RUSSELL SIMMONS x ORTHODOX JEW on KANYE WEST saga.

introduce yourself and tell us why you wanted to talk to me so badly sure and I want to elaborate on why I think it's so important to talk to you sure so first of all I do want to offer my condolences um you know to take off and his family and his friends and his followers and everyone and you know God should bless him that you should rest in peace and the family should only have good news revealed good revealed good from here on out and and uh you know your your pain is our pain we're not two communities we're one Community we're one community um on one planet serving one God and uh and we're all together so you know why why I wanted to talk to you so much is I've been following what you've been doing and um I just find that your message is so spot-on and it's a rare message and you said something the other day that you know we can't just cancel people we have to talk with them my rabbi his name is also known as he was arguably the the the the one of the greatest rabbis that ever lived every every generation has a leader every generation has a Moses and he was the Moses of Our Generation and there was riots one time in Crown Heights where he lived and the mayor of New York reached out to him and his whole concept was don't call people anti-semites because that only creates more anti-Semitism when you label them at their worst than this oh I'm an anti-semite so I might as well act like it but instead find commonalities find Common Ground take leaders from the Jewish Community the black community and put them together in dialogue and what resonated with your message so much that you just knew this so intuitively and I said hey here's a guy that gets it and I've Been Under Fire too a little bit because I've been preaching this message let's reach out let's let's collaborate let's grow and I just felt like our messages were symbiotic well that's refreshing I wanted to do an interview you and get your thoughts on on not not my strategy or the strategy that we operated with with the foundation path make understanding for so many years which you have just said you agree with I mean of course there comes a time where we have to walk away from people but it's for me as a yogi it's a it takes a lot for me to give up on people condemning messages is easy condemning people in my opinion go down because at the bed it promotes in them and if they're very famous the millions of fans it's about in them an anger and a resentment and we want the tens of millions of fans to promote love and endude love and therefore to lead up of those fans should feel love and see a way out of the of the the conflict if it is that that is not um humiliating right but not putting them in the corner so that's that's an interesting thing now you said also I I noticed I didn't know you felt this way but I did know you said this you posted Kanye dang um about Jewish business there are two things that I thought was interesting uh he was jealous of Jewish religious uh community and tell us why or what did you post yeah so there was there was one time I was outside my synagogue and there was a whole bunch of black guys hanging out you know on the stoop and I I didn't grow up religious I grew up completely not religious and I always I really vibed with the you know Black Culture I loved rap I love Kanye you know to all my people who be drug deal and just to give like I love that stuff I love Jay-Z I grew up on the Beastie Boys I grew up on all your stuff that you put out and um so I always connected with the black community even when it became religious so I remember there was a bunch of black guys hanging out my synagogue and I was bored and the door wasn't open so I was I went to go talk to them I'm like yo what's up how you doing we spoke for 20 minutes by the end of the conversation we realized that we're both human and they said to me no offense but we know that y'all own and run everything and I'm like no offense take it you know you know I I think I take it as a compliment you know I don't know why everyone gets hot and heavy when they say that Jews are good in business you know thank God we are going to business I think one of the reasons why we're going to business a a Torah Jew a Jew that tries to do his best by God is honest gives charity never wants to wrong anybody one of the Ten Commandments is thou shall not steal not because somebody's going to find out you're going to go to jail but because God doesn't like stealing so Jewish people are go to business and I think that the core why we've been good to business for so long is because we try to do business the way that God wants us to do business and if there are some Jewish people in Hollywood that are not doing business the way that it should be done well then we pray for them and that's not a Jew at his best and we pray that you know a Jew does it does his best and we pray that they come back to uh to really what the essence of the of of what a Torah Jew is what a Bible what a Bible believing Jew is well you know I'm always Under Fire uh from the black community uh and from the Jewish Community look you're taking you're you're taking a strong position um and I want him to be a leader and so I mean uh what do you feel about them did by now should I have condemned him by now I condemned his words countless times but but him you know I felt there was some redeeming qualities that need to be expressed and also he's willing to Pew successful black men who can make a difference in our communities I mean although a little crazy and his future doesn't have to be to end here and his potential and value to the community shouldn't end here yes my opinion but that's my opinion and God knows that I'm going to express what he puts