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Being an Open Minded Jew - Let's Get Real with Coach Menachem - Rabbi Efrem Goldberg
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Rabbi Efrem Goldberg on Let's Get Real with Coach Menachem. Becoming an Open Minded Jew, Not Being Locked into One Hashkafa, but Taking the Best of all of Them Sunday, October 31st, 2021 Episode # 78
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okay everybody welcome to tonight's
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number 78 with the let's get real
program with coach menachem burnfield
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for four weeks and we're going to see
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a night owl i usually wake up around 9pm
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first
um again uh next week november 7th we'll
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week should be amazing tonight we have
this host of having with us
world famous uh rabbi rev ethan goldberg
from beautiful sunny boca raton florida
with here tonight hopefully i'll be
visiting you around january time to work
can't wait looking forward it's getting
a little cold
and let's start off first with opening
comments from our host coach menachem
berenfeld menachem
blow it open
thank you thank you very much welcome
everyone
for another episode of the parkinson we
have this first to have rabbit from
goldberg tonight
the truth is we're still coming down
from last week rabbi yossi zakatinsky he
mentioned
about panemia centauri
and we're trying to figure out what
panemias is for those who were able to
go a little bit deeper and he did
mention that
it takes time until you find the right
thing that connects the safer whatever
it is
and he mentioned that it's like a smorg
you try one thing
you give it some time you know don't
don't try to have it all at once
and if it doesn't work you go to the
next
and you go to the next you try to see
what connects to you
and that was more panemias i think
tonight we're going to be discussing a
little bit um take it to the next level
maybe not so much panemias it could be a
little bit heterogeneous
of yiddish guides
and tonight's topic
is a little bit uh sticky one could be
sticky for many
um for those who live
in the box
for you know you want to open a little
window to let some fresh air in
it not always is it a good idea to open
somebody's eyes
you know again i don't know i don't know
where you're coming from where you are
and
but
a good example is let's say the kids
people do care sometimes they they say
it's hard because they get to see all
the types of people and we don't want
them to to be exposed that's a good good
example that
just
do what i did my father grandfather and
that's it no questions
that's one way of doing things
but um eventually you get older you want
to understand a little bit
i think this vikuach is a really old one
maisha rabbenu had his request with his
share
said much
they're going to teach
everything they have to know but israel
said no excuse me
um i want them to go on the journey that
i went on i tried everything out and i
got to that car of hashem by myself
so they had to figure this out i'm not
sure what the shotgun did but they made
a decision one kid like this and one
thing like that
it's it's it's a it's a question and uh
it's
we can't really um
come to the conclusion it it really has
to be each person to their own
and the truth is baltruvas it's
interesting if you listen to belchuva
sometimes
they could come to a place
where they connect to the sky where you
are already and you're looking at them
and thinking i don't know what you're
talking about it's like you grew up
there
and it you don't connect to it even
though you're talking about the same
thing for him that connects himself i
just want to share a story there's an
interesting one many years ago
in eric's stroll my wife uh we did some
care of in
the fella esther
and there was a girl over there um
coming back through balchuva come back
to yiddish guys
and it was very nice she wanted to come
for shabbos
and she mentioned she wants to bring her
friend she had a friend she met in svas
her boyfriend
so debating and they they were very they
were very connected and they were
growing together
and his name was jake
so they were coming for shabbos
and i found out that this boy was
joyly for monroe
that ended up in svas
and he was going to do whatever she
wants
because they were going to be together
forever and this was a serious question
they were really she was
growing yiddish guys coming to
bigger heights
and he was there who knows how he got
there and he decided
who knows what so we had them for
shabbos
and
we had jake over there and then in the
middle of the suit i told him yeah
they can't mystomaches best of me
he's like you know coming from monroe
so yeah that's true
so again you have different type of
people coming different directions and
questions what they're looking for at
the end they both went on their own way
and they got the better places
uh hashem but
to know where we are what connects and
what works for me and sometimes i get
ideas from other places
and
you're not sure if it does work or not
so in tonight we're going to hear more
from every from goldberg i believe this
is how he runs this community
and he's on a mission so michigan we
should be able to help we should have so
we should all hear what we need to hear
to grow and become closer to hashem
thank you very much
okay let's get into it um again just
mentioning again and i'm still writing
the first forty shiren in short of the
book tonight's share 78 keep that in
mind anybody wants to be involved in any
way or sponsor a chapter or help them
write it please email coachmen on
gmail.com
um tonight's share will be something
very interesting rabbit goldberg i got a
request from somebody tonight so we're
going to learn to share
this this request
tonight share everybody's listening we
need everybody attention for this one
tonight she will be learned in schools
of a very special couple that i know
well who has not been blessed with
children of their own
i am reaching out to a broad audience
that will watch this to see if there's
anybody out there could help them with
an adoption process
please if anybody has any help with this
or disclosure from the share should just
be as close with them and shamayim
please reach out to coach monaco
gmail.com and we will forward all the
information to this couple
and make sure and we hope to hear good
things
again after last week's conversation
everybody else is akatinski with
discussing deeper meaning and yiddish
sort of catapulted it into this topic so
it's like a little bit like we're
feeding off each other a lot of people
are talking about what the topic is what
it is they're standing i'm getting texts
aware tonight's topic is open-minded
open-mindedness in yiddish
and all different mahakam in in yiddish
kite
and we have a very broad world right now
right people getting texts from miles
widowman right the guy could live in
boca raton florida and ramadan you gotta
watch that from him and you see like
everything is open and people are all
over the place and it's a topic that
truly probably everybody in some way
struggles with it but we want to really
bring it to the table tonight won't
discuss it that's an interesting topic
and we have this host of having uh
rabbi from goldberg has tonight so i'm
going to redraft ephraim's bio and
you'll fix it up whenever i make a
mistake and then he'll go straight to
the opening
rabbi from goldberg is a senior rabbi
book returned florida brs and a rapidly
growing congregation of over a thousand
family with thousands of children of
boca raton brs is the largest orthodox
synagogue in the southeast united states
robert goldberg's warm a welcoming
personality and self-attract diverse
backgrounds and ages to feel parts of
the brs community reforcing
the brs critique of valuing diversity
and celebrating unity rabbi edward
goldberg
the floor is yours
sugar thank you so much a good evening
to everyone and let me begin by giving a
huge a shaka to you ushering to coach
menachem i'm looking out and i see the
numbers over 370 people at 10 15 on a
sunday night who are benealia who are
here and watching and participating live
