Buying/hiring Jewish–a Halachic Perspective - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

a [Music] like to welcome everyone to [Music] today buying hiring Jewish perspective 718 851 8651 email.com Smith I could probably say that today sh I'm preparing for 20 years even though I'm not that slow hopefully but the truth is around probably 20 years ago I decided I wanted to give a share about this suia on a daily basis when you go shopping you buy something you rent something you hire a worker you have to use a Jewish work we'll call that by Jewish and hire Jewish and something get at in a business very much buying or selling to eeden versus so I decided I'm going to give a share about it look but there is no about it in fact there's noi r r so that makes it challenging and and not e to give a there's but really the the main problem I get the main challenge is that in this sug it's a very emotional sug because people could argue both sides very very emotionally and I'll explain you you know every is always someone that complains he's always fetching one day he's cring the storekeepers before PES the price is so high in a g store you get them for much less it's you know it's not fair to buy by Eden okay that's what he believes and he says it with passion a week later the same person is complaining what's his problem he's a plumber and people hire plers how can they I hire me I'm man are you charge more than the G Plum ter it is a person sees what and the truth is both sides are very convincing How could a person not hire how could you not buy in a Jewish store give a give a fellow P but then again as we know that the prices sometimes in aous store in a big store are cheaper you have these big supermarkets that they the prices are some unbelievable so both sides are very convincing it's every single day and but there's no so I started collecting slowly but surely until I think we have enough to go through the Su basically buying or selling D or renting or hiring and really the Crux of the issue is it's very nice to do but at what cost let's say a person estimates that he pays 20% more on a grocery bill or a grocery shopping in the local store versus a big store now the if you think about it many there's no to give your own money you find you have to take off from work to return the father pays for it the same that said said so obviously there is definitely allowance for a person to think of himself and think about his budget what is the m that's hard to say because as we said there's no but let's learn a together if you will sell something to your fellow fellow or you want to buy something don't cheat in all to cheat and that's the of cheating in financial dealings overpricing overcharging but the on this notice is the redundancy it says a lot so how do you know when you want to you want to sell something you must sell it to a ye who you sell to he continues when you want to buy something you have to go to the who do you buy from and the Mal on this explains where did the T get this from it's the extra I have to realize I want to make one point today most of the share is talking about buying buying an store store it's much cheaper but in those days it was also a who to sell it to let's say you have two buyers let's say you're a distributor you have food the guy said I'll give you a little more than than your than the competitor who do you sell it to he goes two ways most of us it's Thea Where do I I buy what do I shop but for businessman it's the gay who do you sell it to the guy offers you more but the yish wholesaler needs them needs the food sell it to him so we have a that's to sell to we call buy Jewish what's the but again there's no is that enough to say if it's not in the B then it's Nota so I'm tell you in a totally different context not but the talking about he says if you find something it might have Mur in a but if it's not in it's not so the question is does that mean that this is not it's a but it's not a so what then is it so on this says like the like the buy Jewish and sell Jewish the of his piece he explains the of the but he adds in a line of buying by a Jewish store so you have two that do say this is maybe we'll say sort of a compromise there's no to buy a Jewish store but you know how's he going to make more so maybe it's if it's not a don't forget you deal with you trust him you know his word is a word he lives you don't know you know I've heard so many horror stories people hire guys to workers they do a nice job on the outside but the job was not done and the guy takes his money and then takes off so maybe it's an deal with the guy your your problems you have problems if you do a good job and I would say more than that you have a guy worker in your house the guy brings his g into the house you don't need the the way he talks and the way he way he deals have a work and it's noteworthy the inah deal with so that would mean it's not but it's okay it's still something worth doing but at least it's not a but the question is is this enough the fact that it's not that it's not maybe so I'm going to tell you is one of Theater now he's talking about a again where a was tempted to sell to go not to another so he writes that in his City they made it in Tunis they made it t that whenever a y sells something he has to sell it to a yid and the the buyer has to give an extra extra amount of money to secure the sale in other words they wanted he wanted they wanted to encourage a sells to a see then the challenge was selling to a yid so they made a Tak you want to buy something from yid you got to give extra money so the T reacts he shocked