The Niggun Within | Eitan Katz | Backstage with Benny

Oh my hat. Welcome, welcome back, welcome back backstage to the backstage with Benny show. First of all, before we continue, I want to say thank you to everyone who is watching the shows, who is commenting, who is sending compliments. Oh, thank you so much for the compliments MK and Ephes sending suggestions, ideas, uh some uh criticism. Uh we really appreciate it. Keep on watching. Keep on sharing it with your friends. Keep on singing along. How are you? You having fun? Oh yeah. Today we have a very special guest, a worldrenowned composer, singer, singer, songwriter, musician. PLEASE WELCOME ETON CATS. Eton Cats is here. A boy Sai. Hey Benny. Welcome. Welcome Eton. Thank you so much for joining us over here backstage. >> My pleasure. Thanks for having me. >> Oh, my pleasure. First of all, before we do anything at all, we have to give like told that dollar is yours. You can do with it as you please. >> Oh man. >> Got to get out of See, giving duck is not easy. You have to get out of the out of the way of the microphone. Oh, my guitar is going to fall now. It's going to be an amazing show. >> Hashem, how are you? >> You know, I was thinking like Benny is not busy enough. He needs to have a podcast also. Like let's I I might have an hour a month available. So, you know, so bless you. >> Amen. First of all, I appreciate it that the is right back on your head. >> Amen. Um the Reba told once to Adinstein Adin Evan Isro the the rabbi sent a letter asking the rebba he has I don't know four or five projects in projects real big serious projects and he's and it's too overwhelming and he wants to know of these five projects or whatever it was which of these can he can he cut out from his from his plan because he push it he has no time and he has no it's too overwhelming and he And did the ever responded to him that he should not get rid of any of them. He should do all of them. In fact, >> he should add >> he should add a sixth project. >> I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that. That's Yeah. >> So, this is what it's all about. It's all about uh you know the podcast producer calls you and goes, "We're filming." Uh you go, "I can't I have no time." You do it anyway because some mashia is coming and mashia is going to come and we're going to go why didn't we do more why didn't we do more what we were we were tired we were busy we were we were we were lazy we were on I don't know whatever whatever reason it was we're going to kick ourselves so we got aar because it's now or >> now >> now those are the options >> item we're holding now there's a few composers in who have the distinction of having songs that are push synonymous withash with yum kipper with el with tish with chuva and you are among them. Huh. So first of all what did you do to be z to such a a special position in the in the in the annals of klis when when when this what is it called the safer of will be written will be lean cats niggon ean cats that's I mean >> what did I do I mean by my upshare and I finish that that's maybe what >> that everyone does the There's no real way to answer that question. You know, you just do, you know, Hashem is mad that that it should be the way it is and and you you just have to completely immerse yourself in gratitude and and you know, just and and then when you're done with gratitude, more gratitude because that's the only way to to make sense of anything. And you know it's it's just such a especially like during this time you know you get a lot of uh content sent sent your way of of of people singing your nigunim and different you know from you know you know soldiers on the on the border of Syria singing you know lean to you know day school in I don't know in Alaska of kids singing the elenigan and it's like it's like I And to feel unworthy is like an understatement you know like who am I and etc. And that's why the only answer is just gratitude and and you know accept the fact that Hashem gave you know a certain you know and and just don't let it get to your head in any way shape or form and just continue to be po you know that's it. >> What else is there to do? So you have new you have a you have a new uh Rashashana song that uh that you're going to debut now here on the show. If you want to make up a song right now for for Rashashim Kipper. I won't be the one who stops you. Thank you. I've always I've always tried you know when when I've been asked you know what the process of composing is. It's it it's never composing for a certain purpose like oh this will be really good if I do this if I do that. It's like almost the exact opposite like whatever comes through it comes through and if the time is right and if the if the if the words fit and if it sounds like a a special thing you know like that's what it's going to be. >> You want to try it? >> Try what? composing live with you. Yeah. >> Can you do you do the words? >> Does