How to Become a Music Star - Boruch Sholom Blesofsky

Welcome Rasham. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Do you compose all your songs on AI? >> Next. Next. >> Baram could you Bari great honor to have you on the show. >> Could you could anyone because I think of we mentioned last show my dream is to make a hit song. It's my dream. >> And then >> is it really? It is one of my like >> you told me about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And then I met you on Chabas. We spoken about it and then I mentioned AI. So is AI affecting the music industry at all as a composer or singer which makes you makes someone unique clapping. Most >> singers just go on um Amazon they buy a song right. >> Okay. So my question is like this. First of all is this question interesting? And I I and I'm not like challenging the question from itself like why do people like Okay, I guess we'll answer it. Okay, AI. Okay, it's AI. Cool. It is It's such a boring thing. AI. It's like a keyboard. >> Keyboard. >> Okay. It's a keyboard. You make a song. No. Bottom line is AI has nothing to do with anything. >> Nothing. No. >> Can I see in my show? I type up the messages. My friend took the message. I shot this boring text message I put up every week rabbi speech there was no shod the kids sponsored by yep >> I mean the guy put it into AI or claw whatever it's called within a second it had a gorgeous background broke it down stars sections I'm telling you a graphic designer was charging $100 to do what claw did in under a second now musicians like guys like Yussi Green or these famous guys I don't know there's a lot of few of these famous guys Now they're charging probably four, five, 10, 20 grand for really good songs and they're worth it. >> Hold on. Wait, wait, let me finish my finish. I need a pen and paper. >> A song like Tanya that I've run freed made millions of dollars in concerts. >> He made millions millions of dollars in not off sales. He loses money on every CD he sold. >> He goes to weddings. He goes to concerts. He's getting paid 15, 20, 30 grand these popular cool songs that Green composed. he made his money 500 times more, whatever it was, 15, 20 grand. A song like Tanya >> or a song like, you know, these popular songs, could AI, the same way it took away a graphics designer's job, could it create and compose a song? You put in the words, put in Jewish tunes, and could it get you give you a $10,000 Yasi Green song? >> Okay, fine. So, first of all, I just want to argue with the first notion of this case. So when you guys are talking about your coffee branding and this you can make a you can make a million dollars off of this because if this guy who's this >> fifth >> Oak oven oaken is going to do oak and what >> oven >> oak oven oak oven oak oven hits it off he sell 85,000 bottles billions of bottles trillions of bottles the music industry doesn't work like that doesn't buy this song he doesn't walk at the Yasi Green's house and say oh here's 10k and Yasi says wow that's amazing amazing. Here's a great song, Tanya. Yeah. It doesn't work that way. These guys are invested emotionally into their business. They would be broke in theory and still be writing songs up until they're 75, 85, 90. The guys are taken are people that are invested in their music. They don't look at it from a money standpoint. Now, I'm not going to say they don't love money. Who doesn't love money? But it's not their drive. So, Yasi Green doesn't look at Tanya as a $10,000 item or $20,000 item. It's something that he really wrote from his heart. Alvin Fre connected with it which by the way I don't know if he did initially. I think he actually pushed away the song >> but we're not going to that because that's not my story. So bottom line is whatever but we asking AI >> could AI make some of some beautiful songs. >> So I don't know the only thing that a theory that I had about that AI helped was Zusha. This a theory that I have that Zusha AI helped. It's not that they made this song they allowed Zusha to kind of imagine different things. So for example, if I'm drawing a picture, I could have AI draw it and I could see, oh, is that something that I would really want to draw? But AI in itself, first of all, doesn't replace any jobs because a real graphic designer, again, a real graphic designer, not a fake graphic designer. A real graphic designer cannot be replaced by AI. They have actually real art. You can tell when something's AI, everybody's selling the same. It looks old. It looks the same. It's like a AI person. All the AI cheap books, remember labels for label, beautiful. all the other cheap books that came in the last three years. How I love Hashem, Two Feet on Hashem, whatever. 8 F feet in Hashem. All those books are all AI generated. And he could tell because all the kids noses are in the same shape. And you saw the same shape on Spider-Man. Whatever. I don't want to go I What is AI? AI is like a computer program. We have to talk about this computer program forever. I don't came to the market by storm about seven, eight, nine years ago. He came to my sh somebody asked him to Davin Musf. It was beautiful. I heard he's a musician. He sings. He goes around. It's cute. >> Goes to, you know, I don't know. He's like unique, exotic. Him and these other guy that does the other funny looking toy that he plays with Zack. >> Yeah, Zach. Very good. Yeah. >> Whatever. It was nice. It was cute. He did a beautiful mus. It was good. Whatever. The last two years, all you hear is zusha. The not from crowds, the from crowds, the people are obsessed. Mishi tells me every day that his popular song now should be the new Jewish national anthem. >> For Israel, you know what? Just do it has like a gazillion hits. The whole world is singing. >> How do we get the World Jewish Congress make it the official Jewish national >> it's actually it's one song that would like like if he did any other song be like no but >> he did what? To make that the national anthem. >> They deserve it. You know why? They didn't mean it. That's why they didn't make the song for it to be a national anthem. >> What is it? What is the song? >> They made a song. They're like legit genuine real musicians. These guys. I like that phase about Jewish music. I think that's okay. As if it was wasn't it was always like that. The guys that are on the top. I'm not talking about for three years. I don't want to go there. Whatever. Point is the guys that are legitimately on the top are not fakers. They're legitimate artists. They are. Even if I don't like them. Even if I don't like them. Even if >> legitimate. What do you legitimate mean? which means like I don't know it just it's it's it's not pretentious. They're pretentious. Isaia pretentious. No. No. They're good. They're real. They're real stuff. They're the real deal. >> Why are songs timeless? Timeless. >> I know. But they are good. >> What? >> What makes like many of them timeless? >> Let's talk about songs like a different section of like different like niche. um Kbak because he's a writer without without a >> he's a writer. He wrote it. Yeah, he wrote the songs. He didn't buy it in Amazon. >> Okay. So, yeah. Yeah. Why? Because his nama had that type of thing in it. Like why does it why does certain rabbis have big myimm? >> Same thing. He's my mar songs. I don't think there's a difference in that idea. I don't think you could fake it. You >> think it's magical. >> It's Yes, it is magical. And his nishama was obviously supposed to bring down that music. It's a spiritual thing. That's why I pushed back before about the $10,000 because I'm sure Yassi Green's incentivized about money. I'm sure money incentivized him because he's a human being. But he doesn't write from that place. Otherwise, the song wouldn't last. He wouldn't be talking about Tanya at this point. It's too It's too old for it to have last. It outlasted the money. It out he already paid off his house three times from that time. By he didn't pay off his house from that whatever. I don't want to go there. >> They did make money by the 80s and 90s. They made a lot of money off their albums, but it wasn't the reason why they made it. >> Everybody I speak to in the music world, even when I was a kid in the ' 90s, had neighbors that put out music and they was pushing their CDs and their cassettes, you know, Goldstein. No, he >> Oh, I didn't mean it that way. Yeah, >> he he was saying that there's no money ever in cassettes and records. This is before iTunes. They only make money playing at Simas and concerts. >> Now, >> he said then in the '9s, he was saying that even the famous ones, there's no money only make money on >> Yasi. Yasi Goldstein. No, he was Yeah, but he was saying that musicians in the Jewish world make no money off their records. You only make the money off getting hired for gigs. >> You're saying there is money. There was money. >> I mean, I hear what his experience was. I could tell you about other singers experience. I mean, >> you're saying were making money off the actual record, not the concert. >> I never counted how much money they made, but I think they were doing okay. >> Just the not from the concerts, the record itself selling. Put it this way. They didn't have to go on a podcast to push it. No, I'm serious. Like, they didn't have to do any of that stuff. >> Also, how you enjoying our new coffee? >> Very, very, very, very, very, very, very good. >> What do you like about it? >> It's very good. >> Clap, do you know the story behind our coffee? >> Do you know the story in it, >> what is the story? I'm I'm I'm trying to taste the notes >> notes of the coffee because usually I have milk or almond milk or oat milk, so I don't get to and or there's no sugar here, >> but it does have a little bit of a sweetness, a natural sweetness, >> by the way. Go ahead. I'm sorry. >> And I'm still It's not like, OH, IT'S THE BEST THING I HAD IN MY LIFE. IT'S LIKE I'm >> for, you know, for every everyone else's brand, Clappy's happiest ate the best thing in the world. When it comes to our own brand, we finally started a brand. He's not so excited. What are we going to do? I'm I'm enjoying it. >> I think we have to pay it. But it's >> I'm buying, you know, I'm buying a bag. Okay. I'm buying a bag. >> Thank you, bro. >> I'll buy a bag. >> You see, I think we have to pay clappy then it's good. Until we pay, you don't have to push anymore. Let me ask you something about this beef jerky butcher. But first of all, can I ask backstage how we doing so far? >> I'm sorry. I always I'm always like doing performance. I'm always thinking back. >> Giving he's giving you thumbs up. >> Yeah. Good. Thank god. Okay. Yeah. Entertain like if you were watching, you still want to be on like I'm just wondering how to gear these things. Okay. I'll tell you what the thing is. Your first podcast? >> Yes. First podcast. Yes. >> So, you know how to behave on a podcast? You're not sure. You know, you're going to know the rules or no rules. >> What rules? Like I'm saying, what's a podcast? It's like whatever. The less talk less formal I think the better. No. >> Yeah. There are no rules. That's all. >> So, you're becoming flesh at 2:30 in the afternoon. That's it. You're giving up on all the coffee, all the pizza. >> I didn't think about it. >> Oh, you just pulled them out. You >> Okay, one second. One second. So, basically, I went to I was I I ran into this coffee shop in Williamsburg >> and I drank the coffee. It was insane. And it was like naturally sweet. I asked him, "Do you put sugar in it?" He said, "No." >> And then I asked the owner, "Where is this coffee?" Oh, it's from Ethiopia. It's Hold on. It's some special region. >> Origin >> something. Hold on a second. >> I think it says the region on the bag. >> Well, >> I think we >> No, we did. And we missed it. >> The first It's on there. >> Yashf. >> Oh, it's on there. >> It's on there. Guys are the best. >> Yashef region. And uh I said, "Okay." So, I called one of my coffee contacts >> and he said, "I can make you I can make you the coffee." >> So, I said, "Great. Let's, you know, we don't have any merch on the show yet." >> Do you remember when we went to the guy's office? It was like air of tip or something. >> Yeah. >> It's crazy. >> And we we sourced, we this, we this, we played around. Boom. We knocked it out. >> And now our coffee clappy and frank >> Ethiopian coffee is available. >> I never email. >> I never thought my name would be on a bag of coffee all the way from Africa. This is like the best stuff. >> So, admin clappingfrank.com. It's $24.99 plus shipping for a 12 oz bag of coffee beans. >> And the roaster told us that he tested said it's between 14 and 20 cups depending on how much >> four cups or something. Yeah, >> something between like 16 and 24 cups depending on how strong you like your coffee >> which is about 4050 cents a cup and uh you know you go into other national chains you could pay $5 and here you get to identify with our brand. >> Clap and frank the best coffee bro. Yeah. >> What does the average song sell for in the market currently in the Jewish market? >> I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. They say 15 and 2,2500. >> I wasn't so far off. >> Wow. 2,000 for a song. >> Yeah. I don't know. >> Oh, you know who the name I couldn't remember. There's a guy that's really popular. I heard he put out a good 20 hits. A guy Yity Waldner. >> Yes. Okay. Yi. Yeah. Yi. Yity writes from that place. >> From the money place. >> Not from the money place, but yeah. Yeti writes from the money place. Yi is more of a money writer. And by the way, it's not that again, not that any singers. >> Yeah, but like I could because because he's putting out tens like boom boom also did actually. >> What's Wner's biggest hit? >> He from a different It's >> hard to know. His mom is different. >> Do you remember a pop song if the audience can listen? Oh, that's a Wner. Which one? Like you heard everybody. >> Yeah. I'm trying to I'm trying I'm trying to go to like that's like Waldner, you know what I mean? Like Barlavin is Oh, but Barl is also a composer, >> right? >> I did not know that. >> Barak Lavine. I introduced him on stage at FFH. He gave one of the concerts. Every night there's a concert there. >> So he's a singer composer. >> He's a Zeta. He's a Zeta. He's a Rebi in Yeshiva all day long. And he's a singer. >> So one second. Is FFH also advertising? >> No. >> Okay. So let's not talk about Yeah, exactly. And they don't hire you. Did they hire you? >> They did hire me. >> Okay, we could talk about it. Back on. They're back on. We just threw them off. You're back on. Ley, relax. >> Ley, I love you. >> So, Barak Lavine is a very ad guy. >> I I I we spoke we spoke before the concert, we spoke after. Very adama. So, that is actually something I wanted to ask you how there's some musicians, it's their entire life. >> Yeah. >> Like David is not selling life insurance or maybe he is. I don't. >> No, I don't. I mean, he thought of it probably five times, but >> is not selling lighting fixtures. that he may doubt whatever he might a guy like Barak >> a guy like I grew up listening to his albums he's a reba >> and now it's like so so who decides that they're good enough that they're going to quit their 9 to5 or I guess the bookings decide >> Russell you do music full time >> yeah I do music full time yeah >> and what at what stage when was the turning point when the the money in the bank >> no no I had a job I had a job I was a special ed that was doing that hack um >> special ed yeah >> why do you call it a hack >> for me it talk. I was totally in a physical >> You was working in a restaurant. >> I also worked in a restaurant in a restaurant. I worked a lot of odd jobs. Um, >> at what point did you >> what point? Okay. So, I get up in the morning. I remember and I was going to and I was I was good at the job. Okay. I teach I went into leasing and I had decided, okay, I'll tell you the story. I So, while I was doing the art, I decided, you know, the heck with the art. I'm going to go into leasing. >> Yeah. Plaza leasing. >> Uh, car leasings. That's that's a shenan. >> Yeah. But here's what happened. >> Also didn't know. >> I No, no, but I married it from a different perspective. I said like this. One second. There was always, you know, these special deals like uh I don't know, take >> Jaguar. A Jaguar. No, Jaguar. That's whatever that was used for two months, but if you want to look hot, you're going to get this Jaguar. So I realized whenever Okay. And now you make good money off the Jaguar. The special. The special. There's only three cars. There's only three Jaguars are available that month. That month there's only And I came in that month. So I realized, forget about it. If I sell you a minivan, how much the minivan? 