Bubby Zush Testimonial

Cory please I press okay give me one moment I'll tell you where to start hi I'm my name is Harry I'm gonna be their first interviewer for the names not numbers project so if you're asking you questions for like a couple of minutes first what's your name my name is Sophie rule begun wearing like whenever you born I was born in Poland Papillon Itza 1923 what did your father do for living tell me what did your father do for living we had my father manufacture Club sodas we had the factory of you know not only did we manufacture big siphons but the glass siphons and people said this is a distributor of that and beside that we had a candy shop how many siblings do you have five four beside me how many brothers two brothers and three sisters describe what school you went sailing describe your school their names my oldest brother's name was Myers then we can describe your school like my school yes school I was going to a public school we were lucky we had in our city two Jewish schools and I was going to one of them and I graduated in 1938 from that school and then I went to watch to a bigger city to go to a Jewish High School private Jewish High School and then the war came in 1939 all this stuff for me no more education after that describe your relationships with the non-jews like the relationship with the non-jews like how did you get along with them or I don't understand your question like with the people that were not Jewish like in your town did you like get along with them or you just didn't talked about how how I was getting along with you none Jewish yes were you oh we've had as children and in fact we lived in apartment building there was a German family in the girls were my good friends no problems in whatever else I was not that much exposed to non-jewish friends I had a lot of Jewish friends what was your favorite subject in school history geography polish the Polish language I really loved the Polish language and what were you what were your hobbies like what did you oh I love knitting sewing everything I was always a reader and that's that's all my time free time allowed and then I belong to organizations was I missed organizations I was going to a religious vice yankov Jewish school for girls after my private after my public schooling that took up all my time describe any anti-semitism for the world like that we felt and you would not go out after ten o'clock in my city by himself we heard of a lot of cases where Jews were stepped by poles and during the holidays they was always [Music] science and Jewish doors the couple used that that means done by from Jews don't support the Jews and it was felt very unfortunate even though we all try to be good friends but the anti-semitism existed before the war can you describe your Jewish community like oh we had a very active Jewish community Jews were we had a lot of shoals we had a beautiful shoals in the old part of the city and they were stealer and the best method is my father belonged over Smith by Smithers most shops like for you beautiful llaves the Shabbos yeah my father was a traditional Jew he was always going never missed a Shabbos service he took my brothers to Shoals it wasn't coming that girls went to show but for the High Holidays we all went to shul and my father used to bring home order with him for the Shabbos meal we always had somebody at our table and everything was very traditional in my house then effect being that my parents were busy in business there was a Gentile girl helping with the family because we were five children but beside that Polish girl there was always all the cousin in my house to to watch the Polish girl to keep up the coast and not to mix up anything our house was kept up potion what was the name of your community like the name of my community yeah it was the name of the city I lived was happy on Easter what was passed off like for you Oh a lot of fun like I said we lived in the apartment house and the biggest pleasure was the first stage and infest over the first day of Passover to come down to the yard all the children of the neighbors showed off their new clothes from the starting from the shoe run through the nice dresses to nice clothes whoever had it was a lot of fun and then the traditional Seder and finding therefore common my younger brother always made sure that he finds it was finding it and it was nice nice like I said my father kept it up and my mother with the cooking always delicious food my mother used to make a lot of home things starting at Hanukkah by saving the he's fat for Pesach and the delicious grievance and all that we had a lot of fun because it's Hanukkah right now like describable was I found to for us children every holiday was fun it we play dreidels we played you had to guess in your hands how many things you had in your hands and you know somebody guess she was a winner didn't guess the other party wasn't women we had our own ways of games and childhood was very happy for me or your favorite foods during Hanukkah and a lot of kids of course they did you're right mom have specialty with I cooking my mother with I was not a big leader I was a very classy either so my mother always used to say that giving me a good piece of meat or a piece of nice car posters in because I used to make a mess of it I used to take it apart not to fight I was always afraid to find that drop of fat on everything so I was taking it apart to make him make a big mess of everything well circus like for you we had the balcony so we neighbor and ask the two families we shared a soaker and we