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Can Prayer Change G-d's Mind? Yes & No - Philosophy vs. Kabbalah
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The unique part about this talk is what
we're going to do. We're going to bring
up a philosophical question asked
over the ages, but we're going to answer
it from a few different perspectives.
One of them, which adds a nice dimension
to this talk, is going to be Kabbalah.
Now, early Jewish philosophers, really
not all of them learned Kabbalah because
the Kabbalah became hidden. So, when we
speak about Jewish philosophers,
sometimes they're discussing a topic,
for example, like prayer without using
anything from Kabbalah.
Now, later, the Kabbalah became more
revealed. And so, today we can take
these same discussions and contrast the
way Kabbalah addresses them and standard
Jewish philosophy. So, the biggest
question that comes up when discussing
the idea of prayer. Prayer is full of
amazing ideas. We talk to God.
Obviously, it implies that God listens,
God cares, God can answer. A a lot of
fundamental of life and Judaism really
are connected directly to the concept of
prayer.
But a huge question that is discussed
from the early Jewish philosophers is
how does prayer really work? How can it
work, actually, for that matter? Um you
know, God is all-knowing, perfect in
everything he does, sees beginning and
end, beyond time, within time,
everything. God is unbelievable,
omnipotent. Can prayer change God's
mind? So, let's imagine a particular
case. God has decided to give you
something, either positive or negative.
So, can your input, can your dialogue
with God alter that? Can it affect that
and bring about a different result? And
the problem with that is this, God is
seemingly untouchable. He's perfect, his
calculations are perfect. So, let's say
God decided a person deserves to be
punished for whatever reason.
And the punishment is going to the
transcend and come manifest itself in
the form of a sickness.
Now, a person is sick, he's in pain,
and he decides to pray, "Hashem, I'm
suffering. This sickness is is hurting
me. It's causing me to be depressed.
Please God, send me a a refuah. Heal
me." So, you're essentially asking God
to change something that he has clearly
decided to do to you.
Now,
a separate point which is important to
understand, God doesn't punish for the
sake of punishment. He's not trying to
get even with you. And he doesn't want
to see you hurting. The punishment is
itself to your benefit. So, if we add
that to the scenario, it becomes even
more complicated. This sickness has been
sent to you to cleanse your soul of
whatever blemishes the sins you've done
have caused. So, the the ultimate
punishment of the sickness is for your
benefit. It's going to help
make you become the person that you need
to be.
And that's why it was sent to you. But
now, you don't want it. So, you're
asking God, "Please take it away." So,
why would God take that away? If he
takes it away, it might leave you with
the blemishes that that the sickness
itself came to to to fix and and and and
remove. So, seemingly asking God to
remove a negative experience that you're
going through is counterproductive. It's
wrong. So, why would we do that? And
furthermore, how in the world would that
end up working?
Now, if we look at the positive side,
it's less dramatic, but let's look at
the positive side as well.
God has decided uh not to We're going to
go the not down. Not to grant you a
particular positive thing. For example,
let's say you would love a beautiful
luxurious car. And the nice thing is it
can get expensive, and of course, that's
another issue. In order to have it, you
it requires about $100,000, so you can
buy it. And that's what you would love.
And for some reason, in the deep
recesses of your heart and your mind,
there's a calling there. You're like,
"I would love to have a nice uh
luxury car, Mercedes, Lexus, whatever it
is."
Um now, God knows our thoughts and knows
our feelings, so God's aware of this
desire that you have. So, imagine we are
somehow sending him this message, even
if it's subconsciously, that God, I
would love this car.
Assuming you believe in God, so
ultimately all your requests and desires
are going to be directed towards him.
So, you're asking for this car. Now, God
has decided that you don't necessarily
deserve or should have this car. But, as
a result of you're now longing for it,
wanting it, and even if you simply pray
for it and say, "God, can I please have
a luxury car?"
Now, is that How is that going to change
God's mind
and grant you that luxury car? It's It
seems to be beyond the ability and power
of a human being to do such a thing. So,
these are the questions and the
perspectives that the Jewish
philosophers bring up.
