Camp Nesher’s 30th Anniversary Previewed w/ Jeff Braverman & Johnny Shlagbaum on JM in the AM

And you are listening to America's one and only Jewish moments in the morning radio program heard on listener sponsored digital radio around the world. The webc.com on the nominal network and of course the beloved NSN app. Guess what? Camp Neshair is celebrating its 30th anniversary honoring our good friend Jeff Braverman. I cannot possibly think of a better guest of honor for a Camp Neshair 30th anniversary celebration. And it's happening this coming Saturday night at Congregation Keter Torah in Tene, New Jersey. It starts at 8:00 p.m. And with the many, many decades that Jeff spent over at Camp Nesh, I'd imagine that there are thousands of alumni and staff members who served very happily, at least the majority of them. Uh I am sure many many people listening right now and who eventually will hear this broadcast once it's sent out to everybody on every list out there, uh who are going to want to attend this coming Saturday night. Go to campneshair.org. org/neshair3030. Again, that's campneshair.org/neshair3030. And the rumor is that as Jeff Braverman moves on, our good friend Johnny Schlagbomb is going to be taking over uh the the helm, the top position over at Cap Neser. So, Cap Neser, a place that I joked with these gentlemen that I've never visited. I have been a fan since day one. And we welcome both Jeff Braverman and Johnny Schlagam into our studio here at JM and the AM. Good morning, sir. Good morning. Thank you so much for uh for having having us in. >> Yes. Unessor oldtimers. >> I'm a little bothered by the fact that yes, we were joking about the fact you haven't been yet. You and Johnny are making plans for this summer. >> Well, Johnny's hellbent on making sure I visit. So, I can't blame the guy. >> This is going to be his first summer. >> Oh, did I Oh, there we go. Sorry, Johnny. Go ahead. >> There. He's going to This is going to be his first summer here. That's it. 30 years. And Johnny Schlagmo's going to get him to come. >> How many times have I been to Lake Ko in my life? But finally, I'll stop by Cam Nesher, Ben Edar, as they say. And let's alert Josh Nittoski also as I'm already coming to Neshair. I should take a tour of his facility that he's invited me to a million times to come see. So, Lake Ko has expanded over the years, huh, Mr. Braverman? >> It uh it has. >> It's become a thing. >> It has. >> It's a Jewish neighborhood. >> It really has. And Josh Khovski, a product of uh you know, Camear alum. Yes. He's one of our boys. He's uh he now has camp camp komo pizza there with this pizza and sushi and all the >> So that's why you guys get preferential treatment in downtown Lake. >> No such thing. No such thing. Everyone gets preferential. >> No, I get that. But you guys are like VIPs and now I understand why. Amazing. So Neshair's first year was what year? >> Summer. The summer of 96 was our first summer. >> Wow. >> And uh yeah, it's uh it was a minute or two. >> And I'm not joking when I say thousands of alumni staff members. I mean, it's no joke. We we think we figured >> we figured a few years back we were getting pretty close to that 10,000 mark. So, we've we've surpassed that. And uh >> and just for this Saturday night's event, the committee is impressive. You got some amazing names on this committee. I'm assuming it's going to be well attended Saturday night. Are you getting that feeling? >> We are getting that feeling. We're seeing that. We're factually seeing that with we're also we're also we're also getting uh we're getting notes and and uh >> we're getting support from many many of our alums who are are alum who are not anywhere near here who unfortunately can't come. We do have some people who are coming in which is really really nice. >> Other areas of the country. >> Other areas of the country and out of this country. Toronto we have uh we have coming >> Toronto, Florida, Israel. >> People people who've who've just written notes and said this is uh this is a place that has has meant so much to us. >> We know what camp does for people. >> I mean it's it's really incredible. I I don't know. >> The colleagues that you have out there, a lot of camps doing great jobs and really enhancing everyone's education as youngsters. >> Yeah, >> we know that. What year was your first year? >> My first year was as a camper in 1998. >> Oh, early on. >> Very early. Second year of camp and third year of camp, sorry. And uh I didn't really know. Have >> you been there since people? No. So I came in 1998 as a camper. I was there for two years as a camper, five years as a staff member. I was sports staff uh assistant athletic director. I met my wife in camp Alana Rosenbound. Now Alana Schllockb and uh 12 years later um I came back a couple were do we know? >> Three. >> You know that for a fact. >> I think number three. >> I have Well, we have a list. >> I have a list. We're we're in our We're in our upper 30s. >> Hey, you're a real Jewish kid. You got a list. You're a real Jewish kid. >> Got a list. >> I met my basher, >> right? It's all