that help? No. >> One second. You like those words? They mean anything to you? >> Yes, they do. >> No. I mean, >> no. 100%. I just like cover a Sing together. change already. Now it's your turn. Teach me. Teach me how to do it. I don't know. I don't know how to do this. Of course, I started on the benny key, which means, you know, there's E minor, G minor, F minor, Benny minor, right? Which is like, you know. >> All right, one more time. Take over. Day long. There are Long time I die I I die I How does it go? That's what I do. How do you do it? How do you do it? Okay, we'll work on it. We'll work on it. Cuz that what happens is the most natural way is you do that. >> Yeah. >> And then you kind of like >> That low part is gorgeous. I don't know what happened right now. That's That's pretty nice. >> Yeah. And and then he just you say gratitude, you know. Wow. And now let me just completely immerse myself in the meaning of the words. What does it mean of we're not talking about like the bad cover. Just let let our fellow Jews walk around with their head up. >> Yeah. A little bit of dignity. >> Dignity, right? Just dignity. They shouldn't they shouldn't worry about about anything right but they should have just like you know dignity is I need I need one word above dignity like >> this like internal to feel proud of waking up in the morning and going to sleep at night taking care of their family doing the right thing >> I just heard from >> yes >> that the futas used to say or always said or said once I don't know that a niggan is like a blanket. A niggan is not a bowl of soup. I'm now I'm I'm vamping over here. A niggan is not a bowl of soup or or a or a hot coffee that you put it inside and suddenly you're warm. No, a niggan is a blanket. You put it on. >> It takes some time. It takes some time till you warm up. You go sing the song and next next song. No, next song. Sing on Negan for a half hour. Then the Negan warms you up. Can't just go like this. Boom. Boom. And expect Andiggan to affect you in 2 minutes. >> 100%. >> Today in pop music, every song is, oh, if it's more than three and a half minutes, it's too long. Ah, relax. Anigan should take >> half an hour, 45 minutes. You go in >> and and you let it >> you let it change you. You let it warm you up. Takes time. >> I couldn't agree with you more. >> Some of the albums that that people listen to the most, >> Yeah. >> are albums that people thought no one's going to listen to them. I can't give you an example, but I'm sure it exists. >> I can give you an example. Every single one of my albums, I was 100% sure that nobody's going to listen to. And that's like I've learned to accept that that's just part of the maka of being an artist that, you know, as a composer, as a as you know, the the I do a lot for my albums. You know, I produce them, I I record them, I play guitar, I sing. So I'm like super like almost not almost usually way too much connected to it emotionally and I sit on it for so long and then it's like okay here >> you know like I hope you like it you know it's like our standouts you know sixth one let's go you know that's >> so if I can I want to give you a compliment if you are like self-producing you compose you produce produce you you record, you play, you sing. I know I know I know a lot of people some people for sure I know personally who produce and record and do everything and they're they're they're like paralyzed by I know I I I it's not ready. It's not ready. It's not and they never put it out. So it's a it's a we should continue. >> Amen. Clalis needs it appreciates it and on behalf of all we bless you to continue but before we move on we have to sing lea because if we do a podcast with cast we don't sing la unless we want to do something aesh we not sing lana I don't Oh. Oh. Hello. you. I say the same and I Yeah, I need the same. 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When you check out and we will see you with your beautiful Lula Vaness this Yumptig shopper.com. But now let's talk about historically who are your musical uh influences from your childhood musical. >> How do you know it's not like this >> musical? >> My father >> we my father you know he's he's he's a he is a wonderful kazin and we had >> your I'm sorry your musical influence is Kazonus. >> No not really. I'm just saying he was a he's a cousin, right? >> More of like a beloved fer cousin. >> Oh, okay. >> Um, and he he kind of set the tone in the house, always playing by the piano and always singing and music. I there was a lot of music, but I I I remember I remember, you know, in my in the early years, I remember um P London, London School of Jewish Music. I mean, just like the happiest music in the world. I just remember always being happy listening to listening to them. >> And >> what song? What song? >> So, it's funny. The songs that I remember for some reason people don't know. I think maybe it's from a later album or something. I