Now, what I'd like to do is answer this
question from a perspective of Jewish
philosophy, and I'm in fact going to
answer first by giving the very answer
that the Sefer Ha-Ikarim, or Rabbi
Joseph Albo himself, offers. But, we're
going to extend this talk to include
Jewish mysticism, mainly Kabbalah, to
bring a new answer and a
in some ways a deeper answer to this
question. Now, it's interesting to point
out the early Jewish philosophers, not
all of them learned Kabbalah. And
Kabbalah is an essential part of our
Torah. So, ultimately one can actually
say, without the the system of Kabbalah
and its knowledge and the results that
we take out from it,
any type of discussion that you analyze
and come to conclusions with on
might be lacking in some way. And so, we
will hopefully appreciate first of all,
the philosophical answer, but see how
the mystical Kabbalah answer comes and
opens up a new dimension for us. So,
let's start with the first answer.
So, the answer of the Ikarim is this.
It's true that
you, John, uh Mr. So-and-so, it's true
that God has decided for you, the way
you are, who you exactly are right now,
that you deserve to be sick in our first
example, or you don't deserve to have
this car you want.
But, if you can change who you are,
then perhaps the new person that you
become
requires a new decision from God. Right?
So,
so for example, with the sickness, you
were sick because of some negative
character trait in yourself. You were
overly haughty or for a sin you did. So,
the sickness came as a punishment or as
a vehicle to help you to change. Now,
let's say you take the message the right
way and you decide, you know what? Cuz
all the time you're sick in bed, you
have a lot of time to think and at the
end all of the thinking leads you to
realizing that hey, I'm not the person I
want to be.
I did this that wasn't right. My
attitude is off and you do sincere
chuvah. You repent and you change and
you resolve to be this better person.
So, essentially in in in making that
shift in who you are, you're a different
person now. We'll call you instead of
person A, we'll call you person B.
Interestingly, God never decided on
person B, this new person that you have
become through this process of
repentance,
that you can't have what you want. That
you can't that first of all that you
can't have the car or that you need to
be sick. So, essentially on this new
person, person B, God reevaluates. It
says, "You know what?
You deserve the car
or you don't deserve to be sick
anymore." And guess what?
Then the Mercedes dealer drops off a car
in your parking lot or the sickness goes
away.
So, essentially his answer is
to the question we started with can
prayer change God's mind is a resounding
no. Never. Absolutely not. It's an
insane thing to think that. How can I
change God's mind? It makes no sense.
It's it's it's almost lunacy.
So, what are we doing instead?
We're changing ourself.
So, the idea of praying to God is meant
to change me. It's meant to help turn me
into a different person with a different
standing
in God's eyes, more righteous, whatever
the details are. And it's that new
person that can receive the things he's
asking for. So, prayer is not a
guarantee to get what you're asking for,
but it is it is it is a possibility to
receive those things or to remove the
negative things. And the answer is you
don't change God's mind, it's you that
changes.
Now, it's interesting on this entire
approach, I haven't found really in
writing anyone that brings up a question
on it. But in in my studies and I also
included it in the book I wrote on
prayer. There's actually a book out
there anyone interested called The Power
of a Whisper, which addresses the faith,
philosophy, and mysticism involved in in
the concept of prayer. And so, the
question I bring there is this.
If it's chuvah, if ultimately it's
repentance that is causing you to change
in God's eyes and to become able to
receive the good or to remove the bad
situation that you're in, then in in
fact, it's not prayer but chuvah that's
doing this. So, why is this all the
question involved in prayer? Why do we
ask how does prayer work? Can prayer
change God's mind? And we say no, prayer
changes the person and then he can get
what he's asking for.
But it's not prayer. We just explained
that really the prayer is chuvah. So, if
it's chuvah, repentance, so forget about
prayer. Why do I need to sit there and
talk to God? Furthermore, why am I
asking him for what I want? I should
just be saying God, give me what you
think is best. But the real the point of
the question is forget about prayer,
just let's do chuvah and we'll get
everything that that's best for us.