try to make a lot of nice things to decorate the circle we took very a lot of pride in making our saga with because we had competition the yard was other neighbors that had to talk her down in the yard we try to have the prettiest sugar always so all of us were very busy can you describe the Jewish community in Lodz where you want to work where you went to high school like 10 years robbery but what I was doing I was traveling to school every morning and I was not that much familiar was that was a big city and I was going for mine tramway or train I traveled by train or tramway and try to make my city to make my school and back home I had the relative some time that I visited at the school but that was not that very often because I had to go home and don't know more describe what happened when the Germans came I describe what happened when the Germans came oh that was a shock we did not believe what's happening it happened so fast that it was a shock to the community we didn't have a chance even to stop the living that the war is out that there is war and they were right they were right there we didn't live far from the German border so to come to our city was like they were right there and the trouble started the right then 1939 September 1st okay let's use next-gen trainer were you always this stifle after yes you're gonna start don't you move it a little bit and don't take the microphone with you when you get up so describe you'll start with 14 um how my name is Jake oh my name is Jake can you describe what happened when the Germans came like I said it was tragic for us people didn't know really what's to expect we heard that they did not pump up my city because we were so close to Germany but we already heard that they bombed Warsaw our main city that they bringing a lot of problems with them and rather way they built the ghetto for us and it didn't take too long that we had to leave our homes and go into a ghetto and from this from our home kettle in 1942 they sent us - they marched us to a sports place and from there the next day they kept us overnight there in the next morning they transported us to lunch to the city of Lodz where they separated us my father my brothers and I the woman my mother and three sisters were separated my father was sent from lots ghetto back to puppy onyx to clean up the ghetto with my brothers and once they were done they sent them to hell no and my mother and my three sisters we stayed in the Lodz ghetto we had to sign up for work because without work we could not get Levens metals carts that means carts that provided us with the ability to shop for our rations we were given relations and every one of us work at the work my mother worked in a place where they make house slippers I worked I was the oldest girl I have worked in a place get from pray that strong I was sewing shoes boots high boots for soldiers that were sent to the Russian from and those boots supposed to protect their feet over their boots they wore them over their boots to give him warm and those boots were big we had to make souls that big and then build up a shoe high up so we our needles were that big and we saw that those braided strong with the knit with string so I've seen it was a court awkward work the more you make the more money you made in being that I was the older sister I try to make enough money so we would not have to sell our errands because in a lot of families people didn't have enough money to get their ages though they were selling part of their poor Asians in order to be able to buy out so I I used to make 12 to 14 15 shoes a day I had a hand here that was all swollen from pulling that string and that's what I did in the Lodz ghetto but then one day the president of the Gator came to our resort and out of the West he picked my name this was already toward the end of the ghetto and she picked my name and sent me to work on the fly Central that means that I worked in this meat center and I was we had stores that the publicans to come and get coupons and and the coupons they were giving their ration of meat and I worked in one of the stores as a at registered occurrence I was not the professional lead person but my job was to register the cards and that my card went to the boots and we had a line of people working and the butcher at the end with the card stemmed from hand to hand she was given the amount to the customer and then after that that was already 1944 I was we were forced to leave our place and we had to come to the place at the train station and we had to leave we were sent and the training two outfits but in the meantime they separated us from one my middle sister they sent them to another camp they blocked up living scarves and she couldn't see in and on top of that they blocked all our thoughts our labels middle scarves and she couldn't see the way we all were hungry starving so she said I'll survive I'm a strong girl and she went away and the next thing they sent us away in ever since we didn't hear anything from my sister and I was just in sent with my youngest sister and my mother two outfits August 8 1944 like to ask you some questions about the ghetto Oh can you describe what the Lots ghetto was like if you can imagine hell on earth is not enough people were sent from all over to get all together also people from all over Europe from friends from Austria from Czechoslovakia all were sent to watch ghetto of they were sent to other places but a lot of them came to lodge ghetto and in logic ghetto all around what I lived the whole part of that Paul polish part was sent to get a