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Ready to roll?
>> Ready to rock and roll.
>> I'm excited today. Do you remember when
we first met? No.
>> I do. Can I paint the scene? It was the
Harris Casino, Atlantic City. There was
a Jewish business network.
>> I'm a Kabad rabbi in Atlantic City. The
guy who in charge, he told me, "Come
check it out." And I'm walking around
and I see a tall chair and a young kid
looking fellow sitting on top of the
chair like a like a mel.
>> Dude, you think it's not a throne? It's
like, who's this guy sitting on a
throne? And then I think you recognized
me.
>> I did recognize you.
>> And then I walked over to you and we
smooed and I said, "Yeah, yeah, good
energy. I like this guy."
>> Vice versa.
>> Okay.
>> Right back at you. Um, okay. So, let's
let's start. Welcome back to another
episode of the What It Takes Podcast. My
name is Tilly Krauss. Today, we're in a
new studio in Lakewood. We're here for
the day. Uh, our guest today, I'm very
excited. I want to introduce you to
Rabbi Araham Rapaort, otherwise known to
the rest of the world as Rabbi Raps.
Rabbi Raps is a congressional rabbi,
speaker, and content creator who's built
a massive digital presence. By the way,
if any of this is not true, feel free to
like let it with over 500,000 followers
across multiple platforms, bringing
Torah, meaning, and inspiration to
people in a way that feels real,
relevant, and human. Today, we're
talking about his journey from his
background and rabbitic path to stepping
into the world of social media, the
responsibility that comes with the
influence, and what he's learned about
leadership, impact, and staying
authentic in a very public space.
Whether you're a creator, leader, or
someone trying to figure out how to make
a difference in today's world, this
conversation has a lot to offer. Welcome
to the podcast.
>> Thank you. It's a pleasure to be on
board.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm
>> very right. Where did you get that from?
>> This is a mix of doing a lot of
research.
>> Me, my assistant, and AI.
>> I'm like, I got to meet this guy.
[music]
>> Let's take it back from the beginning.
You're Labavich.
>> Yeah. How did you end up? Where you
from? Where'd you grow up?
>> Atlantic City, New Jersey.
>> That's where you grew up.
>> 198 something, early 80s. My parents
were sent by the Lava Cherva to open a
kabat house in Atlantic City area.
>> So that's where you grew up.
>> I grew up there.
>> Didn't even grow up in Kron Heights.
>> No. And then I went to Lakewood. We're
in Lakewood right now. I am a Lakewood
success story.
>> They just haven't seen my name, my
picture on the wall there with all the
good, but I'm sure they're working on
it. They want to get a good shot, you
know.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, so you grew up in Atlantic City.
>> Yeah.
>> When did you become the rabbi there?
>> So I learned in Lakewood. I learned in
the Lava Shisha later on after my bar
mitzvah. I went on to South Africa as
they do. They send you around the world.
>> Who sends and who decides where?
>> So when you finish yeshiva, before you
do, and most people do in Kabad, you go
for one or two years somewhere. And
>> do you decide on your own? they sort of
look at you and they say where would we
be a good fit like the hat you know the
there's like a conversation between the
han hala and the different communities
so uh there was a yeshiva in South
Africa they needed certain type of
personalities and I made the cut and it
was a great year
>> so it's like a lot of puzzle piece
matching up
>> yeah yeah and we had we had one year to
really like work in a community you
transition from being a student to sort
of being like a leader in in a community
I ran the day camps there. And uh
>> so you're learning adulthood very young.
>> Yeah. But you're [clears throat] you're
put in I think it's very important.
You're put in a leadership position.
>> I love that.
>> And you and I think as a a religious
young religious Jew, it reframes
everything. Like when I was in yeshiva,
it was always us and what the rabbis
said, right? But then they put you in a
semi-position of leadership.
>> You're like, "What does you're the rabbi
saying?
>> Now what would I say?"
>> And it it's just a paradigm shift. I
think it was very powerful. And I think
a lot of kabad people even though they
don't go into the rabinet or they don't
become today not everyone does uh it's
very very important.
>> Yeah.
>> Not everybody becomes because they don't
want to or there's not enough room.
>> I think it's just to find the to find
the right place the right fit. It's not
it's not easy.
>> You get a letter in the mail saying
you're going to Australia or South
Africa.
>> No. Like you mean when you like
>> when you're going out. My family was
running the kabad and they needed help
and I came actually part-time to help in
Atlantic City and I ended up becoming
full-time Shia
>> here in Atlantic City.
>> Right. Exactly. You know what I had?
>> I had a film company. That's Yeah. That
the first thing I did
>> I did promotional videos for nonprofits.
>> How'd you you just bought a camera and
started playing around with it?
>> I loved creating content before content
was a thing. In all the overnight camps,
I was the guy who made the the videos.
All my bar mitzvah money. I got a
camcorder. Um I I love making videos and
like when I finished Yeshiva, I got
asked, "Oh, can you make a video for the
yeshiva?" And I did. And then another
organization called me and that that's
what I did for the first few years.
>> How do you start charging? Like were you
nervous to say?
>> I remember the first time I I charged
like real money. It was so exciting.
>> How much was it?
>> It was $2,000.
>> For what? for like and then and the
yeshiva that hired me was like that's
all because the going rate at that time
was the thousand dollars a minute of of
produced video
>> and I was like you know to me that was
you know it was
>> how much work was it what was the
project
>> it wasn't work I loved I love till today
I love creating it wasn't work
>> what was the project like
>> it was yeshiva and I went and
interviewed the the parents the rebies
the donors yeah that that's what it was
and I I told the story
>> you know And then I I became the guy who
did all the I traveled the world and
started telling the story of all these
uhim and they're amazing like where they
live and and what inspires them and and
I was like and and meanwhile I sort of
moved to Atlantic City to help my
parents part-time. They needed help
there. I was like I want to do this.