Okay, you want to throw in a request
here and there, fine. But it's not
prayer that's doing it. It's chuvah.
It's repentance. It's becoming that new
person. So, what's the uniqueness to
prayer
that's connected with all this idea?
So, for that I think in order to
appreciate we have to go a little bit
deeper into what prayer really is. What
are we trying to accomplish when we
pray? And of course, for this we have to
appreciate we're not talking about the
ritual prayer that we, you know, stand
up, sit down, bow down, stand up, sit
down. That's not what I'm talking about.
We're not talking about reading a bunch
of words that you don't even understand
what they are because that's what you
were told to do when you were a little
boy. We're talking about prayer as a
dialogue. It's a conversation
with you and God where in fact you get
to do most of the talking and God is
doing the listening. Unbelievable.
Imagine you can go to
Donald Trump's popular today as a
president. Actually, I think they want
to kick him out. But imagine you go to a
millionaire, billionaire
and speak to him and he'll he's going to
listen to you and he's going to care.
And imagine that experience.
Unbelievable.
The opportunity. Now think about Hashem.
Hashem is an eternal, all-knowing,
perfect being
that it is knows you better than you
know yourself. And you're going to now
try to have a dialogue with God talking
to God. You know, talking to God, which
is what prayer really is,
is is really why in fact God gave us the
power of speech in the first place.
Let's go back to the first person.
Adam. You know who's the first What's
the first thing Adam did when he was
created? He spoke. To who? To God. There
was no one else around to talk to.
So we can see in Adam's first action
this essential idea of a dialogue and a
connection between us and our creator.
Prayer is something that is embedded in
the core of our being. To turn to God
with the power of speech he gave us and
use it to communicate and talk to him.
This can also be done in thought, but
speech adds an added dimension and a
power because the audible speech is more
real to us. It helps us in a in a
different way as well.
So the idea is this.
When I know that I'm talking to someone,
so I relate my ideas and what I I'm
going to say to that person I'm talking
to.
So if I know I'm talking to a smart
person or someone who's a judge or
someone who's going to be let's say, you
know, be
be wanting to decide things for me. So
I'm going to gauge what I say based on
the circumstances and the person I'm
talking to.
So once I know that I'm talking to God,
so then obviously I'm going to relate to
that God that I'm talking to as much as
I understand of him.
So when I think of God being eternal,
creator, giving, loving, powerful,
It's going to cause me to look through a
lens in order to speak to God properly.
It's going to make me think about
reality more, eternality more, purpose,
morality, because that's the being I'm
I'm I'm approaching. So, prayer is an
opportunity to really go deeper inside
yourself
and reevaluate and and change your
perspectives. Talking to God is like
therapy. It's like talking to someone
that's going to help almost fix and
straighten out your perspectives. So,
what happens when I talk to God in
prayer is I become a different person
because of the talking, because of the
praying. Praying is a is is a is a is a
process that transforms me. It makes me
into this new me that is this better me.
So, now we can appreciate it is prayer
that's at working. Why? Cuz it's
specifically prayer that helps create
and and and and affect this chuva on
you. It's specifically the repentance
and the new you that is the result of
praying. That's the what we were
speaking about before that you change.
It isn't just simple repentance, I
regret my sins and I'm not going to do
it anymore. That's that's a separate
thing. The chuva of prayer is this inner
dialogue within you, this this this this
analysis within you, and this new you
that is the result of all of that. So,
talking to God really helps you become
this new and better person, and that's
why it's specifically through prayer
that you can receive now this better
life, the things that you've been
missing, the things that have been
blocking you can be removed. That's
specifically through prayer.
Okay.
So, I think with with Hashem's help, we
are hopefully understanding now of this
first approach. Prayer is a powerful,
unbelievable gift from Hashem, and when
we use it properly, it helps us to grow
and to draw close to Hashem and to
receive all the good he wants to give
us. Unbelievable.
Let's shift now to a different
perspective like I said. Let's now look
at what Jewish mysticism masters say
about prayer. Kabbalah and the different
ideas that have really been hidden for
so long, but today they're available to
us Baruch Hashem to understand.