don't know. But I mean all the classics. >> I might not know it, but maybe. >> Give me a a C major over there. A G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G G I don't know I go mash Wow. >> That kind of stuff. Oh man. You know what I'm saying? Happy happy music. That that was the album in the house a lot >> and and then um I mean the Vegas was huge in my house. We used to listen to the albums at the Vegas. >> What songs come to mind? There's one uh a A minor maybe E minor. E minor. >> You know this one. >> I'm such words when it comes to Vegas as well. Whatever. But the classics the that set the tone for like a warm heart. You know what I'm saying? When it comes to you know Jewish music. And then >> let's do what key >> A minor. Are you sure my bless Bless our soul behind. la. A little bit. I know that how we That's how we know we came from the same place. down. >> Yes. >> One time I was singing with Aan Freda and we'll get to Aan Fred is the next name on that list of just push like just just my my whole just growing up with with him >> and the on the first Kabad album that I heard from him. I think it was after whatever those so he sings on the album. I just I'm obsessed with these albums. I listened to every single I remember the whole album by heart the cones the arrangements. >> So I did it mish like as if I was just singing it. I didn't even and he looked at me like that and I was like I literally feel like I there's nothing better than this right now. I feel like I'm in heaven. You know I made that little approval. Yeah. >> But I used to sit I used to sit you know when when when came out. >> Yeah. I mean, just like I can cry. I could literally tear up from just like the like such a wonderful great album and I used to sit there with a tape and one tape recorder and I used to have another tape recorder with a blank tape in it and I used to press record I used to press play and play the songs and record and I used to record myself singing harmonies with it and then I used to listen to that and play it back. You know that that was my that >> what song what song on brings you brought you to tears at that time is made you made you cry a second not cry I mean like emotionally you just get so excited from the the gmack of it I don't mean cry you know >> umi is on that album right >> uh kashim shani is like one of my all that was like the main onea D. I can do this all day. >> But I have one question. I have one Shiloh. He does a harmony in that song. I can't tell if he's just saying weird words or actually words. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. >> Yes. What is he saying? >> What he's saying? >> Yeah. >> Benny, you're changing my life. >> I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying. And also, by the way, somebody told me that he was in the studio when Yasi and and and uh Aram Fried were recording, I guess, back vocals and uh I think Yasi wanted to go, they scream. And I think that AML was like, why are we screaming? And and said, no, no, no. This is what people are going to remember. And >> and I and I and I have it in mind in the studio. >> You need to always do something that I this remember. >> Yeah. >> V. Where are we? Yeah. And so those albums were I I sang with when when I was in living in Artist Stro at the time as a kid. I was in a choir in Ranana where I grew up. You know, Yanka Leotner, does that name ring a bell? He was like the the choir leader of you know the from you know scene in Israel. >> Gon is nodding his head. Oh yeah. Yes. I was in his choir and whenever Aramid would come to Israel we would you know be on the side there singing with him. So I was in that choir. >> One second. So if you watch the videos or if I if I watch the videos of Afreed performing. >> There is a video kids choir. >> There's a kids choir. There is a video online. I checked >> with the with the cover on the on the stage. >> It was outdoors. >> Yeah. Alo it was it was an Aloy concert through the night until Alo >> and it's it's I don't remember what it's called and but there's a huge kids choir. >> Yeah, I think I've seen it. You're there. >> I'm there in the >> Go check it out. >> Falling asleep. Yeah, we can get the producers to uh >> Is there like a like a like a >> I think so. >> Kind of a structure on the stage. I I'm pretty sure I've seen it. See you sing over there. >> We came dancing at the end on stage also. >> I think so. I think I've seen it. I'm pretty sure I've seen it. >> Yeah. And then I'm saying when I was when I was uh 13 years old, my my brother kind of brought Rip Slommo into the house and we found out that my father played on Carbox Records. We didn't even know, but that that was like a game changer for me because that was like the that was like up until now was like just sweet, happy according to my understanding at that time. But now like my I I felt oh this could be like really like also like this can have like you know the first