he says I don't believe it you have to charge extra pay extra that's a nice moment you're making every customer pay extra are you want to give an incentive to the to the seller to sell only to yeen why do you need a penalty it's a p in the and he quotes this and he quotes and he quotes Rashi that you have to sell and buy only to a so why do you have to make a which turns out being a so so is assuming it's a regular to sell or buy to a but he's not finished he says I'm going to tell you there's a there is a there is what is that if you want to lend money to a so let's say aid needs money and you're about to loan the money why not sub a guy over here you have extra money he says I would like to borrow the money and I'll give you good interest now you have a Terri terrible you give it to you're losing all that interest you could make so much money in of give it to the and give up the the interest that you could made that means you have to give up money to help another eat that's the in but he's not finished has a second and this is even a bigger which means in other words he lives in a little stle and he has a dead cow caucus he can't eat it it's TR so e could sell it to or give it to a don't forget not a full he's allowed to eat he keeps says give it to the and don't sell it to the wow you have to give up a caucus it's worth a lot of money to help another ye isn't this another source that buy and sell Jewish so now we realize it's not it's no longer there's no there's two garas and we also have obviously we don't focus on if you have a Mitzvah do it so he says you have to give away to you have to sell or buy even though you're losing a little bit in that the fact that you're honoring a ye but he's not the only God that says this there's a celebrated Chua I'll use that word properly because it's the in Sim in the Chas and it hasas that are quoted in many different contexts but here's the story in the times of of the r the the Great spent a lot of time and effort revising all the mistakes that fell into the printing of the rambam and after he finished his Monumental job he was selling it there was a g printer that was upset that the rad took his competitor a printer and didn't take him as a printer he decided to not get mad get even like the go say and he printed the rambs and he gave it at a fraction of the cost that was basically going to Puta into bankruptcy cu no one's going to buy R's Ram which was fairly priced if you get it by the guy for half price so the RAR was asked what to do and mo made a famous chuva if you know you know the history Mo was 20 years old at the time R ker 20y old chuva 20 yearold person wrote this fascinating chuva and he has one big about the which is different here but he calls it is that here no one has a right to buy by prin how could you buy then he says it's not my this is a which now the ra probably never saw the see many they didn't see but to the of of the the that from is you have to give a even though if it costs money then he says to be honest it's not really a himself writes this because you're not losing money by lending to a yid what's that called you could have made extra money okay but you're not not losing see when you have to go to a local grocery and spend 20% more on a on a shopping spree so you're losing money you're paying more for something that you don't have to pay that much but not getting interest is only many and the truth is he he says we find like that you're allow to do but you can't go to work and say why not I make a lot of money per day cuz making money is so he says so that's not a r but I have a second which is the second now I should mention that he says therefore and he says and he writes anybody who buys from the r printed by the why now we have to add first of all the the he brings the and he says that that there's no R from The Case of the because the case of the there of Landing to a so that's why lend for you even though you're losing money but shopping maybe taka you could think about yourself but then he says something it's really unbelievable it's hard to understand why the brought this RI do you ever wonder what's I have a dead animal I could sell to and make back most of my loss I can't sell for Kos meat but tray meat is worth a lot I have to take my animal give it to a GE to not even a for I can't sell my own item what's so this a person has he can't sell it he has to give it to the it's talking about someone and the way I understand it is that he can't sell it to a guy he's living a little derful now have a big cow didn't have trucks and the cranes how do you get a cow to to the big city so he he really can it's not worth that much to him if he gives it to the the could eat it but is they didn't live in Big City live in small so if he can't make money anyhow it's just making a little bit money or giving it to that to do is we'll soon see how that's a key word key words you have to give up to help another and that's why the it's a they forgot it's hard to believe that but but he does write respectfully who and then we can't like lived about 150 years ago he says of spending extra to help another e now it's hard to believe that but I think if you look in the the brings from and he himself slugs up the so why you bring the ter is both R are not R Brewers you could you could say that's and is the is trying to say how you're supposed to look at a situation here look at the toy looks and helping look at helping now you might find that right but in the attitude you have to think grab an opportunity so therefore the two R are not R but there's one more and that sends us in a different