Building A Mishkan To Hashem(HaRav Yitzchak Breitowitz)

okay so uh this week the Torah now makes a new turn I think we've mentioned before that the book of shamos has three pivotal events uh that move in a positive direction so I'm moving the negative Direction but the three pivotal events are of course you'd see us with Triumph The Exodus from Egypt and then we have the giving of the Torah and then we have the building of the Mishka the building of the mishkan the Tabernacle takes up quite a lot of place in the tower you know five partios basically a whole bunch of stories a whole bunch of detail and the like and I think I had mentioned that these three pivotal events actually refer to the journey of the human soul in life that we have to leave the mitzrayams right mitriums are not just Egypts but mitrium also means constriction limitation boundaries blockages all of us have many many materials the mitrium could be egotism could be selfishness could be gaiva arrogance it could be the opposite it could be a lack of self-esteem these are army triumphs and if you want to serve God you got to find a way to get rid of those blockages or at least improve the situation to some degree but that's kind of the negative idea get rid of that negativity we all have to work on those things but it's not enough to be negative free you got to give your life positive content too you can't just say I get rid of my negatives that leave you with a zero so mark cantoria is what gives your life content and meaning and purpose right so when you leave metrium it got to be to a better place you don't just leave you go somewhere right it's not just I left that I leave to go but then there's an ultimate goal what's the ultimate goal of all of this stuff is to make yourself a dwelling place for God that God dwells in our heart and in our soul and that's what the word Michigan the word Michigan I mean you know say what is Michigan Tabernacle what on Earth is a tabernacle I mean we don't know inherently what a tabernacle even is just like filling it's filling or translated as phylacteries so somebody would ask you wonderful actors you know they're chilling the actual word so sometimes the translation is more obscure than even the Hebrew term but really a tabernacle means a Dwelling Place and the word mishkan is kind of dwelling place so the idea of a mishkan is to make a dwelling place in your heart for God and this is khazal have a beautiful dress a very famous dresser make for me a mishkan make for me a dwelling place so I will dwell in them God doesn't say I dwell in it God says I dwell in them them meaning the Jewish people the heart and the Soul right that's very very critical the miktash the basa miktas all of them are symbols of the divine presence that can reside within me this is why there's an interesting medrish the king of Babylonia destroyed the first temple he was very proud of himself because he basically said oh I destroyed the house of God look how powerful I am and God basically said you didn't do anything I don't live there anymore meaning when we are no longer worthy of the divine presence in our hearts then there'll be nothing in the base I make this it'll just be a building hey you know you didn't destroy the house of God I already moved out because when God is not in our heart and our soul because of our different sins or whatever it is so the beta miktas is like any other building because what is it after all yeah the base okay well the Michigan is portable but even the eventual based on miktush that was built in Jerusalem it was a beautiful building okay it was physically beautiful but you know I don't know if we could say it was the most beautiful building you know in the world I mean I don't know the Taj Mahal might be nicer the point is not the physical beauty of the mickness although his way of glorifying God we try to make it beautiful of course but the point was it was the focal point of God's presence within our heart and within ourselves and that's what makes it beautiful that's what makes it important I'm sorry do you want them to say something yet so are we trying to trying to make ourselves our own well yes now that's not going to replace the Mitzvah of a basamikdus But ultimately the basic itself is a right it's a symbol of our mission our mission in life is to make within our heart and within our soul The Dwelling Place of God and there's a famous statement of the cutscarebe the enigmatic cutscarebi or somebody asked him where does God live and his answer was God Lives wherever you let him in you let him in he lives in you you don't let him in he's very accommodating I mean God could be anywhere he wants obviously but you don't want him you don't want him to let him in so he's not gonna you know not gonna bother you so to speak and that's the idea of making it and that's why there's a famous phrase uh it's been set to music it's from the safer kharidam it's from a great maccobo in my heart I build a tabernacle for God there's a whole series of swarm that are very good sperm both English and Hebrew they're called The Bill lovey series it's based on this theme of making yourself uh you know a tabernacle uh for for her kurdishborg so that's really the ultimate goal of everything we talk about leaving mitzrayim and we talk about uh you know getting the Torah but the ultimate point of keeping the Tory you know I could say you know your job is to do Mitzvahs okay your job is to put on to fill in your job is to keep kosher you have to keep shops all of that is true but in a deeper sense it's a means to an end and the means to the end is to create a relationship with Hashem that is uh in your heart and in your soul the mitzvos bring us to that Torah learning or at least it's supposed to I'm not going to say it always does because sometimes we have our own problems so to speak and things are not doing the maximum effect that it should have but the ultimate goal is to have that relationship with Hashem what's