niggan I ever heard was I was like thinking like what like why am I feeling so little kid but that's you know then then you know the rest is you know >> so when did you first rec when did you first compose your first song >> during that time it was very heavily >> so basically influenced No, before that. >> Before. >> Yeah. I can't play it for you because it's it's it's so bad. >> I won't force you. >> Huh? >> But if you want to play it, you could. >> I won't stop you. >> One second. One second. One second. One second. Does it come with a guitar part? I >> I didn't know what a guitar was back then. >> Oh, you composed it before you know how to play. >> Have you ever played it on the guitar? >> No. And there's many things that will happen here for the first time, and that's not one of them. >> That's not one of them. Okay. I thought I'll twist your arm. >> My question basically is I wanted to like segue in. Let's see if I could do a clever segue. Like when like when was your first you first compose a song? In other words, when was the first time then it was all of >> segue. >> Oh yeah. Thank you very much. >> Very smooth >> segue machine. >> Very smooth. Benny, >> should we sing Vinoa? You know Vinoa? >> Yeah. Yeah. But I can't do it in the key that you did it on your archipella. >> Neither can I. That's all AI. >> Yeah. When I first heard you sing it, I was like, "Wow, he's singing." Because you started on the lower part and I was like, "Why is he singing so I was like, Benny, you can do better than that." >> Yeah. >> Then I was like, >> "Whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH." >> IT WAS uh crazy. But uh listen, when I was when I was like 16 or so, I started composing like, you know, I put out my first album when I was 17 with my brother and my father. There's a couple of really sweet on that. Then I put out an album just with my brother. My brother and I came back to St. And my brother and I had >> remember the the cat's brothers. >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz we in LA. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Cuz we we we were around the Happy Minion band. >> Yeah. Happy minion band. >> That was my brother's band. >> Really? >> Yeah. Uh but then uh Yeah. So >> what key you do? >> I do it in G minor, but we can do it in any key you want. That's the power of a capo. Love in all ru I You are you a shame. Yeah. Heat. 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So you have to >> make sure everybody remembers it. And you know I I mammish like I I felt that it was like a a sweet beautiful niggan and I said you know Hashem I'm not send me the words. I'm not I'm not gonna force anything cuz I'm you know me I'm like obsessed with like making sure the words fit with the niggan like I I can't like and the next day which in doesn't exist for you right when you go >> that is correct. >> Yeah. So went to you have the you know before you have I don't know if you say it >> and then it says uh you know and I was like looking at it and I started singing it and you know I got I got all emotional thinking like wow that was fast thank you I was like and then you made it famous so thank Ah, I can't believe that story because the words fit the tune so perfect. >> Yeah, mish it was it was a niggan. It was a niggan for a full day. >> Wow. And then you know those uh the way the words are you think it was like written for those words almost >> and even when I sang it for the first time with those words it just came so naturally to repeat that word and the harmony that everybody sings together at the events and whatever it's just it's special >> just that line like that just sounds so Perfect. My goodness. >> Speaking of I remember hearing such a story that >> Ben Shanker maybe Benian Shanker composed me. Yeah. So the story that I heard was that he composed it on Shabas and he was a bach he was a young kid maybe a teenager living in his uncle's house at that time and he composed it on Shabas and what does a composer do when you compose a song on Shabas? You just sing it and sing it and sing it and sing it and sing it because you don't want to forget it. And at some point his aunt his aunt said to him Ben go on the porch. She kicked him out of the house. That song is making me misuga already. Go sing it on the porch. and she threw him out and he sat on the porch and sang it and saying it and sang it and today we have Okay, NOW IT'S GAME TIME. We're going to play a game and I see here a pair of headphones. >> Oh gosh. >> Yeah, I don't know what it's what this is about. One second. One second. >> This is called the whisper challenge. >> Okay. One player puts on headphones with loud music playing. The other player whispers the phrase written on the card. The player wearing the headphones has 60 seconds to guess the phrase by reading their lips. >> Oh gosh. >> Guest guesses first. >> I don't know. This sounds like bad news. >> Okay, let's go. Guest goes