direction and that's the this gar is talking again about selling whom to sell it to a go or a ye which is used not the typical but let's say I have a house in a neighborhood I want to sell it to a GU because a GU is offering more so that's again you can't sell it to a guy neighborhood if he's going to ruin the neighborhood but let's say you're certain it won't ruin the neighborhood and the guy's offering more as long as you're if you're certain that he won't ruin the neighbor you could sell the house to the the is if the wants to give you the same amount like the go sell to the but the go is offering more you allow to sell the house to [Music] a now this the they all right it's it's hard to understand how could say this says that there's no if the guy is giving you more you allow to sell it to a so they all use very respectful sh but this is a r that when there's a difference in price you don't have to sell Jewish difference in price you have to buy Jewish and again it's hard to believe that didn't see the well soon see what it seem the is when there's a big difference then maybe there's no big difference then there's no but whatever the case is I want to be clear from this that seems to be past this hole that there's no selling it to a there are there's no there's no besides the fact that there's no other that says it's not this is pretty clear there's no it's all true but there's no but for us when we learned the properly to say there's no and nothing to talk about is wrong because the we mentioned on our we'll soon see in discusses this all when he's writing about the of buying a he writes in don't forget vendors don't forget when you have to buy inventory buy by the Y wholesal not by the wholesal because there a mitzvah of assume there is there's a one of the in theel in Sim is a long but he proves conclusively I qu that when the said it's there to sell to it's not because say he learns like seem to learn it's it's not in sh it's there reference it's not that's a good question I don't know teror for that but the fact that the and the can bring it we can't say it's that's wrong because many hold but definitely could say that there's enough in the that there is a because was asked Point Blank by someone what is so he discussed it and he says that's important storekeeper can take advantage but he does say although he does quot in the same chuva he does he quotes which is that he says a good but the end he says you should buy Jewish now let's apply it more specifically and I hope we have a clerk I don't what to do so let's start with the simple sh if you have two stores that are basically the same price one a once a go so everybody agrees you should buy some say it's some say it's or it's but all agree like the quot in a different context if there's no big difference How could a person have a suff how could you not help your own brothers so even if it's not a do it if it is a now you have to realize something else go don't shop but have a tendency to and here we have a new TI in the if we're not going to buy by hour who will bris is quoted as saying a R's most important job is to make sure every single y has AOS this is quoted and that's why on his M he wrote he wrote about and then only bris is devot to Yan was the of his R now we're not R but at least we should think about it Yan should be very important in our eyes buy a yish store buying yisha Brands helps the manufacturer plus I should mention in a different context he says buying a work or brand is a better conscious you know where it's coming from now what's more challenging when the has a much cheaper price now I want to explain a little bit why it's challenging you see let's talk about a big store shoppr to Walmart now they have prices that are much lower than the local stores why not because the local stores are are trying to cheat US you have to realize they buy either they buy in bulk or they manufacture it but they they Mish have it at at so much less of of a cost than the local grocery local grocery calls up the theand manufactur I want 20 ketchup 20,000 no 20 hang on the phone call a big distributor I need 20 ketchups you know have a nice day I have no time for you so he has to buy by by a distributor from a distributor so before he touches the item three people making so what do you expect now you want them to be there because you need a local store shabas to run out and buy something but you can't he can't survive on a shabas last minute bottle of milk it's impossible for him to compete with the big stores so this is why step number one to understand the problems is a beautiful and makes a point of explaining why a chain store could could could charge much lower prices if we understand the problem we're more sympathetic when we hear the answer but this is very important that laa for a person that's shopping at 20% more on on on on grocery bills is so this we have to realize that there OD days that hold is no but even those that hold is it seems is only when there's a difference then where I get the word from and points this out I get to that but that's first you have to realize that that in got be lending money to a without ribb he also he says why we see people that have businesses and they mortgages and and they they they lend to Yen with ribbers and they don't lend to and and when they have a situation where they can lend to without ribbers they don't do it they lend to a guy with ribbers he says because if it's a question of more than there's no says more than that there's no now I must mention it's a little seems told even more than you have to give to talks about that the that they that