450. Let's say$450. Okay. The other friend's 460. I have nothing to offer you. So whenever someone said, "Hi, how are you? I'm looking for a minivan." I said, "No problem. I transfer to other salesman." And I said, "Whatever." They said, "You're looking for a car. You want a Jaguar?" If they did not want the Jaguar, I transferred the call and I got two out of the three. And I made myself 4,000 bucks. >> Wow. >> Now, here's what happens. The guy is so awesome. He tells me, "You're out of here." So I told him, "Why, A, he's a good guy, A." He says because he says it doesn't matter if you're good at it. It's not for you. And I was like, "Thank you so much." It wasn't a fire like it's like you don't belong here. I remember him telling me because he lives in there MVD and needed. It's like I don't want Mara or Yeidle working here. I don't want you working here. It's weird. And that's what it is. Singers depending on which ones because there's a very broad thing of singers. 98% of them I'm not talking about. I'm talking about 2% of the legit don't work during the day like that. They just don't. It's just inappropriate. >> You're saying it's sacred. >> It's weird. >> Weird. Is it sacred? You sing sacredness. >> Sacred. Yeah. >> Singers are like these sacred holy things. >> It's s No, it's just I don't know. I can't explain. It's awkward. >> How many head songs do you have? >> Okay. So, a special ad. Wait. Making good money. So, you wait a second. I love this. So, you decided they he explained you how it wasn't for you. And now what? What do you do the next day? Hell yeah. I'm out. Byebye. Awesome. I have no job. That's why I'm not supposed to be working. I'm not supposed to be working. Like this whole thing of working. Seekers don't work. Now they do work. They work very hard, but not like that. Not We don't work like that. It's like I hate to say we. It's as if it's like an individual thing, but people that are in it understand what they're talking about. It's like I I can't explain it. >> Ellie Marcus when he first got married, his mother-in-law has Mala catering. I remember him coming many many many times like not 20 like a h 100 times maybe for a year and a half delivering the mala catering food on Fridays he drove the van with the workers there was something back beautiful and then one day it didn't happen anymore he was finding his sacred identity in all and then in in music >> yeah and now a should mention every single singer that they should last I'm not saying it's forever but when they're in that zone they can't be working so then you say of course they're not working because they are making so much money off their gigs no I was like I was having to any gigs. I quit my job. I had no gigs and I quit my job. It's nothing to do with having jobs or no jobs. >> Your wife didn't throw you out of the house. >> Wife didn't throw me out of the house. What do you mean? She took me into the house. >> The heck you want to be married to a guy that's desperate for cash? It's ugly. Ew. Whatever. Next. So unattractive to be addicted to cash. Yeah. Go ahead. >> You What about Clappy? He's a performer. >> Do you think he should not sell life insurance or a podcaster? He's not >> I don't know. First of all, he's a different type performer. very good guy. >> Yeah. >> Well, for the record, I don't sell life insurance. >> Right. >> I don't like I don't want to make rules based off this. Like you have to feel. >> You say entertainers should not do other stuff. >> They should. Why not do it? I don't know. I do it that you know two days ago I helped out my friend. He is a plumber. He had no workers. I went with him. But that's different. And okay, maybe other singers wouldn't do that. >> You got paid or was a volunteer? >> He actually gave me money >> and I took it. You know why? Out of principle. Because for me it's the same thing. Me going to the studio, me helping him in the plumbing thing is the same thing. This is bothad. Well, if you give me money, say you take it. Like instead, I'm going to give you a dollar. You don't say, "No, I don't need the dollar." You take the dollar. Someone gives you 100 bucks. Take the hundred bucks because it's energy. It's nothing to do with cash. Like, >> how long did you go full-time music? How long ago? >> Okay. So, three years ago. So, three years ago, I told my wife, I got beautiful job. She have a lovely special. Okay. I don't like doing special ed. I'm a great special ed teacher. I hate the job. It's very boring. I got a good job. Hashem, good kids. Good kids. Couldn't do it. Having my I just had my fifth kid. Can't work. Can't go to work. Couldn't go to work. Couldn't step in. You don't get it. You give me $400,000. I can't walk into work. >> How long ago did you go full time? >> Three years ago. >> Three years ago. Done. >> Yeah. No. No. Two years ago was like when I >> No matter what. >> Yeah. No. No. Two years ago I cut the bridge. Boom. Bye-bye. And the boat's gone. >> Well, cuz I didn't finish my degree. So therefore, I couldn't go back and I can't do it now. >> How many gigs you got a month though? >> A lot. >> How many? >> A lot. >> What does it a lot mean? >> I'm not giving you numbers. >> No numbers. How much you charge to perform? >> None numbers. Also no numbers. Okay. >> Those are sacred. Only sacra I see is the numbers. >> Bakovski. >> You are from the famous Khanimovski family. >> Yeah. >> All amazing. Amazing characters and personalities. >> Amen. >> Like my father's friends. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. >> Your father Bosovski, your brother Schmully. All characters. Par excalance. And I didn't hear all what I'm seeing, but I know you guys are musical in your bloodstream. Amazing vocal skills. >> And the Harit side also. >> Wait, I'm going there. Wait, I'm going there. No, >> the Har. Okay, one second. Yeah, go ahead. >> The Harowitz is what I wanted to say is the Tashken, >> the Tashkanters are personalities that are one in a gazillion. Yeah, >> I'm telling you right now, and I'm not confident you in any way, >> the people skills, character sch smoozing skills of the Tashkanta Harowitzes and the musical skills of the Bosovskis is a very unique blend. Very unique blend of the sch smoozing loud character. How do you take that blend and mix and use it properly, which you're doing now with music, but I'm just wondering like it's a lot of energy and it's a lot of talent and it's it's a massive. >> Okay. So, first of all, um where were we holding? First of all, thank you very much. I I never thought about that. I never ever thought from the perspective of Harwitz and this and what are you 38 years old? >> Yeah, Bali, I I'm just saying Bali, I know we do next time if we were to do this podcast again, I would just have this cheer a little bit to this angle, but it's right now. No, no, no. I don't want to mess things. >> Why regret it later that you didn't do it? Do it now. No, no. Cuz >> do it. Just do it. >> I can do it. >> Yeah. >> Oh, beautiful. Thank you. What? Okay. Better. I don't. >> By the way, the idea of coming back on the podcast already happened >> with a guest who performs. His numbers are just through the roof. And my advertisers are like, is he coming on again? >> So, if the numbers are good, you're coming back. >> Okay, great. >> Chris Bman's been here three times. And let me tell you something, he'll be back again. He's good. >> So, what's your question that he has two sides of family? >> How do you combine this? So, how do you combine? >> Hold on. The Harits is our singer. Uncle Zman. >> Harits is okay. Okay. Okay. Am I wrong? >> Zman is an unbelievable Baltilla. >> Okay. >> Zman is a good singer. The Harits, my other cousin, right? Benmoly is from the Saxs part of the family from his mother's side of the family. Salman is from Zman. Harits are not musical. >> Really? >> No, they're not musical. Sorry. You're not musical. >> They're not They're not musical. The Harites. They're not. I'll tell you why. I hate I'll tell you why. It's not credit. You don't get like okay they're not musical I know what musical is they're not musical they don't think along musical lines next they're great people what you did is you took the person now bowskis are musical are there exceptions in the bowkis that are not musical yes but every buffski is musical and then there are exceptions so no bosski got musical through their mother they only got it from their papa and the harwit's accidentally zman and bar from their mother's acts Okay, go. >> Yeah. So, >> you summed it up. You summed it up well. >> Yes. >> How do I compose a song? What do I have to do? >> Next. Don't compose the song. >> I want to compose the song. >> Why? Okay. So, compose a song. You might take a hit. If you make a million dollar, sing it. Pay a couple of singers to sing it. >> Oh, you pay the singers. >> What? >> What about Do you like any of songs? >> Why Rakets? Why ring? >> Because he's interesting composer business. >> He's actually not his song. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Okay. It's if you heard of it, you know what's if you heard of the song that means he knows that right, >> right? >> Cuz if you didn't hear the song because other billionaires that also write songs that you didn't hear. So I'm saying it doesn't mean that it's a good No. No. No. Of course it made it. I'm saying it may you can't you again you can't buy a guy in Schult sing it. >> You're saying there are rich people who who >> pay people to sing their songs. >> I'm sure. >> I just you never hear. >> I don't even know about it. Do you know about it? I don't. >> So >> Oh. Oh. Oh, you're saying if they put out as an album. I don't even think they >> like they walk around say, "I'll pay you 20 grand. You sing my song." I'm sure that happens. >> I'm sure. Yeah. But you never hear it. >> Huh? >> You never hear it. It's like whatever. You know, like when they make a live monk, you never hear about it. So, it's whatever. It's all good. I I don't want to talk to bad about them because they might hire me. >> But the cool thing about music is that >> they might hire me. I don't want to lose them clients. They're my bread and butter. So, sorry. >> Oh, until they lose it, I won't care. Okay. When I was a teenager, I thought like everybody else, you know, >> fire me like everybody like everybody else like I could also be a cousin. So I'm on the phone screaming and yelling. So my mother I told I said this story my mother said and my mother was so always saying you're the BASKET YOU'RE BASKZ YOU'RE NOT AND YOU CAN'T SING. CALL BACK. >> A good mother. >> She called back. She I called back the and I said I'll give out theim. I'll give out the I'll help out. Give me a plane ticket. Whatever. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Or I got jobs where I told the guy I have a horrible voice. My mother even said it. But if you need a could just sing turn the pages. >> He needed company and he good company. He was a like it was a good front and that's what I started doing. I would be like the back of So now your mother Allah you lost your you lost your father and your mother. >> Stop right there. No, but go ahead. I'll explain to you why I lost. Not a Okay. Okay. A yasim by definition is a person that loses his parents under the age of 20. I lost my mother under the age of 20. 19. So for one, not even 19. I was 20 something years. I was 20. Yeah. Never. Oh, no. No. No. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Under 25 years old. If you're married and you're 20, you're not a yum. So I'm sorry. You can't go and cry. Go to therapy. We can't cry. Can't cry. Can't get that moola from the organizations. Second of all, so my father passed away. So I'm married with six kids. So I'm not a yum. Okay. I would love to say I love my papa around but ain't no yum. Second of all, I lost my mother Taka under 25. So yum. But I got engaged a year later. Oh, he's yum. >> So one year you had the discount code. That you know that that you know that vibe that vibe still very tragic to lose both of your parents and you're still very young. How has it affected you and your music career? Well, this is a part of the conversation that's thinks it's a different thing. >> I recall actually now. Okay. What? My mother. Okay. First of all, okay, I want to tell you something. >> Tell us about your mother and father. >> I don't know. But we remember something else. Okay. I'll talk to about my mother and father. Mother's very very good person. First of all, I love what your mother did. She told you that you're not good. Very, very, very healthy. It's so >> 2026. >> It's just not only that. Okay. Can I just before I go to my kid comes home from school, >> daddy? I want to be a singer. Why do you want to be a singer? He's not musical. He's not I know musical kids. I have two musical kids. They're singing since they're 6 months. This kid ain't singing since he's 6 months. The kid's playing Nintendo. He's not a musical kid. He likes money. Okay. No, no. I'm saying money is his front. He thinks business. It's not. I told I don't want to say his name. I'm like, uh, my mor told me he taught such a beautiful voice. You also have a beautiful voice. I told him, "Please don't do that. Don't do that." I I said, "Listen, I love you very much, but you're not a good singer." And it's not a bad thing. You're not supposed to be a singer. I'm not supposed to go to You don't come me and I don't come you. Like, we're going to be in this together, okay? We're going to play bull. But don't come a singer. Not because it gets to your head or industry. You're just not a singer. So, if you're not a singer, don't come a singer. So, thank God your mother saved the industry from one other person that thinks they're a singer because it's really annoying. It's like these annoying people that come in and get God. Damn it. It's just >> I happen to have a terrible voice. I'm just saying it's not it's not a >> So, you're saying so your mother but your mother told you that you are a good singer. She didn't. So, where did your career Thank God all >> When did your music career start? >> Maybe she should have complimented me. I'm thinking about that. What would have done differently if she complimented me? I probably would have been a little bit more narcissistic confident. confident clap. You know what we did? >> You didn't comment your your your your music. >> No. What age do you start performing? >> Always. >> And she didn't say, "Oh my god, I heard you at the bar mitzvah." Which made me so not into that stuff. So much more real. She's not like a >> real people don't compliment. >> I had one interaction with your mother and my wife. >> They're like real person. Oh, great singer. >> You don't appreciate compliments. >> Of course, I appreciate compliments. >> Okay. So, what do you think is not real? >> Okay. How do I put it? Okay. Okay. One second. One sec. I'm just trying to process it. >> Okay. >> So, what what did she do that would encourage me? I don't know. I don't know. She was great, but I'm saying I don't know. We didn't talk like I wasn't like a singer by her. I wasn't like her little singer. Like wasn't like a little singer. sound come to zer like no zinger over here like go sing if you can sing I don't know I don't know guys I don't want to go there >> so what's your mother's thing next and your father he encouraged musical career >> okay so my father yes okay my father to me and my father's personal because okay I'll tell you what it is musical musicality I think is like I think for me in a way way it's generational so I have my great-grandfather which is this you know about filla >> Alman >> no no no Zman lost his voice so that's a pretty traumatic thing actually so my great-grandfather's Very good. My great-grandfa My grandfather ripped his vocal cords when he was 12 because he's a carina. So they do really loud and he dabbed very loud and vocal cords. Yeah. Maybe laryngitis. They never you know the kids that talk very horse but he was like chronically that way. So he spoke like this. So okay. So the music >> he was a contractor. No >> very talented guy. Diamond cutter was in the middle of inventing actually a diamond cutting machine in the 1960s. He was working on in his attict for many many months. >> Was never did contracting in 770. >> Okay. He died because he was a guy. Okay. My happened to be a very very successful guy business-wise. He just always sold it like right before it went out. Okay. So, just just No, no, no. He is the one