with the >> guest goes first. Guest guesses first. That's for you. >> Yeah. Can you hear me? >> Not really. >> Can't hear Can't hear nothing. >> Oh boy. This should be pretty easy. The mountains will crumble. >> What' I say? >> The mountains will crumble >> and the hill signs will fade away, but my love for you will not end. The mountains will crumble and the hillsides will fade away, but my love for you will not end. I saw you love you know the Love me. May I give them your mountain will crumble and the hillside will fade away. But my love for you will not end. >> Will never ever end. Oh yeah. Okay. >> This is This is >> First of all, this is very loud. >> Okay. Ready, Benny? >> It's got a lot of lyrics. >> Okay. >> That's the point. >> Ready? Let it be the battleships. >> Let's try again. >> B >> pink >> B >> pink b. >> The microphone doesn't help. >> Okay. Get benched. >> Mento. >> Get benched. Um a mentor >> bench. >> Start from the beginning >> in the end. >> B >> bring straight. Back >> bench. >> No, I you don't know. I have no idea. >> I have no idea what you're saying. This is so loud. >> Okay, here. This is what it was. Big events. Yeah. Mental pink. Uh, one big event. Big events. Big events. Big events. Big. So, I guess I should have assumed that it was a a song of mine, but it's a special kind of torture. I love the song, but Okay, >> you're not going to guess this. Payback time. Maybe. >> Okay. So either I'm just much better at you in this game or you are much better with saying the words as loud as I have. >> Yes, it's loud. >> Oh my goodness. Take it down two keys. major. Major. Let's try that again. >> Okay, this my turn. >> Yeah. Last one. Last one. >> Redemption time. Here we go. Okay. >> Make it really loud, please. >> Extra loud. Okay, ready? >> My heart is headed HOMEWARD BOUND. >> HOMEWARD BOUND. >> YEAH, THERE WE GO. >> I had home bound. My heart is headed home. No, you're right. >> I said the whole thing. My heart is headed homeward bound. Did I win or did I lose? >> I lost. >> Two nothing. >> Make one more card. two zero. >> Okay, very good. What do I get if I win? >> A free ticket to Benny's and Friends. >> That is correct. Oh my goodness. We didn't talk about Benny and Friends show last year. >> That was great. That was a lot of fun. >> First of all, thank you so much for coming. >> That was very very special. Person on a personal level, it was very very special for me. And I think also uh on a not personal level, I think it was a fabulous show. >> Yes, it was. It was I I I was there from beginning to to end and it was indeed >> Did you have family members there? >> My kid Yeah, my kids came. They were backstage. >> And did they enjoy it? >> 100%. >> That was a great show. And we're doing another one. Benny and friends volume two this will be October 1st, Thursday. Amazing surprise guests as you have come to uh expect. And uh hopefully we'll see you there. Get your tickets at singentertainment.net. >> Yeah. I mean, we probably met each other without knowing each other because I went I told you this. I went um I used to go on in Los Angeles. I used to go to Oral Kan. >> Yeah. Sure. >> Yad. >> So, Rabbi Linger soni, >> right? He was a friend of mine. >> Yes. >> So, he used to take me. >> He was my after we got married. Yeah. >> But I met you I think I think I did a concert like 20 years ago or something like that. No, it was right after my son was and I don't know 19 years ago at Queens College with Avan Freed and Eighth Day and you were hanging out backstage. >> Really? >> I think you already put out a Yeah, I know this is this is after you started singing everything but I remember meeting you backstage. That's that's I don't shave. I maybe this will you remember this that Aram Fried got he landed from >> he was stuck in the airport for Chabas. >> He landed like mamish a minute before. >> Yeah, he was he spent Chabas at JFK. >> He spent Chabas there and he came straight to Queens. >> I was at that show. >> You were you didn't perform but you were like you know hanging out with the Mishb. >> Yeah. Wow. >> So I do remember >> the crisis. I remember I don't remember the the backstage uh shenanigans. I don't remember. >> Yeah. >> Wow. Very cool. But I do want to I I want to just say you mentioned the ro and I was thinking about this mamish uh yesterday. I was driving in I was in Chicago and this is how I drive. I drive like this and I was thinking that the ro you know and the ro rabbi d the ro is the d rashisha in Los Angeles in yeshiva's oral kabad rashiva he's called affectionately the ro and uh he once spoke in yeshiva it was then at the height of the popularity of matisyahu the Jewish rapper reggae singer and there was a lot of controversy do the bah listen do they not listen is it okay is it what and blah blah blah and he spoke and he said something very simple but very very deep just it it wasn't about anything specific. It was just in general this concept