the the charged than the local the price so it's that seems clar that a lot of par can say this seem to have held even if it's a big difference in price to buy by the says if there's a difference in a small difference in price buy it by the by the and that's [Music] the do say that says that even by a big amount but no doubt about it let's be clear when there's a small difference even if the little because we have how def so I told you is less than is 16 approximately 16.6 67% 7% in other words close little less than 177% of the difference that you should spend to buy by where he get the number so we know more than less than that we assume is a small amount which could be now of course you're not overcharge even less than but that's considered now you can't give fixed amount 16% cuz someone that's that's strugging to make ends meat so 16% of a grossy bill adds up so he says it's totally on the person it's objective how much money he has a wealthy person could afford 20% more someone that that that can can't afford Basics 16% is a lot but a person has to have a understandably so and be considerate if you could do it do it if you can't then and don't forget we always have to fall back on those sheas that hold that there is no now one thing is important to mention and that is this this this we talking about now buying it's who are been selling but in both cases the would be you should deal with the now the writes this again both ways buying or selling but here we just make an appeal storekeepers have to realize that we want to buy by them but if they raise the price for some reason because they build they have Monopoly oh you didn't have to buy by me that all the P say then you don't have to buy once they starting to play games that's wrong but then again they has to be understanding that there's certain percentage that they can't do better someone told me when he moved to mon he was then it was not this is in the late 60s it wasn't like it is today and he was so happy he heard that open the pharmacy so he told all the e to buy by him but he told the far the pharmacist but if you start charging too much it's going to stop you have to keep a control you have to be fair there has to be a certain allowance for a higher price but there has to be again a fair a fairness in the price now let's say the price is the same but the quality of the gisha product or the G store is a better quality so that if it's Tak you know different quality some people have a certain bu say y product is never good you know all is just sugar and water which is ridiculous but let's say you will really a difference product and the product so then it seems that you by the in regarding the same thing if the GHA situation is better for you then that's like a higher a better price and you're allow to T buy by the go we soon see an interesting TL when they had the the problem of buying from in Greece so the he discussed this and he says but that come from from Greece are better quality then you allow to buy by them than buy their by because he says two there's a different quality like two different items if you need apples and the has no apples only oranges to buy oranges right you need apples so he says different quality like two different that he says that but you have to realize it has to be done with with be reasonable some people it's always better by I don't know where they got that from it has to be understandable and true if the G store has a better return policy again also that could be understood maybe that's not enough of a difference you got to buy by that store but the have heart and you know understand that let's make things work you know it has to be a mutual agreement the seller and the buyer have to work together to make things work because again if we're not there for him then he won't be there for us he can't survive if we just buy you know items just in in in a last moment items the next question is let's say it's the same price basic basically but it's a big to go to the the store is close by store you have to drive a few minutes or there's no parking whatever it is the Y store is not as convenient as theore the store is much less than buying by the store and that could be in many scenarios but we're talking about a situation when that's the given so you have to realize one thing is not a is a inah says the ra says the only time we find is a is that's to do and that's why the he discusses this and he says how bad if it's just he says what do you mean it's of course it's worthwhile to make the extra a CL help he says when someone helps another even if he does a mistake or and and found the took there's a that said that and then he writes with with a passion how could you not want to to help another so obviously just magnifies the greatness of the mitah in itself is not a now a very big that might be different in a different context but so sometimes we could equate and but in normal situation if it's just a little we do it is there a prob is there a test how do I know I'll tell you I think this is pretty accurate some people the nature is when they hear a sale even if the store is quiet a distance they they can't miss a sale they go they for their own needs if you for your own needs do it for if for you yourself even for yourself you don't go too far you're busy learning you don't want to get involved with with sales here and sales there your time is precious you don't spend time unnecessarily you budget your time you rather learn than save an extra $20 on and going to the cheapest store you'll buy locally no such a person for him it's his time is is precious so basically