These are amazing people. when you say
help.
>> So the community needs um someone to run
a Hebrew school, run a day camp, uh run
Khaneka programs, you know, it's all
it's all production,
>> right?
>> So it's sort of like what I was doing
already.
>> I didn't grow up in that world, so I'm
I'm like curious to hear how that works.
Like is there a school there now?
>> No.
>> What happened?
>> There's no school. My I came to Lakewood
every day.
>> No, when when you were doing in Atlantic
City to help your parents, you said
>> Oh, no. There's a school on Sundays for
kids that are from to get a little bit
of
>> Judaism.
>> Got it. So, it wasn't really it was a
part-time thing. Your parents were also
doing it like
>> No, that's that's their that's their
life.
>> What does their day-to-day look like
>> now?
>> Yeah.
>> Um,
you run a community. You have uh
thousands of people who look at you as
their spiritual leader. Okay. And even
though they're not necessarily
religious, this one's has someone
getting married, someone passed away,
they need a rabbi, they they they're
need a barabat mitzvah. Um, we have
regular classes, adult education. And
today it's marketed very well done by
the JLI, the Jewish Learning Institute.
So most Kabat houses don't come up with
their own material. They're like they're
presenting very professional put
together classes. So I mean it's a full
and that's what I do right now. I run
the organization. My parents are very
involved, but like the day-to-day
running of the organiz, the fundraising,
the the events, that's what I do. That's
my full That's my real job. People know
me as Rabbi Rap.
>> No, it's your full-time job. Well, I
think everything is a real job,
>> right?
>> Um, when did that when did you get
married in all of this?
>> So,
>> start when did life start hitting you?
Like build a family?
>> I I graduate I gota everyone in Kabad
gets. It's like it's a right of passage.
>> Okay. But not everyone becomes a kabad
rabbi,
>> right?
>> I became I got smika the next day. I
rented a a a office in Brooklyn and I
opened my studio.
>> I remember my father was laughing. He
said, "I know you're going to do stuff."
I didn't realize the next day you
already rented a place. Boom.
>> Right. And I started studio. I started
creating uh promotional videos
specifically for the Jewish world.
>> Okay.
>> For the nonprofit.
>> And about a year and a half later, I got
married. Uh my wife Masha
from Florida, Miami Beach.
>> Okay.
>> One uh beach family to another beach
family.
>> Very much so.
>> I didn't hang out on the beach a lot.
Just
>> here. It's a little colder.
>> Yeah, it's a little colder.
>> Jersey.
>> And um we moved to Atlantic City and I
started helping my parents on the side
and that became my full-time position.
>> Well, your wife was open to moving to a
quiet town.
>> Yeah. Yeah. She liked it.
>> She's from Miami.
>> Miami Beach.
>> So, she's busy there.
>> Yeah. Well, we're very busy, too. We're
in a beach town. So, it's really not
Atlantic City. It's called Ventner. It's
a little beach town. Three, four months
a year. It's crazy busy. And the rest of
the year is just regular busy,
>> you know. Got it. And um your kids are
in Lakewood.
>> Lakewood.
>> And you go to veterary for shop?
>> I'm there every day.
>> Okay.
>> And uh
>> How many kids come to school?
>> So, we for eight years we drove every
day. Three, three and a half hours in
the car
>> total.
>> Yeah. So like an hour and a half each
way.
>> Yeah. And
>> sacrifice for I hope more people learn
like wow
>> it's the hardest part about being
everything about being a is fun and and
awesome. Of course there's challenges
but is the hardest thing and we have it
easy. We have Lakewood an hour and 15
minutes away. That's
>> describe challen like people living in
remote areas Nepal.
>> Oh food friends for their kids.
>> What about how how are the kids? There's
a lot of challenge but is the greatest
one.
>> So what are they doing for the around
the world?
>> So they have an amazing cutting edge
online school. We didn't do it because
it comes with a sacrifice. Your kids
don't have social. For us the sacrifice
was the driving. We'd rather they go to
Lakewood and they they had great um
>> Wow.
>> You know, friends and community.
>> Um
an hour and a I can't wrap my head
around that.
>> Yeah. But no, now we have a place in
Manchester and we we stay there stay got
>> a couple nights a week. I do the
schleing back and forth
>> still every day.
>> No, I don't come every day.
>> Um, what would you say is probably So in
the world people wouldn't look at you as
a rabbi.
>> Really?
>> I don't think so. You're not wearing the
becka
>> hat, you know, with the fur things going
with the silver umbrella stick.
>> Um, but what does your day-to-day look
like? Like what would you say is the
hardest part of your day-to-day?
>> I really enjoy what I do. I I got to
tell you. Um
it's it's uh Okay. So, every day I have
programs that I I have a school for
kids. I have programs
>> daily school or Sunday?
>> Sunday.
>> Okay.
>> I have um a teen program another day a
week and I have now a youth director
that takes care of that. I have adult
education.
I have um to I'm a fundraiser so I have
to run a whole organization and control
and and oversee a staff and that's a lot
of stress. We have several locations. We
have an old church that we bought. It's
a really cool building that's now a shul
and then a few years later we bought the
second one.
>> So we have two churches that are now
shuls.
>> Do you know Rabbi Schmuck from Arvim? Is
the name ever ring a bell?