on my heart and nothing else that's my opinion so go ahead finish the question go ahead I don't even have a I'm just saying that's been the reason I've been uh in some cases under attack and so take it take it from me an Orthodox Jewish person who does his best what God wants him to do at the at the at essence of Judaism is something called teshuva which in Hebrew means returning a person was made you know we know about the the the tree of knowledge when people ate from the Tree of knowledge when Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of knowledge they were given an evil inclination and sometimes it's a battle it goes on inside of us you remember the cartoons you have the angel over here and you have the devil over here and the cartoonish sort of choosing which one so some people choose the devil more often than they choose the angel and we have to encourage we have to encourage people we shouldn't highlight their negative but we should rather highlight their positive and when we highlight their positive we actually bring that out of them so should you have condemned Kanye until now no I think you did exactly the right thing what you wrote to him was hey come over here to me in Bali let's work this thing out let's figure this thing out I saw that I liked it and um you know let's roll and let's make peace and you know what I hope he's watching this right now and I want to tell you that I believe that you are a good person deep down inside not even so deep you're a good dude and um and in one second a person could do chuva in one second a person could do the right thing it's very funny because uh listening to you and I Know It exists everywhere because it comes out of your mouth and from the Torah but in the yoga sutras the one second I start with one second a person could become enlightened and be full fully in service of God and live an enlightened or in samadhi or taqwa or what they call Christ Consciousness or there's many names to it but this could happen in one second but also the yogi uh is looking to accept all of these things but always evolving and when we push it right when we give good we grow and we continue to grow as a process by doing good by receiving good and giving more good and education about who we are and what our highest self is calling us to do is not something that's as common outside of your religious community outside of a good Muslim the good Christian the good Buddhist the good yoke aren't they good not to mean others are bad but those who are practicing their faith yeah those who are trying to practice their faith and are returning and also wouldn't have community that reminds them to come back over and over again to God yeah yeah because you can leave God in the whole Community can drag you the wrong way or you can come to God in the whole Community could drag you towards God so this is the yogic uh principle but it is not only Krishna said whether you know me as Christian or not has no bearings on whether you come to me just the same as I would say to all the children of Abraham uh share one God as crystal clear that Muhammad Abraham Jesus in my mind as the yogi I would say they were wanting to say that they came as messages for God to bring us back to God and goodness 100 it's about those who are practices what we preach or if we preach it at least we're remembering to remember this goodness in us and maybe that will help us accordingly you know you're you're poetic you should be like in the entertainment business or something always away from the stage let me ask you a question is Yogi is that associated with Buddhism or no the yogic scripture is said to come long before all of the scriptures sorry to say it's okay it's okay I like to learn by the way that's what who's first or whatever but there's no timeline on it and the bhagavad-gita most famous book where Krishna teaches Arjuna yoga Lord Krishna come to uh to well Arjuna goes to Krishna and ask him for help in a battle and so does his cousin so then battling cousins two kingdoms anyway Krishna in the bhagavad-gita is the Chariot tribe while the cousin asked Krishna for the Army and the cousin and the Army are lined up it is Arjuna the warrior and Krishna is a chariot driver at a much smaller Army and their armies are lined up and before the trumpet blows Krishna teaches Arjuna yoga this is the most famous book in India the bhagavad-gita everyone is taught is meant to read if it's not a Hindu book although it's a Hindu book because Krishna is teaching Arjuna but in the yoga Sutra there is no uh there are no deities or anything of the life it's just a science book to bring you to God in the science book yoga sutras there are eight limbs that uh the same as what's etched in all the scriptures and in our heart so when you read them Mike when you read the Torah it rings a bell right something comes out you read it you're like oh I know that's true when you read the Bible you say oh I know that's true the Quran you know oh because in your heart it's already written right so that's why we uh the fundamental uh practice of yoga is to bring one to their highest self nice Jesus said behold the kingdom is inside you but this idea that God's words uh it's great to come through a prophet but he's reminding you of your your truth so that's that's uh you don't know that Yoga Yoga Muslim sign it's a yogic science to be referred to um the School of yogic Science by the way if you're looking for a Jewish business partner in the yogi school I'm looking for Investments you know I like what you said by the way before I get to that point I want to let you know that yoga got me through the pandemic it really relaxed me in a time of stress yeah it really got me through some really hard times and um but it's a beautiful