for no other reason i hope it's not to
be entertained but to be inspired and to
be informed and uh reese's
but that's not true tonight you see this
number and you see this crowd it's
really it's inspiring it's incredible
what you've accomplished what you've
achieved to create this worldwide
chabura simultaneously who are united by
the desire to grow and to struggle to
confront difficult conversations
conversations that maybe make us a
little uncomfortable or challenge us to
leave our comfort zone and to explore a
little bit more who we are so i am very
indebted to you and humbled by the
opportunity to share with you and
appreciate appreciate this chance let me
tell you what this is not i want to talk
to you a little bit about where i'm
coming from very personally sort of my
spiritual autobiograph autobiography
what we try to do in our community and
our shul in terms of its diversity
diversity with a sense of community all
the shame shamayim
all to be marble
i am all to bring us closer to the
ribonucleon to grow torah and i want to
tell you what this is not my goal
tonight is if you are comfortable in
your hashkafa now let me start out with
this disclaimer the assumption of our
conversation is we're talking within the
boundaries of torah and mitzvos and
outside of that and where you define
those boundaries exactly can be
complicated we know there are debates
within hasidim there are debates within
them
there are debates within ashkenazim
inspired him so we have different han
haga's men hug him we have different
backgrounds and different misoras but
for the sake of this conversation we're
not talking about somebody who's trying
to pierce or break down the barriers the
war walls the boundaries of the life of
torah mitzvos the assumption
is non-negotiable
they are the blueprint of our lives that
we are bound by our abaya
however you formulate it the backdrop
the foundation the assumption this
conversation is that we're talking about
a community of people who are committed
to torah mitzvos and
so let me tell you what i'm not going to
try to do tonight my goal if you are
comfortable if you come from a
particular yeshiva if you identify with
a particular hasidus if you have certain
manhattan in your family if you have a
rebbe and a messora my goal is not to
try to convince you to leave it's not to
try to convince you to water down or
dilute it's not to try to convince you
to switch teams or to pivot and to join
someone else i simply want to describe
where i am and how i feel and when i
first put this out there to the greater
oil i'm not just my show in our
community but to the jewish world that
large people reached out to me from all
four corners of the globe to say yes
we're putting into words exactly how i
feel thank you for making a space to
describe where i am so if you're
comfortable where you are stay there my
goal is not to convert you my goal is
not to change you my goal is simply to
generate this conversation to talk about
what does it mean
to be exposed to be aware of to feel
comfortable in a greater torah world
than when we're in personally i grew up
in teaneck new jersey i learned in
yeshiva
university nyu i'm a talmud of muri
varabhir of shekhter shlita and i'm
proud of every part of those sentences
where i learned and from whom i learned
i'm incredibly proud i'm unapologetic
i'm not shy whatsoever however however
the title of this article that i wrote
which captured these feelings was i'm
not a modern orthodox rabbi it was a
newspaper article that talked about
something in reference to me rabbi from
goldberg a modern orthodox rabbi and
when i read it i immediately recoiled
and i took exception to that description
because i said that's not the sum total
of who i am
now someone who reads that article now
someone who sees my name has these
predisposed thoughts has these
associations or ideas has locked me into
that box is making all kinds of
assumptions about me because they see
that term however loaded it is whatever
assumptions they have about it and now
that's what they think about me so
whether it's what i learned or the parts
of so-called modern orthodoxy that i
embrace fully and i'm unapologetic for
my discomfort with being called that
name has nothing to do with trying to
distance myself from my past fully
embrace it i'm fully proud of it however
i'm bothered by the notion that that
would represent the sum totality of who
i am
i'm a very complex person there are a
lot of parts to who i am i have rebayem
and i have sources of inspiration and i
turn to for guidance throughout the
width and breadth of the torah world
ashkenazi safari hasidis litvish from
lakewood to t-neck from eretz israel to
wherever i feel connected to so many
parts of the total world in which i've
spent
shabbasmundovam which i've sat in
yeshivas are learned at the feet of
gedola israel and i connect to the swarm
and the derek
and the limit of so many so to isolate
and to lock me and stick me into that
box to define me by only the name on my
smicha is i thought to somewhat limit me
and i don't want to be limited in that
way now again we have we have minhagem i
have been hugging from my father we have
been hugging from where we're from i'm
not encouraging anyone to abandon them
and hug him the practices that we have
maybe we have an outlook a perspective
of a hashkafa that we grew up with and
and there are people very comfortable in
that way so for example you sit in shoes
and you hear khabar rabonim it's very
rare that you'll hear avert advaithora
torah
that doesn't come from the rebel
or from the world of khabar i found in
the
world among
them and even
they quote largely not only
most almost all the torah come through
that world and there are you rabbis who
will only quote of salvation they'll
quote rabbi or jonathan sax
there are people who are locked into
that world and they think they have one
shelf on their bookcase and it's a very
small library it's the library of the
yeshiva they learned in or the rebellion
they learned from and i'm not saying
that they're doing anything wrong those
who feel that that ashkaf is the sum
total of what they what does it for them
and what they want to share with others
fantastic there's so much to learn from
them
however for me for me i believe the
torah is so rich and it's so beautiful
it's so profound there's so many angles
it's so nuanced and it comes from so
many different directions and why not
synthesize and why not combine and why
not draw from the well the wellsprings
throughout the total world throughout
the torah world when the melka sasha of
ashleeta
for the loss of his mother when russia
visited our community for example in our
community by the way we have russia
yeshiva from the gamut of different
yeshivas we've had riverfrom waxman
shalita rav david
from bishop university and you rebellion
from mary to stroll from the total gamut
ravashaw weiss and others because like
my ashkaf i want our shul to recognize
and to see and to learn from and to see
the beauty of torah so russia said the
following when he was in boca raton when
he was at brs he said quote he
challenged us
ahead and
shahar the honesty integrity of the
tomimus impurity of a hungarian the
covetator of asparty and the love of
their
testosterones was not locking anyone
into stereotypes well you can't be
honest and have integrity unless you're
a yeka you can't have covered a torah
unless you're a sovereign of course not
these are generalizations and
stereotypes but his point was to say
that we should not
delegate these parts of whether it's
midos or
a torah world to those segments of the
total world we should see ourselves as
that synthesized blend of that total
world of drawing and incorporating and
combining so to get to the crux here's
my thesis and then i can't wait to have
this conversation i told russia i have
into chakras tomorrow morning as long as
people want to continue the conversation
the navigator tells us
the entrance to the base of maketosh had
12 gates the ud-based shaaram to the
bayside mikdash and according to
italians
he says correspondingly each of the 12
tribes eats of the shvatim had their own
nusakhatvila each shavit had their own
liturgy had their own sitter had their
own sakatvilla had their own heavenly
gate just like in the basala make that
shave and at the gate they would walk
through meaning how they accessed