>> Name rings a bell.
>> So Arm is an is an organization that
helps with teens at risk. Rabbi Schmol
very special man. He moved to Hillburn
which is near my small little town. He
also just bought a church that he's
going to convert into a shaw.
>> Yeah,
>> that was I I was there. 30 or 40 foot
ceilings, glass painted.
>> You have to understand why what's so
special.
>> It's over 100 years old that building.
>> The building's gorgeous by us. But more
>> if you want to open a I'm sure Lakewood
struggles with the zoning over here as
well. You want to open a school, you
want to open a Shaw, right?
>> You need a certain amount of parking
spaces. You need zoning. It's it could
be years before you get it and you may
not even get it.
>> If you buy a building that was already
used for prayer,
>> place of prayer
>> right now it's complicated.
>> What are the differences?
>> Because it's like um certain
denominations are more complicated for a
Jewish person to buy because of a visor.
I'm not going to get into that, but you
need to speak to Arav. In our case, it
worked out. It was an Episcopalian.
They're like the the reform of the
Catholicism movement. I don't know much
about that world. Wow. So I guess it
depends what type of church would be
okay for it to turn into
>> it's easier. It's less less complicated.
>> And once the sh is once the church is
bought to turn it to convert into a
shaw. What's the process then?
>> First we have to get rid of the shade.
I'm just kidding.
>> Um
>> go into the attic.
>> It was nothing. We took
>> pot and pan b.
>> We took down the the images that were
there and we put up mus.
>> That's it. Nothing else that um
>> in our case it was very simple. There
wasn't even much to change.
>> Right. Yeah.
>> But but we were able to just move into
the building and operate,
>> right?
>> I didn't even need a co.
>> It's a house of prayer.
>> Yeah. House of prayer to that. The way
the city looks at it. So if you try to
build a a yeshiva today, a shul, it's a
nightmare. It take years to get the
zoning. And
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>> That's beautiful.
>> No, but the the politicians, are they
nice? The zoning?
>> Wonderful. Yeah, we're very close with
the mayor, with the commissioners, with
the police chief, with the fire chief.
It's a little town and
>> Mr. Mr. politician over here.
>> Everyone No, I'm not a politician, but
like everyone gets along.
>> Do they call you also Rabbi Raps or
Abraham or Aram or Rabbi?
>> They call me Rabbi. Some of them follow
me online.
>> Okay.
>> So, I do get called Rabbi Raps. I got
pulled over by a police officer. Um, and
oh, Rabbi Raps. I was like, you follow
me? Yes, I see you on TikTok. I was
like, okay, does that mean I get a
ticket? He said, yeah. I'm kidding. I
didn't get a ticket.
>> Don't blast her here. He might get in
trouble. [laughter] Um, that's very
cool. Inner.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow. Um, when did social media happen?
>> So,
>> I think you're the only rabbi that does
social media.
>> There are others and for a while I might
have been the largest. There are others
that are doing really well and I'm
really proud of them and I think every
>> every know each other. You guys know
each other?
>> Yeah, I know most of the bigger Jewish
creators today. Uh, we've worked
together. But, okay. So what happens is
COVID hits. All right. I don't know what
happened in Lakewood or Muny, but we had
to close our shel uh for definitely a
couple weeks and I needed to connect
with my community. So I took out my
phone and I made a video of me locking
the shaw and a message of hope and I put
it on Facebook and I realized that I got
a lot of reaction. I never really made
content for myself before then. Um, and
I started making more videos for my
community and I got a lot of feedback, a
lot of emails, a lot of messages. And I
remember my sister who's much younger
than me said, you know, Facebook's for
old people.
So, uh, after I got over that,
[laughter]
um, I said, "What's in?" She said,
"Instagram." I didn't even have an
account, Instagram. So I said I realized
that this is so powerful social media
that you could create a video and speak
to people and then other people who
weren't in my community start asking
questions. I said I I have to understand
this better. Co I had a lot of time. I
decided to double down and understand
what is social media, what is the
algorithm, what works. Um and I started
really for my own community creating
content and then eventually it became uh
>> it's contagious. it became much bigger
than my community and and today thank
God I have the ability to speak to many
people and here
>> you study the algorithm can you share a
little bit about that like give me an
example
>> so the algorithm changes the algorithm
>> different platforms also
>> yeah the what worked uh five years ago
four years ago is not working today you
have to be on on top of it
>> um there were a there were like a lot of
things that people did that work that
don't necessarily work like today uh you
know like one of the tricks people did
that I blew up a lot of videos with. You
make a very short video
>> and um you you write something uh
controversial as a as a hook. Okay.
>> And then you write explain it in the
caption, right?
>> So I have a video that went viral where
I'm lighting a manora with a cigar. I
didn't plan it. I was at an event. So I
don't smoke cigars. Someone gave me I
looked at the minor. I was like, "Oh,
great idea." I took my camera bump.
Millions and millions of views went out.
Right. But that the the theory
behind why it worked was because the
video was 4 seconds and it says, "Can
you light a uh your cigar with a monora,
right?"
>> Yeah.
>> And then people like,
>> you know, they went in the captions and
I made sure to write a really long
caption and the video plays over, you
know, 20 times. Algorithm doesn't know
what's happening. There's a video. It's
being played by every person 20 times.
>> Is that your best performing piece of
content?
>> No. But today that doesn't work anymore.
It doesn't. the algorithm doesn't push
it anymore. They want actually long form
is short form was in for a while. Now
long form is giving is being given more
value. You have to
>> but but during co I had the time to
really understand it and and I realized
that the reason why there's uh Instagram
and Tik Tok in the world is so that
people could get closer to Judaism and
to God,
>> not even Jews specifically.