about the matchmaking. That's what it's all about. Anyway, >> that' be a good t-shirt for Saturday night. I met my basher. >> Yeah. >> That's right. Well, >> it's an old tradition in co-ed camp. So, can I tell you? >> I remember. I remember very well growing up in Maresa. The I met my basher at shirt sweatshirts. >> Did you start the first year? Do you remember what year was your first year in Marisha? >> No, my first year in Marisha. I was in Nitan. I was in um >> It was 74. >> Wow. So, you remember 81, the 18th anniversary? >> Yeah. Yeah. I was >> 74. It's like year 12, year 11. >> Yeah, I was there. I think I was the was it the year before they put in the stairs to the Marazia. >> Wow. >> Something like that. I just saw Zush uh Zush Motion great grandson's bris Barak Hashem the other morning. It was great. It was >> He's not a great grandfather. Come on. >> He's just a great grandfather. >> Unbelievable. I knew this would turn into a memory lane thing, but we do have to talk. So you Johnny Schlagdown, you are now officially the director. I am officially the director. >> You're the head honcho. >> It's a little crazy. >> You're the chief. You're the man. >> Unreal. >> John, >> do you walk into camp this summer at all? Like, are you going to be there at all >> this? We'll see. We'll we'll see. First of all, Johnny Johnny's letting you wait. >> No, I got it. Well, on my coattails, maybe invited, >> but no official role like you're not you're not required to be there. >> I'm not required. I I am officially the director of Meredith. I am >> advisory role. >> Yes, I am helping I'm helping out a little bit here or there, helping. Uh we're we are uh we're working on some some really cool things. I'm helping with uh some much needed fundraising at Neshair. Yeah, we're working on um >> because you're affiliated with How does it work? >> Well, Campeshire is a camp of the New Jersey Y and always has been. >> Yeah, we I was hired by NJ camps. >> Um originally originally way back when it was a uh it was a a partner project with the Safari Community Center in year one. I was uh I was a co-director with Marty Masowitz. We started this camp together at NJ camps and they partnered together with Spafarta Community Center originally with the idea to make a camp uh for for uh for that community as well. I was going to bring the Ashkanage piece and and Marty was going to bring kind of represent from the Sphartic uh uh the Syrian community to bring the summer camp together. And uh well back then in year one uh we we ended up with 93 Ashkanazi kids and three from this partic they weren't ready to to leave uh leave deal for the summer just yet. Um it was a great idea. It was a great concept but after that first summer uh you know that partnership uh ended um and uh and I I took over myself. >> Are there other Y camps? Are there other New Jersey camps? >> Yes. New Jersey Y Camps uh is an incredible organization. Which ones would I have heard of >> in Milford? I don't know if you will have heard of them or not, but Camp Najua and Cedar Lake and team camp. >> Najua was was Msura for a year. >> Right. So Najoua rented their campground to Right. Right. Right. >> Cedar Lake, you said >> Cedar Lake. Um Yeah, that's Najoua is their camp for first through sixth grade. Cedar Lake is their camp for 7th through 9th grade. And then they have a teen camp for uh for 10th and 11th grade. >> You've heard of camp Surprise Lake? >> I have. I have. No. May I bring it up? >> Why do you bring it up? >> I had someone at my Friday night shabas table this past week, just a couple of nights ago, who um in 1969 was in Camp Surprise Lake, which I was surprised to find out is still open. >> Yeah. >> And is the longest running Jewish summer camp in this country >> that I did not know. >> Yeah. Started started in the 1920s. >> Started in 1920s. And if you ask the legendary people in the world, like I asked Stanley Felzinger, you know, like some of the legendary people in Jewish camping, they all were familiar with the camp as it was. >> Well, New Jersey New Jersey why celebrated a hundred years ago a few years ago. Really? So that's interesting. >> Did they start before 1920? >> They I I think they started I think it was is it 1919? >> So maybe it's an independent. That could be. But >> wow, >> they're both legendary. >> You know what? Once you once you pass that, >> we'll give it all. We'll give everyone the century mark. >> They all get their due to say the least. >> We're pretty happy we made it to 30. >> Say that again. Uh meanwhile, Lake Como to the to the casual observer has become known for two things. You know, it's funny. You guys know how incredible the programming is, how fantastic your staff is, all the great things that are happening every day. And obviously, you've gotten to the point, as you said, where you have thousands and thousands of satisfied, you know, camper steppers. But as an outside observer who just hears the news of what's going on in the mountains, we hear two things about Lake Ko. You ready? Bears, which were not there in our day, I don't think. >> Right. Well, they