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Zoran Meani just got elected as the
frontr runner of the Democratic party in
New York City for mayor and this is
extremely extremely distressing and I
brought on here Rabbi Simmon Jacobson to
enlighten us what does this mean for
jewelry in New York City which is the
largest Jewish community outside of
Israel.
Okay, thank you for having me, Barl. And
it's always an honor to be with you. So,
I live in New York City. Let's just make
that clear. So, I'm not talking from a
distance. I'm right here at ground zero,
center of things.
Um, you said it's extremely extremely
distressing. I would say to some, not to
all of us, I don't find it distressing.
I find it troublesome.
But keep in mind, I speak as a Jew right
now. A Jew that is a son of Jews that
have been on this earth almost for 4,000
years, starting with Arainu, Abraham.
And despite all odds, here we still are
long after all the elected officials
from Nimrod to Pharaoh all the way down
to Nvader
to Saddam Hussein to Hitler, you name
it. we've survived them all. So though
uh we always want to have a candidate
that represents our cause, meaning
pro-Israel, pro-Jewish, pro- our values,
an individual like this has been labeled
as an anti-semite, anti-Israel,
supporting our enemies, refuses to call
the the October 7th um an atrocity. um
calls Israel as being the perpetrator.
So, of course, that's not someone would
like to be an elected official, but I
just have to step back as a coming again
as a Jew, as a student of the Reb. You
know, God runs the world and we will
survive it all. I don't know whether
he'll become elected as mayor, but I see
it as a few things. Number one, a wakeup
call. You know, sometimes it's good to
know who who's out there, who's voting
for whom. I'd rather know that there are
protesters that are anti-Israel on the
campuses rather than keeping it secret.
So maybe this is has that positive side
that we at least know who our enemies
are and what they stand for. Um, and
maybe it'll be a wakeup call for people
who don't recognize that we have threats
around us. you know, just as October 7th
was a wakeup call, just as Israel just
as u did its operation in Iran
recognizing what Iran is standing for.
So though I'm not happy with per se him
being nominated um for the Democratic
party, but I think we have to step back
and look at the bigger picture and
definitely not be afraid. We have been
protected by God and we still have to
use our political clout and everything
we can to get the officials we want. But
I I think it's not good to ring our
hands and just say, "Oh, you know what?
We're victims to the latest uh this
latest election." Just as we have people
in the Senate and in other bodies of
government that are not pro-Israel, I
have to also say, you know, I'm good
friends with President Javar Malay of
Argentina who's extremely pro-Israel and
pro-Jewish. And maybe this is important
to know the contrast. That's my first
reaction.
Is it time for Jews in New York to start
looking for a different home?
As I mentioned, I'm a student and a
dedicated student of the labb.
I grew up in Crown Heights when when
there was the urbanization and as you
probably know the civil rights movement
that changed the complexion of all
downtown cities, you know, New York,
Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland. And the
white people ran to the suburbs or other
places. And the Reb refused to leave
Crown Heights even though Brownsville
and their surrounding areas were falling
and turning into slums. and he stood his
ground and said, "We're not going
anywhere." He said the same thing to the
Jewish community in South Africa when
they were under threat. And of course to
Israel itself, you know, Israel today is
a strong country, but many people, it's
50, 60 years ago, six day war said, "We
have to run. So we're not runners. We're
not going anywhere. We will deal with
what we have. If somebody wants to leave
New York for other reasons, whatever
it's their livelihoods or they want to
move to Israel, by all means, but we
don't run out of fear. And I have to add
this, you know, or Miami. Or Miami or
Miami. Yeah. Um um my parents were
Russianborn. They came from Russia after
World War II. Even in the former Soviet
Union, we did not just run. It came a
point where it was simply not tolerable
to live there. And of course, we know
Nazi Europe was similar. But I would not
embrace an approach of let's run because
who knows who's going to become the
elected official
and that's just simply not a we we can't
be victims like that. We can't live in
fear and and retreat. We have to stand
our ground and do what we have to do. I
also want to I want to just maybe
contextualize it. The idea of the stark
terms, us versus them, is something that
I think we're not living in that world
any longer. I know they're
anti-semmites, don't get me wrong. I
lock my doors. I'm prudent. I'm
practical. I don't think I'm naive. But
I think we have to understand we're not
living in a world where where I went
through 1991 the summer there was a
program in Crown Heights when Yakov
Yankl Rosenbomb was killed. Cold-blooded
murder. So I've seen it with my own
eyes. But I think we also for ourselves
and for our children, we can't be living
in this fear. Of course, when missiles
are shooting at us, you go into a
shelter, you protect yourself. But
overall, I think we have to be proud.
We're proud Jews and proud New Yorkers
and do our part. And um and listen,
maybe it's a good time to rally and try
to get the right candidate to win the
mayoral election. It's not things are
not doom and gloom despite what
happened. So, I mentioned this to you
before our live recording that I feel
that this election of this mayor, God
forbid, if he gets into power,
is a big middle finger to the Jewish
community of New York. Meaning, what did
he really run on this guy? What is his
platform? His platform is ridiculous. He
wants to make groceries run by the
government and just crazy socialistic
uh pretextes. And this person, I think
that his main quality that people liked
about him was his anti-Jewish,
anti-Israel
sentiment.
And I feel that this is a big middle
finger to the Jewish community from
local New Yorkers. And that hurts
knowing that that was, you know, these
are your neighbors, your friends, your
employers, your employees, your your
mailman,
um your waiters, your waitresses, your
whatever it is, and how do you as a New
Yorker hold your head high knowing that
your neighbor voted for this?