yereshkait what spoke to them their
hashgap of their worldview what they
emphasized
similarly in shamayim there was a gate
they go through each one had their own
nusa and almost 200 years later after
the maggot of
added that if someone doesn't know what
shape that they come from
if someone doesn't know where they
belong what nus of tadavan
just like in the basal natash there was
a 13th gate sotu and shamayim there is a
13th gate and that's what he established
what he called the
arizona called it
the character is the universal gate a
yid a member of claudius who says i
don't know what shay that i belong to
i'm not exactly i don't fit into that
box i'm not exactly that shavette i'm
not exactly that yeshiva or that
community that yamaka that hashkafa that
shita it's not exactly me either i don't
know where i belong or i belong in all
twelve simultaneously such a jew at a
gate for them to walk through too
they had a sharla kola the 13th gate
they had it down here on earth in the
basal mikdash and they had it in
shamayim in the noosa of the character
and what i pause what i submit to you my
dear friends tonight is that what's true
for nusrah is true for our lives there
are those who are confident which shave
that they come from whichever they
belong to kola kavod to you your
if you know what shaving you come from i
don't mean the shift
i mean i know you know what shaver you
come from
this type of
i'm in this yeshiva i'm not interested
in any other issue if you know what
shaver you're from
belong to it live it be comfortable in
it enjoy it but there are many of us i
could tell you personally myself
over my life when i was a talmud in
yeshiva university i spent shabasana in
new square by the square arriba i went
three years in a row for semcrastora to
new square i felt a pull i felt a
connection it provided something for me
that i wasn't getting that i wasn't
being inspired by in my yeshiva from my
rebellion not any fault or deficiency of
their own but there are different
schwatim and so i see myself as a member
of that character i see myself walking
through that 13th gate feeling
comfortable drawing from the different
gates around us and my friends i don't
think i'm the only one
i imagine many of you here tonight and
many of people you know they may wear a
certain yamaka or they may cover their
head in a certain style they may send
their kids to a certain school
they may fit into a certain mold the way
society wants to label us because it's
convenient for society to say you're
this that or the other thing you know on
the dating websites today you fill in on
the daily website what are you are you
modern orthodox right-wing orthodox
right-wing chabad the dating sites try
to lock you into that hashkofa but i
think there are many who look at that
drop-down menu and say i don't know what
to answer because i'm a little bit of
each i'm a little bit of them all i take
from it all i walk through that
character i feel connected to so many
parts of claudia's throw and i know this
to be a fact the empirical evidence is
undeniable
because there are people in lakewood i
know that yeshua university has an
incredible tourist site called yutora
and when they crunch their data every
year the ip addresses that are consuming
countless hours of the way russia
yeshiva and the torah of
is lakewood new jersey
and if you go to yeshiva university in
washington heights and those who
identify are muscle of you how many of
them have a year ah them on their shelf
how many are watching the ramayana
biederman how many are learning this
form of richer maya morgenstern how many
are connecting to other parts of the
total world the walls have come
crumbling down and the global froome
torah community has access to one
another and we are learning svaran and
listening and watching whether one
minute video clips or the full shoe room
we're able to see we're able to learn
magazine magazine
they are exposed they're giving profiles
on the totality of the total world and
whereas in the past a person was locked
in and you didn't read and you weren't
exposed to and you knew nothing about
someone from another world today the
cover of those magazines could be a rosh
shiva of lakewood or why you from
maritza struggle or america
the worlds have come crumbling down
either rebbe anderson stroll and karen b
avenue blackman who used to say he used
to say you can put me in a box when i'm
dead
until then don't try to make me feel fit
me into one of your labels you'll put me
in a box when i'm dead until then don't
try to label me because it'll be more
comfortable for you we're living in a
time that's more comfortable people want
to label one another i need to know how
to see you i want to know how to judge
you i need to know how to evaluate you
are you one of mine or are you the other
where do you fit in by the way when such
a person meets someone who's complicated
complex nuance it throws them for an
enormous loop they don't know what to do
with them i don't know where to put you
you you're a
but you also are connected to that you
you're knowledgeable and you're exposed
to this but you also they don't know
what to do with it they don't know what
to do with it and so if other people
feel comfortable in this world that is
my thesis that is a description of who i
am and where i am in my life and i can
give you many more examples of trying to
drink from the wellsprings of torah of
the shivampanultor the diversity of
torah but there's a lot of opportunity
for conversation
hashem in that context i'm happy to
share a lot more of why do i believe in
this why do i believe it's okay to
believe in this what are the makotos
what are the sources that a jew is
allowed to see themselves in the
sharacolo that you don't have to work
tirelessly to belong to only one shade
that lock yourself in why are we allowed
to again all within the framework of a
total world not breaking through
barriers outside of torah the assumption
of this whole conversation torah mitzvos
is binding non-negotiable
ephraim beautiful opening
let's get into it okay we're gonna take
a little poll take a minute break grab a
goldberg i know you start off with the
passion
let's let's go take a drink
here we go
[Music]
okay we're gonna ask everybody this poll
everybody see it on the screen those two
questions answer from your heart
anonymously and let's just get a feeling
from the crowd how do you feel about
your ashkafa that you were brought up
with do you feel a stifled and looking
for more depth
option b it's a perfect fit for you
option c i wish i can get out
but it's easier to stay as as in
as is
that's the first question second
question what is keeping me from
exploring other ashkaf toyo views
a i don't trust myself
b others will judge me or see i don't
know where to start
so those are two questions every answer
will give you five seconds
and then we'll jump into questions
[Music]
okay let's share the poll with everybody
then we'll jump into questions here we
go
how do you feel about your ash kava that
you were brought up with 37 of people
say over here that they're stippled and
looking for more depth 37 of people 50
percent of people are it's a perfect fit
they're happy where they are and they're
good they just came here robert goldberg
just to see you because they love you
and 30 to people i wish i can get out
but it's easier for me to stay where i
am
number two what is keeping me from
exploring other artichokes ten percent
of people say i don't trust myself 35 of
people say others will judge me and 56
of people say i don't know where to
start
okay let's x the south
okay
okay yeah let's start with the first
live question and then we will
let the night going everybody was
supposed to have ever ever from here
from boca raton florida
maybe has a question that they want to
ask please he's here to answer go
thank you so much for the introduction
and i really enjoy your living with your
ministers that are following from new
york
and i wanted to ask so
how does one gain confidence to do what
is right despite what others
could say or even not say but might feel
the vibes that they think that what
you're doing is not correct because the
world that we live in is such a
superficial world and focuses so much on
the outside
but there are so many different ways to
acquire a relationship with the kadus
barco
is a good question