that this is not the first time in history that such a idea comes up and it's very very understandable and logical that you can have one product right he wasn't speaking specifically but at that time matanyahu with his music was being mar of a lot of people to yushkite >> uh and on the other side people were saying it's not okay for yeshiva to listen so rabbi shhat was saying that you have a concept like by the you have one thing that for one person it's mish a bomb for his soul it's mish medicine for somebody else it's poison the same thing right so in music you have it all everywhere depending on on each person's nishama depending on each person's uh you know stage in life wherever he's holding on his personal spiritual aid. One thing can be for him uplifting and that same thing can be for somebody else misha a terrible downfall. So I was thinking about this to music. Yeah. You have a million styles of music, a million uh genres, a million tastes and this you just need it's not one style for everyone. There just needs to be something for everyone because everyone relates and you know we were talking about I was talking with the actually backstage we were there it was at the at the at the Navi show >> and the Zusha band was talking about it people take uh holy holy nagunim and and you know they and they put interesting arrangements to it and there was a lot of is it okay what do you think you know you take a holy thing and put And this concept of you have to make these great and holy nagunim available and accessible to people who they're not listening to >> right doesn't talk to them doesn't doesn't problem is the problem is when does it get carried away oh >> everything you're saying is 100% true it's just a question of now I feel there's like a a very big like billable of like especially with the emergence not the emergence But every day it feels like there's a new level of emergence of social media and you know streaming and stuff like that is this concept of everything for everyone >> right >> and that's and and that I think where it breaks up the kashivas of what the rush and what you what you just said meaning yeah you're right there's a mitas we didn't create this idea of yet you know the same product is yes for one person for another person but it's getting harder and harder to to to control it because of the availability of it. >> I think what you're saying is not it's not it's it's impossible. No such thing as controlling it, but there's a there's a it's it becomes confusing when people who are not sick are taking medicine. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> I think the Reb says it. So the Reb says that the word >> can also mean the leftovers. Yeah. >> That after the songs have all ended. >> Exactly. >> What's left? What remains? You sang the song and it warmed you up. Did it leave a lasting impression? Did this fabbran did this concert did it change you? >> And and I was thinking about this also. You need to be everybody who watches, everybody who's listening, everybody who consumes music or consumes really anything. You have to be very choosy and very specific about what you consume and you decide and you filter it out based on the what does it how does it leave you? What does it have on you? Does it lift you up or does it do nothing? Was it just stom entertainment or does it bring you down and make your job now a lot harder? I I think that's a good word. What do you think? It's life changing. >> Fantastic. No, no, I think everybody has to hear that. Life-changing. Everybody has to hear that and everybody has to continue making those choices. I would be like 100% lost for those, you know, you you've we've been on stage together. I'm, you know, >> I can rock out with the guitar and I can I can make it happen. And if I don't have like something like keeping me in check once told me, he says to me, you know, you should play music. It was basically like trying to bring down the idea of when you're on stage play as if that if would walk into the room you wouldn't change anything. And he basically like that was really it's a really hard thing to live up to. And I've and I've used that idea. I've caught myself many times you know when I'm going different directions like if my Rebi would walk in here would I be embarrassed? Would I would I change a little bit? you know, and and try to you're not perfect, obviously, you know, but like, you know, try to try to be be, you know, with all the music and with all the energy, with all the Gisha, all that stuff. We're human. >> Sure. Sure. >> But then you I always think like you have to it would depend who the sadic is, >> right? Because the what what the image that's coming to my mind is the Pmenta brothers playing in front of the electric guitar. >> Yeah. rock band, rock and roll and and and Deereb is standing there and they no no problem as they perform that's how they're performing and is there of your choice you know