it's a beautiful exercise you know I was listening to one of your lives that you did and you said something you said um when you know in Hollywood you said the white people didn't give us a chance they wouldn't talk to us the Jewish guys would answer our calls they would do business with us okay maybe their contracts were a little bit harder you know than the other guys but at the end of the day they did business with us no I think you missed my point I said that in not only in Hollywood but in all of the instances it ended up being Jews who answered the call and in Hollywood um the Jews who answered the calls didn't worry about the boundaries in the music industry the Jews got the records on the radio the WASP didn't like it he said why'd I get these Jews in the business they're getting black people on the radio and so I said about the contract I said well you know if the Jew was the only one in town he made a decent deal right because he made a deal based on what was available and the WASP were not helping black artists that's so interesting the Jews did so you know in many cases the Jews brought the buildings a little cheaper because the Washington won them and if the blacks could afford them they would have owned them so in the cases where Jews own buildings or or applications where Jews are successful and in all the industries that I've seen that Jews are very successful in they got in those industry because the WASP let them get in interesting right they couldn't be in fashion because their names could never carry a brand yeah lip could never be the brand no I agree don't became a brand so mostly they were to make it some good and watch and put their names on the goods and sell those clothes but the Jews were in the back making the clothes they don't go for the for the fashion Revolution that I helped promote a few years back there were the backbone in you know many I said this before and many many licenses and jewelries and bags and belts and underwear all separate companies and and leather goods when I was looking for veganisms that all the goods were made separately by separate Jewish families and businesses for my fat bomb experience and so same with Rocket Man and uh the other 15 or 20 giant Brands you know Sean company Sean Diddy's company all of them every clothing company that exploded in the back making the clothes wear the juice well that is our experience so of course by the way and in the front it was a great in the front was a black woman or a black man making it cool yeah well you know it's it's a good partnership we we have a a moment here where there's a lot to collaborate on because blacks have numbers mostly Jews vote with us almost all Jews sure those who make priority out of Israel so much so that they cannot vote for a progressive agenda I understand but then I meet with them they're all Progressive but they really want to protect so they think that that's the route to protect Israel so there's some and mostly Orthodox and more religious Jews but most of American Jews vote exactly the same way as black people and they vote for the empowerment of underserved communities enable so obviously if they're in Congress they're they're liberal right anybody when we had the Jewish Congress and the black Congress meet uh every month as part of my my duty at the chairman the foundation for ethnic understanding we had black and Jewish Congress meet and push agendas all the time there was a unified front the black and Jewish Congress it's so interesting difference between the black Congress the Jewish Congress is that many people who were successful were voting against their interests but again but for their interests if it was the good of humanity so they I believe that as a I mean maybe that's my silliness but I believe equal high quality education equal high quality health care I believe in giving people a leg up in a community where the rich are getting so much richer and the poor getting so much poorer so I think mostly the Democratic agenda serves that and so the Jewish caucus were all Democrats right then that would just that's just the reality and to the dismay of some religious Jews who wanted them to uh to choose Israel overall and not worry about the American agenda so anyway I just want to tell you that piece of history and share that with you because it seems worth sharing thank you for sharing you know Martin Luther King what's that I I didn't get enough of you a club promoter I was the best nightclub promoter that you ever saw the best the best you wanted to you wanted to be on my parties so I was the first person I I did business with Drake before he was Drizzy and he and if he's watching this I want to I want to thank you for that Drake it was a good night I was the first person to bring Drake to Montreal for a concert and at the time he wasn't going by Drake he was going by Aubry from the show Degrassi and we paid him four thousand bucks to come to Montreal today he's probably four million to sneeze at you know my son's Bar Mitzvah um but but we paid him four thousand bucks and I was in that mil year I was in that I was in that that life and I remember I was making reality show about my life at that point Drake is in the is in the show by the way you could you could watch it just Google Orthodox after this after this and uh I remember I made a reality show because the Kardashians were becoming very cool back then and they were like really spearheading they were spearheading it's all coming actually now that I'm saying it it's all coming full circle and Facebook had just come out so I made this reality show and I went to go launch it at um at this nightclub in Montreal called 1234. and I saw myself on the screen and I stood for drugs sex and rock and roll I didn't