interesting is according to Kabbalah you know your soul may be getting it even if you're not consciously aware so for example we say when you learn Torah you're connecting to Hashem now a person might legitimately say well I don't always feel that way I don't always feel sometimes we do feel that way and that's great but sometimes we don't so like what do you mean I'm learning Torah I'm getting closer to Hashem I don't feel I'm closer to him so here you do have to understand that there are aspects of our soul that we're not always aware of on a conscious level it's hard to understand that because you think well the soul is within me but on the other end we know there are things that are part of the unconscious or the subconscious and much activity of the Soul is imperceptible to the conscious mind so when we're learning Torah in point of fact we're always getting closer to God even if we don't always feel it in fact the urachium writes a fascinating thing they aren't I am rights in a way Hashem doesn't let us feel it because if we would feel it we could never stop learning and we would die of starvation he actually says he says if you would be aware of what your soul is getting when you're learning Torah you would be so addicted so to speak you couldn't stop I mean he means this literally you couldn't stop you couldn't sleep you couldn't eat you couldn't do anything what would happen is you would die so God does not allow you to feel the fullness of that connection and that way life is enabled you can sleep you can eat you know whatever whatever you need to do because God after all requires that our soul function in a physical body right that's that itself is an interesting mystery why did God create things that way but in fact people ask why did God create sleep and that's it's a really good question really I mean we have to sleep right that's a human need that's a physical need to deliver pressure human beings have to sleep the question is but God could have made the you know God could have made the universe in any number of variations why did God create a world where so much of our time we kind of can't learn and can't do Mitzvahs because we're sleeping uh back once you know this could drive you crazy and there's no real great answers for this because then you're thinking well why did God create a world where I have to eat you know I mean all of these things taking me away from my main tasks my good question I don't have an answer but given given that reality that we do have to eat we do have to sleep the oracayim says God does not enable us to feel the full intensity of our connection to him when we learn because otherwise we wouldn't be able to do anything else yeah um what's the best is there a best type of learning to do so the truth of the matter is and and the most fundamental level it makes no difference in truth in terms of your nesham in terms of feeding yourself however given the fact that as conscious beings we need to have motivation in order to learn so hazal gave us the eightsa that one should learn those things that give them pleasure meaning you should gravitate which is not really a direct answer it depends on the person but you learn those things that you enjoy this is called and I think that overrides almost everything you know we could talk about you have to learn halaka you have to learn Musa you have to learn Gomorrah you have to learn Kabbalah you know you can give a whole list of things but the ultimate thing that trumps everything is to learn what stirs your heart and there are reasons for that too because every neshama is calibrated to a slightly different wavelength of the Infinity of Torah and therefore something may resonate very much with you that might not resonate with somebody else and vice versa so you try to find the wavelength and usually you have a sense I mean most people you know as you of course you have to be exposed to different things in Torah otherwise you're not able to see what's what's right for you but at some point you know you get a sense of what really gets you excited what really gets you motivated what really gets you interested and that should be where you put the bulk of your efforts now I realized what I just said may seem to contradict the whole notion of the Yeshiva program I know I get I get in trouble all the time with things because after all what the Yeshiva program is is a curriculum now you might say well yeah but I don't like a lot of stuff in the curriculum right I would rather spend the whole day learning Hamish let's say and not doing Gamora or maybe a little rarely but I would learn tomorrow's all day without doing any hummus right or personally right and yet we kind of say you got to do something of everything so in defense I would think that you know like everything else you don't really know what you like until you're exposed to a lot of things you need to be exposed to many many things and then eventually as you gravitate in life you know you'll emphasize those things that give you pleasure yeah and also it's the case that maybe your neshama can purely pursue what it wants to learn or so on in that state similar to how if you were your soul you would just want to study all the time but maybe you yourself require uh to learn what's practical so when you give us how much that's that's beneficial for us it allows us to live in a Jewish Community there's a practical well yeah of course and of course I mean keep in mind on the most on the most basic level uh if you want to live as as a religious Jew you know you need to know how to keep Shabbos how to keep kosher I mean there's no notion the fact that you enjoy Kabbalah more than halaka you know you know okay you got to learn halaka because otherwise just just for the simple reason How will I know how this happened how will I know how to how to keep Shabbat so there are 100 practical pragmatic uh ideas of what you have to learn as well but but again as I say you do have to find something