they they were, but not to this extent. You don't remember? Like sometimes they go bear bear and the guys would go and grab bats. You remember that? >> Yes, I remember. Yeah. Yeah. And and people would say, "What are you going to do when you get to the bear? What are you going to do with your plan? What's the endgame there with the bear? With you and your bat, Mr. Tough Guy. >> But is am I right or wrong that your camp has had the most encounters with them? Is that not true or it is in your Def. >> It's not true. Definitely not. >> AND IT'S SO FUNNY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SEEPS in from upstate to here. >> No, no. Years and years and years ago, in the very very early years, we had a situation with a bear. >> But today, it's nothing like that. And what happened was that caused me to make a decision to rid all food from campuses. And if >> which a lot of the camps followed, by the way, >> they did follow after a little bit of, you know, we're not going to, but they did follow us. >> But, uh, we we had an incident. But after that, once we cleaned up, uh, we >> I hear the Pringles company suffered. Is that true or not? >> That, by the way, it's the number one question I get. Johnny, now that you're taking over as director, are you going to have food in the bunks? YEAH, NOW'S THE TIME. I GOT TO TAKE SOME WINS, JESS. >> Now's the time. Now's the time to leave your mark. >> Let's just see. Let's Let's see what the changes. >> THIS IS THE WHO MISSES BRAVERMAN ERA. Come on. >> And of course, the other thing is, and we hear about this all the time from Lake Ko, is power outages. >> Oh, that's been crazy. >> Including this past summer. >> This past summer was nasty. >> It's been crazy. >> But you know what's funny about the whole thing? when I saw because how do I think how how do I how do I know about this? Nobody I think you'll agree with. I think you'll agree with this. How do I know about any of this? Because I go to the castles for a shabas or two and of course parents are up there and this is what they're talking about. It seems to me that the resilience of the kids even today is remarkable. Even with the spoiled atmosphere we have and everything that goes on in 2025 and every convenience that every kid is used to, it still seems like they handled it well. Am I exaggerating or not? >> You're not exaggerating. But they had a little bit of help. Something that wasn't there in previous years. >> And that is, >> you know who really has benefit fitted? The generator companies. >> And they're available. These generators. >> We have we now have generators. We have generators. We have generators. We have permanent generators on our on our health center on our office on our water well. So you are never losing water and you are never losing and you're never losing power in the dining room. So the bunks is the problem. >> So the now it's the bunks and and that so yes you need there you need resilience and you still need that but in the old days meaning as of even four or five years ago >> you needed and and we had some some lengthy power outages and you need that resiliency. >> So when you hear that that the power has gone out now it's not nearly the same panic as it was. >> Not the same panic. No, it's not lining up cars along the way and and lighting all your tishabove torches and and having like a tishabove march from the karoka after dinner every night to get back to. >> You basically remember everything that's happened. >> It went pretty well. It really went well this year. I mean it was like 3 4 days that we were without power >> over a shabas. >> Over a shabas but the weather really cooperated. Really cooperated. It was nice and cool actually. So it really helped. But what came through was this year with the big one. We had hail size of golf balls. Right. Actually, I'm going to show you a picture when we're done. I'm going to show you. I have the picture. >> Were the kids indoors at least? Yes. >> Yeah. We got everyone indoors person indoors. >> Just got them. It came. It was It happened for about 10 minutes. It caused ruin throughout camp. It left. The sun came out. >> Buildings of July power was knocked out for like 3 4 days. And uh it was it was great >> because I got to tell you and I hate to bring this up but I'm sure it's gone through your minds. >> You know that obviously camper safety is the is the number one priority. >> Yes. >> And I I can't even read a story anymore about what happened in Texas. I can't I can't even I see it come on the TV. They have a lawsuit now. I tell Stacy I got to change the channel. It it's it's crazy. It is the greatest pad, the greatest fear of of being a camp director, of being anybody on a staff, of any, you know, supervising in any capacity. And that's why I say when these hail golf balls show up, people don't realize that you've got to take action to protect it. God forbid one kid suffers some type of serious anything, >> right? >> That is that is and I've been asked I've been asked a lot of questions over all of my years. You know what makes you lose sleep? What makes you And to be