that gave all the permits to um Herzog and um Kadm and all those when they came in 1948. He gave them >> he knew working permits and stuff. >> Working permits, all that. Like he hooked them up like he he had Zman's wines whatever it was big his cousin. >> Oh, he did wines also. >> He was doing wines before that. He's the one that's so he was the initial wines. He was very very big in the lower east side and he started and then his cousin I think was during um counterfeit what's probition prohibition yeah and he started taxes blah blah blah but I said he left it then he went to Sheamus business okay it's it's interesting story next um my mother >> father and your career what was it what was the story with him in your musical career >> okay oh I forgot my uncle so I have to take okay so I see it's a generational thing so great-grandfather grandfather loses voice then comes my uncle insane talented. Okay. Not like I have an uncle that's a cousin and he's like, >> "No, he could be on Broadway." >> Lethal, lethal, lethal. Good. Shia Mendus wanted to sign him up, but you know what I mean? He goes artist, >> but there's always an issue with real with artists and and actually showing up. You told me there's certain very famous singers that never show up on time. >> So, there's a certain like I always say that the most successful people are borderline crazy and borderline normal. They're just crazy enough to be creative and getting it done and it just don't actually show up. >> Okay. I think honestly I think it's a I think it's a generational thing. I think it's a masle thing also. I think it's a masal it's predestined. I think there's a predestined I don't think there's so much choices in these matters. >> I didn't say choice >> the way it it shakes out. Yeah. >> If someone's creative enough but he's so creative doesn't care anything about the customer, right? Because you have two extreme artists. Some artists they all care about the customer and they go to every of the customer. There's a singer in every wedding and a flying >> ew ew. You're grossing me out. You're grossing me out and they do every scar me. Stop scaring me. >> Right. They're so customer focused, right? Cuz you're talking in the business world. >> Nasty. That is like the most horrible disgusting thing. They go to every a client every stop it everyone. One thing in the podcast, stop kissing your customers to they don't need it and stop doing it. Hashem gives you your money, not your stinking client that's going to go broke potentially. Stop. >> Well, after spending with you, yeah, they go broke. But >> if they hire you every day for 20 grand, you're going to go broke. >> Shut up. >> But then you have the artist. >> Then you have the artists that are totally >> I totally do. If someone's giving me 20 grand, they'll go every single one of the singles, by the way. Just by the way. But at the same time, I will be like, yuck. Next, continue. >> In the other extreme, we have artists who zero care about their client. They'll they'll come to an event. They'll sing opera and they're hired to sing carv and autist. That's autistic. >> It's autistic. It's not like artist. Everyone says, "Oh, they're an artist." No, they're autistic. That's autistic. I'm sorry. >> You're saying it's not normal. >> Yeah, because an artist should tune in. What do you mean? If your instincts is music, you you feel the vibe. You're like, "Oh, no. These guys don't want opera." If you're nuts enough to think that they want opera, you're off the wall. You also have to be very artistic. And everyone says, "Neb, he didn't make it. He's such an artist." No, he's not normal. He's not normal. You know, I have a certain artist in mind. I don't want to say his name, >> and he makes amazing paintings, >> but he refuses to make Jewish art. I said, "Why?" He's like, "Oh, I don't feel like it. I don't feel like it." >> He told me he wants to exhibit at FFH. He said, "Oh, he didn't like the price. He's weird about it." >> Oh my god. >> But he's so talented. He was so He was begging you, begging you for an hour. He couldn't get off the phone. He wanted you to hook him up with a $12 an hour because he refused. >> You're like, "I'LL GIVE YOU $500. I'LL GIVE YOU $1,000 TO RI1." OKAY. OKAY. And he's so talented and he's working clean cuz he refuses to make a painting that clients want, which is my category. Clappy is Jewish art. He's a beautiful artist painting for sale for 30 $3500. Ziggler Ziggler artist, great artist. >> Very, very nice. >> 35 is available through the podcast admin clappyrank.com. But my point is this particular artist paints what people want. Okay. This artist that me and Clap you know Mutual is so talented but he refuses to make Jewish art and he >> okay fine I forgot to say something. >> So what do you say about I forgot to say so I just said autistic but it's not true because you see Mark Zuckerberg is autistic and and and and Jeff and not Jeff Bezos he's not autistic. Jeff Bezos Elon Musk is >> I don't know if he's autistic but I think he's just a big genius and that's it. >> Autistic very he has a billion dollars and he can do whatever the hell he wants. That's whatever. Whatever. He's autistic. I don't think so. But >> the other thing, they don't even quote autism anymore. It's a spectrum because there's millions of versions of this. >> Yeah. Yes. Okay. Mark Zuckerberg is autistic. So, he made a billion dollars. Anybody's autistic could make a billion dollars. It's not the music. I'm saying I hate when people blame the art. It's not the art. It happens to be the guy has off character. He's also an angry person. He's a miserable man. He happens to be very artistic. Therefore, he didn't make it because of his music. No, he didn't make it because he's a miserable person. Why? Because he never told you that he's miserable. You don't have to even be told that he's miserable. Really, he's a miserable person. You feel the energy. You don't want to hire him. This guy doesn't want to paint pictures. I get it. I'll be honest. I get it. Well, he doesn't want to do it because Okay, you walked over to him. He has a fantasy. He's going to be like making this big pictures, you know, Picasso pictures of Manhattan. And you tell him. No. Where is this? >> At the Met. >> At the Met. You met him? >> No. No. I met him in business. Our business. >> He's But you said, "What the hotel program?" >> Boy, FH getting shout outs. >> Well, yeah. FH is gonna get a lot of shout outs because they could give you money for advertisement retroactively. Exactly. It's totally fine. >> You can build them and it's a nice thing if they do it. Okay. So the next thing is so um >> so artists who don't want to do what the customers want. >> So I I get it. Okay. Fine. So they're okay. So I I went through that stage pickle and guess what? You know what I realized? I'm just not selling songs to anybody. So I didn't say I'm now going to conform. I'm not doing it. So I used to like be on it or not off it. So imagine the guy told you no. And but he also didn't ask you for then he would be okay with it. Right? Problem is he asked for that's the issue. The problem is not that they didn't want to sell the art. The problem is they asked for you didn't answer. What does your father or what was your father's answer to your career or influence or encouragement? >> My father wanted me to succeed big time. It's happening. It's happening. Papa >> patience >> Moshi and I were on the car before and I said do you remember that story um and I want to hear the story for the record in the room in 770 it's like the library in >> there's a gorgeous iron kesh my father's the cipher in 770 so he used to go there and open it up and take out terror and do his thing whatever >> what's the story do with your >> your father built that kesh what's the what's the story >> I don't know exactly the story because I heard this like like it's like a very it's like a story I used to discuss with my father when I 15 like it's not that era but something to do with they had someone um it's it wasn't a safer it was a safer terra or for >> aron kesh >> was an aron kesh but not for the safety >> I think for the safer >> it's not for the I don't know my father built it and father was very okay my father was very nisp about the story he built it and someone said built it someone told that iron built it so he said who aron bilovski and my father was so touched and I'll be honest you I I really like the fact that my father was touched but I don't really get the big story lab is so big then so I never coped the whole thing like okay I I know it's very nice that the knew my father's name but how many people were in lab there's more to the story that ever called him in and gave him money it was a whole story >> my I think we're talking about my had an interesting relationship with the >> your father built the country >> never came into the's room like that money >> he got money for it there was okay so you don't you know he got the tak building the bricks you know that Nice. Do you enjoy performing at weddings or you do it cuz you're getting paid? >> Okay, so very good question. So I used to Okay, so wedding Okay, lately it's funny. So my careers change over time. People don't realize they evolve. You change as a person like in 10 years from now it's very shy. you're going to be like interested on a different vibe like you it's and when people I think are getting burnt out when you see you know you see somebody that's like still wearing pants that like in in the 2010 it's like still very tight around like a certain area and it's like okay dude it's 2026 time to update the pants so I think with character traits also people marry like certain things that they have like I'm certain way okay and then you could divorce it like bye-bye so I used to not like performing atas not didn't like it. It was awkward. I don't know what it was. I don't know what it was. I think it was a whatever there there was my first CD when I worked on my first CD which was a freaking miracle of my first album. First album I produced with Idle Wariger. you girl is a top industry producer and he only produces father stuff and Ellie Lashinsky was a top mixer and they they put together my album and I became so like um artistic with this album because it was an artistic experience. 80 hours every track. It was beautiful. >> 80 hours every track. What does that mean? >> It was insane amount of hours I put into the album. The album's okay. First of all, okay, I'm not, by the way, truthfully, I am not like my album, the first album >> is one of the best albums in Jewish music that ever came out. >> No, no, no, no. It's not, it's not a question called anybody. I still get new followers from it. It's over 10 years old. I still get new fans from it. I have an extra neighbor upstate that walked over to me that just discovered it 6 months. >> Which songs are the hits? >> All of them. Every single Okay. remind our audience to songs. Give me >> What do you mean? What do you mean? Okay. I This What do you mean a hit? One second. What do you mean by hit? Yeah. Because if Okay, fine. So, people listen to this podcast in 2028 and this song is a big hit then. And not from a fantasy perspective. Not then. Then they discover then they discover because a lot of guys in Williamsburg and Lakewood and now have big big fan bases. I have a big fan base out there. So, I don't have my songs. The nature of my songs right now are they never took off the way the conventional way. By the way, nobody's songs took off conventionally. >> Anybody that's sensational doesn't take off conventionally, please. Did it take off like it's the same same song, same shape, same thing. It's hot. It came out October 7. It's one It's like weather. It's like this this stream of light that comes from nowhere. Then comes a different tina. The mainstream hits. If you want to get into the mainstream hits. >> Yeah. How do you qualify hit? >> You just qualified it. Both of those songs that you mentioned are like my favorite songs in the world. And the one from Zush. So, everybody knows those are hits. >> Everybody knows Coke is a hit. McDonald's is a hit. >> Let's quantify it. Quantify it. How do you quantify it? >> YouTube views is a hit. McDonald's. I don't think there's no argument. What's good? >> No. Let's quantify tastes good. >> One second. One second. One sec. Okay, fine. Are you ready? Are you ready for this though? Okay, fine. Let's quantify YouTube views. >> Okay, you ready? No, no, no, no, no. Because it doesn't work that way. Let me explain to you something. >> Okay, I'm going to talk from dopamine. Let's talk about dopamine perspective. Quantify no >> emotions. You can't quantify. >> He's an artist. Let him say what you want. >> Let me explain to you something. If I listen to a certain song, and I'm not talking about any BS of watching it on a video of a crowd's taking out their phone and therefore I fell for the hawk and there's a mommy crying over there and therefore I fall in love with the song and it's right after October 7th. Take all that junk out. Take the junk out. You're listening to real listen to a song. No, please. That's propaganda. You know who did that? Gobles. It's nothing. It's nothing. That's nothing. It's just it's temporary. After World War II, the guy looked like a Hitler looks normal after 1950s. When you watch him, we say, "By the way, I like what he's saying." He has a good point. He's a mist. But what made him popular? No. So, by the way, most dictatorships and wacky wars are made by hawks. They're not really inspiring people. They're not Churchill, good guy. Okay, the speeches are sound nuts because I don't understand what he's saying. But I'm saying you look at his character. Look at his personality. 80 years later or 90s, 300 years later, you'll read what he wrote while still it's real without the propaganda. You read his speech, you'll be like, "Whoa, this guy had a set of You read Hitler's speech. Looks like Mushina. It looks like Tucker Carlson. There's no sh It's nothing to do." So, it's it's okay. So, I don't like the propaganda. You're saying timeless. Timeless. No, but I'm saying objectively, take out all the fluff. If I would listen to this song right now, I would wake up and I would say this song is taking me somewhere and nobody and then I walk over to that guy and he says, "Bolly, I heard that too and it took me somewhere." Then you're talking about it. If I finally I saw him singing the song, huh? I singing the song and >> But you know, Hold on. Are there any hits from your first album? The best album in the world. >> The best. >> Would you say the best album in the world? >> One of the best albums of Jewish music. >> What does best mean? How do you call that? >> One second. I'll explain it to you in a second. One of the best. Not. By the way, again, I am not It's just a fact. >> Yeah. How do you quantify best? >> It's a fact. >> Some people argue the second. I also have a >> How do you quantify the best? The second one's better. >> How do you quantify the best? >> But the first one has more fights, so it's good. Um, well, >> how do you quantify the best? >> Okay. So, okay. So, again, so you have a guy a Williamsburg. Okay. Williamsburg. >> You were trying to get to one point for 10 minutes. Get to the point. >> So, he gets a bark and he he he doesn't know about Barom. Doesn't doesn't know about Barksh. Doesn't think about Barksh. Bark. never ever walked over to him and told him an extra nice long good chabas. Okay, he's a wealthy guy, but never hit him up. Rosham never said, "By the way, hi, how are you? Hello." I never did that. And then, you know, he's just listening and he forgot about his money for 5 seconds and he happens to come by my CD accidentally because Hashem dropped the CD in his possession. Who says CDs? >> One second. One second. Whatever. Whatever it is. And he plays a CD. >> I like this guy. Next song. Oh, I like this guy. Hi. Are you available for Sima? Yeah. Uh, okay. This is pretty random. What's up? Uh, what's your name? Yeah, I heard you. Yeah, I just heard your CD. Are you available? Not. What do you charge? Are you available? Okay. So, I just got somebody. Okay. No propaganda. Propaganda free. This guy is a fan. Hook, line, and sinker. That's it. Because we connected. My music connected with him. We're vibing this out. Then you get 55 people, 100 people, 200 people. So let's say you have 5,000 of those people. Okay, 5,000. Then you take another guy that has 30,000 listeners because his song has the same beat that goes after the other beat. So therefore, when it's a Spotify algorithm and everyone leaves the song, but everyone