you heard the question clearly i think i
heard the question clearly which is that
it's a very superficial world it's a
judgmental world and how can a person
know what to do or where to go or what
to look or how to open themselves up to
other opportunities because there's a
fear there's a fear first of all the
fear people don't trust themselves and
there's a fear that um there's a fear
that others will judge us it could
impact our children shidduchim they
could impact whether they get into the
issue of the seminaries we could impact
so many things so we're living in that
position of fear so it's a fantastic
question so let me say this first of all
the ribonuclear
he gave you an intuition and instinct to
give you an intellect and he gave you a
curiosity and he wants you to go
discover him avraham avinu founder
ibanushalam we are the talmidim of
you know we are the progeny the children
of avram avinu and we're also on a
journey of finding ourselves
mahogany begins a person should ask
himself what is my duty what is my
obligation where is my place in the
world to be marcus mccomo who am i and
what is my place and what difference am
i making meant to make so the
superficial world we live in it tries to
fit us in these narrow box and then we
end up competing with one another we end
up trying to
um trying to imitate one another but our
mission is to be who we are and who
we're meant to be and who we are who are
meant to be includes a process of a
journey of discovery that's the lachlan
videos
go and find you there wasn't a
destination that was offered there were
no coordinates there was nothing to plug
into ways of the gps the left was to go
where
islam ever show him says that a person
who tries to live the life of another
person they say i'm going to imitate you
i'm going to compete with you i want to
look like you act like you i'll have the
same job as you i'll sit in the same
committees as you oh i keep the same
hours of the basement as you i'm going
to be exactly like you that florida says
that is the definition of a vote azara
it's avodah my avodah to hashem is zoro
it's foreign to me it's not me it's not
who i meant to be so the
to be on a journey of discovery now
again what i'm saying is not so radical
at all i'm not suggesting switch the
type of yamaka switch the type of hair
covering switch your children school
yeshiva i'm not suggesting radical
shifts or changes from where we come
from if a person is comfortable where
they come from if a person is proud if a
person feels inspired if a person is
living a rich jewish life then be happy
my point is that there's shouldn't have
the fear to also be exposed to what else
is out there and we have the gift right
now of technology now i might have been
afraid to say that particularly let's
say to a lake with
except that you're all on zoom right now
let's be honest with one another if
you're here right now and you're
listening whether on zoom or later on
youtube or podcast or whatever device or
platform you're listening on to whatever
degree you are embracing technology you
might even be part of a community that
tells you that's also in traif and
forbidden and yarra valjavor but you're
here anyway because you're craving
you're hungry you're searching you're
looking you're a ben or a bassalia you
want to grow you want to find you want
to discover so my answer is that without
taking enormous risk without risking the
shidduchim of our children without
risking our children getting into these
schools the yeshivas of their choice a
person can grow and learn whether it's
on other platforms or devices like this
to listen to read to learn to be
inspired to experience other segments of
the community you know when the members
of our community go to searle after high
school for a year
and they ask me when they say what
should i what's the most important thing
what do you recommend what do i need to
experience in that year i say to them of
course aside from
drawing out everything you can from the
yeshiva the seminary that you're in
taking every class and sitting at the
feet of every great person and learning
every moment and aside from going to the
holy sites of the veritas earl i always
say
try to make the rounds and heir to
searle among diverse communities don't
just go to your aunt whereas a new
american kitchen don't go to your cousin
where it's comfortable the food's good
and it's american bed don't just go
where you know and where you're
comfortable eric israel has a rich
tapestry a beautiful diversity of torah
communities of torah communities i
mentioned marijuana russia weiss
ravashah weiss is a kleisenberger khasid
he is
undisputed one of the major postcom a
gobble bee israel ravashar i think is
somebody who every community recognizes
his godless batora
bashar do you know where usher gives
sheer every week or every month and
heritage israel
aside from the shirom he gives in his
yeshivas and his colon he goes to the
hezdo yeshiva and they wrote he's spoken
in hezbollah shiva in gushets
he makes the rounds because he says if
people are thirsty for torah i'll go
there to share it as long as they're
part of the ulama torah as long as
they're part of the the legitimate world
of torah and so if he's not afraid to go
to the different diverse worlds to teach
torah then why are we afraid to be
exposed to the diverse worlds to learn
torah i'm not talking about outside
those worlds but within the worlds of
the ulam torah that can work together
why are we afraid so don't worry about
your neighbor and don't worry my yomru
what they're going to say about you
privately privately slowly incrementally
a little bit to experience and i'll tell
you why i think it's very important
and i want to clarify this one to kuda
and i know that a lot of questions will
get to other questions but when you have
a rev on you can't begin to think that
any answer is going to be short so i
don't feel that bad
i want to clarify something
i'm not suggesting if you know what
shape that you belong to you have to
switch to the
character but i am suggesting that you
not lock yourself into one shavet la
fuke to the exclusion of every other
shavit of all the rest of the shvatham
to pastel all the other shwatan out
there and i'll tell you why
if not for you because you're
comfortable for your children and for
our grandchildren
i'm telling you because i see the horror
stories of what happens
boca del rey
is the capital of the world
of addiction and recovery
and i see people that come from very
very firm communities and i'm not
blaming parents and i'm not blaming
addiction specifically on this issue
alone
but in almost every conversation you
have with people who come from
incredibly intense firm upbringings
who've walked away they'll tell you
that the world i was in was so narrow
and it was so suffocating and it was so
small and it was so judgmental that if i
didn't fit exactly and if i had any
curiosity and if i challenged with any
question there was no room for me i was
a shagit i was a guy and you know what
if i'm a shaygitz and a guri i might as
well live like ashay gets in a guy
and that's why very often the people who
go off the door from that community they
don't end up somewhere else with their
shomatorio mitzvos but in a different
ashkaffa they walk away entirely because
they've been told ah shave it's the only
shavit there's no shift they cut there's
no shark
this is it this is the only way to live
to learn torah these are the only
hanago's the only ashkafa these are the
only monogam this is it and if you
deviate in iota if you ask one question
there's no room for you
it's either our way or you're going so i
might as well go live and i might as
well go be a guy i see those horror
stories i see that pain
i see the results of that narrowness so
i'm not saying anyone should leave their
shade and join the sharacolo i'm saying
that perhaps perhaps if we proudly wave
the banner of our shaven and we proudly
teach and inculcate the background of
our shade to our children but we also
teach them that we live in this global
open world in which i don't care where
you come from there's opportunity to be
exposed to diversity and to other things
out there that if we if we can
appreciate and teach a respect and an
openness within the ulama torah again
we're talking only within the diverse
ulama torah i think we'll keep more of