that feeds you spiritually though because sometimes you're focusing on detail which are very important but it doesn't necessarily nourish you in this well well capitalistically it does anything you learn is nourishing your soul that's 100 true but in terms of conscious awareness I need something that inspires me as well that's why you'll find frankly you know when I was in Yeshua you know many many years ago you didn't see that many Hasidic books Hasidic yeshivas foreign now it's very very different right you walk around you see a Tanya all over the place and uh you know different things uh and part of it is because uh people maybe as we get closer to mashiach people feel a need for things that are more overtly and directly spiritual now again I want to I'm choosing my words very carefully even the most technical discussions in Gomorrah are ultimately spiritual they are spiritual but they're not overtly spiritual meaning I learn about two people holding on to a Talus yeah that is feeding your nashama it absolutely is feeding your nashama but in my mind I don't really automatically see how it connects so maybe in a weaker generation we need to have things that are more explicitly spiritual because otherwise we feel we're being starved so that's why I I would suggest Hasidic books are much much more popular among them than maybe they used to and I think it's a good thing I think I think it's a good thing in fact the building gun rights the building the gun rights writes that as we approach mashiach the learning of Kabbalah will be more and more prevalent and more and more necessary now people say well wait a second in a way that's an opposite trajectory because part of our Messiah is the generations go down in level right we are inferior this is the famous teaching hadoros the generations get less and less now Kabbalah is very Advanced Cabela's so how can you say that more people will be into Kabbalah as we approach mashiach if the generations are getting lower and lower and lower but the answer is it's not really a paradox because the concept is when people were in a very very high level they could absorb the mystical light directly from Gomorrah and directly from Hamish they didn't need a formal learning in Kabbalah they they just took in the truths directly as we get like inferior we need like more explicit we need to be more open about these inner spiritual Dimensions so it's precisely because in that the analogy would be that the worse your eyesight the more powerful the light that you need and if you have good eyes you could might even read in semi-darkness when you have bad eyesight you need like a brighter light right so it's the same idea Kabbalah is like this bright light but when they had good eyesight they didn't need such a bright light so much so Kabbalah was not something that they needed that much we need it we might need a little bit more because we're you know our eyes don't don't see that well we need bigger lights that open up things right so that's the Paradox of why the villagon says as we approach mashiach we'll be more involved in Kampala yeah um let's see assuming someone's already doing yeah and someone only has half an hour um during the day to stay to stay Torah um how should that person dedicate to like to what subject right so here I have to tell you a famous joke maybe you've heard this joke although maybe it may be a true story somebody once went through every cell cilantro and set exactly your question I only have a half an hour to learn torrete should I learn Kamara or should I learn Musser muster is ethics so if you saw cilantro said I say learn Musser because if you learn Musser you'll discover you have more than half an hour to learn it'll make you more self-conscious that there's more time than you think but okay but but let's assume just for purposes of the question that you genuinely only have a half an hour uh and again and you you're very correct by the way you asked your question in the right way because many say Shania mikra is the most important thing you have to do so we're assuming you're doing that could be with English but but you know you have to read the Parsha of the week in that way but after that I I would say that some practical halacha might be the most important thing because you need to know the Practical Allah on the other hand I would suggest that even that is overridden by martial meaning if you really really love something that should be the thing that you learn because the thing is enthusiasm is contagious meaning when you learn something you really love you're going to find you know it'll go beyond the half an hour and it's going to expand into other areas so uh enthusiasm is really really important in life generally it's important in life and it's especially important in learning you know learning is hard work uh and we can you know that's why why do people get so exhausted it's an amazing thing you know you could be having this conversation spirited conversation full of energy full of energy as soon as we open up the Gomorrah um you know fall asleep we get tired right so learning is hard it takes a lot of effort but when you have enthusiasm that gives you that gives you the energy so that's why I would say move in that direction yeah um I mean I'm thinking about how there are things that we can learn and through my scene and there are things that we learned that effect are amazing so I mean seems to be that there are many um like deep profound Jewish values yes have to be learned also through through like doing certain yeah in fact I want to tell you a beautiful story and for some reason I don't say the story a lot but it really is a very very nice and interesting story uh again with a resource launcher a a Coachman a person who you know this is before there were cars a person was a coach driver horoscope driver Stagecoach driver and he went to every social launcher and he said the results launcher was talking about how every Jew has to learn