forgets about it 2 years later. Mean to say once the propaganda runs out, he doesn't have a song anymore. So I don't look at music that way. So 100% Lacy is a sensational song. I would argue though, by the way, with Zusha being as good as he is, and I'm not saying he's not, I would say that 50% of the listens are hack also, it's not that the other 50, I mean to say if he has 5 million hits, 2 and a2 million are legit. The other two and a half million ain't real fans. You know why? Because the next day they like Isharibo and then you say, one second, how the heck do you like and the next day like Zusha? If you're British, I put it this way. If I loved MBD, I'm not liking Shimy D the next day. Do you get what I'm saying? I It's like, WHOA, WHERE DID THAT come from? You got You know, so people that like love every single singer, like every single singer, what they tell me is that they got the milk in the main section of Empire Kosher. It's a send them cash. I would love to be in the mainstream of kosher market. Just made up a such a store. Okay. >> Play sounds such a bad name. Kosher market. >> Big green sign. Big refrigerator. Doesn't doesn't have a feel. Okay. The worker is miserable. Plays plays Candy Crush. You walk in there. He's not He's annoyed that you walked in. >> I wanted to tell you something. We went to a We went to a grocery store yesterday out of the blue. We were in Patterson, New Jersey. I was starving. I heard there's a lot. >> We heard there's a lot of kosher food in PA sounds like a hot day. >> I went to a grocery store in PA. I go to a million grocery stores. There was something about that grocery store. It >> was really nice. >> It was gorgeous. They built They built it, right? Grocery stores. I would go out of my way to shop in that grocery store. >> 40 foot ceilings. Everything was picture perfect. >> Yeah, I love the Okay, by the way. Oh. Oh, I forgot. Can we talk about other music? By the other music. This music is not about connection. >> So, you're saying you have to be a real fan to have someone to hire you at their Simha? >> No, I didn't say that. I'm just saying I don't quantify by hit because if I have 40,000 legitimate listeners versus a guy that has 60,000 listeners because because he got onto playlist. I don't consider that quantity and I'll show you why. Look at whatever. I don't want to talk about it. But you open up the hood and you it's it comes from a monetary standpoint. You can see it in fan base. You can see connections. You could you could just tell you could tell. And it's just annoying. It's just annoying. And by the way, you know what I mean? Okay, I'll be honest. Mark Ray, you know, men are from Mars, women from Venus. Remember that popular book 19 2012? Everybody, everybody read it than Kylo men speak Mars, women speak Venus. Okay, never Jordan Peterson. Who's better? >> Mark Ray or Jordan Peterson. Who's >> right now? Jordan. >> Not right now. Jordan Peterson is Jordan Peterson. Mark Ray is whatever. A guy that wrote a hit on Reader Digest. He made it to Reader Digest before. Oprah Winfrey psychology. So what's the difference? One is a different quality. It's a whole different quality. So I'm I'm not saying that I'm great quality, but my album is definitely very very good quality. >> I asked Moi yesterday which was your famous song that everybody knows that you composed. What was your favorite? >> That was your big song. >> Also was very very How does the tune go? >> So you know what's funny? Like so you're like that song is not big. Okay. This song's very very big in Israel. And not only that, you know what's very interesting? Last year we were discussing collaboration. I had a track I was going to put out and guess who was potentially going to sing on it? Guess who? >> MBD. >> No, think up. Even though MBD is up. >> Yeah. Now, why why would Now he didn't do it by the end? Because what have you he didn't do it? You know, you know his team said the first thing when they asked about the artist said, "Yeah, how does he know me?" He listens to Hini. So, he's listening to the song. He likes it. I didn't have to walk over to Tisha and say, "But Chavez, we never met." And guess what, brother? I don't think we're ever going to really have deep conversations because he speaks Hebrew and I speak English. And therefore, there's a big issue right over there. So that's just connection. So my point is it doesn't work that way. It doesn't. And Zusha took off because he wasn't working on that frequency. So everyone says, "What the heck happened? All of a sudden, Zusha took off." No, no, no. Zusha didn't all of a sudden take off. 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Everything handmade, beautiful leather. It's gift boxes, full bottles, small bottles. >> You see how it mixes well with his wife does have part at home. You bring them. Also the sponsor to this clappy is sponsoring this year's kumitz. >> The sukumits >> the Frank brothers with clappy are having a kumit suka next door to raashkin every night at what's the hours >> 10 to1 I think >> 10 to oneo choir. >> Yeah I know I'm so sorry I forgot about that angle from you. I I didn't speak to >> I hope you invite bar to sing at bar's probably booked up every night at sukus. >> If he's not booked yet he's going to be booked after the show. He works Hashem. >> You have any bookings? Okay. >> Yeah. >> How many? >> Okay. Okay. So, right now I could eat up all my bookings if I want. But beauty, but I don't want to travel yet to know. So, I committed. >> So, good. >> But the other two, it's like a little bit. Can >> you tell us where you're two confirmed? >> Is it private or public event? >> So, okay. Two of them is up for negotiation. And I I don't want to go into detail because because okay by the end of the day one of them one of them are a private event and the other two are public but it's like I'm a little bit middle of like okay I'm middle of like playing myself up so I'm not going to you know >> my whole life has one question how many zels came through >> by the way you're right >> is there a zel or no zel they're coming on they're not coming on THEY'RE >> NEGOTIATING FOR >> it's not negoti it's whatever it's you know I have a feeling Clappy after this show you >> I'm playing a fine fiddle over here. Barak will be getting booked for comedy >> comedy >> and or music. I'm just after the show after >> I told I stop by. I was the middle of telling you by the way Kate. So >> if it's a generational thing who did I take over my father's not a singer, right? My father was beautiful singer but there's no office. So I have to build the Buffski office for music. Okay. So I told this to Benny by the way. I told this to Benny Ellie Marcus. They they they're you know they're coming in Afan Freed's office. Right. So now he opens up three more desks. Freed's office looks males. You know what I mean? He has 20 albums. By the way, every one of their successes is individually made. Am saying, I hate those people that say, "Hey, the only reason why he made it is because of his uncle." Oh, no, he didn't. Okay. They made it individually because they made it. Happens to be an uncle's part of the legacy. It's a part of the story. Because you know, >> I have to I have to I have to let this off my chest. Benny Benny worked so hard. Benny worked so hard. I spent pay with him this this year. The second Yamtiff was over, he did a concert for Pesak where we were. >> Right after the concert had to go to the airport and he came back of Yamiff. The guy works his nama out. >> He works it and Ellie Marcus his cousin he works his out and with that they're amazing spouses and fathers and friends and contributors to their give their life to Glorious. I don't care if they make a hundred million. They're doing Shay. >> They're doing Shmayim and they give it their all. There's no free rides over here. >> Yeah, there's no free rides. And not only that, I'm afraid also very very a very hard these people work hard like like I >> Not only that, Benny has a music podcast now. >> Yeah. And not only that, did you watch it? The thing is the reason why people the reason why people don't cop it is because they're seeing them on stage, but that's their business. It's like that's where they're supposed to be showing themselves in a good light. So yeah, so easy. Very nice. So easy. If you make a circle, so easy. >> The elephant. >> At that point, people think like the podcast just happens. If if people knew the stress and the back and forth, the yelling. I mean, how much yelling is going to what happened before you came on >> the guy? There was A LOT OF YELLING. I WANTED TO apologize and I thought about nothing to apologize about. So, >> every podcast they make, we make it sound look so easy. Easy street. But till Baron got to this seat was not roses. That's all I can say. >> AK wasn't so thorny either. It was whatever mood disorders. That's all. >> Can we talk about PC deals? Our favorite show. >> I I'm push I was thinking about it today in the people think I live a life of vacations. We work very hard, but we also have to go. I was sitting in the Schvitz today. >> Every time we talk about an advertisement, I take out this >> because I'm like, "Okay, I was sitting in the today and I was thinking about how much I love PZ deals and how they save Claw Israel so much money." >> My mother and father used to take us on. >> Did you not say Claw Israel? >> Yeah. >> Just say how they save people money. >> Yeah. >> Claw Islam's coming up in two weeks. Who was it? >> Suckers. >> My parents used to take us to like a toy store on Kamoid or like a big department store and they used to give us each like a budget like $50 $100 >> Toys R Us. >> But we were limited. We were limited to that one store. I'm thinking of a new thing for Kamoid. >> You give each kid $100 or $50. You open up a big screen or if you like your TV like you connect it to your computer, you know, you mirrorcast it and you say you could spend $100 as a gift and we're going to choose your gift together and you go on PZ deals and you'll get the best spent gift of your life because you're going to have beauty, you're going to have electronics, you're going to have music, you're going to have bed baths, we can have like, you know, robes and make it into a adventure of how your kids can spend your money only using it on PZ deals to get the best deal in the By the way, I'm want to give a by the P deal should make a lot of money this month. >> And everyone else should make a lot of money and everyone should buy their KIDS A LOT of toys this and discover that it wasn't that cool. Go ahead, >> K. You talking about the free trip. >> But no, but everyone should really be have a beautiful, beautiful Yamite trip we went to yesterday. >> Yesterday we were in Patterson and like a block away from the factory, you pull up to this Niagara Falls Junior. There's Niagara Falls. You have to drive 10 hours. All the kids have to bre up twice stay in a motel six you know and then turn around and after whatever and sakal you're standing at a waterfall >> by the way >> sakal it's a waterfall >> so true >> mishi found this waterfall in Patterson it's the water is pouring sish braa it's like a national park there was a table from the parks department with nobody manning it was just sitting there falls >> yeah p what's it called >> I think it's I don't patter something >> I put it on my status 20 30 people I don't want to exaggerate over 20 people messaged Where is this place? I'm going there. >> It's like 20 minutes from Payic. So, you could eat in P restaurant, the pizza and everything. >> The kids to this place are going to become infested. People are going to be coming there like we we should get an award. >> But it's a beautiful waterfall. >> Make it into an adventure. >> Wheels to lease. How are you going to get to the waterfall? >> How well you going to go on your trip? You need to drive a car. You call We're both out of the business. You call my friends at wheels to lease. Wheels to lease has been around 40 years. Honest delight. They're servicing Saul. >> S who we met somebody this week. HE SAYS MY GRANDFATHER GOT FROM WHEELS to east my father got from wheels to east. I get from wheels to east and my children are going to go to wheels to do dyus. They know the cars. They get you the best deals. And by the way, you wake up of Russia. Because >> you remember erof pes the guy called two days and he called Saul and he got him out of his lease and he got him a new one and he said it was delivered 6 7 o'clock in the morning and he was able to drive PES where he wanted to go and the guy was in Connecticut not in Crown Heights they will get you the car before Rashashana and this show is airing Thursday I bet you if you want they call them on Thursday Friday they can have the car in your driveway the latest and you'll have all your trips with wheels to lease what do you do when you go to an event and they look like that you just did like people sleeping like what do you do? You get do you get deterred? You get like you try to wake up to crowd you try to scream louder. You like what do you what's some tricks? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So um you go into the >> like kumzits that's the worst. No. >> Okay. So comes by the way >> hardest. Tell us dead energy sometimes. B and you have to do one ba song after the other ba song. Thank god. I don't know. I can't explain it. So, thank God I I don't really marry the crowd's energy anymore. I determine what it's going to be. Otherwise, I I can't I can't go down. Like, if the crowd is very very like, for example, let's say everyone ate, okay, everyone's at hotel program, they eat. >> They eat >> eat not like 8,000 calories, like 75% carbs, baby. Carbs, baby. And then they're like, you know, lethargic. And now I have to get them out of their lethargia. >> Lethargia. >> Now, you think at is going to work with that? because it ain't working. >> No, I don't do that. >> Who knew is that? I love it. >> Kananaran Benari. When did that become so popular? >> I I don't know. It came very very popular. >> Is that timeless or it's out? What's your prediction of that? It's out. >> It's going to be out already. >> Yeah, it's going to be out. >> And how long? 6 months, 12 months? >> I don't know, but it's out. >> I still my opinion. That's my opinion. >> What does that mean? From my for my only view, I don't think it's a real song. >> A camp did a cover war with that song. >> But but just my opinion, by the way, it might be totally big. I don't >> A camp did a cover war. One of these one of these songs there was hundreds of kids holding the pages and doing it. They were doing it that it tore my sh cuz I could see a huge video that I'll still be annoyed at it. But I I understand. I get it. By the way, but I want to just tell you, by the way, while I'm trashing that, by the way, which is no right for me to be doing, I want to tell you that there was a song that someone put out that's corny beyondish. Every day I'm losing my mind 100. And I know I couldn't stand the song after October 7th. Every day I'm losing my mind. I don't want to hear losing my mind. I heard this song two days ago. That's a good song. So sometimes I'm realizing that I hate the song. Not because it's a bad song. I'm hating it because it's too it's sometimes like too pushed in your face. So maybe everyone has to stop pushing the content so much. Maybe it'll get even more people. I just feel that like there's too much sometime. You know what I mean? >> You don't like being sold to basically >> don't be sold not music. It's just like let it vibe in. Just let it go. It's going to go. It's going to go. If like you're a good speaker, imagine you have to like tell her I'm a really good speaker. I'm a really good speaker. Like shut up. Just speak and we'll figure it out. Like, well, you have me I need to know about it by the time you're 20. Like, you have until like 90 to figure it. I don't know. >> So, you don't you don't really believe in marketing and music. It sounds like >> I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. >> Russell, you ever sing at H concert? >> No, not yet. >> Why not? >> Well, they didn't call me. >> Why not? If you have the best albums in the world, like what are they missing? Is isn't a H? >> That's probably such a good question. First of all, is it is it is H concert considered like the end mobile or like sukus Israel's like what's considered in the Jewish music world? Okay. So, first of all, what's the Super Bowl? I want to tell you half concert is the Super Bowl Jewish Super Bowl. >> Anybody that says it's not, I will argue till death. >> Fine, fine. So, first of all, I'm going to be on I'm going to be on ask. >> You will? Why don't we call our friends there? >> I don't do me no. Don't you call freaking call your friends to go there. I want to tell you I want to tell you about it. I want to tell you, don't itchy nobody. I don't need Itchy. Itchy might not even be gay out the H in a year from now. >> It's the guy. >> Who's itchy? >> The guy. He's H >> part of the family. >> Okay. Whoops. So sorry. Itchy. Never mind. He is part of H. Whatever. H may not be at a concert next year. I don't know. I'm not I'm not questioning. >> By the way, no. No. By the way, by the way, just for the record, >> I don't know when we're going to start. I'm on the marketing team for the H concert. I don't know if they giving me the package in a week. I should start advertising it in two weeks. This is going to be the biggest H concert in the history of the world. It's the 40th anniversary. This is hash 40 this year. >> Um, so >> but like Israel sukus is considered like prime time, right? Israel sukus. All the top guys. >> Australia. >> There's some unspoken >> unspoken >> like you're speak if you're singing at I don't know Dear show maybe parade my friends. I did that twice. >> We're on Parkway. >> Okay. Yeah. But I have to say no. The park. >> What? >> No. The park. >> The park. >> Oh, at the park. >> Cuz like it's like not the job. You got the job like in local high school. >> Would you mind being just a great famous composer or you want to be a singer too? >> I am a great singer. >> I'm just saying no. Like I am >> famous. 