a camp director, a sleepa away camp director, you >> you have to have a certain >> Yeah. >> Yeah. There there's a certain um you have to be able to really prioritize in your mind what's important, >> correct? >> And what isn't. Um, and there are you and you also just have to be able to be quick on your feet and make the decisions quickly that you have to make >> even if they're unpopular cuz kids don't always like to run indoors when there's an opportunity to mudslide. >> It's it's it is crazy. And and and you also you have to like I'm actually I'm not I'm a pretty laid-back kind of guy. I don't. But when it comes to the safety in camp, I can get I can get pretty riled up and pretty tough and pretty scary and and that's just, you know, and kids don't understand it's for their own safety. >> Only way to do it. >> I'm smiling and laughing because I remember after this blackout um a day later for like 5 minutes the power went out and all of campus came marching up to the office. Remember what they were chanting? No power, no shower. Yes, we had that brief brief brief power outage. Everyone thought it was and >> after 4 days of having no power and then the power coming back on and then it went off for like 5 minutes and everyone's like, "Oh no, not again." >> But Boyce Campus uh made light of the situation. >> These are these are the stories. These are the moments >> that uh that on on Moz Shabas people are going to be talking about from all their various years. You know how many times people will ask me, "How do you know how to do that like a skill or how do you know how to handle this type of situation?" It always comes back to camp. It always comes back to camp. You're without your parents. You're a kid or a staff member on your own. You're making decisions. You're figuring out what to do. It's you don't realize it until obviously you get to all these years later. How how much of an effect a good camping exper I I always make the argument and boy, I don't know. I don't know what our friends, the principles of the schools think whenever I say this, but if I had a choice of sending a kid to camp as opposed to the other 10 months sending us to school, >> I I probably in the end would choose camp. >> It's uh >> because, you know, it just it's so valuable. It's such a valuable experience in so many different ways. All right, Jeff Braverman and Johnny Schlag Bammer are both in our studio. They stole our concept about past, present, and future on their uh ad. You stole our uh our little idea that we've been doing for 40 years. I'm I'm going to forgive you guys. I know you both so well. I'm going to forgive you. >> Steal is is a strong deal. >> At least we didn't do Hold on, Jeff. At least we didn't do Lorador. >> We didn't do Lorad. >> Lor Vador. We see everything. Oh, Lorador. Lorad >> because they wrote honoring our past, celebrating our present, building our future. Many people would think that's a take off of what we say, but hey, >> you know what? >> We're friends. We can you can do it really. Some people learn things from camp, others learn it from JM in the AM. Okay. I have been coming to JM in the AM since my first little tape that I made back in 1990. So, I've been listening. Uh, you know, I you have impacted me greatly. >> That tape came up in conversation. I wish I would remember where it came up recently in conversation. I don't remember what it was. Maybe a school was performing one of your songs or something. >> That could be. But not only that, but back five year at Foreshare 25, we did a a video uh like a an online remember I called you about that we were going to raise money online kind of thing. Allah your your marathon and I got some advice from you that we did we did call. >> Well, speaking speaking of his tapes, sorry, just shameless Jeff Braverman plug over here. Um this past summer for one of the you know, we were trying to think of moments throughout the summer how we can honor Jeff, right? And uh for Shiraya this year we had each campus do a song or really a mashup of songs. >> That's what I heard >> from Jeff. >> Maybe that's what I heard. >> And it was amazing because a lot of the kids, you know, they're younger kids. They haven't heard a lot of the stuff out there from the 1990s and you know early 2000s and we did some of Jeff Jeff's classics and it was amazing. >> Who was actually >> they pulled it off. >> It's very >> Oh, it was amazing. >> Who is your music director? Um well for all the way through it's been Daniel Hanken. Um yeah until recently choice 2019 who's going to be doing it this coming summer. Do we know? >> So this past summer his son Sammy Hanken took over took over. >> Also talented huh? >> Oh my gosh. >> And will he be there again? >> Exactly. God willing he will be there. >> Middle of negotiations. >> He sounds >> Hey, it's only November now. >> It's amazing. He sounds exactly like his father. I know what goes on in November and can't be. Don't worry. I I know about the flexibility of this month. >> We're working on it. We're working on it. >> It ain't like negotiating in June. I can tell you that