our children within the firm world
because they won't get squeezed and
pushed out by the narrowness that makes
no room for them to go you know
we're beautiful okay let's go to the
next live question you're on
all right so number one
um this is clock i just wanted to thank
you for all the
help that you've done
um for quarter cool in particular which
is the organization i
am involved in
uh but my question is essentially
um i come from a very open-minded family
where it happens to my mom comes from
tinac morphy
stern back rather than my father
it's more because climb guys so we
always had diversity in the house but as
the community i live in
is becoming more and more rigid
i'm getting more and more judgment for
not necessarily wearing a hat every
single day
and um you know not wearing a jacket i
have my reasons for it
um i i dabbing three times a day i keep
travis and there are certain things that
i'm just getting judged by
and when i went to the ralph and michael
for guidance he's like well maybe you
should try to fit in more and i honestly
want to do what is comfortable for me
um
and i am a very open-minded individual
and i don't judge others
do feel what they do what it's like for
them but i guess coming from that open
mind in society
my question is essentially a person who
is being called
modern and fiona
whether that's true or not in that
society
what can
i do and i'm sure there are other people
like this as well
um to make things i would say a little
better
you think it's a great question first of
all it's great to see you thank you all
the work you do for torah
tarakula and everybody here should know
yet he's one of my heroes it's really an
amazing story of of what you do to
spread torah in the world so it's like
it's a great question and it relates to
the last question because for whatever
reason you're not comfortable right now
wearing a hat does that mean you're not
in hashem you don't have your shamayim
you're not a bentora does that mean that
you don't have a place there are a lot
of people who wear hats because
doesn't come close to measuring up to
yours whose talmud and spreading of
torah doesn't come close to matching up
of yours these are superficial criteria
happens to be i wear a hat seven days a
week i wear a hat so i'm not knocking at
ranking a hat i wear a hat but is the
hat the sum total of who we are does
that become the tool the instrument the
weapon through which we are going to
judge or beat or feel holier than now
from others so i think a person has to
have a rebbe it's like i know you have
rebellion and you have a rebbe that you
have to ask people have to ask their
questions to we have to seek out
ammunition whatever terminology you want
to employ but we have people it's
we speak to the role models the sources
of inspiration the guidance and the
authorities of our life and we come to
the conclusions of who we want to be and
how we want to live and so they're
different communities that are different
than hagim and there's nothing wrong
with that and we have to respect that
it's a dinin
has objective absolute standards they
are the halacha that's non-negotiable
but then built and caked into the denim
of the hostilis is that when you're in a
community that has more strict
definitions or practices of science you
have a responsibility and obligation to
respect them so you don't walk in and
flout and say you know what but i don't
keep that and it's not the strict
so who are you to tell me i have to no
that's
so there's a notion that we respect the
community that we're visiting we respect
the community that we're living in but
the same token when we're making the
personal decision for ourselves in
whatever community we're going to be we
should have some self-confidence we
should have some belief in ourselves and
we should seek these sources of
inspiration and guidance around us and
once they've weighed in to be confident
in the conclusion that we reach proud of
who we are and live our best to be a
better bassalia to live and to grow the
most that we can
okay
all right goldberg let's get into some
questions over here people sent in and
we still have a lot live we're gonna try
to cover as much as possible okay
absolutely
let's start with this um
we've learned to we belong to a certain
casitas i'm very happy however one of my
kids is struggling with this particular
community he's not rebellious he's a
firm kid but it's not acceptable to do
things differently here how do i deal
with this with him and with the
community
it's a great question that's a question
that's not even necessarily about the
shout out colonel in particular it's a
question about parenting and it's a
question about not outreach but in reach
retention how do we take our children
who maybe don't feel exactly that they
belong in that box because it's so small
and narrow and how do i write
classifiers we're talking about a kid
that let's say
and now he's more wants to be like this
or
more literature now becoming wrestler
so again my experience with myra baimaf
taught me is all you do is shower that
child with love the child shamu toro
mitzvos with that ashkaf or that
practice doesn't speak to them so what's
the alternative to stiff for them
suffocate them keep them in until
they're miserable till you drive them
away from from kite altogether
or to recognize they want to stay from
so it's not their way so it's not their
way i have mishpocha in lakewood and we
know that the
old school basement
learning talmud
and they have a child who became a
hassan and they shower him with love
it's beautifully shimmer torah mitzvos
he learns torah he's
what's there to be this is where we
should be uh upset this is where we
should be um disappointed
i i think that there's no alternative
but to shower them with love you know
we're not in the ghetto anymore kaiser
once lived in ghettos and there was a
certain whether it was forced from the
outside because the secular world didn't
welcome us in or whether we created a
structure that was insular that kept
people in but once upon a time we were
able to keep everybody in check i'm not
even sure that's true but we like to
live in the world to make believe that
once upon a time we could and in that
world a child went off to derek a child
into married we tore kriya we sat shiva
but the world has changed the world has
changed radically the world is open it's
wide open it is inviting and there are
opportunities to be exposed to learn to
practice to see to be and we have to
pivot we have to shift in our
expectations and the feedback that we
give so we should have expectations of
our children we should want them to be
the most that they could be in total way
but we should be proud yaakov avinu
wasn't proud that he was the father of
the shift they called the twelve
shavatim they weren't all cookie cutter
they didn't all exactly resemble him
they were different they were different
and yet he was equally proud of them all
because he repre he respected that they
were different schwartm the different
schwa themselves and the shahrukh khole
of the one who walks through the last so
i think that if a child is remaining
from and stark there's going to be total
of mitzvos but who wants to change their
sk orientation that hasidah speaks to
them
speaks to them by the way we have a
world and a rich history of of great
hasidis
who didn't come from the word of hasidis
and then they went for hashabas and they
said one speaks to my head he speaks to
my heart we know all these stories and
so i don't think there's anything wrong
i think they need to be showered with
love they need to be showered with
support they should be showered with
respect and there should be conversation
there should be conversation to be able
to navigate if there are differences how
are they navigated there's a fear the
parents have a fear that if he doesn't
he wants to change he's saying he's
going to stay that way but maybe he's
starting to
let go of
everything else
so again i don't know the specific
question do you have a kitty says
change that's what everybody's scared of
whichever way if you come back
some people are scared of that also more
lit fish
he's taking off his hat and now he's
thinking of his jacket and who knows
where it's going so there's a fear of
that appearance of not being able to say
what you're saying to shower with love