So,
again, addressing the same question, can
prayer change God's mind? The answer to
that unbelievably almost insane question
is, yes.
Prayer can change God's mind. How?
Let's appreciate really who God is.
When we pray to God, who are we really
praying to? What are we praying to? What
is God? Who is God?
So, if we look in one of the Hebrew
books of prayer, we'll find actually
there are a lot of different names for
God. God doesn't have one name. God has
many names. Now,
what does that mean? Why? Why do we say
one time this name, one time another
name? And it's all the same God. If he's
one God, let him have just one name.
So, the answer is that really when we're
talking to God,
we're talking about the different ways
that God is manifest in this world, the
different ways he reveals himself to us.
Sometimes God reveals himself as a
loving father, sometimes as a king that
is judging his people, and sometimes
that judgment can be harsh.
So, in general we divide these two main
characteristics of divine revelation and
divine manifestation into two
categories. One is
judgment and punishment, and the other
is love, loving kindness and giving.
So, really when you think about it like
this,
what your life will be, what you will
receive from God whether good or bad,
will depend on which mode of judgment
you are experiencing from God.
And so, here's the trick.
Prayer has within it the power to help
change God's attribute of judgment and
punishment and transform it into the
attribute of love and kindness, which
can result in
beneficence, good things. Hashem being
kind and giving.
This in fact is an unbelievable thing
because it's mentioned in the prayers we
actually say in the morning.
And it's brought in the Gemara a few
places. God himself actually prays. A
very fascinating idea, God prays. And
for that we have also confusing
questions. What does God pray for? Who
does he Who's he praying to? He's God.
How can He's How can he pray to anybody?
So, the answer is God prays to himself.
It's this inner dialogue within God, the
two attributes, the attribute of
kindness and judgment that work
together. And when God's praying is
really a dialogue between these two
modes of judgment and and how God reacts
and treats us.
Uh the question we also want to ask is
what does God pray for? So,
fascinatingly enough, God prays really
for us, so to speak. He prays that his
kindness should overpower his
punishment, his judgment, and that he
should be kind to his creations. That's
what God wants to be. So, the In this
approach, the unbelievable power of
prayer is also something that God put in
creation. It's It's It's a It's a part
of the process that God created where he
relates to us and he gives to us. We
just have to do our part in this process
in talking to Hashem, trusting in
Hashem, and that creates that two-way
street, so to speak, where we can then
arouse God's love for us, which bypasses
the judgment. So, that's that's the
deeper appreciation according to a more
mystical Kabbalah approach to the power
of prayer. Prayer has the power to
change God's mode of judgment from
judgment and punishment to kindness and
love.
And so, are we changing God's mind? So,
maybe yes, maybe not, but we're changing
his mode of judgment, which I in the
original said is like changing Hashem's
mind. And it is in some ways almost like
changing Hashem's mind because again, if
someone is in between two decisions,
whether I should do this or shouldn't do
this,
so, in a if we can have some input there
to
push it in one direction, so we're
having an effect. We're We're causing
some change there. So the unbelievable
reality is that the power that we have
that Hashem gave us to pray
is in fact a power that can change what
we're going to get from Hashem and and
change his mind on some level. Now the
trick is this, we're not really changing
his mind. This is all what Hashem wants.
Hashem said, "I'm going to create
something called prayer. When you
utilize it and you pray to me, then I'm
going to be nice. I'm going to then
give." It's what Hashem wants in the
first place. So it's really because
Hashem really wants this
is why it works.
And again, it's not a guarantee. If
Hashem absolutely doesn't want to
change, then he's not going to change.
So really God's ultimately in full
control and it's out of this control
that he gave us this power to pray and
to soften the treatment we get.
You know, cuz we knew that we're not
going to always be perfect. We're not
going to always be deserving. Even if
we're not deserving, so we have the the
the special beauty of prayer, the power
of prayer to come and ask and as a
loving father still get things we want,
the things we need. Because Hashem loves
us. So that's the ultimate really the
power of prayer is that Hashem loves us
and Hashem wants to give.
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