tool so there was so many people in the ghetto that that the houses were all the text with people they they were maybe twenty people to one room and there it's undescribable the hygiene problems and everything terrible and beside that the hunger a lot of European people from other countries were not used to hunger and they were starving like like flies you go out and you used to go out in the street and you couldn't find corpses of people laying like swallow from hunger just laying down the street and people a lot of people kept their corpses mine too this is against Jewish religion but they kept the corpses of they could collect and not a couple days operation for the departed person it was tragic I myself I came to the ghetto with no just clothes that I had on me and the hunger the cold we had nothing our our relations we were starving there was not enough bread there was not enough of anything out of the coffee results you know they they we didn't have coffees like here but from the grains of coffee who used to make pancakes with nothing in it just mixed with water and put on the pan just to have a substitute for bread and we at work we were given soups but with just couple slices of potatoes so sometimes we used to bring those home to give to my mother my mother shouldn't feel the hunger and out of the hunger myself I was swung my legs were small I had shoes anymore I water wooden shoes and Men affected some friends that try to come and visit me I used to say to my mother tell him that I'm not home I didn't when I was embarrassed that people should see me the way I was people knew me as a different girl in India in the lodge getta I was a different tone so I I used to tell my mother to tell my and then so I should skip these two yeah anything okay then you go into number 21 all right wait don't start yet hi my name is Michael Pedram and so I would like to ask you can you describe a day in the ghetto which ghetto the Lodz ghetto that lot together yes like I said before it was very hard to make through a day because of the hunger and hard work and we never knew when they were actors that meant that the Germans used to come in and catch people and send them away without any warnings so it was we never knew when we went to work if we were gonna come home whenever oh they were very strictly the Germans they never told us what they gonna do they just kept keep check because catching people and send them away they blocked off at a certain area and you couldn't get dinner out and that the people in that area were gone who knows where not to come back and fortunate ah what did your parents do as a living pammi what did your parents do as a living oh I mentioned that earlier my father was manufacturing shelter and we had a candy store yes no no no that was before the war in my father it was nothing the Lodz ghetto my father was sent away other way to clean up they all get on poppy onions and then when they were finished with that work they were sent to hell no this was a that was a Kemp not far away from Paulson and they they didn't keep him in camp they had not really a Kemp they used to put him in the bosses would guess in it they told them they'd take him trip they get them by driving and then they throw him out in there through the bodies in the woods that's how I lost my father my two brothers terrible did you have any friends or siblings in the ghetto yes I was I had my mother in Miami had my two sisters what happened to your family next after the ghetto after the ghetto yes my mother perished in Auschwitz unfortunately they they cleaned up the Lord together that was 1944 and the Russians were coming closer so they tried to get rid of us made everything you denying before the Russians were coming in so on August 8th was the time for the part of the city where I used to live to get you 9 so they brought us to the station to the train station in Lodz from which they send people away picked us up gave us a loaf of bread everybody got each a loaf of bread that that made people happy so dogs to get a loaf of bread and picked us up like animals into trains and that's how we travelled for a few days packed kids all the people young people with not an open window not a breath of air to Auschwitz in an Auschwitz they segregated us the elderly people to one side the young ones to another side and unfortunately we didn't want to let go of my mother we got TV my sister and I and they took my mother anyway away and while we were in the beds they took us to Vedas save us shave my head not only mind all of us and my mother never when was brought to the crematorium and I never saw her anymore she couldn't see the way we were to beaten so she said go kids I'll see you later never saw her again so why it was my mother 1944 and I survived the war with one sister and we lived we tried we were liberated we escaped actually from transport we were marching to that's how I'm on the death march and my sister one morning bend down - we slept in the fields in the margin we had no roofs over our heads while marching and she bent down to wet her lips with a little grass with a duo of grass and she got hit by ourselves and over the head and she couldn't get up I had to pick it up with that friend of mine my body next next to me we were marching in fives and I I could not see my sister feel like that I said if we survive we both survived and if we should not make it we've not gonna make both of us we die together and we decided to take our lives in our own hands and while marching this other girl was older than us she was already more experienced