Can You Give Food To Someone Who Doesn't Wash Netilas Yadayim? - Mishna Berura DH Siman 163 Seif 1-2

Okay, good morning everyone. We're continuing. We're up to Sam Giml. We're middle of Alfab said, "If you don't have water available in front of you, more than full 4 mil behind you, 1 mil, wrap your hands in a cloth and you could eat bread or you could eat something dipped in a liquid or you could eat with a spoon. Mishv brought another interesting uh between the and says wrap. The Rama says you could use a spoon. The Mishu said in his opinion the isma you only have to wash one hand according to Rama. You could be lenient. You you only have to wrap one hand according to Rama. You could be lenient and um according to the you would have to wrap both hands because the does not allow the utensil. According to the Rama, you could be lenient and wrap one hand. But then the threw in or eat something dipped in a liquid. What is what's that doing here? You have to wash your hands for something dipped in a liquid and if not you have to wrap them. The answer is yes. Look at the bottom line is you need to use you have to wash your hands. What if you have no map around? You're mapless. You're on a road trip. You have pretzels. You have potato chips. You don't have any maples. Then what? You But what if you have a sandwich? You You don't use a mapa. If you don't have water, you don't have water. You don't have to go without eating. You could eat your sandwich without water and without a map. It's very unlikely. Are you wearing socks? So, no, I don't wear socks. I put my shoe I'm I follow the style where I put my shoes my feet straight into my shoes. Pal, what's wrong with you? Put on socks. That's not a good style. Bad style. Wear socks. Anyway, are we talking about art people who are bare? We're talking about cavemen here. They don't have any handkerchiefs. You're certainly obligated to do this. Get a handkerchief. Use your undershirt. Use your socks. The who requires a map under all circumstances is not a lone view. even that we were just to see it being published also requires a map or you could use a spoon. In other words, let's say you have a salami sandwich and you don't have water and you don't have a mappa. So, eat it with a fork. Just eat it with a fork or a spoon. that question this name where get this from so you say what do you mean where did he get it from why you allowed to wrap your hand in a cloth cuz you're not going to touch it so also if I use a utensil I'm not going to touch it says you can't extrapolate from a cloth to utensil by a hand is covered so even if You don't have full control over your hands, but still what's going to happen? Your hands are covered. Your hand is uncovered. There's more of a concern. You might come to touch. Most people don't have very precise use of their hands. So if they're covered, we're not worried they might come to touch. But gives a very uh difficult answer, a answer, a answer. Therefore, if you have a cloth, you should use a cloth. But the mish is also mashma. If you don't have a cloth that you could use a utensil. What about why did anyone say the following? If you don't have a mapa and you don't have a fork, so then you bend your head down and you consume the sandwich. without you without using your hands like the way Marishan ate from the you know uh Shabas was the yard of the Raami pan the Rami pan says you look by the sin of the sadas he smelled it he tasted it he looked at it he listened he didn't touch it he didn't touch it so why don't they give that I hear. Yeah. It's not an ita. To eat like a kev is not an it. Okay. What if Now here's another let someone else feed it to you. Now this is where comes in. If someone else feeds you, let's say like this, I'm going to touch the sandwich and I'm going to Ruven's going to touch the sandwich. He's going to feed it to Shim. Ruin doesn't have to do but the guy who eats it even if someone else puts in his mouth doesn't touch the food. The same thing as if you eat with a fork. By the way, if you're at a table and there's a fork placed down next to you, that's not just a suggestion. You should use it. Use it. But even if you do, even if you do, you still need the guy who feeds does not. The guy who eats does. You eat with a fork. You need it is to feed someone who didn't wash their hands because of also it's to serve food to someone if they're not not going to wash which is a very big question. If somebody has uh someone who's not observant in their house, can they serve them food if they will not be washing? According to the strict cannot cannot give someone food, they're not going to wash. Let's see the even a feeder even if he's touching the food does not need. Let's say somebody is taking care of an old person and he's feeding them bread. Does the feeder have to wash? No. for the eater. Even though you're being fed, it's loy. It's not better if you eat with a fork than if someone feeds you. But Rab said going back to Alf, if someone doesn't have water, if someone doesn't have a mapa should you ask the guy next to you to feed you? Why isn't that given? Let's say your wife is next to you and you don't have water. Should she feed you? We're not. No, we don't find that. >> If you're in the middle seat on the plane and it's hard to get >> Well, what if she Yeah. Um, she's on the aisle and you're by the window and there's some large gentleman in