>> Yes. And that's my other project I
teach. uh the seven laws of Noah to
humanity called humans for Noah.
>> For those not listening, elaborate a
little bit about that.
>> So I have a new account. So I have two
different accounts, Rabbi Raps and then
I have a new account called uh humans
for Noah where I teach the seven laws of
of Noah to humanity. And of course the
the Jewish message is that you don't
have to convert. We don't we don't push
people to convert. Why? Hashem created
every person with a tapid with a
mission. A yid, a Jewish person connects
to God through the 613,
>> right,
>> mitzvah. And a non-Jewish person
fulfills their mission through the seven
>> nohide laws.
>> Noahhide laws. Noak is sadik. He walked
with Hashem,
>> right?
>> He was he was righteous in his
generation. So a non-Jewish person
should do that. Now, what hit me was I
get I get a lot of questions every day.
I get hundreds of messages. Very hard to
be on top of it. I have help for some of
it. Um, the most common question I get
is, "Rabbi, I want to convert. How do I
convert to Judaism?"
>> Okay?
>> And even as a house, once in a while,
people walk in and we always give the
same answer. You're good the way you
are. You don't have to convert. You
chase them away.
>> Okay?
>> That's what most people do. We have this
little card with seven laws we give them
here. The person looks at the card.
Okay? Don't commit adultery. I didn't do
that today. Don't kill. I didn't do that
today. Right? Right? And we send them
away. And I just realized like why am I
sending at this point thousands of
people away who are sincere. They've
left many different kinds of religion
and they're looking for something and
I'm sending them away with nothing. I
started to learn the labba the talks and
he spoke there's a whole book with all a
collection of how many times he spoke
about the importance of a Jewish person
teaching the non-Jewish person about the
seven laws of Noah
if you're in business you have employees
if you're traveling to go out of your
way to to inspire people about the seven
mitzvah and in my opinion it's not just
seven mitzvah but it's a lifestyle it's
a relationship with Hashem so I started
started a a new channel. Well, first of
all, I have a in my community a group of
people that are not Jewish. Um, it
started because I have a lot of women
who are married to non-Jewish people.
Their kids are yidden. They come to our
bro.
>> They have brisen. No,
>> they don't need to. It's not one of the
chevitzvas.
>> No, the children are yidden.
>> Today in America, most most hospitals
give
>> Yeah, it's not a brisk, but it's you
know,
>> if they want to do later, right? You
know, there's there's
>> delete that,
>> right? But no, today that in Russia
that's a thing. In Russia a lot of Bali
chuva have to get brisome.
>> Here it's less
>> because the hospitals don't do
>> no it's not
>> but here it's like normal.
>> Um but uh so I I got together all the
husbands and I said [laughter]
and a lot of them always want to
convert. I said you don't need to
convert. We started a class and now we
have a community.
>> But it's seven mitzvah. How elaborate
and how many classes do you need? It's
it's really 90s something mitzvah.
>> What?
>> Yeah. If you break it down
>> share.
>> Okay. So, one of them is not to worship
idols,
>> right?
>> Okay. So, what's the flip side of that?
To believe in Hashem,
>> right?
>> So, what's that mean? That means to have
moments where you are grateful. A
non-Jewish person could say maidani.
>> He has an isama that comes back every
morning to wake up in the morning and
say, "Myani, thank you God for my soul."
>> Right? So there's a there's a there's a
a concept of
>> whoa
>> they have an isama
>> every yeah right
>> so so so how do I connect with god a a a
could say on food
>> do they know their banana
>> no they have to choose they have to
choose they have to say I believed in
these laws and they have to and to do it
right they go in front of a bin yeah the
rambom writes a lot about this and they
say I
interesting. Okay,
>> this is but no one's doing anything.
We've not very few.
>> You're not doing that.
>> No, very few people.
>> So people asked the the lavage rabba,
why did you talk so much about Ben?
>> Okay.
>> And by the way, this has nothing to do
with business right now, but we'll get
into it.
>> Uh and he said because historically if a
Jew spoke to a non-Jew and told them how
to live their life, they would have
gotten killed. He says we live in a new
time.
So it's it's it's 90 mitzvah or more.
>> Wow.
It's fascinating.
>> But that this came out of creating
content for Jews. I I now realize that
>> getting a lot of feedback from
>> Wow. It's very interesting. You ever had
a piece of content that you were very
nervous to put out
>> Toyota related?
>> I was very nervous to put out content in
the beginning.
>> Why? Anti-semitism.
>> No. No. That's the best thing for the
algorithm. Um,
>> put a put a watermelon or a Palestinian
flag in the C. Boom.
>> Like they someone writes oftentimes,
"How come I get all this Jewish whatever
garbage, right?" I said, "Because you
can't comment on Jewish videos.
[laughter] The algorithm doesn't know
the difference. They send you." Right?
>> That makes sense,
>> right? Anti-semitism is horrible. It's
very concerning. But I don't delete it
generally. But in the beginning, how did
you get over the fear of putting content
up? Okay.
>> Torah related or Judaism related?
>> I was very concerned in the beginning. I
did I was very conscious on camera. Like
uh I I used to give great cl I thought
they were great classes, but you put a
camera up, I'd freeze up. Human nature.
I was I was afraid I'm going to say
something wrong.
>> It's normal.
>> And today I say things wrong every day.
[laughter]
>> It's very, very true.