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We should be good to each other. Hi. To get your business. >> We don't do that. >> You think you you have to deserve it and earn it. >> I'm not doing it. I am not doing it. They're not gods. Nobody is a god. Hask. Oh. Oh. Oh. Hell. Oh my god. What happened to Oh, right. Okay. So, we're going to moving on. Yeah. >> He's saying there's a new there's a new it it platform. >> I don't. Not only that, like let's say take like now the next thing is if you want to be a really big singer, you got to get a Madison Square Garden. >> MSG, right? >> Okay. But I never had a dream of going to MSG. So, why the heck should I go on MSG now? because that's the new established thing. Maybe maybe just proposing maybe my living room live video will go viral on Tik Tok and it's supposed to have 7 trillion hits and China is supposed to take baron by storm and then everyone's going to say did he yet get to China on Tik Tok? Oh, okay. So now you're going to go to >> it's not my horse. It's not my horse. I'm not saying Hask is not my horse, but I'm saying like I have my horse and if like the camera is going to go on it and it's going to feature me with my horse, then I'm going to go I am not going off my horse and asking somebody else for their horse. No, no, no, no, no. Don't want somebody else's horse. Don't want somebody else's wife. Don't want anybody else's any anything. I don't want anybody else's money. I want to be rich with my cash. Thank you. my money, my business, my relationship with God, not kissing anyone's horse. >> And you know, in 2026, I just they just announced yesterday, I think, one of these big late night shows shutting it down. All these like all these platforms, all these platforms, they're all shutting down. It's all everyone's attention is now in podcast and micro niche like I'm saying it's like >> so the it things are not so much more the it used to be. >> Okay, so I'll tell you the thing. So I I came into the industry like let's say what >> also bro now with the Spotify yeah go ahead >> with Spotify and all these things and algorithms they are the decision makers of who the hits are. >> They're not the decision makers. God is the decision maker. >> No but they they respond to what people like automatically. >> Yeah. Could be like this past week's podcast. Right. >> By I want to just say something. We are on Instagram. You have a lot of We both have a lot of Instagram followers and this idea that Instagram decides who's the winners, who's the losers, who's not, whatever. They literally put you in a box on how to create content. And I didn't let it happen. Today, I loaded a video. >> We loaded a video. We both we collaborated on a video today. It was 11 minutes. >> Mhm. >> And Instagram puts a notification. Mr. Clappy channel. I'm just letting you know that because you're over three minutes, if you post this video, we will not promote this video to anybody. >> Do you still want to post this video? And I wrote, "Yeah, because I created this video. We created this video together. And I want my followers to have the opportunity to do it." So, I feel like it's going to get zero. It's going to get zero views. I don't know yet, but I an hour later I checked it at 600 views. 600. It's not bad. There's a lot of people 600 views. I mean, some of our videos get millions of views. My nuda is is that I also don't like the algorithm stuff. You have to have like you said, you have to have good content that when somebody finds it, they should like it on their own. And not necessarily should it be shoved down your throat. I'm a little bit happy that the the views I get on that are going to be for my followers that want to see my content. Not that Instagram shoved it down their throat. Yeah, I agree. I mean, again, I agree. And you should get millions of legitimate views. >> How do you get into playlist? You just mentioned interesting. You mentioned that it it like struck. How do you get into a playlist? Could you like could they add you after? Could you call him I'll give you 100 bucks. Put me in your place. >> A lot of people do that. >> They do that. >> So, protect me from those evil ways. Please protect me from the advice. Bad evil advice. But yeah, go ahead. >> Are you on playlist? I'm sure you >> I don't know. To me, that's like so evil. But yeah, >> you're saying if you're on a playlist or you get automatic hits. >> Yeah. I mean again >> what's some famous playlist >> if I need the guilt and like I'm making major money off platform like I walk over the guy and tell him good chaveis nicely reluctantly like >> you're going to take a >> would I sell a car probably faster than that I'll be honest if I have to if that's if wants me to be a if you want me to be a balag I'll be you said your child tell the guy I'll tell me go ahead you said your child came home from yeshiva >> and he's not such a good singer. This particular one >> not a singer. >> I want to go through in 2026. You have a 10-year-old kid that has a gorgeous voice. >> A kid that comes home with a gorgeous voice. >> Is it going to be nimn that you're going to get him lessons and you're going to try to get him gigs and he's going to make a parasit. Should a person that has a 10-year-old kid that has a good voice, would they be doing them a favor and telling your kid, "Don't do it. Stay away from the microphone." >> No. No. No. >> When do you What's the rules? The kids if the kid is supposed to be on stage. Yeah, why not? Like what have the kids? If the kid's a cow, don't to go do moo and go get milk from him. >> Yeah, but the kid's a horse. Don't run a bull. But don't make a bull a cat. Don't make a bull a horse. Like >> a child a child that's going to be popular. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Popular. I mean, that's a weird thing. Kids pop. >> What I'm saying is is that I'm 40 years old in two weeks. I'm going to be 40 years old. >> You're kidding me. >> Yeah. 40 years old. Beautiful. I walk down >> Wow. I didn't see you. I walk down the street and people know who I am. >> Of course, >> it's cute. It's nice. Whatever. And sometimes I'm sitting on Friday night after the meal and I'm reading the army magazine and I'm like maybe, you know, this is a little bit dangerous territories that people know who I am. Honking, screaming my name. Frank has the same problem. I don't know, maybe he enjoys it. I don't know. What I'm saying is that it >> But I'm saying a kid a kid that's 12, 13, 14, 15. Doesn't it like when they're not fully developed, could it be like very bad for them? >> Yeah. Yeah. Very weird. Like very awkward. So you you you encourage child prodigies, singers, musicians. >> I encourage people to be content and make supper for their kids. And that what I would end right there like we stop again. I have a whatever I have. >> Do you should an artist a great artist? I'm encouraging them with giving them talking about drawing giving them brushes and everything. Go promote your pictures. What are you promoting? You're a child. You have to know how to make your bed first. I mean, come on. Why? I have a complex. I need to get famous myself. So I'm going to make my kid my tool. That's what it is. Yeah, they need to have famous. I never heard of a kid that needs fame. That's weird. >> So, you should not be encouraging them to sing in public. >> Honestly, you shouldn't encourage >> You shouldn't be encouraging anybody to do anything. >> What does that mean? >> I don't know. I don't know. >> Could you Could you lean into that and explain what you mean? >> You're saying everything should be or happen organically. >> Very addictive. >> There's no cherry by the way. Wild crash. >> Wild can you can we can we lean into that? You think people should never push people to do anything. >> You think everything should happen organically? >> Let's take a very like uh cold a cold. No, no, no, no. I think that maturity de fame that comes with maturity is good. If fame comes earlier on become a weirdo. >> grand weirdo.com. Yeah. >> Elaborate. Could you you seen examples? Can we talk about it or not allowed to talk about it? So you told me that it makes you stickle uncomfortable being popular. >> Okay. So imagine you're 10. Okay. And just like try to quantify that. Okay. So you're 10 and you have that emotion. I mean that's getting pretty weird in a 10-year-old because you have a very easy counter a bill. So if you're getting drunk on your fame, then a bill comes in. It's like sober up. Sober up. We need 550 for conet. Goodbye. It humbles you, right? >> Hey, where's the tuition? Oh, okay. I'm no longer popular, so now you're normal. But if you're like a 10-year-old that like eats mama's food and like you're famous. Oh, God almighty. You're going into weird universe and you actually think you're cool and you're not because your parents have bad taste. >> So, they're also encouraging you to do the wrong thing. Don't encourage your kids. Let your kid figure it out yourself, you idiot. Let your kid do what they want. Stop telling them what >> do all Hollywood trial prodies end up messed up? Is that a fact, Clappy? Are you familiar with that? >> Feel like they all go on drugs or die young or something. >> Okay. A lot of them do. >> Okay. But the thing is, I'll tell you what, it was necessary because they made good movies. But if you're a singer and you're not even a good singer and you're old kid that sing, Wow, good job. So now you're getting famous without the talent. You're not contributing anything. You might end up on drugs. I don't know. You're not going to end up on drugs because you don't have that type of mool. You need like you need to have >> child prodigies. They only become famous because they're good. So you this delusion that some little parent cheering their kid on and they sing horrible, they're never going to get anywhere. Okay. So >> Okay. Listen, I was in a choir and I Okay. Okay. Anybody's like taking me >> but no one choir that you know I'm just saying you can only get progress if you're actually good. >> Okay, good. So if they do progress and good stuff just long as the parents don't get too involved in it because then it gets weird. >> I had a guy on the show Yudi Cohen said that he was extremely famous. Slov where big song sings >> and and and then the kabad community in London tried to shut him down and not let him perform anymore and they ruined him and they gave him a bad taste but >> I heard that this story. >> So I'm saying >> I'll tell you the story that's not what happened. >> Tell us the story. >> It's probably if you really want to know a story with Cohen. I don't know if Yan ever looks at it this way. It's possible there's a principle. Okay, let's see. Principal >> either narcissist or borderline person. One of the two things. Okay, whatever the principles I'm just making it up. Principle A. Yudi Cohen's father, let's just say, I'm making up a story, didn't notice that this guy is a raging narcissist. So, whenever he walked over to him, he used to slap him on the back and say, "Good job, Mr. principal. Could you make sure that the teacher comes on time?" That guy said, "That guy Cohen, I'm going to get back at him." Yi Cohen became famous. He's like, "I'll destroy their lives." And then you Cohen made it all story about the London community. Okay, could be the London community or it could just be your little perception of what happened. I'm not underlining his trauma, just saying there's different perspectives on stories and usually ends up happening between four people. It's usually a story. The community attacked me. Four people attacked you. You, yourself, your wife, and the principal. Isn't that possible? Come on. You know it's true. No one turned against everyone turned against me. Why? Five people message me you five 10 15 people message you. There's millions of people. 15 people message me. I hate the community. Who do you hate? Three people screwed me like I I hate this s the most beautiful awesome fan base I have by the way. I love them. I love them. Love them. Love them. Someone said I don't do business to them. Why? I don't do screwed. Okay, dude. Um last time I checked there's like six billion. So, okay, you're a sucker or it was my shirt and you got involved with three that do screwy stuff. So, guess what? They got you. That doesn't make the other six million screwy guys. They're sweetest guys ever. I don't do I don't do business. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? How do you also if they did business in Lakewood, they'd also find three guys that screw them there or in Crown Heights wherever they would go. It would be the same story just to have them do business in Williamsburg. >> No one in Williamsburg wants to do business with them because they're all screwing. So they find the guys from outside and then go or >> no one wants to do business with you because they're 97% of them are honest and they realize that you're nuts. So who does it? No, the guy that only steal and you're looking and you're like what the heck is wrong with Lensburg and you're like you look at the mirror and you're like oh that's me. Like someone just called me yesterday. Some guy said, "Oh, I had a negative financial transaction with the kebab." Remember the guy hired like 20 kabad. >> I said, "Sam, if you would have called, what did he say? If you called us before about this particular individual, >> right? Right. >> We would strongly advise you to look for other alternative investment opportunities. So as an outsider not knowing a person's reputation with his risk >> and just a little piece of advice for investors if a person is doing extremely well this why I never understood logically okay I don't want to go into scams okay but I just this I never understood >> if I'm making millions of dollars okay just billions of dollars okay bill yeah okay and why do I need to go to the 500s to get an investor know I'm just wondering like why I need to go to the 500 it's so uh Uh, I don't know. If you're doing so well, why do you need why do you need me? >> No, no, no. Maybe whatever diversify investment, but you know what I mean? Might she like we're going to talk business? Like I don't know if I'm in Crown Heights and I have a good business idea. If I have to start going like very obscure places, I don't know. To me, it's a question just a it's just a flag that maybe we should be re like what's up, you know, >> being a musician. >> Clan onto that first as someone who has raised money to failed projects. First of all, the easiest best people to fund raise money from for idea is the people your friends and family. They know you. I think so. Step one. Step number two, >> every time if you're going to raise money from your own community and unfortunately the deal goes bad. Yes. Right. You did everything possible. Let's say I had a drink van. Everything did everything possible. >> There's something called it's called a a Catholic marriage. An investor they say is like a Catholic marriage. They never they always like these guys who invested in my drink man 5 