she was in the partisans in Vilna ghetto and she we looked up to her with experience and we her name was China and I said Sharma you tell us when we should run because this is we never make it like that and we marched through woods and one side we marched for a while and then she says girls now it's time run and we ran to the woods so deep they were shooting after us because we marched with other nationality girls and they they told the SS people that Jewish girls escaped we're in so deep in the woods that we found skeletons of animals and we stayed there for a while till it got dark we did not have striped clothes we had regular clothing with painted KL on our decks and white stripes on the sides so we turned our clothes inside out we must don't look like scarecrows because the transport went one way and we went the other way till we came up in the village and we knocked at one door the woman didn't open the door she must have been scared of us and we told that we Polish girls we didn't want to admit we choose we were afraid we were in German territories and we told that that our Factory got burned out which is true because we were born from the resident we were interested in during the big bombings of the first big bombings of the Allies that reduced their town to nothing and by a miracle our factory was burning in the last minute they took us out to response building that's how we survived but after that they had nothing to do with us in the factor we were not professional people they only kept engineers and they send us an amount to get rid of us and and that's how we escaped and that woman didn't open the door she sent us to another village she says in the next village there's a Polish girl maybe she'll help us and by miracle I don't know how God got must of take us by our hand and provide proof to take us to that girl we found her and she said help us does not need help but his brother might take us what she did the same night we came to the brother's house and they was a big loaf of bread homemade bread and the big terrain of soup and he said sit down and eat we couldn't believe that we live the day to see a loaf of bread in front of us and we ate and then we slept in the barn which felt like luxury to compare to sleeping in mud and we had to work we worked and and very early in the morning he was afraid that his neighbours shouldn't see us either so we're like 4 o'clock we already were in the fields working but we ate he asked us to feed the animals and instead we ate their animal's food the boys potatoes for the spines whatever we could get a cold and we ate we discovered just dried meats we cleaned up this place yeah how long were you in Auschwitz I was an Auschwitz two weeks what did you do there nothing they just kept us they didn't know what to do with us so after two weeks they put us back in the trains and send us to another camp to another up north in Poland three miles away from the Baltic Sea to stood off which was like another outfit and it's too tough I was chosen by the Brock ancestor by the SS woman to work for her and I took my sister with me I said maybe she can help me and she agreed that my sister should work with me and I I the people that I stayed in the columns back in the barracks I used to bring out my suits to them because I ate a lot eldest as suits and the blessings I got from those people for my soaps God should only hear and and it seems that God heard those blessings because one of the woman was her big rabbis daughter and she must have had some influence up there because after the world look what I got a family of seven grandchildren and great-grandchildren but anyway in total you want to hear that story or you want to switch first and I think we have to go back and make a little more order in it because what's gonna happen the boys have to edit this and make it into a story if it's not an order they're not going to understand joy okay this camera's not being stopped right they're gonna go through after Auschwitz and the DP camp and then after that they're gonna ask questions about each of those things okay so try to you know just talk about the what their if they talk about Auschwitz just try to answer that question they have some questions about the DP camp I have some questions about America okay okay you're doing great managing did you want to two weeks in Auschwitz so we really don't have that I would say maybe describe two-day announcement this question that's it and then what had on Nexus where did you go next okay okay talked about the death march but it's all out of order it might just do we want to put in an order so they'll be able to make it into a movie you're gonna start with describe - when he's talking okay where did you go next cost I'm gonna take them yes where did you go next description so you're gonna start my name is and then describe a J announcement my name is Andy Sheppard [Music] my name is Andy snipper I have to talk a little bit slow okay hi my name is Andy sniper and can you describe a day in Auschwitz yes we had to get up five four o clock in the morning and get to the second tale appeal we had to go outdoors call the Navajo well however the weather was in a little bit of clothing we had it was very cold because this was like a city down where the nights were cold and that we had to wait for there for officer German officer to come encounters that's why they call it ste ste Latium we had to stay in fights in order not we're not allowed to breathe even like soldiers until that officer came and counted us then we were given coffee in a slice of