>> And then I get on the camera and I have
a new piece of content. I said X and I
was wrong. This is the truth. So
>> I like that
>> authenticity.
>> That that's something helps people
appreciate authenticity
to be honest, to be vulnerable, not to
talk about all your successes, to talk
about your failures too,
>> right?
>> That's what people want.
And so
um it's something I had to grow into
personally.
>> What was it like in the beginning? Do
you feel like you weren't very
authentic?
>> I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure who I was
on camera.
>> And when did it evolve? When did you
realize, oh wow, I just need to be
myself and I'll be fine.
>> So what happened was I used to create
content and I was hoping my my community
once I decided to become Rabbi Raps,
right? I was worried my community is
going to say, "Oh, this rabbi is too
frivolous. He's too light. He's too and
maybe it's the wrong thing for me to
do." Okay.
>> So, like eventually I found out everyone
was following anyway. [laughter] But but
it was it was an interesting uh thing to
find to find to be able to speak
comfortably and honestly and you know
how you do it. You just make a lot of
videos
>> and then you're able to do it. It it's
not
>> if you turn on the camera the first
time, am I being too happy and I do
being too serious? Am I being You have
to just create a lot of content.
>> What do you do? Have you gotten hate?
>> Sure.
>> How do you deal with it?
>> I mean,
>> ignore in the beginning. It's hard.
Like,
>> what kind of hate are we talking about?
>> You tell me.
>> Well, there's anti-semitism.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. And then there's people who judge
what you say. I don't know. If you're a
person that's very worried about what
people say, you're not going to be a
very good content creator.
>> Fair. But in the beginning, were you
worried or like was it hard in the
beginning? Now you're used to it. I
think once once you find your
comfortable place and you're speaking
authentically
and uh you you're comfortable sharing
it, it doesn't make a difference what
people say. I mean, there's always going
to be people criticizing. There's a lot
of people live in a lot of fear. There a
lot of worried. A lot of people are
worried about what other people are
going to say.
>> Tell them to get a job.
>> Yeah. They're worried about what other
people think about them if and and the
truth is it's just living in a prison.
You know, we can't do that.
>> Now, I have a question. Growing up in a
more secluded ultraorththodox community,
we grew up stay in your lane, be in your
box,
>> try not to get influenced by other
cultures, other influences.
>> Today, that's changed
>> as an adult for me. No, not in the
culture. For me,
>> I've learned a little bit how to deal
with um let's say you live in a
neighborhood where you know the
neighbors are mixed. Some are similar to
you, some are not. Some are just
different cultures. Eden, not Eden. But
you grew up very much
in a world that's not even close to you.
Like now you're how many religious Jews
are there in your neighborhood?
>> Very few. Anyone who becomes from ends
up moving away. You can't really live
there. So h you have any advice how to
be able to be a light upon others,
influence [clears throat] others and not
get influenced you, your kids. How do
how do you deal with that?
So it is a real concern in the religious
world about the influences of the
outside world and I know there's a very
big movement to block away the world as
much as possible.
>> Um
>> if we do that, how can we be a light
upon the nations? I I personally have
not been raised that way.
>> This is what others are saying,
>> you know. I I have not been raised that
way. And I think that you we have to
create very confident
um uh children who love being Jewish,
who know who they are, and we cannot
hide the world from anyone anymore. Even
if we get everyone to sign contracts
that they there there's no internet in
their whole city or whatever it is
people will be exposed and unless we
have people who are confident who love
Yiddishkai who are proud of who they are
who know who they are that's where the
effort has to go of course we have to
protect our children and ourselves
>> advice for parents how to build up that
confidence and being proud of being a
Jew
>> I think Yiddish guide has to be joyful
I think that when We when our kids come
home it's not like why aren't you doing
this? It's like let's celebrate what you
are doing. I'm so proud of you. It's got
to be all love and joy.
>> You grew up like that.
>> I drew I grew up like that. Hiddes kite
was absolutely joyful for me.
>> I didn't.
>> Interesting.
>> Did you neither?
>> Yeah. You know
didn't grow up like you come home from
school go do your homework now. That's
what it was. It wasn't
>> how was your day?
>> Yeah. You had fun at recess. You played
with friends. What'd you learn?
>> Saying interesting stories by the
Shabasa table. Right. It wasn't like
that.
>> My Shabas table growing up was the most
entertaining, fun part of my week.
>> We were dying to go play with the toys
just to like leave.
>> Well, I you have to understand living in
Atlantic City, you have around your
table all different kind of people. You
have um you know secular couple, the
mom's Jewish, the kid's Jewish, and the
father's not Jewish sitting at your
table. You have a couple satim that are
in business and they needed a place to
stay because of the convention Saturday
night. Mat Shabas, they're sitting at
your table. You have some Israelis. you
have some right and then there was a guy
who was just let out of jail so he had
to go and he ended up at my shabas table
whatever it was
>> what's that like
>> and to sit sit there and to see how
everyone was brought together and my
parents always radiating that joy of
Yiddish like to me Yiddish has always
been just like
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>> How can you be sensitive to these other
cultures all at the same time at the
Shab's table? You have someone who the
husband's not Jewish, the wife Jewish,
and the wife and the child is. You have
you have someone who just left prison.
How can you like for me, I'd love to
have more guests.
>> I'm just and even to start doing maybe
care of one day. I'm just nervous of not
being able to answer questions. Well,
>> you don't have to answer questions.
>> What do I do? Why do you do
>> listen to questions?
>> You have to
>> you don't always have to have answers.
>> No, I don't have the answers all the
time. More important is to listen to the
question and validate the question. If
you have a kid that comes home with a
question,
tell them how that question is a great
question.