Torah every every day so the coach driver said you know I never went to Yeshiva you know I went to work as a young man I don't really know anything I can't open up a mission I go number one I don't have time and number two even if I had time I I don't have skills I don't have any ability so it's not just at the following you're a religious Jew right you wake up in the morning you wash your hands you may you make a break on the dealership I am you say Torah you dive in chakras well you know if you were to Simply this is pretty amazing if you were to Simply go over in your mind what you do every day you would be learning Torah in making that list I make the statement okay I wash my hands every morning three times to prepare myself for the service of God I make blessings over the Torah I say chakras which is comprised of tsuke the zimra I say the blessings before the Shema and these things but you have you have just fulfilled the mitzvah of learning Torah by going over the basic laws that you do every day so we told The Coachman he says just go over your schedule and you are makayam the Mitzvah of talmud Torah by going over the actions that you're doing and what's going to happen is then you think more about your actions like you know a person might say to himself um I made blessings before I learned Torah just ask yourself why why do I make a blessing before I learned to I mean I'm not getting I'm not even going to give you an answer to that but you ask yourself a simple question you know I made a blessing thanking Hashem for opening up my eyes think about that now that's learning care learning program is not only when you take out a book or take out a safer and you read something it's about thinking about your obligations to God thinking about your religion thinking about you know your life that can also results are told The Coachman that could be Torah too that you know reviewing your mind what it is you do with your day and try to ask yourself why a little bit and try to understand it a little better and your makayam the Mitzvah Optometry what is Kabbalah exactly and what and why was it initially something that was hidden and not revealed and invited Generations required yeah so the word Kabbalah just means received tradition in fact we can use it in non-mystical ways I could say for example uh I have a kabola from my rebbe that you know I don't have volume at my Shoppers table even though I'm allowed to I mean them I just made up something like that right so the word Kabbalah just means a tradition however as it's commonly used today it refers to a very specific tradition and that is what you might call the mystical tradition of Judaism and that is an in-depth understanding attempt to understand how God interacts with the world so for example I might say I believe God created the universe that's fine a capitalist will try to explain the exact ways that God created the universe in very complicated deep complex different stages and right so for many people I believe that God created I don't have to know everything but Kabbalah delves into those those things right I believe that God dictates everything that happens to me that that's the simple statement of the belief the Kabbalah will show exactly how those forces are employed now initially it was limited to only a very small group of people because most people either didn't need it or they wouldn't understand it and if you don't understand it there can be negative things but as the villagone says as the generations decline we need a little bit more exposure now let me point out that when I say that everybody should be exposed to a Kabbalah we don't mean heavy duty Kabbalah itself exists on many many levels there is a smattering there is a taste there's a little bit of connection you can get but that's not really the whole the whole thing there are yeshivas of capitalists here you shallim and they're not they're not like hidden you know it's not like you figure people are hiding in some basement I mean they're open it'll say Yeshiva of the makubala right so you figure you're going to walk in and you're gonna see Angels or be consumed by fire no I mean they're like regular people I mean I mean I mean I think there's something special but they're regular people you know you could see them in the store you know getting kala for Shabbos or or whatever it is I mean they live regular lives but they also study they study Kabbalah and they say that they interestingly enough they say it takes around 15 years of concentrated study till you feel comfortable in kabbalistic literature that's a long time 15 years so uh so we do our little you know oh I learned Kabbalah you know 15 minutes a week before Shabbos which is skill Goods you know it's good it's a good thing but just compare it to the idea of truly understanding it is a totally different thing how did we do with the more rationalist minded russianim who must have been aware of this mythology like the Ramones yeah this is a huge huge huge question because indeed if you take coach which we'd call the rationalist branch of Judaism which was the mahalik of many many we shine him most notably the rambam and before the rambam of sajakone uh so the question is what is their relationship to Kabbalah were they aware of it if they were aware of it did they accept it did they reject it did they regard it as a complementary stream of thought or did they regard it as something that they rejected which would imply that there can be authentic Judaism without Kabbalah these are very very difficult questions that are still being debated today we don't necessarily have a Final Approach I think the simplest way of dealing with it the simplest least controversial way of dealing with it is that different nishamas connect to God in different ways and therefore because God is infinite God Embraces all possibilities and the interesting is the interesting thing about Infinity is that Infinity May in theory Embrace contradictory