the Shabbos the same thing the moon captured of the Memphis Ellison 7 1932 when the crew came to up from America you must have seen it on the screen on the Yuki where they filmed them as a sharpies evening house and Shabbos Jews keep the Shabbos 1932 mukesh baltimore 1945 46 47 Shabbos who's behind that will of Babbage inevitably I said youths hook sitting in Brooklyn New York is that a departure from European Judaism it's a contrary it's an enhancement taking the germ of learning and governing and bringing it to the world now some argue that the baggage with thousand for many hours are meditate and today there's less of that first of all you have in never yeshiva you have several guys who do that and you haven't every little by budget rules and communities people that do that but yes the previous would ever said and that ever emulated this there's a fire burning outside and we have to extinguish the fire and save people from the fire so yes you're right a victor that once upon a time they didn't look at the situation that a fire is burning and let me tell you cuz I've studied polish jewelry pre Holocaust there was a big fire burning not just polish got live skin and lips and endless awake that's color movement you don't watch love enclosed in 1892 I don't know you've been told but my research and others point to because the house color was rampant that they chased out there was a fever they said if you don't stop Russell Seaver you're gonna get it so they put the rocks on the door if since was the government for spent the closer so what we see we see we see how the Dakota is the same the fact that that that the times call for different presentations that's true so that's my answer to you and just for the record I'll give you just one example and give you many one example do you know that there yosef Bluff there are Shiva tells wrote suited us if he heard of his safe or seen a safer you look into that safer and you go to Cleveland today and not just today but the last 4050 years since they opened in America and you won't recognize tunnels and I know that because there were town needed who would learn through tells in Europe and they came to Cleveland you know to say hello and all that they said this is tells and the answer is it's not the tales of Europe anyone that thinks that politics today is the pong of it that I'm writing I wrote about in my next book of Parnevik has to see a psychiatrist I'm sorry it's factually wrong you can't make up any story you want but it's not and so in every community bit acidic or big lip there's been changes okay you know if you knew about in Poland and Warsaw how the children how youngsters of 11 12 13 would come to the locals people at five in the morning and learn away you would say wait a minute is this the jewelry of Hasidic jewelry today the world was a different world our concerns were different so it's not a fair equation to say Labov it is not the way they were in russia it's true that there are differences but the difference are for everyone for all communities any other yes I have someone send me a copy of this smooth and and guys let's stay in touch I'm serious you know let's touch seven twenty twenty just one twenty twenty month or two ago clap on the beam up and the entire it is and it isn't but I have to explain that and it'll take time I'm not embarrassed to explain it I'm not embarrassed to talk about it I have much to say about it so outwardly you're right this is departure inwardly it's not a departure you know why because I believe you understand see with one thing that lady you took up our ditch of Rights and partially safe them in caduceus lady that you should bet you could bow down or should bow down to it Sadiq how is that different than squid screaming it's here Delano how can you say that you're a lot about down to a human being isn't that afraid to Sara rev Li the yitzhak of bar ditches introduce us lady parts just shifting [Music] casitas is not at the party I see this is tied up and it's the it's the explanation of how we understand tighter and how we use theta so yes it's different than the goings model of using tighter but but it's not at the part so it's a different application but I don't want to argue that right now what I'm saying what I'm gonna but I'm going back to them the good what I'm saying to you is that that you know the saying that you he which is you know very strange and and different them and and and and a departure like you say it's no different that I believe you stop saying what he says 200 years ago introduce us lazy and just like we don't know we need to clarify what rebel idiots up means we need to clarify what that you here don't know not that I would suggest doing that but I understand what they what they want and again I'm not for that approach clearly I feel that that's not necessary but I do understand them and that's what I want you guys to start thinking about understanding each other understanding that's the thrust of my books understanding the different cultures Mohsen Mostafavi are you there what did you want you know I put out weekly clips I'll send you you know the weekly clips you could I I don't you know I always say I'm not like a jukebox you know the other days you go into a dinette that they got that they are luncheonette you put in five cents and it go pop pop it pop it pop it pop it right you know what I mean you don't put a five senses to me and have me spit out stories I don't work that way you know so we're gonna leave it we're gonna leave it at that I know I didn't leave you I didn't make you happy and tell you a story but I'm just not right now in that mindset so please this way this way this way hopefully we'll have another chance and we'll have another conversation and you'll ask me if you want a few stories I'll prepare them and you'll want to talk about some of the other couple pair sizes look guys all the best that's love huh wait but don't listen to me don't don't take off that then all about it none of them above it I don't think what are you hoping for sure they're modern and I'm closing with them no I'm coming back why are you gonna sleep way I'm in you wanna cheer them why [Music]