much. >> All right. This coming Saturday night, the Camp Ner 30th anniversary celebration. All you're asking people to do is show up. Especially if they're Neser alums or Neser staff members. >> They should come and enjoy. Reminisce. >> Yes. Reminisce. That's what it's all about. >> Come say come say hello. Come join your friends. See, see, you know, your past potentially your past campers, your past counselors. Rabbi Tully Besser, >> he's coming. >> He will be coming. Reva Borggan, camp mother, the original camp mom. >> Daniel will be there. And we have we have staff and campers from year number one who will be there as well. >> Amazing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Amazing. >> Yeah. We We've got camp moms. Camp mom number one, Reva Borggan. I I think I saw Dossi Silverman on on the >> Our current mom, Alyssa Green. >> I I saw Viva Goldwatch. We're going to go camp moms. Alyssa, right? Camp moms. Many are coming. All these cat moms who took care of you throughout the years. Come say hello to them. Um just, you know, Rabbi Kramer is going to, you know, just the the names of people coming. Uh there's just a lot and it's it's really going to be special. Well, you know, Nam, I was looking the other day at the list, which which grows every day, and it's a really incredible, daunting, and a little bit overwhelming for me to look at a list and realize that I know every single name. Every every name. There's not one name on that list that I don't know. And that somehow I I have had some sort of relationship with I mean I have some friends coming from different points who who weren't ne they're coming in support of which is so generous and beautiful for me from other walks of life. Music being a kazin in Buffalo since I was 15. >> Are you still in Buffalo? >> I'm still in Buffalo. And so I have you know people who were >> So you have me beat how many years is it? >> 42. >> Wow. We were wondering I I just did 42 in Staten Island this past you beat. >> So you don't have me beat. I thought Wow. Because we were trying to figure out we did find somebody who was more than 42. Of course I don't remember who it is. I don't I don't want to promote that. >> Two years. Two years. My my my year in Israel I didn't do and there was a year I was a youth director somewhere I didn't do. So it's 42 not. >> So there you go. No, you have it. >> Well, thank you very much there Johnny. >> I'll be more happy. whether whether it's just from various parts beyond and I look at this list and it's it's really a incredible thing. >> So how many times I'm sorry for obsessing over this. How many because this was our whole big thing. My brother would always say to me when I was younger he would always say you're the only guy who has dam 30 times under the age of 50. When you were 50 how many times had you done it already? >> Well so now I'm 59. Oh, so you have me beat on that one. You did it over 30 times before 50, right? >> Yeah. >> See, we found we found another award for Jeff. >> I have not done it over 30 times. >> Where are you on rush? >> I am at the Young Israel of Scarsdale. >> Oh, come on. That's like Buffalo. Come on. >> 12 years. 12 years. >> Just like Buffalo Knuckle. What are you talking about? >> Totally. Or Jonathan Morgan. >> They love him. Oh, they love him in Scarsdale. They love him. He's their When I see people from Scar. Oh, Johnny. You know Johnny. That's our cousin. That's our cousin. Well, I would imagine so, frankly. >> Yeah, they love they wouldn't. >> But also, Rabbi Morgan's turned very popular. Very popular. >> Yes. When when I I'll tell you when the two of us get up there, you know, we I'm getting up there for Mosaf and him and his son Simon actually, they get up there with me and we do together and it's it's really amazing. >> Johnny comes back from this. I got to tell you, he makes me he comes back. I I got to sometimes have to just close his door. He comes back from Israel Scarsdale on such a high from Davin with with this community by Morgan Stern. He loves them and they love unbelievable. >> Listen, you know, you you you I don't have to tell you guys you get up there for the Yum N. You build relationships through your >> 100%. Um yeah, we could talk about this for the next hour also. Maybe you'll come back in and we'll have a little talk about it. When what what do you do? You go up there Arvonte or a couple days? I go up I go I go up I go up Aravant Rashashana. I generally I >> Where do you do Tashl? Ask Marie does >> Niagara. >> I do Niagara >> every year. >> How cool. >> What an effective way to get rid of S >> every year. And sometimes sometimes when I feel a little extra burdened I actually get on Maid of the Mist and go up close. I do. This is not a joke. That's hilarious. >> I send pictures. I go this this year I think I was I need some extra unloading. >> That's hilarious. Um, >> yeah. >> So, you go up there. >> I Yeah, I love it. >> And the weather that time of year is still reasonable. >> Ah, it could be. It could Sometimes it gets a little warm, >> but it never has snowed there. Young kid, >> that hasn't happened. >> Hasn't