possibilities there was some professor in Princeton I don't remember his name uh he said that um every possible universe that that could exist does exist uh for example there is a universe of talking donkeys or or or whatever it is and therefore in fact this goes back to and we talked about this a little bit um can God create a square circle in other words is God bound by Logic so to speak now one argument is well God can do anything God can do anything and therefore God made the rules so God made him he could break it right uh so why can't God create a square circle so so maimonides based on philosophical premises says even God is bound by Aristotle he doesn't put it that way but he says Aristotle's first law of logic is the law of non-contradiction uh he says a cannot be not a whatever a is and you maybe you don't know you don't know what a is but the one thing that a cannot be is not a because it's a and he says even God is bound by that particular construct maybe he can but he chooses well well at least this is the structure we created so God cannot create or has decided not to create Square circles and this goes back to the other the whole genre of question you know can God commit suicide uh can God make an object that's too heavy for him to lift Etc because if you're telling me he can't make an object that he can't lift then you're limiting his power on the other hand if you're telling me he can make such an object then you're also limiting his power because something is too heavy for him to lift right so you get into all of these laws of contradiction so this goes back to the same type of idea that rationalism that's the Roundup on the other hand God can do anything God could make a circle with five corners and whatever it is so I'm bringing this in because in many ways rationalism and mysticism are contradictory ways of describing God's interaction but if God is not bound by the law of non-contradiction then there can be multiple truths that coexist even though they contradict although this may not make sense uh from a rationalistic perspective but that is how this is a very long-winded answer to your question that is how rationalism and mysticism can coexist as truthful systems even though many of their premises are in contradiction because within the within the Infinity of gods there can exist these contradictions now there was an attempt by a few kabbalists to integrate rationalism and mysticism the most famous attempt was ramosio Cordova who was the main macabo before the arizo in which he tried to create a systematic analysis of Kabbalah that fit with philosophical syllogistic rules that got smashed by the irie they had luriana Kabbalah is very much not at all rooted in in rationalism but the older cordovarian cabala was in fact rooted and what's interesting is although the Irish Kabbalah became very very dominant there continued to be attempts to kind of get back to a linkage of rationalistic and mystical and in fact it's to some degree this is what the balotanya attempted uh the alter rebbe attempted attempted to kind of rationalize the couple Israel I mean the problem basically is that it's almost I mean I mean I not that I can really Express an opinion there but it's almost doomed to failure because the linkage of rationalists and mysticism worked under the cordovarian system doesn't work very well with the Irish so if you're trying to kind of do what you have Moshe cordavero did with the Kabbalah and the Ari it's like it's a different cabala and and you're working in something that is almost not reconcilable unless you say what I said the God is not balanced by the law of non-contradiction so you can have these multiple contradictory aspects of divinity both of which are are true yeah I realized what I said may not make any sense at all but as an abstract idea this is how you how you would approach it yeah cool and I have a question just quick I I also like Rabbi godley's take which is that you just can't even ask the question because if you say Square Circle you're not stating in coherent sentences I don't know if that ultimately satisfies or works but yeah well I I I yeah I said it in a different way but that's essentially the rule of non-contradiction that's what Aristotle said that that that's incoherent under the laws of logic the basic laws of logic which require coherence yeah it's just another way of saying it but but again breslip takes the position that God is not God created logic God is not bound by Logic and therefore God is not bound by coherence I mean that's a it's an extreme view that we don't even understand but this is the uh metabolistic view so I want to describe this one I can do so by saying it's lior I can also do so by saying it's the it's the working of atoms when you say that well or not when you say but when there's this idea that Kabbalah is received is that a statement that the same words at Mount Sinai were simultaneously you know it it can't be I mean listen listen I mean I I just spoke two minutes ago or a minute ago about school of Kabbalah and the arizal school of Kabbalah now what's going on here ramosa Cordova lived in the 1500s and I relived later in the 1500s now if you're telling me Kabbalah is a system that is handed down from mosharabino in which way can I possibly talk about different schools of Kabbalah dating from the 1500s well I mean in the sense that same way that you have different schools of like physics right yeah so the idea is is that the same words that were given whatever's given about Sinai it was simultaneously description of leor but also the atoms working leor and then you have a question of interpreting the underlying mechanisms of lior but there's a agreement there that is simultaneously the words are what they are like as kumash the stories but also descriptions of the underlying mechanisms behind those stories it can be both is that the sense that it's received that what was said at Mount Sinai was also this underlying thing which was