do whatever you want
but what's the alternative and the
alternative is to do what
what's the alternative that parent comes
to you and they say my child they don't
always want to learn nightstanders
there's a tissue they want to go to this
if i bring them they want to sit in two
and you're going to say what tommy terry
can i get cool
no you can't go to the tissue you can't
go to the fabric you can't consider no
player
good so you're teaching
they don't say i want to go to the
movies and i want to go to the game and
i want to go to the they're saying i
want to go to fabrian i want to go to a
tish i want to experience a different
something speaks to my neshama
differently
what's the alternative what are you
telling them
before you eliminate my way what's the
alternative there's an alternative
what's the alternative you say it's
beautiful you know shama you're from
it's it's it's you're a benalia that
night it's inspiring you fantastic
tomorrow morning we resumed the morning
seder that's it
what's the alternative
let's go right there okay joseph let's
go uh good evening rabbi goldberg um i
am a foreign i've been here for five
years uh i mean 20 years
um
i've tried many times to contact you and
never been able to get through so if
this question
is somewhat controversial then i
apologize
my my point is as follows that
tashkoffer drives a lot
unfortunately i've been involved in
a very difficult divorce
and why am i raising this point because
the best thing of america
refuses to ever put into seraph a woman
who's gone to our choice whereas in
other communities they follow the
holocrons and that to me is a serious
problem when upon him in the modern
orthodox community are always siding
with the woman no matter how many a
virus of alcoholism
they do whereas at least in the more
yeshivis community you find pockets that
are open-minded and let me
expound on this a little bit more this
is not only just
involving masira and irkos it's
involving breaking families parental
alienation and when men refuse to cut
you off let me just finish i'll be one
more second
when men refuse to keep getting because
their wives have violated
and
and and been involved in such serious
parental alienation and the modern
orthodox community always sides with the
woman always puts a seraph on the man
the best thing of america has never put
a cerebellum on a woman
then for you to make this kind of
general statement that we should all be
in one big tent i have serious issues
with you started off by saying
okay evan goldberg yeah joseph let me
let me respond in one sentence not sure
if it's okay where's joseph i'm so sorry
for your pain
i i hear that there's enormous pain from
your experience and i'm terribly sorry
for it this could be the first time in
history that the modern orthodox world
was called closed-minded and the
yeshivish world was called open-minded i
don't speak for the modern orthodox
world i don't speak for the basis of
america i don't speak for your
particular incident all i'll tell you is
this you could find online because i do
try to fight for ragunas and i do try to
advocate and i do try to stand up every
single time i've spoken about that
subject online or offline and you can
test me i always say it's not always the
woman who's innocent and the man is the
perpetrator i've been involved in cases
where the woman is practicing parental
alienation but the woman is manipulative
or the woman is exploiting and the
husband is the victim who deserves our
support every single time i say that
disclaimer and that's the way i
personally have tried to practice i can
only speak for myself i don't represent
and can't speak for others but i feel
your pain and i'm so sorry for it
here's an interesting question that came
in
i was born in the ultra swedish family
from curiosity
while i was growing up it worked but was
very hard
now bakshona married and decided to live
in a more out of town relaxed lifestyle
i'm getting a lot of negative feedback
and
as if i'm in a bad heat when in reality
i didn't choose to be brought up the way
i was and i'm 100 percent from and i got
issue and
what what could i do about this
the the questioner is asking what can i
do about this to do what to feel good
about myself
to go for pesach with my family and not
to feel like uh
what's what's the question he needs
physique and how to talk to his family
right so so you understand the nikuda
there is that what sounds like from the
question again if a person says i grew
up i was raised from
but it's too intense it's too
suffocating so i don't want to really
always keep shabbos or keep kosher i
want to walk away and help me feel that
i fit into the shahrukh khola i want to
be very clear as clear as am i being
clear that is not what we're talking
about tonight this is an individual
coach monaco the way you phrased the
question the individual says i'm still
firm
i lived in a community that has certain
mode of dress a community that a certain
culture a community that has certain
assumptions and expectations and i've
pivoted outside that community but i
remain from that's the question right so
essentially what the person is saying is
i've discovered what's working for me
and my relationship with the
ribonucleolum however i'm being made to
feel inferior i'm being made to feel
judged by others because i trimmed or
because i dress or because i do
differently still from kawaiito i gotta
share my diamond with a minion i keep
allah you can eat my home so the issue
here is not the person they're
comfortable and they've found what's
working for them the issue unfortunately
are others and a world that says this
shave it and this shave it only and
you're moved to the character you're
trying to live and draw from others
we're going to sit in judgment of you
we're going to marginalize you we're
going to make you feel inferior and bad
about yourself i don't think the problem
in that question is with the one asking
the question the problem is with the
other people in their life who are
making that feel that way i'll tell you
something about our community again some
would describe or define our community
as a non-orthodox community and in some
ways that's legitimate there are aspects
of our community that are modern
orthodox even though the fastest growing
segment of our community would not be
labeled from that world we have more
shirum and more daffy yomi's and more
minion and more learning and more
i'm incredibly proud of what we have and
what's going on and the world is moving
towards us in shul and shabbos
comfortable lakewood people who are
buying places down here and there's an
enormous diversity i say in our shul on
a shabbos morning you have a guy in a
strymon sitting next to someone who
drove to shul that child this morning
their first time in an orthodox show
bully guzma that is not an exaggeration
you can have that in our shul now you
might have that in other communities the
kiddush of our shul is that
i would say by the end of davening but
hopefully they're not talking during
davening after davening they didn't just
sit next to one another they've actually
developed a relationship and a
friendship shabbos morning on our show
we have nine minyana nine minyanam we
have a nate's minion and we have ashkama
minion and we have a base madrish minion
we have a nus fired minion a main minion
a new saharim indian
a teen minion an outreach minion nine
minion shabbos morning at brs nine
minion if you can't find a place you can
feel comfortable by either you want
something large you want something small
you want something quick you want
something slow you want they sing a lot
you want they don't sing at all you want
to sit up sit down kiddish or stand up
kiddish no kiddish you want a khabur
afterwards you want to sit down and have
a tish afterwards whatever nusa that you
want barak hashem we're trying to
provide and we have and you know ever
there are who moved exactly coach
menachem your question i came from such
and such a community i looked a certain
way i didn't feel comfortable i didn't
belong i wasn't comfortable in my own
skin i didn't meet the standards and i i
left part of it and i can't tell you
many people in our community because the
diversity and the respect that you don't
have to fit in a box that there are
different ways and paths and different
entrances to be able to come close to