between. Should she should she feed you? You know, if she does, don't make her count to three like an airplane, you know. just eat it nicely, you know. But is that in other words, you don't have water and you don't have a mappa. The Rama says use a fork. Let's say you don't have a fork. Should you have someone feed you? Or do we say no? No. That that's that's >> what did it says. I can't imagine that satinating like a Right. She ate like a kef and he so I don't know it doesn't it we don't find a takana to have somebody else feed you. Now when when the Rama says it's user to feed someone who didn't wash his hands he doesn't mean to put it in their mouth. It means to serve. It means the to serve. If you know someone's not going to wash, you know how to serve them bread. If you're allowed to. So he brings if you know someone's not going to wash, we're not going to make a even if you ask him. And if you don't serve him food, it's going to be like a he's going to be he's going to hate religious Jews as a give them food. Tell them they need to make a tell them to and if they don't want to listen, they don't listen. But that's the first time. The second time, if you saw they didn't listen, you may not serve them. Why? Because they saw you at your you saw they saw that you're willing to feed them. Now they're being hak that they're not listening to your request. You may not serve them. Says you could give them. Why? Because if you don't serve them, it's possible they'll become more distant from Tyra and they'll come to kas and so you're saving them from rather than bringing them to the shi says it's permitted to serve someone food is not going to make a braha because if you don't serve them they're going to go eat McDonald's but says no No, no, you can't. No, you don't. You don't view as well. What will be a bigger right now or the repercussions that will come about after the fact indirectly? That's not called is your direct action. Anyway, Ramosa was the murdas in America. Ramosha has the same thing regarding uh inviting to the house on chabas. You could do it one time. If they don't listen to you, you could serve them one time according to me. After that, they see that you're a gentleman, but you have specific requests. That's was lenient. Okay. The says you could only not serve them if you know they won't wash. But if your mother certainly the person's poor and you're giving it in a way out as charity we're not nevertheless when you give to an that you're not sure you're not sure whether he'll wash until time or um and you want to give him to eat, you should say, "Please wash your hands." What's the We're talking now about the bread of the feeder. If I have bread, I can't give it to you if you're not going to wash his hand. If you ask me, can pass me my bread. So that's we know that if I'm giving you your own bread, so you could get it without me. You just need me to pass it to you. That's not But what do we call that? That's called Messiah. So I cannot pass you your bread. The same thing is by the way the Rama is saying that I can't give you my bread if you're not going to ask. We're talking about where if I don't give it to you, you won't have bread at all. But what if there's another guy next to you with bread? So me giving you bread is not providing you with something that you wouldn't have had otherwise. You could get it elsewhere. So then it's downgraded from to me. There's a shock and regarding anaran whether the applies to a well-known avarian there might be a leniency with that. He says primagadam the what does the primagadam say? The primagadam says on an isana we don't say. So if we're only dealing with this is very interesting. If you're only dealing with he's not going to wash he's not going to make and it's his bread. So all I'm doing is or it's my bread but he could get bread easily. So you're only dealing with Messiah. The premodium holds there's no den messiah on an issue brings if you want to sell food to someone who's not going to make a bra and he could buy that food in a different store. There are five stores on the block I'm allowed to do it because question aska what how does it help for me to ask him to make a braha let's say I have food and I nap comes to the house say you have to make a braha okay sure what's what's his braha worth he's making a braha that's not a braha in his mind he's m to uh his so no it could be if you ask the brings that the is of is to feed him immediately. What about to give him bread that he's going to take home? He's going to take home and eat there. That's mut because maybe there I don't really get the of that. If you know he's not going to wash, why maybe there has a lot of troubas about this subject. Are you allowed to rent out a hall to uh people are going to make a wedding with mixed dancing which would be uh uh if not worse are you allowed to do it I believe he says you are allowed to do it and he makes that it's only to facilitate when you give them the that they're going to do the with as opposed to the space in which they're going to do the is there's a very big difference if I'm giving them food they're not going to make I'm giving them the with doing a they're not doing the a with the wedding hall they're doing the a in the wedding hall there are many many brought in the I think we have a on it there's a in the about these kind of things okay we'll hold it over Recording stopped.