We love questions in Yiddish.
No, but back to your question. Do you
sing mirus when you have like people who
are not religious by the table?
>> Sure. We we had a lot of the English
songs that like you sing in camps you
know
>> or what?
>> Yeah. We would pass it around you know
my you know we love those songs.
>> His son lived in my neighborhood for a
while. Um what was his name?
>> Talas. Yeah. You know
>> he's a friend of mine. Yeah.
>> He's performed for us like at least
three or four times.
>> Great great nishama. So I think the the
the the answer is that it depends how we
look at another yid or another human
being. If I see someone as different
than me and I have to block them out
otherwise they might going to taint me
and my family. So then it's very hard to
sit around the table with people that
are different. But if we really know the
truth the truth is everyone is a nama
a spark of hashem as the says every
single yid has a
and it's not just words. If you really
believe it
and you sit around a group of people,
it's the most beautiful thing in the
world. Despite their differences,
everyone's connected. And if you see
them that way, if you see your kids that
way, not at what they're doing and the
mistakes that we're we have been
designed to make mistakes. We're
designed to We have a Yates. When we see
someone make a mistake, we jump across
the table says, "Look what you're
doing." That's notesh. You know what a
kadesh is?
is when we look at a person's
overcoming a struggle, doing the right
thing despite the darkness, despite the
ego, despite the loneliness, despite the
confusion and and the kid comes and and
does something right, you jump across
the table and give them a hug and you
say, "Wow, you are amazing." Because
that's to do an aa we were wired from
day one to do averis. Why are we so
excited about a ver? Why does that, you
know, get people yelling and screaming,
you know? So, and and we have to bring
this all back to social media because I
know why I'm you you want me here
because you want to talk about
>> realistic questions. We're getting
there.
>> Okay. But let's talk about social media.
And this is something I believe in very
deeply. Every person
has a tough has a purpose in this world.
Every single person the universe has
been waiting since the beginning of time
since Adamarish
for Tali to come and walk this earth.
Yes.
>> Okay.
>> Because you have a set of skills and and
and gifts from Hashem
that give you your mission in this
world.
Your business is holy.
It's not a means to an end. What you do,
you're you're recruiting and bringing
people together. That's part of your
toughkit in this world and everyone has
that and I feel that the beautiful thing
about social media is it gives people
the opportunity
to find what that is and share it with
the world
>> versus non-conventional ways like just
moving on about day-to-day life.
>> I think so many people aren't successful
in life because they don't think they
have something special to give to the
world. I think so many people don't feel
comfortable sitting in your podcast
because they think that they have
nothing to offer. And it's so not true.
Everyone does. And there's a fear.
There's a fear that's holding us all
back. There are people that could make a
lot more money and they're simply not
making the money because they don't
believe they deserve it or they they
can. And it's such a shame because
there's no such thing as a person who's
here by mistake. Hashem doesn't make
mistakes.
To find my purpose, my gift, and use it
to change the world, to make the world a
better place. It's a combination of my
my toyra and my mitzvah, but my talents
and my abilities. The things that have
happened to me, even the bad things, can
be used as fuel to make this world
better. And where I find myself right
now, those four four circles where they
converge
is my toughkit.
And I think that it's so important for
people to do to to believe in
themselves.
There are voices in the heads of the
most successful people that are playing.
They don't even hear them, but they
playing. And they're voices of
mediocrity, voices of hopelessness,
voices of victimhood, voices that we
heard from teachers, from parents, from
friends, right?
>> And they stop us. To find who I am is
the greatest gift in the world. But to
believe that I am one of a kind.
And when you find that, you could create
content and you could really fulfill,
you could live very meaningfully. It's
not easy though. How would you recommend
somebody start?
>> First, first first believe it.
>> Did you believe it right away or you
started believing it once you started
seeing how it took off and how you can
reach people in a certain way? Cuz what
was your goal when you started?
>> I'll tell you, I I was always a creative
person
growing up as a kid. I sang as a
teenager. I made albums. I made music. I
was a creative person.
>> Sing.
>> I don't know if I sing, but uh
>> Do other people think that you sing? Um,
not I'm not a singer per se, especially
now with my cold. You know, by the way,
you know, every kazin after they get
down, they tell you I had a cold, right?
Does every podcast say, "I have a cold."
I've never had a kazin come to my show,
do an a awesome performance. I'm like,
that was great. It's like, yeah, but
>> I'm recovering.
>> I was on a plane two days ago.
But um I think for me personally was to
find to have the confidence
to communicate my my authentic
vision and view on Yiddish and how all
that comes the confidence to say it to
live it and not to be worried what about
what every ism within Yiddish thinks
about am I doing it like this that
>> I was very worried about that. I think I
lived in in in a um in a very restricted
um version of myself for a long time. I
kind of feel that social media for me
has allowed me to um fully step into
what I believe my gifts are to share
share with the world.
>> You know, it's interesting. I think as
from Jews we grow up with this
um what's the what's the English word
for mida
>> um
>> characteristic
>> characteristic attribute
>> we we have this attribute or
characteristics of of bashfulness of
bisha busha being
>> embarrassment
>> I don't know if it's embarrassment being
shy
>> now some people have it less than others
but what I've noticed in theish world
it's more prevalent where people are
afraid to get out there. For example, I
have a team of recruiters. We have about
10 recruiters on the team. One of the
things we do is on boarding say we
recommend getting a headsh shot. Just
like real estate brokers have their
faces on every bus stop. Get a headshot.