years ago. Unfortunately, you collapse. Whatever. You have some issues. >> Yeah. >> Calls me like now, oh, I see you doing well with the podcast. >> I know. >> Where's my money? >> Don't do whoever. Don't do that. >> Sir, did you lend me the money or did you invest the money? >> Did we try our best? >> Did we sell? Were we in a few hundred stores with distribute? Whatever. Unfortunately, there's some things beyond my control and this investor. >> Oh, yeah. Sorry. So, >> sucks. >> Not having to just as a side note, not having to see the guy at every sim and you see him at 770. >> By the way, >> I'm with you. And by the way, >> there is a perk having if you're doing this in a total ethical way. You won't have to see the guy. >> You're right. By the way, >> here's another strange part. After this investment down, he started nudging me like a few years ago. I blocked the WhatsApp. I said, "You know what? Now I'm let me unblock him. And because I unblocked him, that's when he started talking. >> Okay, by I'm going to even go even further by the way to what you're saying. I'm going to support what you're saying because it makes sense. I'll tell you even more so because part of it is that actually if I'm fundraising from you, I can manipulate you based on our relationship. If I could get a person that can invest in me from five towns, he just sees me very objectively and therefore he reads the facts. So it's actually easier for me to get an investor from a guy from five towns. I agree with that. That would be a good point. Another thing is >> big investors say if you want to prove your product do not try to sell it to your friends or family trying to be nice. Go to a stranger go to my go guys don't know who you are and sell them your potato chips and give them a taste of the chips and see if they're going to buy it. >> I bow you're right I'm wrong. No I'm not thousand% wrong. >> However you're as an investor from the five towns it may be good idea to call some guys in crown. Hey you know this guy you Frank cuz he a shady guy. >> He's an awesome guy. It means >> invest, invest, invest. So worst case scenarios, you'll just get cases of leftover drinks from the stores. >> Big deal. >> If I understand correctly, a good musician, >> writer, artist, >> the gigs are not at like 4:00 in the afternoon or or like 12 to 3. >> A lot of the times you're out, you're getting back at 1 2 3:00 in the morning. >> Yes. Yes. >> We do not have a 9 to 5 job. >> Yeah. >> My and I were going to meet clients to do advertising, marketing for them. We're going to the studios. We're working with very successful >> business. I want to tell you by you guys are going to do well. >> I mean, you do. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna do well. >> You have to just stick with it and that's it. I would just say just stick with it. Whatever it is, just don't whatever. Yeah. Don't get distracted. >> A lot of times somebody says, "I've run a busy company. I can meet you 9:00 at night in a studio and I get home and a lot of times my wife's like, "YOU CAN'T WORK 9 TO5 LIKE A NORMAL PERSON." SO, what I'm saying is is you really don't work 9 to5. >> No, mama don't. >> So, how does it work with the family life? I told my wife to quit the 9 to5 because it was too much. She was working for a 9 to5. She was doing 9 to5 >> and therefore I couldn't I couldn't then I couldn't start my three 2 o'clock in the afternoon because it like over overlapped. Not only that it was making our house way too normal. Someone has a 9 toive job. It's like way too normal. So we got to unstabilize the house a little bit to make it way more fluffy. So she doesn't work. Such a beautiful thing. So that's what you suggest. She's saying people who have >> Yeah. Don't have a spouse that works a 9 to5 if you don't work 9 to5. Not a good idea. Maybe a good idea. I don't know. You know, I'm actually getting into places that have no expert. Do whatever you want. Go to marriage counseling. Figure it out. It's really not that complicated. Just be honest. Whatever. And you'll be resentful for 2 years and you won't be resentful for two years. You'll figure it out. You won't be I don't know. Something will happen. You'll figure it out. If >> you don't get divorced, you're fine. Best thing is don't get divorced and you have to figure it out. Get divorce. I'm so sorry. You think if you look as an option, if you look at as an option, >> all the neighbors are going to talk about it. Look at the guy. This guy's divorced >> and they think that you don't know that you don't think that you're the don't be divorced. Period. It's the worst thing for the kids. Now they're going to traumatizing them now. The guy got divorced already. Why you telling you it's the worst thing for the kids? Why you telling the kids that's the worst thing for them? That's why guys broke. It's the worst thing that you're broke. It's the worst thing you have no money. Look at the pants. This divorce spots you're in. What is he supposed to do? Get remarried. He obviously got divorc. >> Oh, bad reason. >> I just I just saw this lady. What's her name? She used to exhibit at my art fair every circus. >> Okay. >> Meer. She She knew. >> She divorced. >> Very nice lady. She sells like craft. She makes She got divorced. 10 years later she got remarried to the same guy by the way. That's 10 years later. >> Awesome. That's awesome. >> It's a mitzvah. >> Yeah. So the people, you know, the music producer guy, Benny Benny's old guy, his sister, very nice lady. She got nobody. Very very >> No, not like six months after 10 years later. They asked the guy, they asked the guy, he's having a horrible marriage. She getting divorced. She's horrible. She's a terrible person. A few months later, they get divorced. There's a wedding invitation. He's marrying her again. His friend says, "What? What happened?" He says the vibes for a second marriage. She's not so >> Yeah, it's very beautiful. Well, you know, sometimes people get they go to get divorced for 6 hours and then they get remarried without the documents. >> I think I think people think it's grass is green on the other side and they think they get divorced with 10 kids. Everyone's lining up for them and then they >> I mean they have 10 kids and they get divorced. That's like a >> By the way, shockingly enough, a lot of the horrible marriages and major stuff you find out that they have like a gazillion kids and they thought that with each kid they're going to solve the marriage. By the way, they said each kid brings a braha. >> I would advise instead of getting worse, have another kid. No, I'm serious. Like every time she say it's done, one more kid. One more kid and then eventually something will happen. We'll figure it out at the end. Something is going to happen. Someone's going to kill themselves. Something's going to happen. But it's going to be a lot more interesting than getting divorced. >> Let's watch. >> But I think the voice is becoming more accepted in the film community. No, it's not. It's such a stain. It's that's not so >> I don't that hurt. Okay. Personally, I mean, you're asking me like that's that hurts me. That's a terrible terrible horrible dis. It's horrible. What do you mean divorce? I mean, get remarried. I'm not saying it's a terrible situation. If you're divorced, get remarried, but that's horrible. You get divorced. >> See, the issue you see all these studies does affect the kids. It doesn't this. >> No, just don't get divorced. and and you and with all studies, I mean, I just saw the study of this one of the local political campaigns and one poll comes out saying that he has a 32% chance of winning. The next poll comes out that he paid for as a >> talking about you talking about Bruce, you're talking about the the governor race. >> One guy says he's down three points. The other one says, >> I'll be honest. I'll be honest. Right now, I'll tell you the thing. We just spoke about divorce and I was like I was trying to be comedic about it. I don't have any of these issues. Thank God. So, I'm I apologize if anybody out there is like having issues. >> We're not trying to be nonsense. I'm not trying to be offensive. Don't worry about it. It's all good. You're all good. >> He's on customer mode, Clappy. >> No, just go listen. No, they're not. I'm just No, I love you. You'll get remarried. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about music. >> Clappy, you make more. Hold on. Bring homes. They can hire you each marriage. That's great for you. It's great for business. >> By the way, I actually had >> You should encourage divorce. You get like >> Okay. Okay. I I'll tell you the thing, though. I don't want to talk about divorce because I don't I just don't want to talk about it. Like, I don't want to talk about it. >> I'm just saying it's good for business. You get every wedding. you get I don't want to have any divor like it's too tell us a story of somebody that you met >> no we're not talking about it next >> tell us a story of somebody that you met and they spoke about how your music changed our life >> okay I okay my ears shut off when I hear that stuff >> okay you do >> I I don't like those stuff I don't like those stories when whenever they mention me those stories I love it no I really I'm very very touched that I changed your life >> and in one way in the back of my mind it really encourages me to continue but I also don't like revealing the stories cuz they all sound the same. No, no, not in a bad way. I can't explain. I love you. Thank you so much for loving my song. I love you. If you don't think I love you, you're crazy. I absolutely love you. But I'm not going to repeat the story. I'm not repeating your story. It's It's not >> What's your favorite song you can? >> I got to know like these people that talk. >> Somebody sent me >> You want me to tell you a song? A story? >> Show them a story, bro. Show them. Somebody sent me a message on Friday >> from a non for-profit organization. They help people that are not well. >> Yeah. >> And they said that somebody that's a big fan of yours is not feeling so well. Could you send the video? It's his birthday. >> I got the same guy message >> and they Oh, they were making a video of a lot of people. I We'll compare notes after. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Out of that city. Whatever. >> I guess they asked they asked the guy for all his favorite whatever. So I sent a video. I did a few second video. >> So beautiful wishing happy birthday. >> Beautiful. >> I did it. I got like thousands of messages. I the guy sent me back something I think might say Shabas and I saw it last night because I was going scrolling through messages or whatever. >> They sent me a picture of the guy laying in bed and they're playing the video on a big screen and you hear me wishing him happy birthday, whatever. I started choking up. >> The guy was smiling ear to ear. >> Such a nice guy. >> No, what I'm saying is that the it's not if if somebody appreciates it and they say a story that they had because of your music, then it it's an experience they had. It's legit. I don't know. >> Okay, listen. I'll be honest with you what I really my music is and my messages and like the thing that I would like to get across like if you want to start going into that zone. I want people to not live in hell. I hate when people live in hell. I hate it. I hate when people live in like like y don't don't live. Don't be dead. All the other stories sick. Thank god I I don't know. I don't know. No one should be >> What's your message in music? You just people be happy. happy like like get up and get the go. I don't know. >> So that's your message. Get up and go. >> Go go go go go. I I I can't I can't. This stuff tires me out. This guy lost the mother and the great grandfather, the great uncle. I don't want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about your uncles. I don't want to hear about the uncle anymore. You lost your uncle in the car. I don't want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about it. It's not good for me. >> You're shutting down 99% of the podcast. You're putting them out of business. We can't discuss just basic >> every mamas they put out a tearjerker. If you don't cry, they're out of business. You're telling them to stop. >> You know how much I can capitalize off the fact that my mother passed away. You know how much I could capitalize off it? Not interested. So, and people say it's because you're blocking your feelings, dude. Okay. 36 years old already at this point. I know my feelings somewhat. Somewhat. I'm not in touch with my feelings. Don't tell me that. It's not my thing. What? >> Clappy was hoping to do a whole Sabb tear jerk. He's like, "Oh, how does your father and your mother?" Clappy was in that going down that lane. >> You didn't let me. >> Oh, my father. Okay, so I'll tell you the thing. I'm I'm a little bit private about my relationship. >> Shut it down in the first two minutes. >> Yeah. Clappy was hoping for some drama. >> I'm very close with my father. My mother I haven't been close with for the past uh how many years ago she passed away 13. So it's already a couple years. My father very very close with I don't know. It's a relationship is real. I don't like discussing real relationships. It's like it's legit. You see, it's not BS. I don't like discussing stuff that's not BS. >> You lost weight, bro. So, yes, I did. How many pounds >> from the top? >> Yeah. >> 40 245 down to exactic. >> No, no injections. >> 245. >> One second. I just said I'm not nice. If you need a shot, go take a shot if that's what he feels right. I'm not mixing it. >> 245 to what? >> Zmp. It's not healthy. If you take Zepic, get healthy. Take a Zic. I don't give a damn. >> 245 to what? >> Don't take a Z. People are jealous of the guy lost. 1905. >> When 190 takes his epic, he'll regret it. He'll take his epic, too. Okay, now I like it. >> Everyone hates his epic cuz it looks Okay, whatever. I have arguments against his Empic, though. >> Against what? >> Come on. >> What's your What's Hold on. How many pounds you lose? Let's start with this. >> 45 lb. >> No, no. 45. 45 plus 10. Maybe 60 in the 60 range. >> All natural. A lot. It's a lot. >> All natural. >> Natural. Yeah. >> You just stopped eating. What do you >> No, no, no. No. Not at all. >> Jim? No band. No. >> Good choices. Good choices. >> A lot of things. A lot of a lot of things. >> No carbs. >> It's okay. It's a three. It's it's it's not it's not a physical illness. Overweight sometimes is. But it's also it's a it's a it's an emotional problem. It's a spiritual problem. You have to address it. >> Could you elaborate that >> muscle? You people eat over their problems. So you you got to take care of the problems because you can't not eat because you got to take care of the problem. So you're going to eat over your problem eventually. I mean that's why you see people come harmonica, right? Not harmonica. What's it called? >> Accordion. So now I feel bad because people lose weight and you can tell they're not well in the head. They're still not well in the head. So they're still fat in the head. >> Then they invest in very small pants. You're like such a shame. And that button is going to be the guy's going to be in worse shape. He should have never lost weight cuz now he has a soft story. Before he's just fat and he lost weight. Yeah. Once upon a time I was skinny. He chases that skinny for loads. I He's always on a diet. Why? Because I was skinny. At this point as many years doesn't really >> He started over his diet for 15 20 years. He's starting over every day. Every day. 3:00 p.m. He's doing well. At this 3 p.m. His kids come home, the whole diet goes boom. I don't even ask people how their sh how their week was anymore. At the end of the week, I say, "How's your how's your diet this week?" So, you have to ask people, "How's your diet? How's he diet going? How's your week? How's your diet?" That tells you everything. So, >> Yan's a killer. I mean, Yant,000 meals and >> it's really sad. It's really >> pre-ac. It's lethal. It's lethal and it's very hard. >> 5 pounds every how many pounds you pay? >> I I I try not to go into that thing because that's also about >> zone. No, >> I'm going to catch you on Monday, Tuesday. We're going to play the stocks. You know, you lose it eventually. God botched me over me. Thank you so much. Two years I kept two and a half years up. >> Two and a half years you kept it off. Did it get you more gigs being skinnier or >> um >> You sing better when you're skinny. >> Oh, maybe not. No, no, you do. Physiologically, yes or no? >> Physiologically, if you're