bread for the day and we didn't do much in Auschwitz because we were not assigned to work they they they manufactured a didn't give us numbers because we came in late and at that point every transport went to the oven but when we came in they asked the young ones to keep on site for whatever orders will come and they needed people to work in factories but it seems like my transport we only stayed in Auschwitz two weeks but the days were horrible the hunger the dirt the outside the outer facilities I mean there was latrine open latrine that everybody had access towards no showers cold showers if they were showers cold showers it was terrible and the manufacture a my assistant was a little bit shorter than me she and the sale of them she stayed behind me and enough to look pale because they picked people of today open from the say lapel whoever didn't look good or something a little pale or sick looking that person had no life anymore that was it they marched him through the ovens so when order not to be left out she stood up on her tiptoes she roasted cheeks to be read so hard blood was running down her cheek she was not aware of in order not to be separated from us from me and tanka we made it that way the sleeping condition was again the same thing we had to sleep and our shoes because otherwise they were stolen people were stealing from one another the people slept and they tried to save a little bread for later they were not sure if they're gonna heaven late because it was horrible what was going on and not only that but we had Jewish girls that knew Germans that spoke German mostly Hungarian girls that were older than us and they were going around with whips they were like instead of besides German SS people watching us we had those girls watching us they were going with whips hitting light and left and they tried to make themselves look in front in the eyes of the Germans the more they beat the Jewish girls the other girls the more they were praised and that they were good workers so we were beaten hungry swarm not a good picture of us whoever did the clothes they were giving us they made us look like like clowns and told their own used to get shot a short dress and a little girl used to get the dress that she tipped over it and we had no choice after taking out a way our own clothes they gave us whatever they wanted to give us that's it we had no choice so we look like clowns with shaved heads it was horrible depressing a lot of people didn't to live but being that I had a sister to live for and vice versa we kept going so we made through our streets and we were sent to start off which was another house which again we had to say stain and say lapel and be encountered in the hungry the same conditions it's just that I was lucky that I was chosen by a CSS woman to work for her that we were eating her food because she was getting better food yet and and my food I brought used to bring out to the people that I used to sit in the five column and I got their blessings for because I was bringing life to them giving them my soul my mind and my sisters and in Auschwitz I kept working for the local Chester and one day somebody came from the air bites are bites department from the labor department looking for three girls because they were keeping Institute of the men in charge of the Lodz ghetto picked engineers in Lodz ghetto he got all the engineers with their families he brought them to start off because he was building a factory airplane factory in Dresden for himself and he kept all the engineers till the factory would be ready in the mean time three people three woman died and stood off from that transport and they in by the Germans then the numbers had to be exact so when that person from the ER bytes department came to look for three people my sister said Sophie let's put our names down I said but her name was Miriam I said Miriam we had soups here we have food we're not starving she says but maybe by leaving here we'll find somebody from the family we couldn't believe that there was nobody left anymore and I listened to her and not only that I put our two names but in the column that of my fifth was another girl from my hometown a school friend that I put her name to under list in the three of us were included in the transport of the lodger engineers and we left one day to go to the residence and the Russians were coming close in and we found out later that a couple days after we left the Germans the Germans told everybody that they gonna ship him to Sweden so they put him on the boat and they drowned them there was nobody left alive then effect after I came to the States in one time there was a get-together in Washington of survivors and they put survivors by by chance they set them up by each table had another camp and they still top camp there was just me and my sister there was no survivors other survivors so a boy was lucky to get out of thought of a life with the most with the transport of the engineers and and stuff and was there anything else for you to eat in Auschwitz besides for the coffee and bread I cannot hear you was there anything else for you to eat in Auschwitz and ash which day one day was the same as the other day facing the pacing of the crematoriums seeing the chimney going 24 hours we were always stiff scared our turtle shouldn't come so once we were under under station train station to lift houses we were happy we never knew what to expect but at least we know we got one camp behind that's already we out of our streets where did you go after Auschwitz I went to stood health describe