kurdish
because that
judgment the the aura and the
environment of judgment was lifted from
them they are finally able to pursue
torah not from a sense of guilt and not
from a sense of pressure and not from a
place of fear but part of their own
journey of
and are learning more and observing more
than they ever were when they came from
whatever community they moved from that
the world might judge and say was a
former community so i think that it's
not only for those who are craving it
such as myself and many others who've
described that they feel comfortable
they want to belong they want to live in
that character but i think that when we
claw israel the more we promote that
there's a sense of diversity that there
are different paths the shivan panama
torah the more we make space and we make
room within the
framework the more we'll keep everyone
within
and the more narrow we make it and the
more judgmental it is those who don't
feel they fit and belong will simply
dismiss throw off the yoke and run away
and therefore i think we're doing not
only ourselves a service but the future
and the continuity of a total community
a great service
beautiful robin goldberg
you're on hi
hi i'm listening to you i've been joined
your you know your your talk
um i i get the sense that's geared
toward people from birth now as a but i
don't speak for all bali chuba
but i do i sort of did have the problem
that a little handicap that i'm
i just have orphaned so to speak i don't
i come from the missouri
my family was very secular for i so
it was important to me i mean i sort of
did the shabbos gypsy thing in the show
i explored different communities
but i felt that it was important to have
one or you know
as much as i i work in the mainstream
and everything and i enjoy seeing in all
kinds of jews
but i think that or wouldn't you say at
least for a ball too and they should
have a
specific
uh you community
i said i'll tell you i joined i'm with
khabad it's but not just because i i
like hasidis i feel that
at least it had a certain communal feel
i think
i mean would you recommend
i mean i would just say that a baltimore
would be more a specific community
um you know
you know you know schools there are
plenty of schools around
but
one that really would give you a you
know
i guess a sense of roots or you know you
know growth because again i don't have
the advantage of a mesora
you know
those nieces to you know just fall back
on in terms of you know learning
different observances and you know i
always admire the self-assurance
of these people who grew up that way
right now i appreciate it first of all
it's a great question although you
should probably turn this off and you
should be watching the kennedy
tonight if you're uh if you're in the
kaban just joking if you're in chabad uh
it's a great great question and i would
say the following
you're right
she's open-minded she's open-minded
hashem hashem i i would say this i would
say that many bali chuva first of all
have an advantage you don't also have
necessarily the hang-ups about from kite
uh that that those who are from from
birth have you come maybe with a cleaner
slate so there are disadvantages but
there are also some advantages aside
from the fact that
that where you stand and what you've
achieved and what you've accomplished by
making this great step in your life is
something that those who are born
righteous can't ever compare or compete
so kola kavod really tremendous
tremendous thing but very often about
shiva whoever was makari of them
whatever
excited them whatever turned them on
however they found andre into the jewish
people is the shay that they belong to
so many belong to khabad many belong to
ashatora or samaya mje
nir la ella the list goes on and on that
would ever shave it was the one that
first inspired that's the shade that
they belong to but i'll say here also
this vision or this thesis of a
sharacolo of exposing to the width and
breadth of what i'm going to in a moment
talk about as being hashembe
a philosophy of bachol the synthesis of
the total world of what's out there i
think is critically important for
balaycheva too we had in our community
many years ago somebody who became
religious became firm through they were
a very high profile a very famous person
because of certain accomplishment
achievement in their life in their
previous
career and they hook line and sinker
were inspired by i love
everybody knows how much i love khabar
we have a new sahara minion in our shul
and i feel very connected very inspired
i'm in awe of what does so this is not a
criticism of khabad but is a place
that's very narrow it's one shave it
that is very
very
it's its way
and this individual became from khabad
and didn't touch his beard he grew his
beard long to the floor and he went
around speaking and inspiring and he was
living the chabad life but you know what
he skipped steps
he was embracing some of the superficial
parts of living and observing life
without having filled in the gaps with
total learning and with knowledge with
other and he wasn't exposed that this
isn't the only way that there are other
practices of them and hugging other
viewpoints of their ashkafas and you
know what ended up happening
when when
because he skipped those steps and the
foundation was so weak the building came
crumbling down and for the time being we
hope and we darwin that he'll come back
for the time being he's no longer
observant because his whole
draw to from kite and his whole window
into firmkai was so narrow as about
shuva
that when he woke up and realized
why do i look like this and act like
this and do these things i don't even
know exactly why i'm doing it i don't
remember making the decision to do it
and i was just doing it because of the
pressure to fill in and do it and i
don't know that there's any other way to
do it so if it's either that or nothing
he returned to a life of nothing so i
think even within the bali chuva world
to expose and to inspire and to
encourage
and to promote that the shivan panama
tower the 70 faces of torah these are
not i i could quote again i don't know
how much time we have i can quote
countless makotos to you right now about
the shivan panama torah and about
illidan
is not only the
a lot of people like when you say
something they give a text like oh why
he's talking about about about this can
you clarify that we're not talking about
about any lakewood
we're talking in general
they're very sensitive they're
hypersensitive they're
shaving
and they get very nervous let's clarify
that and then move on because i want to
i think people like they don't realize
how sensitive they are 100
everybody's defensive everybody's
defensive for their shades
yeah 100 everybody's defensive and they
should be we're proud and we're
protective of our shaved and we should
be and nobody should bad mouth or judge
or feel uh superior to any particular
shavit so as long as the shvatim are
within the rubric under the umbrella
they're part of the world of the ulama
torah then nobody should be critical of
of the other so i wasn't saying it as a
criticism of khabar or of their
methodology of kiriv my point is simply
that for the baal shubha on the journey
themselves i think it's healthy to be
exposed to and to learn and even us
within trying to be makarev as we're
bringing people in expose them and teach
them and show them the beautiful
ulamatora not knowing what will speak to
whom when so that maybe when one thing
feels a little weak and it's no longer
speaking something else will resonate
and it will still go far so we have
makotis they get they're countless
makoros but there are makoros to this
notion that there isn't one
authoritative there isn't one correct
there isn't one categorically uh imposed
for all the shvatim one shaivet we have
eleven the idea that these and those are
the words of a living god applies not
only to allah it applies to
in some ways that applies even more in
ashkafa the rambam is perishing
in three places
the third paragraph is the first
paragraph and he writes it
this is the sheet of the rambam it's
not everybody agrees again there's a lot
to discuss there are a lot of makos but
the rambam in three places in paris
mishnais the ramen several places says
that when it comes to our dispute in
allah i need to know in deneboler do i
follow