eating right, you seem better because the biggest killer to the vocal cords >> is acid reflux, not everything else. >> Acid reflex is a huge killer. >> What causes acid reflux? >> Acid reflex is overeating. Just overeating. Everybody has a theories coffee. Overeating. If you overeat, you get acid reflux. You don't overeat. If you don't overeat, if you're eating 1,800 calories a day, okay, it's impossible to do with only eating marshmallows because no one's going to be full of 1,800 calories of marshmallows. But if you only ate $1,800 a day, you'd be okay. >> You go to the gym, you do walking gym. >> Yeah, but again, because I'm I'm saying I don't do gym. Like I'm not miss I'm nuts. I'm like nuts like any other overweight person because it's not it's there's an insanity with overeating. People can if you wanted to open up a store and every day you close your store down right when it's supposed to open, you'd be a mugganist. I'm out. When it comes to food, no one has control and it becomes and you try to start and you start again and again and again. It's like a little bit cuckoo. You ever thought about it's a little explain? >> If you Okay. If if someone ran a business and they said, "By the way, I'm going to make >> I'm going to keep my store open for 6 hours and every day they compulsively they open it for 4 hours and right when it gets busy at 4:00 they shut down." >> So the diet is a little bit like that. You're starting to lose weight, you shut down. You lost all your weight, you lose all your money again. There's something a little bit that you have to say it's a little bit nuts. So what it is, it's called probably an addiction. Food's an addiction. >> Food's an addiction. >> Yeah, it is an addiction. >> You eat over your problems. >> Yes. Eat over. >> Of course, it's an addiction. There's overeaters anonymous. The same way there's alcohol anonymous and then all the anonymous. There's overeaters anonymous. Oh, wait. And there's millions of people that have to go or should be going because they could teach you how to like get out of control over the problem. It's a mental illness. I'm I mean, I don't go to these meetings. I should be going to these meetings. You went to the meetings. It's a secret. >> A secret? I Because I'll tell you why I don't like pushing it so much. Because people what they do is they say, "Oh, you go to the meeting." So the type of meeting that it is is for this type of personality. But it's really not. It's not for me. It's not for the it's it's it's for addiction. >> You still go? >> Yeah. >> Well, how often? >> I used to go very often. I stopped. Thank God. I used >> Did you zoom in or you have to do it in person? >> Zoom. Zoom. I can't do >> It's real, but it's real. It's the thing is I don't want to joke about it because it's it's it's legit. So need to say if there's somebody that could really >> I know somebody that went I know somebody that went to the meetings that makes a lot of jokes about it because one of the things is that they say people get up and they say how long they've been clean like they haven't been cheating. Absolutely. >> And she told me that one of the people was like 900 lb and she would say that she didn't cheat like in two years and the person would say an in-person meeting if a person told me she's getting into her car and going straight to Dunkin Donuts. >> You want to go? No way. She's >> I have I have funny stories. No, the best one is the guy. >> Real stories. >> Okay. The guy's like on it. Okay. Okay. This guy's like stalking how he's eating so well. Got to mention they got the bed in his epic. So imagine you go for baseball boxing and the guy took steroids. You're like, "Come on, you can just do it. You can break a wall." Um, >> I'll make it >> because he said just don't eat. >> I said, "What the heck's that supposed to be? Just don't eat." I mean, it sounds very good. Sounds like a first. Don't do it. Of course, you going to be I'm not going to be eating. I'm going to be zicked out, baby. >> Is that what they look like? >> Zmpic. I can put my knee even closer to my chin. >> What do you think of Zenic? become such a >> you can walk so skinny >> becomes so beautiful and small like a little baby. >> He's saying it's not healthy. >> It's very healthy. >> Very healthy. >> I just made a joke about it. That's but it's totally fine. I know you can also make a joke like >> you go to the gym. >> Yeah. >> Every day. >> No, not lately. Not because of whatever my kids and start school. Bob turns. >> But you go to gym 5 days a week. >> I try try. I try. I try every day. >> In the gym. How long in the gym? >> Half hour. It's 40 minutes. Doesn't really matter. It doesn't all this stuff doesn't matter. >> You have to check in. >> Doesn't matter. Check in. You have to go. You have to come home. >> Make it part of your life. >> Problem is the the food makes you nuts. The food is a big nutty thing. >> And you also at Simas there's food everywhere. Every Oh my god. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, thank God somehow the simas kind of checked out except if it's whatever kind of like I I went off of that. Yeah. Like like certain things like Shabas morning I divorced cake. I don't know how the heck that happened. That's a miracle by the way. >> That's a hard one. >> Yeah. >> That's a divorce you encourage big time because I'll tell you why. No. No. Because you have to realize with food though people don't it's not just the food. It's it's the connection. You remember the time you with your mother and father and everyone's together and you eat donuts. I was like, "No." So what do you mean? I can't I want I want the memory. I want the beauty of it and you don't have it. Then you become a mar skinny marish which also is terrible. You can't come a skinny marish. Ew. Eat eat. I find that a lot of people that were very very heavy >> and they become skinny. >> They lose all their personality and I don't want to have anything to do with them anymore. They're boring and nasty. >> Malnourished. >> Malnourished. What do you mean? usually malnourished because they're on like again I'm not saying that this diet is not healthy not saying anything go get your doctor keto >> carnivore you know carnivore is eat just protein >> just eat your emotions away but just keep increasing you fooled your body but you become like a malnourished because you have no carbs so you come very like ah so that's not good so you need a balance you have to have a balanced diet what's it called? Middle Eastern diet. What diet do you re >> And it's very hard. I have been doing it. Okay. I I I I went through a lot of different diet. So I personally understand the frustration and people go through different experiences. You have to heal guys. You have to if you want to get over your eating problem. You're trying to lose weight for more than 10 years and you have a bigger problem than just your food. Okay? So get take care of it. That's just take care of it. I'm not going to tell you how to do it. Just figure out yourself. Like I don't have the answer. Yeah. Yeah. Diet. I tried it. I don't want to hear your stories. It's a stupid story. It's all the story. Yeah. It's all the same stupid story. You eat a cheesecake. You didn't see a cheesecake and ate it. You have problems. You have problems. You have serious problems. What you talk to alcoholic. You have problems, >> right? The alcohol is a symptom. >> It is a symptom. You have obvious issues. And it's okay. You have issues. Go take care of it and figure it out. Then we'll have a podcast. >> You'll talk about how you healed and became Oh, they become godly. >> What? >> Whatever. >> Well, Shashana's two days away. >> Oh, yeah. >> Can we get a niggan? >> No. I put I will guess I'll say to I say to the she To begin, >> how the song so timeless? >> Oh, because it's darn good. >> So, how was it from the Holocaust? >> It's No. No. It's way better than that. >> It's so Well, Holocaust does not make good songs. >> No. Are there any Holocaust good songs? I'm saying like songs that came >> any Holocaust. Holocaust. Holocaust a horrible thing. So, I don't like the only thing >> you can be creative. >> Only thing that came out from it. Okay, this is controversial. I think I came out of Holocaust was there at all but whatever. Next didn't say that. Okay. It's coincidence. Coincidence. >> You notice when you when you notice when you two were singing, I did not join. I took I thank you very much by the way. It was very nice. And not only that, you listening actually gave us that right energy. So when people stop singing because they're not supposed to sing, you're actually giving the other singers. >> The clip I go to to show people I play saxophone. >> Makes sense, right? is the clip I show people that I play saxophone on is a clip that I'm playing with at this hotel in New It was a Delta Marriott suites >> and it was a hotel program >> I don't it was one of these hotel maybe it was Tesla Monty Tesla restaurant whatever that guy yes >> and then Bong gives me a solo on my saxi Good guy. Good guy. Good guy. Miy good guy. You see, I'm not telling you you're a good guy because I Good guy. >> And he's >> So he did this I do. >> Are you a Kazian Kipper? >> Yeah, but my brother-in-law is an official capacity. >> Why don't you maybe I was thinking about it cuz I think whatever. Okay, I thought about it. Maybe I could do make another $15,000 and I realize it makes no difference. You make not because I'm rolling in the dough which I will be but not because I'm rolling in the dough because I realize when you chase after the money I don't know it starts running you start going in a circle like woohoo. So I rather not do that. Okay we're just going to come with me cash. >> Just come with me and I'm not going to look at you. Just come with me little little mooney. And I ain't gonna chase you because Annie gonna run away from me. And then I'm gonna be miserable forever chasing the dollar around. I'll be kissing everybody's. But that's the funny part. We had this conversation in the past that Kloppy started his voice notes anonymous. He was not looking for >> he was not looking. It just all came. And your marketing by the way >> I was behind the camera for a year. >> That's what I'm saying. Legit. Legit. >> So if it's comes from a non it says what is it covers if you run right after no but not only that also the says what's income that a person should go for something that's natural to them. >> Right. >> So if a person if I'm going to start a podcast no no it's an ev evolution of >> of you. >> Yeah. Of you. It evolves. Is this not supposed to like Yeah, >> you can't make a podcast. >> I don't think so. Make a podcast. >> I was speaking to this >> so you know how making podcasts look >> I spoke to this big I I spoke to this big ex influencer someone we all know. I said why you do a podcast. I love how this already exone has to say. Why would I open a podcast? >> I don't have anything only interest in myself. I'm like he told me those words. I was like, "Okay, at least he knows." >> Didn't you one time, didn't you one time say that some podcasters, they they have the guest there as an excuse? They just want to talk to themselves. It's like >> we said this many time. I'm going to repeat it. If you're there to create value and you have a message, you will do very well. And in whatever territory, any field, if you're looking to help someone, if you're looking to create value, people will pay for that value, enjoy that value, trade that value. If you bring no value, you get nothing. It just >> I I think yeah I think God's kind. I think he's uh he takes care of everybody and even if people are somehow they make the right decisions. The only thing is that they're not normal so they thought they made the wrong decision. People that pivot in business constantly like you could just stick to the one business they'll be everything will be the same. >> Are you talking to me or >> No no no no I'm saying like the same >> cuz Clappy before his podcast he says you know people telling me I don't know if you should partner with Miy Frank every day he has another right clap. What do you tell Hold on a second. But that's Mishi. But that's But that's my Could you repeat that pivot? Not pivoting. He is pivot. >> Could you repeat that speech? >> Oh, pivot. By the way, talking about pivot clap, it's not about you. >> Repeat the speech you told me before we started. >> People that are involved in many businesses and they disappear. People get very nervous about them. You know what? >> Repeat the speech you told me. >> What did I tell you? >> He said, "Mushi, I don't know. People tell me you shouldn't work with me because every day is one day is a drink, the next day this, the next day." >> And you trust God. >> Mishi and I have been an incredible team. It's notable. >> See, very smart. Very smart. They don't listen to >> the naysayers are just they're just negative people. They don't want you to be successful. >> I know for my business itself. >> What? >> They flies. >> Oh, advice is so dumb. If you want to hear the dumbest things to ask someone, can you give me advice? Okay, now we're going to record the dumbest things for the next like 12 hours. Go ahead. Let's go. Let's hear the dumb. >> You know, me and Bar my first time servicing a billionaire was with Baral Gil, New York. >> Yeah. How did it come about? The cool Ronald >> that Yeah. Yeah. >> So the story. >> Yeah. Listen to the story. It's awesome story. >> I don't know how it evolved. Do you remember the how it evolved? >> I remember how it so Ronnie Pearlman was coming. Ronnie Pearlman is coming. Wow. Ronnie Pearlman is coming. He's coming. Ronnie Pearlman's coming. Everyone has to hear about 17,000 times. He's like gave 200K. Give more. He built Brifka. Big deal. Ronnie, you're a great guy. You are a good guy. Give more and more cash. Stop it. >> So what was the story? How do you evolve? >> It annoyed me. Even then annoyed me. I was like 15. >> Hold on one second. One second. Mid-sentence. Hard stop. >> Kinsky relaunched Machel Development Fund. >> I like it. >> Made a big event in Manhattan last week. I had a friend that was there. >> He told me that there was very very powerful influential people. Do you know who everybody in the entire room was chasing and lacking? Who? >> Ronald Pearlman's son. >> Oh. >> He tells me I'm not sure. The guy has 50 cents in his bank account and I think he lives in a studio apartment in Manhattan. But because HIS NAME IS PEARLMAN, THEY WERE LICKING. PEARLMAN'S GOT me to camp is going to make a beautiful choir. The choir is going to sing Israel. Instinctively then I knew I knew the stage guys. Ronnie Prman is not coming to hear kids sing stupid songs. Okay? He does not want to hear Mahan. He does not give a damn about it. Thank God. So I wrote a song. There was a busy man on a chopper. He did land onto the gates of Ganis and I told all the kids to turn around and when to come to the course said Ronald O Ronald O Ronald Ronald and point at him so I'm supposed to start the choir supposed to be a very nice thing how was I involved in the >> you were think she was such a good support >> what was how how was I involved >> I can't explain it you were like the rock behind it like you you gave me that like um the the push to to do the choir like you kind of like like okay I was going to do the choir So you took the kids, you come here like you're going to go do it like and you were very cool because you were very empowering but you didn't take away anything from me. It's not like you took away my you said no bar you were like no bar do that go ahead move forward like you pushed me up front but it was very empowering I have to say it was very empowering I really appreciate it so we're doing this song so I almost sent the stand up and it's Ronnie Pman's on stage and trying to say for Tyra okay now we're going to sing the camp 25 years again no I'm like guys we're going to do the song but there was a on a chopper and was looking like what the heck is this kid I doing that's fundraising to sing this song about my f you know how insulting it is and all of a sudden the kids start turning around Ronald Ronald Ronald we got a rich kid there was a rich man and everyone's pointing Ronald it's part of this >> starts laughing he finds it so funny they're singing things they're literally kissing they're like kissing up to him openly the next day he calls up please come to Manhattan bring a video of the camp the kids the whole company came into his room and watched the video hold Hold on. On top one. >> Rev one. >> Hold on. On top of that, he said, "If I only could