Okay. Um I believe 43% I think if I saw
the numbers correctly, 43% of the
population of New York voted for him.
You could see what regions. So I I I I
always think in these terms, not just
how I feel about it, but what am I going
to do about it? Because you know, it's
always it comes down to actions. I could
be angry, resentful, look at my
neighbors with more suspicion. But as
Jews, I think we have to always ask,
what are we going to do about it? Mhm.
So, so let's say this. I'd like
interested to me to know how many of
those 43% were Jewish. How many Jewish
supporters does he have? That would be
even more painful, right? They they say
30% of Jews voted for him, which I have
a hard time believing, by the way. No,
at the ex at the exit polls, they don't
ask you, "Are you Jewish?" Do you know
what I mean? So, I have a hard time I
have a hard time believing that.
Okay, it's possible because remember New
York always votes liberal, always votes
Democratic no matter what, at least for
the last few decades. So here, so here's
my thing. Even if I I'm upset at people
voting that way, um I step back and I
say to myself, okay, what do we do about
this? So there's a few things. Uh Jewish
New Yorkers are quite powerful. They're
wealthy. Um maybe they have to mobilize
and figure out what are responses. maybe
stand maybe unite behind a candidate
that supports Jewish interests or in
general interests that are not that
left-wing and that liberal and that
radical. You see, but when you say they,
okay, we always want they to do it, you
whether you admit it or not or realize
it or not are an extremely influential
person in New York.
I happen to be an influential person in
New York based on my social media. And
the question is is what when you say
what are we going to do about it? It's
you and I and the other people that hold
influence whether it's in their social
media or whether it's in their money or
whether it's in their whatever they're
we are collectively responsible to do
this. So the question is what are we
going to not they because okay good
point. Well taken. I got it. The point's
well taken. I was speaking about they. I
meant we actually. Okay. But I meant
they I meant to say the collective
Jewish population in New York. So look,
that's why we're on this program right
now because you encourage me. I think
it's timely. I think it's important to
speak up and I hope every every Jew,
every decent human being for that
matter, especially every New Yorker
listens to this. So let's talk. we um
we're using this platform right now to
talk about it very openly. I am
suggesting not just to ignore it as if
it's some meaningless event. I just
think to myself that number one, we
should not be driven by fear or by
retreat or by escaping. On the contrary,
we should mobilize ourselves which means
everyone who this bothers and should be
talking to each other. uh whether it's
people of wealth, of other influence,
whether it's communication influence,
whether it's thought leaders and so on
and say, you know, we can't be
complacent. Look what happens when you
get complacent. 43% is not even half of
the city. and Einstein is the Democratic
party, but maybe we have to make sure
that everybody comes out to the general
election and stand behind a candidate
united so we don't splinter uh the the
vote, a candidate that fits what we feel
a New York deserves. And when I say New
York, I don't just mean for Jews. I mean
for all New Yorkers that the world
deserves. New York is a central city,
one of the biggest cities in the world,
if not the biggest in influence.
and use and again not to be apathetic or
complacent. That's number one. Number
two, maybe we have to start asking
ourselves why are 30% of Jews voting
this way if that number indeed is
correct. Interesting. Why are Jews
marching against Israel on campuses?
What have we done wrong? What's the
education that we're giving? You know, I
understand Israel is not a perfect
country. Neither am I. Neither are you.
Nobody's perfect. But there are certain
value system and maybe this is just a
tremendous indicator. I mentioned before
a wakeup call of what are our children?
I just was speaking to a woman who's
crying on the phone that both her
daughters are pro Palestinian,
anti-Israel. She said, "What did I do
wrong?" I was always a pro-Israel,
pro-Jewish. And so we started speaking
and she told me, she said, "I never
really gave my children a Jewish
education. Their Jewish identity was all
about anti-semitism. It was not about
pride." So yeah and they got influenced
by professors or by whatever ideologies
that are prevalent you know social media
etc. So there are many things that we
look at. It's a critical point. I'd like
to quote my monities. He says when
something happens, he talks about a
catastrophe, a tragedy. When something
happens that is uh in the world that is
troublesome, it would be insensitive for
us to ignore it and just say it's
random, just happened. We have to wake
up. We have to soularch introspection.
So to me, that's what it comes down to.
things that we can do both directly or
indirectly. Directly obviously political
influence, financial influence, PR, you
know, there's a big information war
going out there as you know and I feel
that's what you and I are both on that
in that side of the battle because
people are being uh brainwashed. There's
a lot of propaganda. I speak to people I
see it's ignorance. It's ignorance that
and being misled by very deliberately in
a very um insiduous way by our enemies,
PR, uh all kinds of propaganda. So that
we can make a list of items and I think
it's definitely a good opportunity.
That's why we're speaking literally the
election was just yesterday, last night
essentially, uh to to to begin to stop
reacting but becoming proactive. Mhm.
So, plan A is rally around a candidate.
I happen to like Mayor Adams. Um,
rally around the candidate. Great. Plan
B, God forbid. Spit hits the fan. Okay.
And this guy, Yamak Shimo, gets elected.
What then?
Look, um,
remember every elected official is not a
dictator. There is a there's a city
council. There are other forces at work.
You know, sometimes
we're in the opposition, the minority.
You have to do what you have to do then
and rally behind those that can oppose
any policies that he implements that
would be destructive or negative. Um he
has four