the death march did that much that's not just capable we had no houses or anything planned for us to stay in we march during the day and wherever we were at night in fields and woods that's where we slept and as I mentioned earlier it was dreadful we slept on our shoes nobody should steal them from us and that morning one morning my sister bend down to wet her lips she got hit over her hat and we decided to take our lives in our own hands one way or another we knew we not going to be alive so it didn't matter at least we by taking a chance we had 50/50 chance so we took our lives and we ran we escaped from the marching columns when you escaped did you have a plan of where you were going to go we had no plans we just follow our fate we whatever it's gonna be it's gonna be in we were lucky to come across the Polish woman that helped us to find work at the German farmer describe the day you were liberated just describe the day you were liberated oh that was a very happy day we were working on the farm as another day in all of a sudden that Polish girl came running and she said you don't have to work anymore the Americans are under oath come let's go greet the Americans so we dropped everything we were doing and we ran to the main road and while the Americans were marching in front of us I spotted a chaplain a guy with Jewish stars and the epaulets on the shoulders and I waved him down and he says I cannot leave the columns he come back later to us which she did and we told them we Jewish kids we need help we he was just like a godsend he took care us he took us out of the farm he stayed this was in in the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia in Sudetenland he took us to the hotel he stayed in cows but one that's a very famous Czech spa and from Klaw he started getting together clothes for us food whatever he ate we ate and he spreads his wings around us like a father the three of us and then one day he said kids it's time to think what you want to do with your future where you want to go we said we want to go home to Poland and he tried to find connections with the Polish government to see if there's anybody came back from my family to my hometown and he was not successful unfortunate there was nobody left he could not find any family for the world so it was the next questions where else do you want to go we said we want to go to Israel so from that place he connected us with the Hagana and illegally he sent us two pills and that was the point where the Hager now from Pilsen Center support two other points to go closer to the two Israel and in Pilsen it was like a pimp that people used to come from all over the Russian side from work from all over Germany and one morning somebody comes into my camp to my block what I stayed with my sister and my friend looking for chicks from Lodz and it was my husband-to-be at that time and his friends and there is a friend look is asking for his maybe being that I was in love with people from Lots together that I know of his family because that's how people try to find one another and I told him unfortunate even though they were in the same place but I didn't know anything about them and we kept company because we were we had no other to say anymore so any friend any any Jew was it was relative and they wanted to go to Israel too they came from proud they were liberated by the Russians and when it came time for me to go to Austria from Czechoslovakia to the next step to Austria and the way to Israel my friend my husband-to-be came over and he said that God does not ask people to go from one war to another because Israel was at warm he said let's get serious let's go back to Germany we'll get married and we'll go to America so that's what we did we went back to Germany in high state we went to here involved to a DP camp in Germany in South Germany near Munich and we got married and we had to we moved to Stuttgart we did my husband had enough camps he says that's enough for him and we moved to Stuttgart in nice data being polished both of us we had to wait four years for the Polish hotel in order to get to America so my daughter was born my oldest daughter was born in Germany and time came that we came in 1949 March 2nd we arrived in America with a little girl my sister's stay done because my brother-in-law had their uncle in Israel definitely wanted to come to Israel but they still followed us to America and my sister could not be away from the zone and we followed my husband's older brother to Hartford Connecticut and there was another couple it was we were four couples and all the related except one couple of friends and I have a picture of my wedding and we stayed in Hartford then I move each then when everybody went a wrong way but we stay together because we had relatives my brother mom my my husband's brother my sister's husband that's what we built already our foundation with relatives and looks for business look to make a living and it wasn't easy but we made it I showed that my picture described your wedding describe your way describe the four weddings the four wedding it was happy and said no mother no father to help us nobody to help us plan anything we had to do everything ourselves lucky we might dis friend this couple of friends brother was a butcher a kosher butcher and he we prepared the whole wedding ourselves of course we hired Orthodox rabbi we were married by a Hungarian Orthodox rabbi we had to go to mix huh we had to go through the whole process of rituals and everything and we celebrated in Polish style a whole week we got a house in the Kent