have this choir at every board meeting with all my guys saying, "Who's the real decision maker, Ronald?" >> Now, and I made the song, I wasn't trying to kiss up to him straight up because that's what he wants. So, that's what you're going to give him. You see, the wealthy guy wants to be kissed up. You say, "Okay, you know, you want to be kissed up, too. We're going to do it, man. And we're going to do it with class. What would you like me to say about you, man? How great you are. You got it, baby. How great you are. how strong and smart you are and they like it much better versus good job is they know you're doing they're not stupid don't do the good job is thing but the only thing is they have to settle for that because that's only people are doing it like okay fine we'll take the kiss off come no give me the legit deal with wealthy clients you you do the whole kiss >> no why would I do wealthy what they don't want to be kissed up to regular people what do you mean what the heck is the difference between me and you and them >> so you don't do the whole kissing >> no you don't do it >> no why should I do it it's annoying it's annoying >> what about the video calls you get those video calls >> for the headlines by wealthy Bali and no longer wealthy. >> Okay, what about those interesting thing cuz like when you see them again and by the same people >> you do you do any events that mean if a guy used to be rich and he had you at his other kids bar mitzvah you'll go for free or like a discount? >> Okay, first of all I if he called me up and I was available to do it I I would we would vibe it out. We'll make it a worksh not too many of that. But I'm saying God bless them. Whatever. Everyone's good. Like they're good. Don't worry. Make your money again. Your kid will make money again. I'll give you money. >> Those video call requests. >> They try to flex. They do video calls to show that they know you. >> Do you get that? >> Oh, yeah. I do. >> What? How do you respond? >> I'm very thankful when I get that. Wow. Thank you so so much. People are like wanting to look at me. It's pretty cool. It's like not bad. Like not bad. Like I like No, By It's pretty freaking cool that you get that. No. >> So, you like that? >> Of course I do. I love you like the video. One second. I love fame. I love fame. >> Depends who. >> You love fame. >> Of course I love fame. >> Clap. You like the video call request? >> Depends who. >> Explain. How many do you do you accept? >> I think if it's a guy that sends me business, >> yeah, >> he could call me whenever he wants video call flex. If your mom is like never throw me a penny business and you like ask me advice in my businesses and your mama is a waste of time and now you want to call somebody else that's going to help you make business that you know please don't call me. >> So you don't like those video calls. >> It depends from who? Some people I love it. >> I can see wealthy guys liking you. >> Oh they love it. God remember I have a billionaire's office. All he did the whole time. >> That billionaire called me used to do it. He never gave us a single dollar of business. >> Don't call me anymore. You could don't know names. He could stay. >> Yeah. There's a but thank god there's a lot of billion there's a lot of multi-millionaires that can say things doesn't make it >> no he said that he always hires let him call you calli all day by the way he doesn't hire once he does the same thing the same thing that you're saying about him everyone says oh dwki md circles a circle everyone find out you find out whoever he treats you treats everybody else including his wife someone from this brilliant >> hold up was it a hard cut off you said a certain time we're past that time what time is 4:34. No, >> let's let's finish it off another 10 minutes if you want. >> Someone told me a brilliant vert. They said if someone's nasty to you, they're probably nasty to everyone. Don't feel so exclusive. >> Yeah. >> Is the guy still from >> if it's going to be 10 minutes about this? I mean, I don't know. >> How does someone book you? The email. Is your email? >> Okay. Okay. Email. What's your email? >> I want to just say a disclaimer over here. >> Email. What's your email? >> Do me a favor, guys. >> Yeah. >> You could deal with agents. If agent says that I'm not available, Contact me directly. >> Sounds like you have some stories clap. >> No, no, no. Just contact me directly. I will be the nicest guy to you ever. You can bargain with me. As long as you don't tell me how you're poor. I don't want to hear you're poor to bargain with me. Don't give me soft stories. Contact me. We'll talk. We'll smoo. We'll become good friends. >> If they say they're yum. >> And don't you start with that. Don't you start with that stuff. You call me up. We'll talk like two human beings. Have enough compassion. And I don't need your >> How do they reach you? >> Email. Email. >> Call me. Go on my in figure it out. Don't speak to Listen, you want to talk to an agent, fine. But if they say I'm not available, >> contact me and do me a favor. Contact me directly. Thank you. >> Wait a second. You got rid of the agents? Cuz I know a lot of popular singers that only work with an agent. They say, "Never call me." >> Oh, well, I used to be that cool guy. I had to sway stuff, but then I decided >> I'm just a normal person. >> Remember by the concert we met those guys behind stage. They all said that they work with agents. Imagine I don't like touching the money. No, I want to touch it. I want you to send the zel to my account. To my account. I want to hear kaching and write to you. Thank you. Received. It's my money. You funny. Re we do p we do get and pursue. >> Oh, I love agents. Yeah, >> we do. I do. I really do. Just talk to me directly. Thank you. We do pursue clients and we have to sometimes have these agencies in the way taking their cuts, you know, which they do. They earn it. They deserve it. >> Yeah, I'm very happy with them. >> Lately, we've been going straight to brands directly. And if you are a brand or sponsor, >> reach out to us. Do not goirectly. Do not go to the codependent relationships that need to make money off every call. Just contact me directly and we will do business. >> We'll second that, Clappy. We second what he said. >> Especially if and >> this is not the 1980s where I walk straight from my building into my limo. There are ways to contact me. Thank you. >> So, if you want to order our coffee, [email protected], email us. It's $25 plus shipping. Shipping is an issue because New York City shipping is very cheap than California could be up to over $12. So, email us and let's see what the shipping. We're new at this. We're just We don't even have a barcode. >> Okay. >> And hold on. We have a tan the best and I can and and also >> the only I believe only whole bean coffee on the market today with you see >> just pay for it and celebrate and just be okay with buying a bag for $45. >> It's not 45. >> I know it's not 45. >> You smell a br. How was the coffee? You tried it before? >> It was very very good. Guys, I'm buying a bag >> right now. >> The great Brolovski. >> Thank you so much. >> We have any other questions? Do we ever we want to ask our star? There's a lot of like >> By the way, this is the last show of the year. >> I know. By the way, I'm very very Okay. Oh, you want to go back? By the way, I want to rewind >> two days before the podcast met you in the mikvah. >> It dawned on me. I have to be on podcast. >> Really? You saw me? >> No. No. Dawned on me. >> It dawned on me that he had to be on a podcast. >> A podcast. Not a podcast. >> You saw me. >> And then what happened was Shabas got up. Usually don't go to mikvah. I was in a bad mood about something. I was I'm like, I need to go to mikvah. No, there's no kick. >> Action. Take action. Whenever you're in a bad place, just do something. >> Guess what's going to come from this? I'm going to go viral. It's going to be huge. It's going to be huge. And if you don't believe me, ass clap. >> That's what happened. The day before you said you needed to be on a podcast. >> Two days before >> and then you met >> and he met you shabas morning and I believe by there's frequencies by the way. These stuff happen constantly. People don't it's constantly happening. It's constantly it's it constantly happens if you if you're going into a >> you know I wanted to mention I wanted to mention this and we we we we stayed away from the family and the mushy stuff in tough nuniml we got a letter home that we're having pictures the next day and it's like my father is like you know you should wear a nice yarmaka my father's like you should wear a nice yamaka to pictures like it should be a beautiful yarmaka and my father got like a yamaka pictures and it's like 8:00 at night and my sister Brahi is like the one that's married to craft efforts from my grand her and her mother they do yamakas >> she was not involved no it was yeah >> it wasn't your mother >> my mother is my mother's spirit was there >> she wasn't involved in the yamakas >> the love of my mother was in the yamakas I went to your house I was smoozing with your mother my older sister Miriam she brought me there whatever we went through a pile of yamakas and I think we found the one yamaka and I'm pretty sure >> they were able to take the puffer paint called puffer paint and they were able to do the yamakas They said they was going to dry whatever. So I had like a nice Yamaka experience. >> Yes. Yes. And she still saw >> Khan was in the Yamakas. >> Yeah. Khan's in the Yamakas. >> She still does. I'm >> so happy by that we documented that because that would be like an untold story that had to be told. Yeah. Yeah. >> One more thing. I did pursue two different come >> They stood they both stood us up >> and thank God we got a real horror. Each time they stood us up we got a crazy episode instead. Are you serious? >> Ley Goldstein, >> they stood you up. >> Ley Goldstein, we booked the studio in Manhattan. You're nuts. >> We drove to his office on top of the bakery on president. We drove the office. He made up a story about taking his kids to gymnastics. >> Mishi double parks. >> Double parks by 770 and schlaps out Mando Gitzki. >> THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. >> SHAHA. >> I love it. I love it. I love it. >> Schlaps out menitzky. The famous tunnel digger was because of Ley Goldstein. Ley said he prefers just to be mentioned, not brought on. >> We got him what he wanted. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, Levy. Ley. Yeah, that's Yeah. No, no, totally get it. By the way, I totally get it. He's not in the business of like podcast. Oh, wow. I got 29 minutes ago a notification that I had money deposited. The question is, is that a notification from a few hours ago, which Okay, I already got over it. Or is that a new one? And question is how much? >> Oh, you got something not sh There's a great uncle. A great uncle out there decided It's time to have fivetory building on his debacle. >> Maybe that's what it is. >> We're going to make a big building ever. We're going to have a big I'm going to make a big store sign. My house. I'm kidding. It's all good. >> K, >> thank you so much for ending off the year on a high ending off the year on a high. >> One more question. >> Of course. >> If I want to compo, my dream is to make a compose my hit song. >> When's the best time? Is there any best time to think of a song? Do you compose it on the piano? >> Probably if you want to write a song, you probably have a song inside of you. So, just start singing it >> and then record the next step. Record it. >> Record yourself singing. >> Yeah. >> You got the first shot, it's like the first squeeze. >> No, my she just sing it and then record and listen to it and then work on it and it's all the because if I tell you my script then it comes my song and then it's a stupid song because it's supposed to be my song. My songs are >> You don't want to tell you how you don't want to say how you you >> No. No. No, no, no. I'm saying it's like saying how do you think about it's like it's your own like if you write a song that goes like this okay that would be more interesting than doing good that I heard 100 times. So even the other song makes no sense. is better because like unpredictable is God's good. I don't know. It's better. It's better than saying good. Yeah, >> bro. What about price-wise? Um, do slower songs more expensive than fast? >> No, I can't discuss pricing. I'm just curious. >> No, there's no pricing. >> There's no pricing. >> No. No. >> Listen, my slow songs are more interesting. songs. I got a lot of money for my songs. I got I got a free lease for my song. >> Really? On a car? >> Yeah. >> I'm not going to mention the name because these advertisement over here is different. >> Oh, wheels to lease. >> Okay, fine. Very good. >> Yeah. >> You >> Oh, wait. Emergency. >> What's emergency? >> We had a popular jeweler on our show, Ley Lane. The wonderful Ley Lane that we love so much. He lost his mother today. >> Barak dynamis. um his mother the legendary principal rever from Lefforts um passed away. We wish our toy and to his brother Mendel from Kahas and to the entire extended family and from now on they should only have only good things. We're sorry for the uh untimely loss of their wonderful mother. Isn't it cool that this is Bar's first podcast and it's the first podcast we're having a singer? >> It's amazing. >> Even though it's very nice that it's the end of the year, there's going to be a new chapter, the close of a beautiful, beautiful chapter of even a more awesome chapter. There's a foundational chapter for you guys by this foundational chapter, right? How old >> a year? >> Slightly over a year. >> It's first year. It's very good. >> Do you watch our show? >> Yes, I do. Yes, I really do. >> Why? >> It's interesting. I don't know. I don't think about it too much. I just watch and that's a perfect thing. Like don't get too sensational. That's uh just that be weird because >> don't get too sensational. >> Don't get too sensational. >> Like no drama sort. You're not into this. >> So nauseating. >> Don't do that. >> Our first singer. >> Oh, and I want to give you guys a bra idea is I want to give you guys a bra. You should become so popular that you should split up and you should make your each podcast. Each make your own podcast. You together and then you come back together. Are there any there are shows that two guys stuck a long time? No, >> no, no. I'm stop. I'm not saying any guys you guys should do well. So that Well, they could break up by the way and you do make a lot of money. >> We can make enough money to be independent. >> Yeah, >> but we should stick together. >> We should be ready. >> Oh, well, no. The channel should open up because you clap and then they're separate on the shows. Why am I >> exists already? Clappy does private ones. I do private. >> Oh, okay. Fine. So, you already you already have the fights. Beautiful. That's beautiful. The fight with the piece. >> It was never a fight. >> No, no, I'm saying without the fight being necessary. >> No, we do like private. If you pay, we'll do a interview yourself. Whatever. >> I I think that's very important. A partnership have a fight right away. >> Right away. >> Yeah. Because anyway, you're going to fight. So, right away have the fight in the first month. If you manage it, then you can survive the partnership. Then you continue. Otherwise, why you waiting two years and you're going to fight? No. Right away fight. Whatever you feel in the right first month, first week, scream. Scream. If manages, good. Now, it's built on good stuff. Built on some fluff. >> Is there a famous joke with a date? They said, "I want to see how you react or something." >> Some famous joke with some guy. >> I think the podcast is over. I don't think I'm that interesting that we should continue. >> Thank you everybody for tuning on. By the way, like and subscribe. You know what? We have so many more views than subscribers. >> Like I don't tell people how when I meet with corporate sponsors, I don't tell them how many subscribers. I say, "You see this episode? 35,000 views. You see this Instagram video we have 17 million views." I don't talk about the subscribers because we're punching way above our weight class. So, you know what? I don't mind having the ego also of having a lot of subscribers. If you're watching, just subscribe as well. >> Yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Subscribe. >> Thank you. And subscribe to Bar channel. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much.