have God in my life and I said to myself I saw myself on the screen I said what the hell am I doing what am I promoting what am I leading my community towards who is in that nightclub 1500 young Jewish people and I was promoting to them drug sex and rock and roll and I hated what I was standing for and I left my party I snuck out the back door I didn't say anything to anybody and I said to myself I better figure out a new way to live I learned about Christianity I learned about I learned I I read the Quran I I practiced Buddhism for six months I didn't talk I took a vow of silence I I read all the books Siddhartha I was so into all this and and I was looking for Redemption I was looking for I was looking for God one day my mother says to me you know we also have a religion it's called Judaism maybe you should check it out and I walked to synagogue and it was delicious and God is so sweet today you know I have so many friends and unfortunately are still caught up in that life but today I have four beautiful children I have one on the way um I have a beautiful wife a beautiful family two beautiful businesses and beautiful friends like you and and I think what has kept me on that path is God God is my track it was such a pleasure meeting you and I and you too and here today you're sharing with me when I went to your Instagram page before this interview I mean we're going to talk that interview and I said you know and I thought enough faith in our conversation I could share it and I'm very glad I'm sharing it because again a lot of uh uh black people in America don't know any Jews and I want to say this uh because the threat of anti-Semitism is you know scary first people hurt people and I don't say this then I'm going to talk about the black community but you know I heard people hurt people and so the 11 or 13 million Jews in the world the whole world um and sixth main on Israel uh a very very successful and very very coveted and very threatened to some degree if they're practicing Jews they remember what happened yesterday get threatened and so this is why I think that they lash out uh uh against anyone who would say things that would create hate for them uh they're very afraid can you speak to the fear in the community and the reaction because it's the same as when you think about the bigger picture in Israel I mean can we promote love and give things and work on developing a better relationship with the Palestinians or do we have to have our bridges and our walls up you know and is it one or the other it's not a combination of what what do you think about the reaction from the community I I for one uh was very disturbed by the Kyrie Irving uh response because I think it was a tweet that no one had ever heard of and a movie that no one had ever heard of and I thought that I'd known about this I would have gone to him personally and said here's why people are offended and Kyrie Irving who was uh also a person who shares uh something uh love of all religions even in the way you expressed it and seeing the sameness in the prophet's words and he talks about that regularly so for a person who loves all religions I think it would have been easy to have that conversation behind the scenes rather than having so many people now up in arms about his uh public discussion or even humiliation so I think the way forward to fight anti-Semitism is education because when people understand like when I said the number of Jews and the reason they feel the way you know another excuse bad behavior excuse it it it explains just that nothing explains bad behavior it is but it explains um what we have to be sensitive to the police talk on that subject you will I'm trusted so I so by the way on the fact that most you know black people or people in general never even met a Jew um vice versa most Jewish people don't have black friends you're like my third black friend um I hope you had more but when you ran the club did you have black people in the club yeah so yeah they're in the club I can't say I can't say that we're at buddies but that when I was working with with you know the rappers and I was working with the celebrities they were all black and and that was I mean I lost touch with them since then um but really I'm just following you know I'm just following his words he told us go out I researched when this whole thing happened when the spit hit the fan I researched the whole thing and our rabbis tell us that go build Bridges so that's what I that's why I reached out to you and to the fear I think that one of the things that our communities share in common I don't want to say communities I want to say community or one Community under God one were one people is that we have both suffered persecution most recently the blacks were slaves in the United States and that's going to leave a mark and the Jews were also slaves in Egypt and we also suffered persecution in Europe so I think like you mentioned mentioned a few times hurt people hurt people we have the same we have that in common and I think that if you touch somebody's scab if somebody has regular skin and you touch it it's not going to hurt but if somebody has a wound and you touch it it's going to hurt a lot and I think that's what we share in common I heard Jay-Z say recently listen to this really smart I love hope by the way the best Jay-Z if you're watching this I love you buddy um he said something really smart he said that in the in in the hood people used to when they would drive by each other they would always say what are you looking at what are you looking at and that that would start a fight what are you looking at and he said what they were really trying to say was don't look at my pain don't look at my hurt what are you looking at stop looking at