that's I'm saying but there has to be some level of >> you know >> in other words everybody needs to have a line whatever that line is and and and you can't choose it for yourself >> exactly >> you need to have somebody guiding you because or else >> like it says You need if when you discuss your and your struggles whatever it is with another it's not this not a this is not a mashia this is like a >> so then it's twoer against one >> wow >> so there's because twoas don't know how to work together but but besides if you have an issue you're so you you have a yates for yourself that's that's trying to convince you that yeah you can push the line you can push the Fine. Your Yates is telling you, Alo, you know the right way. You know, and now your friend comes in. He doesn't have the Yates for you to push the line. Yeah. You now it's two Yates against one Yates. You You just You just leveled the playing field. Thank you very much to our sponsor NYC Designer Outlet. They have everything you might need to look your best. Shoes, belts, ties, coats, you name it. all the designer brands you love like Stfano Richi, Ferraamo, Gucci, Zena, and so much more. I have shoes from NYC designer outlet and I love them and of course their service is second to none. They're one of the largest resellers of designer fashion and everything is based right here in the United States, so nothing is shipped in from overseas, which means >> no surprise tariffs, no surprise blocking uh what what's the word? the straight of Hormuz. Traffic in the straight. No, they come straight to your door and that's it. 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You need to be reminded again and again that we have the ability to change. >> You can't just march into rash as a you need to prepare really with anything anything important. >> We just put out a new called niggan chuva. >> How does it go? and uh uh Raisha Oslander. You know Raasha, right? >> Of course. But we did a duet several years ago. >> Yes. A lot a lot of years ago. >> A lot of years ago. It's very >> that niggan is like >> that's an unbelievable Negan. And it's different from the from the other that you write. >> I I composed in Amsterdam of all places. I was getting ready for uh >> Oh, remember the Shabas project? >> Sure. >> So, >> it's still current. No, they still do it. >> I don't even know. But it was when it started it was a big thing. >> Now Trump does it. >> Yeah. >> And we were on our way to London for Shabas and we stopped in Amsterdam for a community event there. I was there with Jeremy and my violinist. And I I as as we were preparing for the gig, I was in my room, he was in his room and I just started singing. I was like just walting around the room. also came tune first. >> Yes. >> That's amazing. >> Yes. And then um Yeah. Then I called Jeremy in from the other room. I told him, "Get over right now with your violin." And he's like, "Oh, emergency." Yeah. And then we asked Devat to join. And I until today I think that is like one of the most unique uh the arrangement is is >> Yeah. >> Oh my gosh. Rambam. >> Yeah. Beautiful arrangement production. And people might think I'm saying this like in a in a like u begrudgingly way. I don't understand how that niggan didn't take off to be like one of like the anthems of big gatherings and stuff. >> Hashem says this this that >> it's just such a niggan that like >> it's very it's beautiful. It's like >> but still time >> after this podcast it's going to blow up. You just watch And if doesn't >> I was so nervous because Rambam and his arrangement was like how high you want to go because they modulate twice on that song and I was like >> Benny's doing this. We'll be fine. >> I'll just >> And anyway, we're recording it in a bunker. If if things go south, nobody's going to have to hear about it. >> I'll duck somewhere and it'll be, you know, >> you know, you know, before you shot him. >> A major. >> Yeah, I'll do it. If you don't know it, you can't you can't uh this is not one of those you can you know is alone. He is sure I know it is. Hello enter. >> I'm here for you. I'm here for you. You're in the harmony, right? I'm la away. Okay. By the way, I will uh donate more if you remember how the niggan goes. And I will do it even if if not. Wait, I have to remember it. Okay, a second. Hold on. I remember it. Yeah. No. Was that Yeah, we're going to we're going to have a chat about this about this again after we finish because 100%. >> Okay. >> Well, Rabbi Sai, at this point in the show, it is time to wish everyone here I wish you all the blessings in the world and when you sing this season of chuva chuva season and you're standing in shul and you're singing lea from ean cats you can your heart your heart can be filled with gratitude for the man who was the of the who brought us this niggan thank you so much for joining us over here backstage with Benny may you be blessed with all the may be Stop. I woo my hat.