so the four couples slept down and and the top of the bed of the house and the bottom of the house we gave to our guests we celebrated for eight days with shaiva brokers with everything anything else you want to know and what I want to say it's not the wedding I was married first point because the chief rabbi of Israel was I don't think it was also clear that one of the couples was Miriam and another couple was Sam I don't think it was clear that it was two sets of siblings so maybe we can ask one more quick question about okay you're gonna start with this question first you make sure you wanna say you know maybe the oldest doesn't okay a B thinnest you you want him to introduce himself yes I like to introduce yourself for those however you call your great-grandmother mentioned some time so I should say say hi puppy you call it bubby so hi bubby thank you for and then you're gonna start with this twist what's the message to my generation she's in my generation you have to do six questions and I'm [Music] hi Bobby hi darling so as I asked you a question sure um what is your message to to my generation what's your message to my generation I don't know what is your message to up to my generation what's my message to your generation you know you should keep up first of all Judaism is very important we cannot let our enemies win and and have have the anti-semitism exists we have to fight and be thankful for our Israel because maybe if we would have Israel before the six million Jews would not die either so it's important to support Israel with all our might and believe in Israel and fight for Israel and educate young people that being a Jew is a pride that we paid a very hard price of of what we have today that all everything stands and unfortunates and the sacrifice because all the Jews went killers Hashem in the name of God and those innocent people their innocent blood should bring the Nafis of you young people of going on and believing and creating Judaism to be magnificent for the world an example for the world why what can we do to fight Holocaust denial what can we do to fight Holocaust denial the same thing believing and shouldn't doing good things and be kind to one another and educating the world that's why I want to be part of helping you kids so you should understand and to be examples for others that the Holocaust should never happened again what when did you begin to telling your story I never told my story here in there maybe the family I mentioned facts when the situation's came about that I mentioned certain incidents but I never could speak about that it's very painful for me I still didn't give you details about separating from my father and brothers how hard that was to be without them during the war and then the moment of my mother going to the oven it's tragic I cannot really I could never bring it out of me so it's the first time that I speak to you kids why did you just why did you decide to tell us her story why did I tell you that because seeing you enthusiasm one thing to know encourages me to tell you do you do you have any photos to show us and you pictures yes wonderful I'll show you my family from before the war I had an uncle in Yonkers that gave me a small picture that my mother sent him to show him his new family my mother was the youngest sister in his family so this is this is my mother this is my father's this is me my grandmother made me a national Polish costume so I am and a Polish costume and this is my oldest brother and my twins my younger sister that survived with me in my youngest brother Abraham his name was Abraham which never made it none of the brothers made it in this system never made that label her name was Reba you mad you grandmother's name then I have a picture of my wedding that was done in the DP camp by parrot salt was visiting unique area right after I was married by the way five months after the war in 1930 Danu Erik 26 1946 in rabaa a rough healthop was visiting the area at that time and he heard about a four wedding which was a big event of four couples of survivors to get married and he wanted to come and visit us and he came late though and he managed to marry the youngest couple my sister and my brother Noah were the youngest couple and he promised us as wedding gifts to give us the first certificates to free Israel we never gathered but that was great to have him there was a privilege and this is me after the war um how do you have all these pictures how I have the first picture of my family I was given by my uncle that lived in Yonkers so coming on the boat to the States my first step was to my uncle's house and that's what he gave me the picture of my family I enlarged it I I made it into a big picture it was just a postcard and I it's very dear to me because on the back is my mother's handwriting in either's she is telling him about a new family if you could speak to um do you have any do you have any other stories to tell us and you stories yeah do you have any other stories I was working in Dresden I was lucky to work in the kitchen with my sister and but we were hard we could we had to scrub until vegetables and everything and I got infection in my thumb here and it was so bad the infection spread all over my arm I had green things and my arm and with us in the same camp we had a Jewish doctor which was a heffling like us a prisoner like all of us when he saw my arm he says something has to be done otherwise I lose my whole arm so in the night a few of the men prisoners Jewish people helped me and the doctor boiled the kitchen knife and they