the same thing well on some you know I I just don't know the form I mean on some level something was received but the interpretation and application and implementation was left to the sages of Kabbalah to interpret and apply just as is true for halacha as well so the thing is though we don't really have um a liturgy like unlike the hummus where we know what God gave to Moshe at least the written law we don't have a written Kabbalah so to speak is the written Kabbalah the same thing as the other writings it's just that it was like when I received lior I received all the autonomous Atomic information of the universe or whatever within Leo right and he's giving me both right is it a sense that maybe those written works are those other things at the same time it's it's hard to say I I don't think there was any any text that was transmitted meaning I think these were ideas that were transmitted but they were not concretizing they written text until the Zohar now even the Zohar uh the earliest state of the Zohar the earliest and there's a country controversy about this but let's say let's go with the accepted view is early he's a Tana but that's talking about around the destruction of the second temple you know so there's nothing there's no written text that claims to go back to Sinai even the zoa does not claim to go back uh that that that far you know so it's not exactly the same uh yeah so going back to uh the philosophy versus cabal approach um yesterday you're actually in the Q a brief intention on this issue that also we just mentioned now um if God can if God can um not be bound by Logic yeah according to Kabbalah or if he's gotten biological philosophy then potentially in philosophy um you we could possibly understand um the answer to the questions of why God created Created certain Concepts like evil or pain or whatever because you know as we know reality reality and logic is that those things are necessary to create reward and gain no pain no gain all that um now the only way you can question that is if God's not bound by you know it the only way so if if you're bound by Logic then asking how why God couldn't create a a game that comes from no pain which isn't an accident coherent question and logic you know so if God's Bound by Logic then we answer that question you're not you don't have an actual thing that you're asking right right so so it makes yeah yeah so you're saying it makes the question stronger yeah I hear yeah yeah you're right you're right I mean if God is Not bombed by Logic then uh essentially uh every Ultra every alternative reality is is a possibility so why did God choose the uh malevolent options yeah no you're right yeah very good very good questions I mean listen I I mean I'm going to be frank that there's going to be a point in which we're all going to hit a a blank a wall you know uh we could ask this and this and that I mean for example other people do give answers for this you know everyone knows the famous Derek Hashem which is really from the arizal that God created the world you know to be style his goodness and so why doesn't God God just give us goodness because we would be embarrassed we would be ashamed we'd be humiliated unless we earned it so then people ask well so why didn't God take away the embarrassment in other words at some point you know you go further and further and further you're going to come to a point in which I don't know because we work we can describe God's behaviors within the construct of the reality that exists and it can be coherent and sensible given these structures of this reality but one could always raise the question well why couldn't there be an alternative reality and I'm not sure you'll be able to have any answer for that at all right that would only be a question according to Kabbalah where he does indeed where he is indeed not bound by by his logic well I'm not sure about that because um Kabbalah is taking the position that even within the confines of this reality God does is not bound by Logic a philosophy would say he is but I think even philosophy might concede the possibilities of alternative universes now there's the laws of physics are are are well fixed I mean even though some say not but you know within the confines of this universe there's gravity but it's not inevitable that gravity has to mean things go down there could have been a universe where things go up you know I remember um uh Superman comic book this goes back many many many many many years and I think they changed their formats now I can't even read Comics today it's just different but um there was this uh alternative Universe called Bizarro in which everything was everything was the opposite right it's kind of a symbol of that of the possibilities that can exist in the uh in the world or there was a Twilight Zone where um everybody was ugly and ugly was the definition of beautiful and this woman was born beautiful and she was a freak and she was ugly and they because she was considered like the ugliest thing in the world yeah and where Rod Sterling was trying to show about racism he was trying to give a mushrooms about you know he had always always these points but it was so interesting that you know in the universe in the theoretical universe that God could have created there are infinite possibilities and therefore when you hit a question of why did God create reality any purpose a certain way in some ways that's an unanswerable question because we can only perceive logic within the constraints of the existence that that we have okay uh yeah uh speaking of Kabbalah we sometimes think about idea of creation right and about being powerful and taking stuff out as well and nowadays the ideal power is very much attentive but the idea in modern day era have an idea of artificial intelligence my question is like this so in your opinion is the creation of ultimate uh artificial attendance or just great level of artificial intelligence is it going to shape or change Jewish