We'll put on the website. They'll put on
your business cards. Put on LinkedIn,
right? Give people an opportunity to
build trust with your profile and get to
know you eventually and see if you're
the right fit, if you can help them or
not. They don't even want to do that.
They don't want to put their face out
there. They think New York Times is
going to do a whole write up and plast
them on the front page. I'm like, that's
not happening. is that's very very
common.
>> Would you agree, Jimmy?
>> Would you say it's a false sense of
modesty?
>> Where does that come from? I don't I
don't
>> It's a You know what?
>> Yeah.
>> False sense of sneeze. But I see it also
by the by the men, not just women.
>> Mhm.
>> They like, "Oh, I don't want to be on
camera. I don't I'm embarrassed."
>> Right.
>> But off camera, they're very confident
people. Just they're very nervous of a
camera lens, photo, video, whatever it
is.
>> Any advice for putting themselves out
there and getting over that hurdle?
Um, that's a good question. I, you know,
I think it's a a lot of soulsearching
and you just got to do it
>> with content also. You just got to do
it.
>> But then you you don't realize it can
affect people have this like
>> like, oh, you're on social media. Ah,
sorry. That shows something. A lot of
education needs to be. So,
>> I don't know. I I just don't see the
world that way. I think there's nothing
more um uh nothing more honest and more
beautiful than a person who is confident
and knows who they are and is is
comfortable sharing with it. And I I'll
say that as a person that was not
comfortable for a very long time.
>> But you are creative. You're creative.
>> I know. [clears throat] But I was always
worried. I'm the rabbi in the shul.
>> You have to have a how how does a rabbi
what box do I have to fit in to make
everyone happy so I'm going to be a good
rabbi? I really struggled with that and
and for me creating content which really
just happened organically and I realized
the importance of it over the years has
allowed me to be I believe a much better
um schlak and communicator and give
shirim because people appreciate
somebody who's not reading a script
>> 100%
>> and that's why chatbt
is so cool now but soon everyone's could
smell it and it's not going to help you
as much. You still need the nama
>> 100%.
>> Right? So imagine living in a society
that everything's scripted. It's such a
shame.
Hashem didn't make copies of people.
We're not copies. We're so authentic.
Every person is so
>> to step into that is is not easy, but
it's a a goal worthwhile pursuing.
>> Very well said. Also like it's very
similar. I think it's a very good skill
to have just like public speaking is a
good skill to have.
>> Yeah.
>> Being comfortable creating content is a
very
>> but public speaking doesn't just happen.
Some people have more of a talent but
the more you do it.
>> But you got to practice. You got to
>> more do it the better you are. You got
to do it
>> right.
>> So content is very important today for
businesses.
>> Um
>> you put your kids in your content. Is
that something that you used to be
nervous about? Like people say inhara
what's the English word for that?
>> Um yeah evil eye.
>> Evil eye. Yeah. I I never thought of it
as I and her.
>> Um,
>> but putting your kids, you have a
massive following.
>> There's a real concern. Look, I've
gotten real threats against me and my
family. I have my own person in the FBI.
I have death threats. I have pictures in
my house with with the craziest things
tagged on my Look, it's real. It's not
not real,
>> but
>> would you feel comfortable talking about
that rather than
>> if you want to, it's not important,
>> right? Okay. But
there the people the reason why people
have problems with their children online
um could be various things. One is you
just said um what did you just say? Uh
>> evil eye.
>> Evil eye. I don't know. I I don't
>> Okay. Superstition.
>> I haven't heard that. That's
superstitious. Um the other concern is
uh that there are predators out there.
Um it's definitely a concern,
>> right? And that's why we have
conversations. And a lot of people come
to my kids and be like, "I know you."
And and and they'll say, "I saw you did
this and that." That doesn't mean they
know you,
>> right?
>> They don't know you. Half a million
people know you. Like, and my kids know
that. Uh I don't know. My wife and I
spoke about it. We've even been
contacted by people. So, you have to be
careful. We don't understand the the
concern. We take precautions. We never
post where we are if we're on vacation,
>> right? Um, we uh always post uh a week
later. I was just in Panama. Great
experience.
>> I only posted after I left.
>> Okay.
>> I don't want people to think my kids are
somewhere home alone by themselves.
Right.
>> So people don't you have to take
precautions, but I personally am not
concerned about it.
>> Going back to creating content, when did
you realize like, oh wow, this is really
hitting a lot of people?
>> I remember when when I was just reaching
a thousand people in a video and I was
like, this is amazing. I could prepare a
class in my community, have 30 people
sit around the table, and I could walk
away feeling like a million dollars. But
one second, I just created a piece of
content that reached a thousand people.
And then I realized there's so many
people that would never walk into a
shul.
I said, how could I not use this
to inspire people, to connect people? By
the way, the labavba used to be on cable
television.
That was the internet of its time. It
was considered to be the most like unf
from thing you could possibly. But there
are people whose lives have changed
because one day they were scanning
through the channels through all the
garbage,
>> right?
>> And all of a sudden the holy face of it
was there and there was a message that
spoke to them and them and their
children and their grandchildrens their
lives are not the same. Now the Reb
didn't want us labavatur to have
televisions in our house. we didn't
but the tool was used there to to reach
people
>> and um and that's why I think in social
media we have to be careful for my my
kids don't have s social media but we as
adults we could use it for whatever
we're trying to accomplish whether it's
business or Judaism.
>> Um I have two more questions I think
before we finish. Um, by the way, have
you spoken to other about creating
content?
>> Sure.
>> Like you're the impact you're having is
tremendous.