happened. It hasn't happened. Um, >> I went to I went to high school with a buffalo in Steve Wall. >> Ah, I just saw Steve recently. >> You know that he's Buffalo? >> Yeah. Steve and Andy. Yeah. Terrific people. I think they were cattle. their their dad was was a cattle farmer, >> rancher. Rancher at Incredible. >> And uh and Miss B, who used to teach at Manhattan Day School, the the other Buffalo Bills fan that I knew. Trying to think if I knew of anybody else. I think that was it. I think those were the two Buffalo Bills fans that I actually knew over the years. Oh, Dr. Laz. Dr. Laz is Mamish Buffalo. Yeah, right. >> He went he actually went to the Super Bowl to try to put a fill it on Marv Levy. >> Right. So, Dr. Laz's very very dear friends are coming to this the Stein Cheryl Stein are coming to uh are coming to this uh this Malava Mala >> all comes back to you see Dr. Laz every once in a while he's at their he's at their house. >> Just look up in the rafters. He's hanging from there. >> Do you know when I was starting this camp when I was starting this camp I came on JM in the AM. I came to I came to uh >> East Orange, New Jersey. >> East Orange, New Jersey. I had uh you know I've been there several times, you know, from a music standpoint. We had a you know relationship from camp and from music. And I told you I'm starting this camp and you invited me on and uh and I am I'm steeped in nostalgia in general, but here I am. We're sitting in in in your offices now here in T-neck. Far away. Yeah. Not that far away, but it's it's a far it's far away and disappears away. >> You know, I joked with you this morning. I I my car wanted to take me to uh Absala. You know, >> it automatically goes there. It wanted, you know, it wanted to. But I I think about that and I'm so I'm appreciative. I'm appreciative for so much. Um thinking about uh >> Well, you and I met 45 years ago. I don't know if you realize that we met 45 years ago. >> I >> that's when we met. >> Okay. >> Summer of 81. >> I will take your word for that. >> We had even though you were younger than me, we had mutual friends that uh and also you were an out oftowner. There's always that attraction, you know, the the nicer Oh, I better be careful. I I shouldn't say that. But you know, it was always there was the schmoozers were usually the ones who were from hundreds of miles away. You know, that type of thing. So, >> Montreal. >> Where are you from originally, Mr. Schlagman? >> Toronto. >> Oh, so you're fellow Canadians. >> There you go. >> Although I'm the only one that holds a passport. I don't think you have a Canadian passport anymore. >> I don't actually. I I actually never did. I was an American in you never had a Canadian passport. >> I was born I was born in New My parents were packing boxes. Uh I was born uh East 28th in Avenue P. So you're never really Canadian. >> How many years were you in Canada? >> I was Canada. We were we we moved right after I was born. Literally right after I was born. We moved to Detroit for a few years. My father was in we moved to Detroit and then uh I think two two years later, three years later, we moved to Montreal. I was in Montreal either by I think by 69 70. >> I lived there till 90. >> Well, that's why his French is better. He's from Montreal. >> There you go. >> But also he never had that. Now I understand why you never had that serious Canadian accent. You never had the >> not as serious but I said A is as I said A amongst the best. >> I still do. I still do. Only mostly when I'm talking to like fellow Canadians. >> Yeah. But to everyone I was a I was a Canadian. I was >> I was rooting for your team in the World Series. >> Everybody was >> right. The whole world was >> Let's not talk about that one. >> And you know you were this close and I'm I don't I can't even think about that as a baseball. >> I couldn't I can't even talk. If it happened to my team I would not have slept that night. And I know people think I'm nuts saying that. >> That was brutal. >> It was brutal. >> It was really funny. >> Short story. I was in Young Israel Scar that Shabas. It's part of my uh I go Yam Rim. I'm there for Shabbasim. And I'm talking to Rabbi Morgan during that night. He goes, "Oh my gosh, game six tonight. That's crazy, Johnny. You're going to miss them winning the World Series." I'm like, you know, there's a piece of me that kind of wants them to lose tonight so they can I can see >> seven, right? >> And then they and not only did they lose, they lost in heartbreaking fashion. >> They could have won it five different times. It was >> story of a Toronto fan's uh sporting uh life. >> Well, there you go, folks. We went from the high of Cath to the low of leaving it on the field. >> We can we can get even lower. Let's start talking about the Leafs. >> I was going to say something, but I fig I can't pile on. It's not right. >> It's okay. I'm used to it. Anyway, you were there with me at the beginning, Nah, and I so appreciate you uh you know, being here talking about this and and waxing nostalgic a little bit. Uh >> and uh a >> lot of water under the