my pain and my hurt so I think that reaction that Jewish people have when somebody comes out and says says that Jews are good to business or Jews run this industry we're hurt we're scared it's touching an open wound what are you looking at meaning don't look there we don't we're hurt and I think that going forward as the as the meshiach has the Messiah is coming closer God willing which we believe as Jews we believe that the world is only getting better we don't believe that it's getting worse we believe that the best is yet to come this is beautiful what I spelled a dialogue uh first privately and talk about the future of black Jewish relations the black community and I for my specific uh experiences uh more that has been empowered by its relationship with with Jews in many times for business certainly my jewelry my my passion my film my television my financial service my like all those companies I was Partners would choose I've said this multiple times and you know and I owned you know my plot you know from 51 of the bank or if it was 100 or 80 of that bomb if it was whatever it was you know my companies and I had Partners who helped to enable me and made money as helping me make money and it was fantastic in everything right relationship and none today would say that we had a bad experience all would say we had a great experience I'm talking about 70 licenses so in the past so but in all these companies I was empowered but I think that this should be at much towards greater empowerment uh and greater partnership in other words the Jews have some power we should not deny that there's some success in the community and some of those successes help to move policy and process uh you know and so blacks have great power in their numbers oh yeah they were voting one way you know then they make a big difference so how we vote is equally as powerful as how uh the success of businesses can move uh our government so between us we can make the government become more compassionate and that's mostly the agenda of the Jewish Congressman that we've worked with all the time we work with every Jewish Congressman as part of our black Jewish Coalition in Washington so we can work together in more ways just as that dialogue between the black caucus uh which were way more black congressman and across the Jewish were not that many but to put them together to vote a like to work together and to push agendas forward that help people that's something we can do for sure it's already happening naturally but what can we do about empowerment and building out communities you know there's a lot of um availability of land and there's a lot of opportunity in business that could be shared and built the numbers versus the power sometimes the finance I was lucky enough to learn to finance myself but to finance of great ideas that happen and the Partnerships a great idea that happened in America from cultural experiences with the black community success of the cultural icons the the funding of all the businesses that they're starting the growth of all the businesses that the black community is finally becoming entrepreneurs when I was a kid we're an entrepreneur you know and and even on local uh stores and businesses were not run by us in many cases I'd give you a piece of History the integration of the black community was the destruction of the economics of the black community the minute we let in white people whether they were Jews or white or anything else that was the end of the black doctor the black pharmacist the black everything all those things disappeared because of integration and and also in some ways a lack of self-love because we would pick the black dentist and I mean the Jewish dentist so there's a lot we America put a hurting on us um uh I think some cases I would say that the Jews have taken advantage of the color of their skin to some degree and they're like second class of oh I don't get in trouble but controversial I'll stay with a second class white people am I wrong when I say that because they're white and perhaps in part because they're white they were able to take what was given to them the crumbs that were thrown to them by the wasp and accelerate in all the businesses that they were allowed to get into and they accelerated not only when you look at the numbers before 400. uh and the blacks are underperforming but growing slightly and the Jews over performing The Boss can look at you and say oh my God her Jew they have so so so much more successful than we are you put those things together their causes the hate that we have to fight against there is the reasoning the success of the community is the reasoning so be careful by that careful about the way people speak about it if that's if that's what you're saying and because they've been threatened for being successful but there's no reason not to try and continue to build so I'm saying that there must be some number of bridges that we can cross that will empower the black community and also help protect and empower the Jewish community and that's what I think the future of the black Jewish relation Summit and results black intellectual Jewish intellectuals uh those who care about the future of humanity in general uh we have a common enemy those white supremacy and there's no question that that the people who hate Jews also hate black people yeah good point good point you know you mentioned something about choosing the black you know choosing the Jewish dentist or I think one of the reasons why um white Jewish people are successful is and you know everybody that's going to be cutting this up on uh on Tick Tock and reels get ready because I'm about to drop a nugget okay [Music] well you know I can't be canceled again no no it's not that type of nugget