>> I I I uh counsel counsel I I give advice
to all the time and more and more are
using it and they're doing a great job
and and they don't need to become a a
worldrenowned name. That's not
important. but within their community
and and and and I tell the more
important than giving a devar to don't
give dvar toas. It's the worst content
you could do.
This week's para says next. Don't do
that. Hey,
>> right. You need a good hook. You got to
get Show them how you're cleaning your
house for Pesak.
Show them how you're setting your your
your Shabas table. How you how you light
putting the candles so you light your
wife could light the shabas and bring
the holiness of chabas. Show them your
life. No one ever became because of the
dvarta. Never happened. But someone
comes and sits at your shabas table and
they see your children and what they
learned and how they respect their
parents and how the siblings get along
and they say this is beautiful. So my
advice to to people is don't don't teach
Tyra online. I mean you could do that
too. I have classes I do. Show Yiddish
guide show real life. Show
relationships. Show the way you you see
the world you react. Give your
perspective on things. Yeah. And a lot
of them are doing a great job. I'm very
impressed.
>> That's amazing. Have you have you have
you ever thought like have you built
this audience and been able to monetize
it in any way? I do monetize it a very
little bit because there's a certain
amount that comes in
>> even sponsorships or
>> I do very little of it and the simple
reason is I don't have the time it I
have a organization I run I have a job
full-time job um I have a big budget to
to to focus on I can't think about
earning a livelihood on it.
>> Wow. Um I think before the last question
is what advice would you give for
someone who wants to create content? Now
I know you create a tremendous amount of
content
>> but you have figured out a way to
prevent doom scrolling.
>> Yeah.
>> So I want to talk about that also
because it's so easy like the platforms
were literally built to keep you on
there as long as possible till 3 4:00 in
the morning. Boom boom scrolling and got
a headache
>> and you can't work the next day. You
can't be there for your family.
>> You wasted time. Yeah.
>> Um, yeah. And it's very hard because
it's meant it's addictive. It's very
hard.
>> Very addictive.
>> My system now is um and I know you have
people helping you create your content.
I have um editor. I have someone who I
have programs that I post to. I don't do
it anymore. Someone posts to goes to
seven different platforms. Uh
>> what about the engagement commenting and
responding?
>> I set aside time to engage with the
questions. I get a lot of real questions
and I need to give people direction. Um,
but I set aside time for it and I try to
be as intentional about it as possible.
I have a half hour. My goal is to answer
whatever 30, 40 messages, whatever it
is. Certain amount of messages are
answered by other people at this point.
>> Okay.
>> Um,
>> like DMs or comments or both?
>> They're DMs. Yeah, comments I don't
always respond to.
>> It's a lot.
>> Yeah, it's a it's a respon, but a DM is
someone that went out of the way to
message me directly. And a lot of times
there are serious questions. Uh I I set
aside time and I try to be intentional
about it. And once in a while I find
myself wasting time and and it just you
have to be very careful.
>> How do you get out of that like
>> just you have to get out? You have to
just that's it, you know. But I find
because I'm not on the app so much, I
don't do it as much.
>> What about the creative side of it?
Coming up with ideas for content like
like you said, right? Hook. Whatever
worked a few years ago doesn't work
anymore. Understanding the algorithm.
Someone who wants to start creating
content today. So for platform they
start so for me personally what I found
is
>> I'm not I'm not a script writer.
>> Uh and that works for a lot of people.
Uh the way I I see it everything is
content. Whatever you're doing there's a
message there.
>> But you know that now did you know that?
>> So in the beginning I used to tell
stories and devartas and they were good
but eventually you realize everything is
>> that took practice. You realize
>> yeah. So someone starting today, they're
not going to realize that building a
channel,
>> start creating. So start with scripts if
you have to start creating. Um and uh
and make yourself a goal, three pieces
of content a day.
>> I know it sounds like a lot.
>> Are you doing that?
>> No,
>> that's my goal. Yeah.
>> Wow. It's a lot of content.
>> Yeah, because your your people don't see
your the algorithm only shows 5% of your
people.
>> The recording the content takes you how
long?
>> Second. Do you have a list of ideas?
>> No studios. I'm not good with lists.
>> No, but ideas. If you have a good idea
while you're sitting in the shower,
>> don't do it while you're in the shower.
That that'll get a lot of clicks. But
>> about writing it down. Do you don't have
a running list?
>> Is the best time by the way.
Unbelievable. Dates could do.
>> Oh, it's crazy.
>> It's the best business concepts coming.
>> And you business tip number 73. Dive in
a lot. Unbelievable. a lot and have a
notepad next to you.
>> Yeah.
>> Unbel Unbelievable.
>> Yeah.
>> Um but you don't have a running list of
creative ideas that you come up with.
>> No, I do. I have a a notepad. I write it
down.
>> Oh,
>> yeah. Absolutely. But I'm more of like
an on this fly type of person.
>> I love it.
>> Um it works for me, but other people are
a lot more like, you know,
>> boxy and organ like prepared.
>> Right. Right. That there's different
styles.
>> 100%.
>> Yeah. But the main thing is start first
of all protect yourself. protect
yourself from social media because it's
not healthy.
>> So, set up a system that works. Get
someone else to get programs that'll
Number two is um figure out what is your
message.
Is it for your business? Is it because
something you want to share to the
world? Work on that. It's going to
evolve. You won't just have the answer.
>> And number three, the most important
thing, just create. Create. Keep on
creating and you'll it'll it'll it'll
all find its way out of you.
>> Love that.
>> Yeah.
>> And I wish you a lot of a lot of
success.
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