Can You Interrupt Between Washing & Making Hamotzi - Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 166

progress. >> Okay, good afternoon everyone. We're continuing in we're learning this begins the laws of being ripping it apart, opening it up. the din of interrupting between breaking the bread and washing your hands means between washing your hands and making hami which is interesting we already had that I mean I can't disclose where and why I am but I was on an airplane and for the first time I think I did the right thing I always knew that if you going to eat a meal and you're coming out of the basakis you need to wash twice okay but you can't always wash twice twice if you're on the airplane. There's a line. So if you're at home, so first you wash with less than you make uh then you wash again properly and you make but what do you do if you can only wash once? So the says if you can only wash once so you wash your hands properly, you make and then you say before you eat the bread. Why? Because fundamentally you could really be mafic in between the and eating the bread. So that's and and therefore usually we're careful not to be mafic in between the eating the bread but you're allowed to you're allowed to. That's this that's this say you don't have to be careful about being between and okay that's the tour in the name of the riff and the raam some say that you do have to be careful that is the opinion of the tour from the usi and the says it's also the opinion of the babe the should okay to it's better to be it's better to be zar and not to be between than making says if you delayed the amount of time it takes to walk 22 that's called a heaps now how long does it take to walk 22 am really not that long 22 let's say 44 ft feet. I mean that's uh it's probably under 20 seconds to walk that. In other words, it seems like from the time you say you should make within basically seconds. Now that's not practical, but you know by I don't think I was ever at a shabas meal that anybody ever washed and they made hami immediately. Fine. Take that which it says that as soon as you wash your hands you should have the meal that implies like the second opinion in the that you're not supposed to be between and so how do you how do you understand what the garra says according to the ra and the riff is all the garra means is you shouldn't be involved in any kind of business or any kind of activity uh to the point where you're going to divert your attention or in a long conversation, it's going to bring you to divert your attention. In other words, that which says take uh that which it says take that's referring specifically to as or even if it's but if you are uh just sitting quietly you're not doing any activity in between even if you delay a Or even if you converse a little bit, it is no concern. Since the table is set before you and you have in mind to eat immediately, you won't have. Now, this is a classic example where what people think is not the you ask most people. You're sitting in a shavening is over. Okay, you have two possible times to have a short conversation. Is it better to have a conversation in a or is it better to have a conversation between most people say and to ever speak between but in a what's you're allowed to have a conversation but it's just the opposite in a you can't really have even a short conversation between you're allowed to have a short conversation. So this it's an example of what people's general perspective is is not the okay we're not to have a conversation at all even a short conversation between and but of but fundamentally it's mut that's the first day I mean the first day holds it's you're allowed to talk between the that's the ram and the riff the second day holds you should be careful and according to the second day Even delaying slightly is an issue. Even delaying slightly certainly not to speak in between even a short conversation even to talk in learning according to this day would be an issue unless it's words that are needed for the interrupt according to everyone. Okay. So these are the two opinions the says you're allowed to be mafic you're allowed to talk you're allowed to be but the only issue is according to the first day is if you want to be involved in an asac or you want to do a misa or you want to have and according to the second even is an issue and the's conclusion is it's okay says says, "It's a mitzvah every day before you eat." Yeah, you know about this. We once discussed this when we had the sh on the 10 to have when you eat. One of the things is you should always be mispal for your food. Even if you're sitting down and the bowl of Cheerios is in front of you, so you know it's there already, there's still a mitzvah to before you eat. Those who have a to say at the beginning of audit to be for your food. Okay. What if now like this really you're supposed to before you wash if you forgot to d until after some say you could say this after the is a little bit of a need for a meal. are those who they say between washing their hands and okay. Um so he says but it's better it's better to say it after you make meaning after you make and you ate something. Now the mash the optimal time to say is before even before you wash your hands even though most people they say it at the beginning of the shabas but the sounds like it's better to say it before if you didn't if you forgot some say you could say some are to say it after and under that under those circumstances is he says that's what says >> why would it be a he if it's totally >> cuz it's not really it's not like the food is a missing salt the food is cooked. It just you happen to have forgotten. Okay. So that's not really a spiritual need perhaps is not considered is like the says but if it's just that's now what would you say when is the best time to say the what would you say the holds about is it better to say it after or is it better to say before you wash the is that that implies that it's best to say it even before then he says at the end. But that's that's talking about if you forgot to say it. So does that mean that the does that mean you should change the rice? You know I think in most mirrors they have the mism and the beginning of beginning of the meal. Even shalashudas it's become like ms became after you finish eating you say ms. Is that the wrong place? Okay. Okay. The Mishu seems to say the for sure the of Okay. How long is this is considered even if you're sitting in your place? In other words, let's say you make and you delay even a short amount of time. the amount of time it takes to walk 22 that would be a what about if it's not a delay of time what if it's just change location there are those who are even a small distance Okay. Now, what about walking from the sink to your bread? Is that a heapsick? says, "No, it's not aud to to have a sheer sh of and even getting to the table says not a but works out very well. We bring the bring the water to the table. We should do that every meal really." >> Yeah. But usually only the balabias gets that, you know. Okay. Um fine. I'll ask you I'll ask you after this time. You should not delay at all. So what would you say you should do? Let's say in general you you have a choice. Everyone should have and then you'll be mim let's say you kash and eat right away or you could be mimik. So what's a more important Indian minimizing the heik between the tila and hami oram usually by kdesh we hold it's better for one person to make kdes and bey everyone than for everyone to make kdes right that's the same thing it's better for one person to make and bey everyone the thing is if you do that you're going to end up being between and and the of so is that more or what's more important or the okay? It's not called. Remember we started the Gmorra says what's the definition of So pass like this you should try to make within this whole it's not it's only even if you delayed a long time let's say you delayed 20 minutes you know you washed your hands I know some parents do that they wash and then once all the kids are washed they enjoy the only 20 minutes of quiet the whole the whole the whole year you know it's a it's a ploy so does that work so is um no even if you had a whole conversation you know let's say you said let's learn so the is as long as you didn't divert your attention okay that is sim for