helped me I shouldn't scream because god forbid that they assess people would hear me they would send me who knows where so with a kitchen knife I still have a mark from here here that he opened them one and he saved my life and then I have another incident in the lodge ghetto I was sick with typhoid and I was sent to a hospital but by nature I never get fever so they did not cut off my hair because the first thing when you have fever but I for it they shave your head and I had no fever and there worked as an assistant a friend of mine from school he was like a doctor's he'll turn like a nurse's health or whatever he was doing there they was and the Germans came to empty the place for all the infectious diseases so they emptied the whole hospital in the last minute that friend of mine told the nurse to give me a white a white coat and what she did and being that I had my hair they they did not take me they didn't think I was sick and that's again that's how my life was saved otherwise I twice I I would have been here I faced my eye I saw miracles in front of my eyes the same thing like being able to escape still tough not to go under bolts because if I would go on the boats I wouldn't be here either if you could speak to your parents today what would you tell them what if you could speak to your parents today what would you tell them I would speak to who your parents if I would speak to my parents yeah what would you tell me what I would tell them how much I miss him because happy occasions you miss your family that occasions you miss your family my family is missed every minute of my life I miss until today how do you feel about Germany Germans in Germany today pardon me how do you feel about Germans and today what I think about him no matter what they doing we'll never make him look good in the front of my eyes because a country that walrus was thinking of themselves as higher intellectual and everything could become beasts I I witness how they through children from roofs and stones and how their head splits and all that when I could see that it was the end of the world for me I I lost faith in humanity and Men effect I I don't wanna admit but as long as my husband was alive I'm still a member in that synagogue in an Orthodox synagogue but as long as Ben was alive we were active members in everything but since I was my husband thirdly two years ago I cannot go to shul except the High Holidays I I have to admit God knows that I still am a member I didn't cut my membership not that's how far I can go with all that I lived through how did the Holocaust influence your faith could you say it's strengthened or weakened how did how did you cope emotionally with the Holocaust experiences my Cove what kept you going day to day I still don't know what you're asking what what what did you how did you cope emotionally with your Holocaust experiences once we had a family I tried to keep everything away from my children we tried to start a new life and not show too much our sufferings not to influence my children we wanted to bring up normal people people that had faith in humanity so we didn't want to influence them too much but on the long run and the long long way my children know how we suffered our pain when the holiday comes when the good occasion of Education how we suffered losing our homes our BAC background our in Denton E we came to a country that nobody knew us we were like with nothing we were nobody in this country we had to build up our own names our own existence our own personalities for people to know to respect us in a way because then I felt when I came to the country that people felt that how come you didn't do nothing how come you didn't fight how come you just went like sheeps to the to the slaughter it's because that's how Germans worked we never knew what to expect they took out our pride they cut us off from knowledge they put us in ghetto species behind electric wires and all that we had no contact with the world so we they deprived us knowledge of what's going on and we didn't know and all of a sudden that it was alarmist if we had to leave everything can just go so it's it's not that we didn't want to fight we had no chance to fight as the last question could you tell us about your necklace about the negative this is this is my joy and pride this is my God's blessings I had three children wonderful children and from my three children I have seven great-grandchildren and ten great-grandchildren and this is mine this is why I go on living because I have a wonderful family and wonderful kids and they keep me going god bless them that's it you did a wonderful job the gentleman would like to give you a token of their appreciation okay it just taken thank you I did it I did it like I said I try to encourage those young kids to go on with that they should know and cheap they are knowledge to share with their generation exactly so keep it going to fight anti-semitism to fight the knowledge that as a Jew you cannot keep your head high you should be proud to be a job that's what you that's the message you gave them do you like to come do I like to cook this is a cool yes I don't cook anymore but I'll take the bubble take Josh come to my first phone okay why don't you sit down and everybody will stand behind you [Music] my camera let's alter it not here no no please ready one two three one more ready one two three wait wait we one more camera very handy one two three Thank You tragic I hope you're thinking underwater cards you take one you take one just the two of them just do an Avery you wanted me to holder