don't worry it's a good nugget it's a good nugget I think one of the reasons why um Jewish people are successful there's a Yiddish word fargin it means to be happy for another person's success and we help each other because we believe that at our core we are the same meaning the same Force the same power that powers me that's making my heart tick and that's making my lungs breathe and that's making my mind work that same electricity that magic Godly Force it's the same Force that's in the person sitting next to me so when he does good I do good when he hurts I hurt so I think that's one of the reasons why we're successful is because we try to move as one and encourage each other and be happy for each other's success you know I have my one of my business partners he comes from a community not the black community he comes from a different minority and he tells me that his community wants to kill each other when they're successful they try to kill each other they're not happy and what happens is they they don't move as one it's like a row boat it's like a row boat if everybody's rowing in a different direction it's just going to go in circles but if everyone's rowing in the same direction at the same speed row row row row you're going to take off that was something and the brief conversation I had with you before I took to I had faith enough to start this dialogue because I'm going to start it and you know and the rabbis will you know they'll only choose the highest and most if you start this thing but okay you are and I really am I really deeply appreciating uh what just you're teaching you said something in our conversation about what you teach your children yeah about the Bible in the world and business and that was really interesting about about um survival versus stealing I I took it in but I was almost going to bed last night so tell me what you said about that because it sounded so melodic and beautiful oh thank you the message by the way I like you I like you Uncle rush we should hang up more often I'm coming I'm coming to Bali I'm coming to Bali to come out this can I see it by the way for one secondly religious place in other words when I say religious as a yogi we practice meditation daily we do yoga daily I love this yeah we sing to God in the Canton so you will enjoy the experience I'm ready let's go I'm not as flexible as you I can't cross my legs like that but it's certainly kosher because we're vegan let's go let's go tell me what you taught what you teach children so we have a Bible and growth great question so we have a book it's called the gemara it's almost a thousand years old you know that's another when this whole thing started coming out and people are saying Jews run you know Jews run the world and Jews run industry and Jews run all these things I just put I put out a few videos like oh don't be anti-semitic the hate on those videos was so rough and then I said you know what let me change my tune let me study what a rabbi say about anti-semitism so I said I made a video called 10 Jewish business secrets that video got two million views within six days I never had anything go that Viral thousands thousands of people shared it people from all walks of life thank you for sharing these secrets foreign but uh it went viral so the first thing in there which is the thing that you're referring to Erica Mara teaches us thousand year old wisdom that every person has a commandment in Hebrew it's called the Mitzvah every person has a commandment to teach their son and to teach their children how to make a living because if you don't teach your children how to make a living it's as if you're teaching them how to steal because they will not be able to earn a living any other way but stealing and people saying they shared your video yeah that's cool three times already on the screen that's cool that's cool so so you know when I just it's actually coupled with um you have to teach your child how to swim a a a man has a responsible why because the water is dangerous and if you don't teach your son how to swim he's going to go into that water and he's going to drown and if you could extrapolate those lessons we have to take care of our children the most important thing I'm going to drop another nugget you ready you ready it's a kosher nugget don't worry don't worry it's okay it's a kosher nugget the most important thing to our faith to the Jewish people is our children we sit with our kids we teach our kids we we love our kids we teach them right from wrong good from bad straight and we try our best to teach them good morals and good principles and one of those things is we teach our kids how to make a living and it's imbued it's imbutaness the real question is okay here's where we might get a little bit of trouble why do Jews like money so much that's the that's the real question and the answer is simple can I go for it can I go okay this shit's gonna get us in trouble but continue it's not going to get us a joke it's good why do Jews like money so much is because we look at money not for the physicality of it but for the spirituality of it when a Jew makes go ahead say it again say something to you everything you say yeah that comes from the Quran and from the teachings uh is written in stone in the yogic scripture well it is Rich Stone in the Christian uh Bible it is written in stone uh those who meditate deep and sit under a tree and have Transmissions from God those ideas come out of their mouth because they're here yeah so I know that I know you know that there's nothing unique about the teaching of Abraham or Muhammad or Lord Buddha or Jesus they are all one and this I want to say again because Krishna said it very clearly in the bhagavad-gita and it rings the bell to me from his mouth