bridge, Mr. B. >> A lot a lot. >> A lot of Niagara water under the bridge. >> No, a lot of good stuff. A lot of good stuff. >> Took on the Canadian side or the American side. >> So, it's always been the American side >> because they do say the Canadian side is better, right? Don't they >> Come on. >> It is, right? year. This year I went over to the Canadian side for the first time. I walked over I walked over bridge >> and I I I generally I take a picture and I send it to my co you know I send it to my colleagues saying tsh >> one sends a note back saying hey that that uh the scene the scene's different looks like you're on the Canadian side that's amazing that's amazing sends sends not saying that's >> there's no way you're seeing the Canadian side of the falls at that angle from from the United States >> there's no way you're seeing that he was 100% right it was uh >> you ever stop at Hamilton or never. Never. >> No. Well, >> because Buffalo to Toronto is Hamilton's in the middle, right? >> Yeah, but I don't go I'm not driving to Toronto. I drive from here to Buffalo and Niagara's 25minut drive. I don't I don't get as far as Hamilton. Although Yakov Morell, a Neshair alum, I believe, is correct, still the uh principal there. >> He is he is >> in the day school in Hamilton. >> Yakov Morell. >> Rabbi Yakov. >> How many years? >> I'm not sure. Not sure. >> I mean 5 years or 25 years. >> No, it has to be over 10 years already. Oh wow. Has to be over 10 years. >> We have principles of schools. We have a few head of museums. We have executive directors. We have all kinds of people who >> Wedding singers. >> Wedding singers. Who's a wedding singer? >> We have We have all kinds. >> Besides from yourself, are there any other wedding singers that went to that show that I should know about >> or are you the lone one? Whoa. You and Jeff? >> I think I'm the only one. >> Throwing me in. >> Why not? >> I think I'm the only one. >> You're the only one. >> Me and you, right? I I don't think I >> Does young Hen sing or not? >> Sammy? Yeah. I think he's part of the Y studs. >> Oh, really? >> I think he's part of the Y studs now. >> Yeah, we have uh we have Silverman's part. Uh what's it? Seth was also part of one of those. >> Seth and our chef. Chef Dave, formerly of >> Yeah, David. >> Dave. >> Wow. All I know about Jewish music and there's so much more I need to learn. Some other member of the old stopped me the other day. Was it him? I don't remember. It was at a wedding. You know what the problem is? When you reach my age, you have a million encounters because we've met tens of thousands of people and you remember nothing. I can't remember anything less and less. >> It's terrible. Like where did this happen that this guy from the brought it to my attention? He was in the and in my studio like you said, you know, by coming to East Orange, he came to the Jersey City studio and of course I can't remember any of it. >> It's unbelievable. I just don't remember anything anymore. You know what the craziest thing is? I'm sure Stacy will cor will corroborate the you know the >> I'm telling you anybody in my life would I used to have this thing on chabas I'm sure you guys go everyone must go through the same thing especially people with you know are always thinking you know creative people always have ideas so on chabas I would I would commit to memory a list of things that I have to remember after shabas you know and four or five things I thought of over shabas I must so it used to be I'd be able to sit down after shabas and write the list NOW I DON'T REMEMBER ONE ITEM ON THE LIST >> you can't you can't take out a banana anagrams game and make a couple of like little >> I didn't think of that. >> MS MSG moes Shabas Google. >> Yeah, but if you don't know what you're googling, you got to remember you got to figure out how to remember it. >> See, Schlag, I'm still young. He thinks that that's an answer. >> Yeah. Yeah, I know. >> All right, folks. Camp Ner, we did our Monday morning tribute to their 30th anniversary celebration. Come say hi to Jeff Braverman and Johnny Schlagbound. Jeff's got it easy. He's going into the He's riding off into the sunset. It's Johnny who now has all those responsibilities up in camp. >> Here we go. >> He's the one that I'm gonna send Josh Khovski in to spy on him. >> Little pizza for everyone. >> I don't need word about Jeff. I know he's sitting and relaxing in a hammock somewhere. It's Johnny that we're going to be looking at and paying attention. >> That's it. That's it. Sitting back. Sitting back. But uh >> so I couldn't even ask Johnny to join me in downtown Lake Como for a slice of pizza. He's got to be on campus. >> I'll be there. Don't worry about >> what? Yeah. You would take what is it? Four miles. How many miles is it? Four, five miles. >> Two and a half miles. >> That's it. Just two and a half. He would take the two and a half mile trek to come and have lunch with me. >> I'll be there. Heartbeat. >> I'll be there. I'll be there. >> The staff the staff and the team that Johnny has a a mass. The team that he has, they wouldn't even