we do see that we spend a lot of to buy a beautiful EST but this is a real many a real the person should I guess now he says what's the she he says a mill in other words just like byav or you have to you have to travel a mill around 18 minutes so he says that's the fear gauge of what's considered up to that amount is that is okay yes what's but in the same CH he writes I heard from that was always only by by by Jewish Jewish Merchant he says when he needed something even from the drugstore he refused to get any allow anybody to buy by anybody except for the yish drug store or any other store so in the same cha he sends you the message that went through great to make sure to only buy by so this is important to mention and sometimes you know a g store has a sale on one item so buy there that item but the rest of the items you can still buy by if it's the fact that you have to go to another store might not be now the truth is that the MIT is not only buying or selling if you have to hire a worker and you have so what's the it's also part of maybe in fact when you have to hire worker there the more of a profit to the ye when he has a job than when he makes a sale but although the talks about buying and selling but it's it's any time that you could give but we could do better let me tell you someone says but there's so much to it that you don't realize it until until it hits you in the beginning of M just L this not long ago he he seems to find the that you have to hire worker in the PK what's the P you want to buy an good if take why why why who is a better deal forever 6 years is maximum why she is now this right I'm sure you all saw but I saw the he says he says it's un he quotes there not of course but Hees both say the same TI the how do you know that when you have to when you need to buy something or sell something or any type of hiring so as he puts it was to two that regarding buying an also now I do know buying an e is not exactly hiring a worker but it's close enough is not really not buying him I mean you are buying him but it's close enough buta one thing bothered mea it sounds a strange you buy a go it's forever you buy a year only six years but the truth is it's not because when you buy of course the price not going to be the same they're not giving a choice buy one choose one it's different prices buta it's much more convenient to have so definitely we see regarding a worker we can't say right to a worker but got be the the another illus illusion that there is an inion of hiring or buying Jewish now the in he says the of posit when you have to rent something you have to rent the car so why should you go to rental you buy by rental regarding a rental the applies and in the it's on the bottom writes with great pain he says this doesn't need a r that you have to rent by by but people don't do that so I have to bring a r and he says that rental is like so it's included in but it bothered him that why don't y rent or buy by when he hired a worker he was spent up to 50% more to hire a now that's me but again for us at least to see a sensitivity an Outlook how to look at these type of Shas but if definitely plus again other milus having a guy working you know he's not following you can't trust him and sometimes he brings in his n etc etc into the house there's always a besides the of giving work you trust him now even though I know that that workers have work is working for them but they're much more refined and they're disciplined they know how to act homes so you don't have that risk I remember a long time ago I can't remember exactly how long ago but a long time ago made a plea this is when there was an influx of Russ and Y that came after the collapse of the Iron Curtain and he says that people need cleaning help H Russian yish women you know we have a very a feeling I can't have a you work in my house cleaning my oven very nice but they have nothing else they have no other jobs so better take a and give a even though you don't feel it's right it is right because they have no other choice they don't speak the language that's what he said then it's interesting the rambam says that also in matness and you need household help take unfortunately there that don't have any parents take them to work in your house even though in other words think a little deeper you don't want to work with a yish woman okay so you take a girl into the house does that make sense plus you have a yish worker working you don't have to worry about leaving the house unattended and with and with kis and with Bish and and all these problems when you have in the house so if there's a that would that would do the cleaning work that's the right thing to do that's part of our mitvah there are some certain MIT certain um jobs that there's other reasons to give D to I should mention it briefly and Sim the r says that the is not to give a Talis to a clean is to wash the clean to wash the towels it's okay there but now we know also says based on not to get a haircut from okay again it's very but and the third one is if you need a a a closed gate to for the we spoke a few weeks ago if you have work at least you could have a and it could be a sort of to you no so by these three MIT particularly there's more of an to hire a work we had a person there was a leak in my pipe and I had to call a plum so I was wondering what who should I call so for also I wanted to help but not so this because if the has so for him it's not a so he can work for me but he can't take money I didn't want to tell I wanted to not tell him that till after he worked but that was sneaky so if he doesn't need it for his