but from all the mouths of the prophets the same words and ideas wow so let me I I have to go to yoga students and we have to continue sure um I I you were saying about teaching your son yes the fish and to be successful because if not you're teaching him this deal yes that's a pretty powerful statement um so what Kanye said which one I don't know how that could have picked anybody up I think you've shared that I saw that him saying that I thought again now there's so much stuff hate and other stuff and it's such a divisive world there's so much polarization but he said that he was jealous I don't think that he met jealous of the Jewish community in general or all of it but jealous of the religious Jewish community so if you as an orthodox Jew who is a practicing Orthodox Jew all the things he say you go home with your family and Sabbath you take care of your children your family you you uh are dedicated to God and the things that was promoted to you you use them so again for him you know he's uh uh you know abortion is not something that you do right so you kind of get along with Kanye in that regard so he wants our community to have some of the same principles and I think that's the noble thing and I certainly as I gotten older you know sometimes you as a hip-hop person and I've been out of music business over 20 years longer than at least over 20 years and I've always you know promoted hip-hop Summits but empowerment and Summit but promotion of non-violence and you know educational about politics I've always been that activist he always skated around and we tell people uh as a black entrepreneur I'm able to tell people tell the South Central Cartel what do you mean by that they go rewrite their lyric they'd be they would blame the frustration you say people expressed it what's in the the environment but can you explain how you feel about it sort of now uplifting and instructive versus just so it is up to us to change the culture to the extent that each individual has the power to do so to move the culture towards a more God-fearing culture and that is something that you know as I get older I cannot deny that and I've always you know known again that we are responsible for our brothers and therefore we can uh instruct the loss of this uh rapper and the loss of so many rappers over the last uh six months or two years or you know it is astounding but it is a direct reflection to the loss of life in all the community from which they come and we have to turn this around and I think uh one thing I'll ask you before you leave there are non-bonds programs in all the communities uh and Tamika Mowry who was also a great great black leader who was accused of anti-Semitism but is anything but anti-semite but she's strong enough to still love communities even if they attack her Tamika Bowery is a very good system she posted I've noticed just before we got on about those organizations you know if you find in your heart people finding their heart look to those organizations to donate because in New York of course the mayor uh de Blasio and now Eric Adams are very dedicated to those programs because they are strong non-violence programs and they are very successful we want to do things to promote non-violence and uplift our community and those programs exist and we had 50 what at least in 25 cities we had in America programs that RushCard helped to promote with Captain Dennis Muhammad Oh Oh Captain Destiny's trying to get what always asking for something I wish Captain Dennis Muhammad is uh talking about uh his program on my text I was speaking 25 programs that I worked with him on that when non-bonds programs that were very very successful and they were depending on local uh community support and the Mayors and the cities that should be pushed uh have the funding and can make a difference so we either push the governmental Assistance programs to help them or donate ourselves to all these programs anyway that's what you say that but I have to go to yoga I'm five minutes late I got to get on my student go to class go ahead pleasure talking to you you too man great a great pleasure and a surprise and I see you have quite a few followers so that's good you will help get a message of love and Reconciliation and Bridge Building and when we work together I hope you will work with me rather on the the stomach that I want to put together of the future of black Jewish relations Mr Simmons I stand behind you 100 because I see the good that you're look that you're doing this world and uh I'm happy to be a vehicle to help bridge that community and get you access to whoever you need speaking as you're speaking Fat Joe was texting back to the the text that Captain Dennis said send me the link and I'll send you the money yeah um uh that you're sharing with uh Fat Joe and I would share it uh Captain Dennis so that we can uh have people donate to the peacekeepers which is the program you have thank you so much and I'm I'm really uh lucky that I never look on people's DMs I didn't even get DMS obviously I just saw you said for your people to text me so we could talk until after yesterday we're talking and I think that uh we're gonna have a great friendship and do a lot of bro absolutely so shout out to Fat Joe by the way if DJ Khaled is watching I always get that I look like the Jewish DJ Khaled and uh anyways it was really it was really nice to meet you God bless you everything you do I'm behind your initiatives 100 you call me message me whatever it is you need and let's get this train back on the tracks and let's build and let's build because we have we've done a lot of good together and there's so much the the future is very very bright with God's help God bless you you too my brother go to class okay be well take care