know he was gone. Remember the days, Jeff, when we had two division heads? Now, what are there about 15 for a camper? >> There's a lot a lot of division heads. >> And then there's an assistant. >> There's a lot more of everything. >> A lot more of everything. >> The days that I drove the bus, I was the music guy. I was everything. All Allin one. As a matter of fact, there's a few people coming to this event. the first the opening year of Neshair, I drove I went to we we had a bus stop uh we had a bus stop at uh we had a bus stop in West Orange and then we had a bus stop in Queens and I drove a little one of those little school bus cheese boxes cuz we we had an overflow and we didn't have anyone to drive it. I got I took that little cheese box school bus I went and picked up. So you got some of these kids who were on that bus singing songs. I love it. >> From young Israel of Hillrest. >> Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yes. This is what happens. >> Yeah. >> I remember the days where there were like two nurses in the infir, right? And one doctor who occasionally shut up the camp, right? I There was >> You can ask Haggler. There was an episode with me where they had to take me to bri because we >> to see a doctor >> because the doctor in camp it was like you know it was like one of those transitions you know left Monday we'll have a new one Thursday that type of thing today you can't get away with that >> not a chance not a chance >> no no now they have they actually have you can you can um you can fill that in with a teaalth doctor now >> what do you mean >> there's a tea health there's a there's there's a and you get assigned to the camp. You can have >> So, you don't even need a live person. >> Technically speaking, you don't have to do it. >> Yeah. No, >> no, but you there there are camps that do it. >> But but if you were really stuck, you could do that. You could fill in with that if need be virtually. And uh and the the nurse, you know, he he tells the nurse what to do, gives the takes the vitals, whatever, gives the orders, whatever it is, checks. >> And in my case, I had to get a driver to take me to my room. >> Look at that. Imagine >> the four drivers in camp. How many drivers in that hour? 12. >> No, that's still that's still a challenge. >> Still a challenge. >> Hey Jess, >> you want to drive this summer? >> I'm ready. >> He may end up doing it. You never know. You'll pull him off that habic and say, "Hey guy, we need some help." >> John Johnny knows I'm I'm just a phone call away. I'm a phone call away. >> Well, you'll be relaxing. >> I hope looking at pictures. >> You'll be taking it all in. Notmagine that we we post pictures every night of campers every night. We post these videos. Imagine this. >> Details on why it's terrible, folks. Coming up in another conversation. But but it's awful. But anyway, >> I mean, the fact that you open up yourself that you open yourself up to a mom who's going to call camp saying, "My kid looked unhappy in a picture." Who on earth would ever do that? Who doesn't open themselves up to you have no choice? >> That's right. >> Anyway. >> Anyway, >> but I digress. >> No, I don't. >> What topic didn't we cover this morning? I need to know. There's got to be something we haven't gotten to. Anyway, Camp Neser's 30th anniversary celebration. Pay honor to Jeff Braverman. Say hi to Johnny Schlagbam. You'll he will have camp applications for this Saturday night. If you want to be a staff member, >> yes, >> if you want to be a staff member, if you want to be a camper, if you want to be a staff member, join the waiting list. If you want to be a uh join the waiting list if you'd like to be, >> but if you want a good job, if you want a really nice fun job with two and two and a half miles away from some fancy kosher eeries. >> Yes. Yes. >> Josh better know that I plugged him like crazy today. >> I'm going to let him know. Let him know. and you make sure to bring your pen or whatever they use now to apply to to Camp Nesher's 30th anniversary celebration. And for it's happening at Keter to Torah on Romer Avenue in Tene this coming Saturday night at 8:00. And here is the address to get your reservation in. It's campner.org/nesher30. campneshair.org neeshair30. Thank you gentlemen. >> Thank you Johnny Schlagbam Jeff Braverman. And what what tune what hit of yours have we played multiple times in the last two years? We've played it for the last god knows how many years, but especially in the last two years here at J&M. Now, I know that you listen to J&M every single day, so you probably know the answer. I don't want to put you on the spot. >> I would expect I would expect that it's >> Would you expect that? >> Here you go. >> Thank you, gentlemen. And Mazaltov, enjoy Saturday night. >> Thanks for having us. >> A pleasure. More coming up. It's show Jeff and Jonathan and this is JM is we go along Mari. Israel receives me thought It's me again. Oh, you're go alone. Oh my Israel. Heat. Heat. Ro forever. Sh. to Israel. We know I love my Jesus. Lord within Heat. Heat. Heat. You shall not Appreciate you.