understanding of uh the world or and can we as a Jews perhaps use it or what you know this this yeah this AI thing scares me to death not only for the narrow parochial issue whether I lose my job okay that's that's a side that's a separate issue but it frightens me a lot because I now want to know what makes human beings unique what is unique about the way we think now we can we can invoke the words well I have an ashama that doesn't have an ishama and that's true but I I no longer know so much what that means what is added to me by the godlinessama if this thing can replicate everything that I do and I understand it's not there yet I understand it's not you know but it's moving it's changing I mean it even simulates emotions I mean this guy this reporter was talking to it for an hour uh and at some point the machine said you know your wife doesn't really love you you know why don't you why don't you come to me you know we can have a relationship you know we understand this machine is talking what on Earth is going on here I mean there were these old science fiction things about you know the machine all of a sudden you know becomes uh becomes human I mean we're approaching this it's absolutely very frightening now we have to believe in faith that we are in the image of Hashem and there's something unique about a human certainly something unique about a Jew but it's getting harder and harder and harder to identify operationally what that is so to me this is absolutely I mean it's amazing it's amazing but it's absolutely frightening now if you're asking me a pragmatic question uh can it can it be used in productive ways of course it can it's a beautiful information gathering device it can be the starting point for all sorts of development of thought and as a tool it's perfectly fine it's perfectly good of course it's going to be a whole issue now about people doing term papers in college I think it's gonna totally subvert the university system I mean people can get doctoral dissertations through chatback you know just write me a difference between you know uh Neil's bar and Einstein's up for a first finish come up with a thing so putting that aside how are you going to monitor it it is a very very amazing tool but I think it raises some very very frightening questions about the singularity of human identity uh and that's that's very very scary like what are we what are we and um so people say Well when these machines Express empathy and emotion that's not real they're just Gathering Together responses but then I think to myself well how often are we real you know we do fake stuff too yeah so it really really drives me very very crazy on the other hand there's another way of looking at it and that is look at the greatness of the human mind that was able to create such an entity now the office of vodka said that you ultimately appreciate God by seeing the greatness of the human being that God created I'll dress the vodka so in a sense it all goes back to God people who were able to create this thing I mean this is a phenomenal genius on their part and they in turn were created by God right so ultimately it all goes back it all goes back to Hashem but as they say I am very very uh confused and almost frightened over this phenomenon yeah I have a question about um palmistry yeah is that something to get into it no uh see it's interesting Kabbalah itself has two branches uh all of virtually all of the books of Kabbalah that we have are called theoretical Kabbalah they they describe the structure of the universe and how God interacts and it's a way of understanding on some level how Hashem interrelates with a tangible finite universe but then there's another branch of Kabbalah which has far fewer books because they're never printed these are manuscripts and that's called practical Kabbalah in which you actually and that's already connected to Magic in some ways you use things like palm reading and face reading and all sorts of things and this is highly dangerous stuff and the reason it's dangerous is because the Torah itself prohibits magic and sorcery and divination and yet a lot of these Kabbalah which use the same things it's okay because it's coming from the good side and not the bad side and there is a concept of dichotomies between powers that come from kadusha and powers that come from Tuma but to The Observer you can't always tell the difference so we actually tell people don't get involved in this because you might wander into the wrong side which is literally called Citra that's the capitalistic word the other side so we we discourage getting involved in Practical Kabbalah and that is why whoever I mean there may be a few people in the world that do it legitimately very few but there are not like sperm on this there's our manuscripts that people keep under lock and key that are just for them they're not for general public yeah foreign it's a very depressing thought knowing that a machine can basically take over yeah all of your jobs almost every single job you know if you're based on an information related job or you're consuming and learning so much it can do that like that yep and then it also gets into it it's so human-like and they're even trying to develop more Consciousness related things yeah I mean it's depressing I mean I'm not sure how to even it is it it is depressing I mean this is um to me this is actually one of the most momentous technological developments I think in human history in terms of a technology uh because it really challenges us to to redefine our role in the world uh and I don't know you know we'll have to see what comes out I mean I mean hopefully mashiach will come before all of these issues have to be addressed but there's a lot that's going to have to be addressed here this is really changing this is a real game changer in terms of the world this is not just a nice other a new app that came out on the on the market okay got to stop here anyway be well have a good good job