him this and says this that if the needs it he could take money but if not it's better to take a work and therefore there's no violation I'll tell you a fascinating TL goes back tough tough race long time ago they they they started importing esim from car that's in Greece it's close to Italy you know Yan smle but this is a that grew in CaRu and there was a Biga to take a from there I'm not sure exactly what the was but it seemed this was the fact that they were nicer than the and number two there wasn't the of both were not and and the the Y but it seemed to be so there was someone that wrote pre from the from that time that discussed What attracted us is pre but then again buying so listen to this the brother of one of the times he he says it's by even though it's not why say makes he says is bigger than for the Mitzvah of of the Mitzvah how much do you have to spend maximum a third how much do you have to spend for he quotes the there's no limit cuz he hold the is that's even a big amount so is a bigger Mitzvah even if it's so that's what he wants to say so when you have these two Mitzvah coincide is the priority and that's why he pasin now the IM and then they all written to the same person the same incidentally he has a different take and he says if it's so much nicer so then the EST from car is a different than the es so it's like apples and oranges and that's why he could be he wants to be okay I saw interesting I must mention this he was little than them but he says they that that cried about buying from CaRu who knows how much blood yish blood was spilled in in Greece and he says you know people are so mtic on having an estc and the way I quote his La that there shouldn't be any block Fleck but you should also be M do there shouldn't be any BL Fleck any blood stains on the estri of CaRu there's blood stains so that's how it was very colorful but one thing I think we should realize I once told the story s went into a store and he looked for lul and he didn't buy anything nothing was nice he walked out then he made a b face went back to the store and bought an es and walked out so zle says what changed nothing changed why'd you do that goes you nothing changed nothing nothing appealed to me but I said what am I doing I'm walking out of the store they can say kki pass all the love in the store do I need that so I bought the lul but I'm not going to use you know not necessarily because it's so nice now did he use it or not I don't know doesn't say anything in the story but if he did use it it was a hi in here we have a hi in icon I often wonder another question after P many people have a minut they don't buy from until because and they don't like to be so toell a doesn't have to sell the so right they buy by the go and no problem of by the way by the next week even the could have things comes from distributor so you have to be you do you have to do it right this is has I could say they both first not to sell anys nothing and after PES they didn't buy by until they knew it was that that was made after P so someone has that meaning based on these it's but to me is a little concerning that people that do sell and they do do sell schaps when it comes to this H they buy by a from P to now the grocery he doesn't have a mega PES store so he already he's bleeding a few weeks from and now for seven more weeks he has nothing nothing to sell so you have to reevaluate if that's really a maybe maybe should if you you yourself sell the when it comes to the like why not I'll tell you why not is a big so I'm not questioning that had this but if someone is thinking why not it has to be reevaluated maybe giving a is a big and the last group of questions is when is there tour of ion so one thing seems clear now this is a very very painful very big sug what is the status of a irreligious now is let's not forget is a and nothing to talk about but in some a that's not religious doesn't have the status of a and this is one of them I mentioned earlier I mentioned earlier I mentioned earlier all say for the that person is not so if the question is or you go to the there's a historical Tru if you like that word he was down the r b Park he says there's a new open up in B park that's a chain store that's owned by irreligious Eden no no wall bounds wall bounds was in the Cent bark then this before my time but I when I came to Bar it was already there and he discussed this you could buy by them they're officially eaten but they're they're not that religious so a or goes first it pains me to say this even that says that in that it's even more painful but it's if a person has a choice he's in business and is a big choice to make to buy to buy or sell by a go or a FR and what's the what's the priority so there's no difference but there's no difference in this context so basically this is the point that when you're talking about this clearly is very literal has an interesting sorry the has an interesting Kish and he says that when two Merchants are buying one from the other let's say you have a distributor another distributor to there's no D ofon because for both of them it's you have to realize so once it's not just a question of of buying you know for your personal needs once it's a question of of of P we soon see it's like Thea of being a mortgage broker why don't you give to the without without interest but there a special another important point to mention thata the concept of we don't seem to see today being so much it'sing It's Not So based on one and the quot this all is very clear that people today that loan money as a and mortgage brokers Etc once it's your P so then there's no of of goes first and that's why CL we don't see people lending money to Iden even and but in said they take it and they invest it but again based on that that that's that's that's that I mentioned also says this you have to give but if that's your then there's no what we see has another very important implication and that Isa what we see today and it's unfortunately pretty common where people people storekeepers cannot compete they can't keep up with the big stores and they're failing and then I'm making either or Jeopardy so now to aah the mitvah is questionable or not but one thing all agree which is the the first level of says this says it's based on what's the biggest form that doesn't nothing is second place he helps someone that's failing he helps him or he gives him a job you know if you could help someone that's not making it that's not just a that's not just that's the highest form of to prevent a ye from bankrupting is the greatest Mitzvah but even if he's not bankrupting if he's not doing well so he's not happy and Sh is not the way it should be because he doesn't have enough money and it's tied in the house so then there's a different is limited to we have to give our own so here very often when you see a steper that's failing shop by him and we soon see you can use my money because if you're not to do it and it's a form of to use my money but at least to identify a wonderful opportunity but all good investors this is a wonderful investment in he says even though even if someone's is to lend to a GU he's allowed to do that unless he sees someone that's failing that needs but more I guess more convincing cries at his heart he says people that don't have a job they they're jobless they're unemployed you know what it does to them if we could find if we give them a job you could put them back on their feet is when they need a worker they take a go why don't you give a the job he needs it this is M besides the mitvah of and in this case when he needs it so this is why you have to use a little more to see a little deeper sometimes there a worker some sometimes a storekeeper St that person St IFA we could help him put him on his feet then there's a different now the difference is POS some say is whatever is needed but here's this is what makes it more practical I found at least a half a dozen P all say this that says this as well that let's say you know that there's a storekeeper that's not doing well it's not he's not he's M you know it's looks like he's not going to make it too much longer but you make a that you could save 30% by going to the store so there's no doubt about you to go but go to the St and make the calculation whatever you're spending more than in the store 30% that amount is s not s it's the purest highest form of s now you can't deduct the entire grocery bill of M that's ridiculous because you have to pay but whatever you think the difference is don't worry that's on that's what mice is all about so whether it's hiring or worker that's more expensive hiring a driver that's more expensive whatever it is there's so many situations but we have to not lose out the opportunity basically I just want to close with one more thought that you know we we like we are you are certainly we have we like to live a way a person could live not only his learning and ding ises butes the way to do that is when a person focus on hiring buying selling whatever it is in any scenario if it's not a but help someone it's to you shame you like you be today's sh have sponsoring call sheti 718 851 8651 email ist spe okay okay SE today sh for only to see them okay just to let your review we learned today was a little tck but um basically we see the source of this mitvah is the if there is such a Mitzvah the is it's unusual it's not it's not in it's not in the early it's not but there are references in the that's what we said it's not definitely not but many hold that the fact that it is in the and there reference would give it the status of a Mitzvah maybe even like those those that hold there's no such it's just because it's not in or but all agreed at least it's but if there's no big difference if it's just a or less then a say and all go to when there more than a d d means at least a six or if it's a person can't afford it especially the storekeeper is doing very well and this person is struggling so then he could say when the storkeeper raised the price just because he thinks he cornered the market that's wrong it should not be done but basically better quality or better service can be included in the heta of like a higher price is a not a unless it's a big a person that's learning doesn't have to close if he has to go to local store save the time and he wouldn't do it for a sale then that's a here as well even though maybe was but hiring a worker or renting something Rental Car Rental etc etc is also part of the it's part of the of the Mitzvah a cleaning aalis or getting a haircut and M there's additional reason to take da work when the worker worker doesn't need the money then take a is not because has no work for you if there's no if of course unless there's no other worker they get could do it for you from Greece we see an Insight that even a is a in in the a approach that's more than you need a those that don't buy p if Tak it's their okay if it's just why not then you have to think maybe the losing from your an irreligious Jews is never even though he's but not in this context even two two Distributors there's no loans today is help someone who's failing even if it's not but you could use on the difference and that's the way you live oh here hope