or do i follow with moshe i want to know
in laws of brain death do i follow this
post think of that posting i want to
know in cash do i keep this standard of
that standard when it comes to
ultimately our observance of
allah we need a post sake we need to be
consistent within our sac to turn to a
post sake sac applies to the world of
but the rambam is clear that when it
comes to the world of hashkafa when it
comes to how i see the world how i
experience the world when it comes to
the totality of the rich beauty and
tapestry and diversity of the total
world the rambam writes when it's not
tahlissa myself
when it's not an actionable item and
it's not upset in allah in practice but
it's a question of my worldview then
you don't say that
one opinion we do not follow the rules
of sakh when it comes to
a level
of
we have options ironically i'll quote my
rebbe it quotes his rebbe or shechter
quotes from solavei and from the brisket
that there's no such thing as hashikafa
different
so just like sac applies to allah it
applies to
so my own rebbe wouldn't necessarily say
this or say this in this way but the
point is the point is that when it comes
to ashkaf you don't have to have a sock
you're able to say you know there's a
piece of cook that speaks to me but
there's also a piece of the satin rabbit
that speaks to me you call it
you can understand there's a piece of
what the rabbit says about this troll
speaks to me there's a piece of it of
course it's about the show that speaks
to me and there's a piece of because in
ash
one doesn't have to lock themselves so
you'll say i don't understand you'll say
coach menachem looks like he's about to
say
it's a styrum and they obey what do you
mean how could you all think of cooking
the samurai how could you hold this
ashkaffa and that ashkaffa
simultaneously you're going to say on my
wall in my office there's a beautiful
jew who lives in boca raton and collects
kiswayad
he's got a thousand kiss vayad going
back to bikinivega so for incredible
original handwritten letters manuscripts
amazing kiss veyard so this beautiful
jew lent me from my office several doll
easter all beautifully framed their
picture and kiss veyard
absolutely
and beautiful they're in my office with
letters original letters they've written
kids they had framed so on my wall side
by side i have the bachelorette
side by side
side by side i hope in the ulama emma's
somehow that mahlokus hashem has figured
itself out so how could it be i hold
both of the rabbit and
i turned to both of them for torah i
learned both of their torah yeah how
could it be it's a stereo bay how could
it be how could it be i could live in
the sharacolo when the two schwa when
the two tribes and the two entrances are
in conflict how do i deal with that so
we're not the first to ask that question
automatic student of hutner asked that
question
it's in
pakistan page 184 atomizer asked this
question and he said you know my secular
career i'm leading a double life i learn
torah but i also enjoy being exposed to
madha
hashem i see hashem's hand through rama
writes us we come to know hashem through
his creation chemistry biology physics i
see the yad hashem so i'm leading a dual
life i'm leading a double life i'm
leading a duplicitous life i'm a fake
i'm a phony i'm a fraud that's what the
talmud said to rafner i'm either in the
yeshiva or i might as well be a sheik
it's a guy i'm in the world of secular
knowledge how could i be in both surah
futner answered him and he said someone
who switches between living in a room in
a hotel and a room in their house if
you're living in your house you're
living in a room in a hotel you're
leading a double life which is your home
is it your home or is it the hotel but a
person who rents a house that has many
rooms is leading one life if you
synthesize them
and you bring them together and the core
and at the center is torah is hashem is
authentic torah then you're leading a
synthesized life you're leading a
synthesized life so
my my feeling in my shahara cola
attitude and life in which on any given
day i could be learning a piece of her
schecter and a piece of the minecraft
usher and a piece from the melech and a
piece from vichamire and drawing from
all over on any given day i could be
learning in this basement and then going
to that dish and then finishing at that
fabrian that it's not leading a dual
life it's not having multiple
personality disorder it's synthesis it's
integration we're weaving it into this
rich tapestry of living in a character
where these things are not contradicting
and they're not in conflict with one
another but they're synthesized together
we have a bunch of live but i want to
just jump in is what is when they do
contradict each other when you have
people that have to dive in before ski
or people that dive in three hours after
shia how do how does that connect
so when i went to square for yantef
so the first time i went i didn't
realize that they were davoning chakras
after this man way after this man so
my misora from where i come from that's
not acceptable so the next time i went i
brought a minion of guys and with the
rebbe's permission i found that
afterwards i didn't ask it was one of
those afterwards i found that he was
okay and he told me it was okay so i i
went into new square
and
i
took what i could out of that experience
of the vibrancy and the energy and the
tish and the sidkas of the rebbe and the
shirayam and the shallow shooters and
the lights out and all that i didn't
have in my world and didn't have growing
up and didn't have in my yeshiva but it
spoke to a very deep part of my neshama
and still does today i wear a tish
pakistan in my home and we have a
shallow shed in our shul where we sing
his moa david three times and he did
nephesh and kaiaksov and the lights are
out
and then there's a sheeran morning
akhabura in london
these things are not a stereo they're
not a contradiction to one another we
can synthesize them we can integrate and
we can live but we still have to stay
true to who we are in the world of allah
so the answer to your question is as
much as i love the world of new square
but my understanding i wasn't knocking
khabad i'm not knocking new square my
understanding of
doesn't allow davening in those monum so
i was still mocked but to dave and
maisman while still being able to live
and draw out from that beauty
okay beautiful they have a lot of live
questions um let's jump on them you're
on yeah
hi
say hello you are muted
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yeah hi
hi how are you thank you so much for
having us and this is this has been
amazing thank you so much robert
goldberg my question is we're we're kind
of experimenting with this question
right now
should one live in a community
that he doesn't necessarily always agree
with and feel comfortable with
personally from a hashgraphic level
what happens if this community is in a
higher madriga that you would like your
kids to get to the question is this a
stira for the children because we're in
a community that's a little bit more
yeshivish for us
but we know that from our perspective we
want the kids to have just a higher
level of learning that we feel
affirm
our children in this community but as a
father i don't always necessarily feel
like i fit in i don't always wear a
jacket or hats and things like that but
my kids i want them to have a higher
level of what i had at the same time
have some of the view that i took from
my more let's say more modern community
is this a stira is this a is this not a
great message enough and are we playing
with fire
it's a great question first of all come
move to boca raton but it's a great
question and and i would tell you a few
things number one i have to make a tenth
minion though
um
would be our greatest pleasure um so
i'll tell you a few things number one
there's absolutely nothing wrong with an
aspirational judaism there's nothing
wrong with faking it till you make it of
the life that you want for your children
to be better than ourselves now it won't
ever happen if we don't live it
ourselves there is no greater instrument
or tool or compass that is attuned to
hypocrisy than a child
children can call out hypocrisy faster
than anyone or anything else in the
world so if we're demanding of them but
not living ourselves it's not going to
work
how do we teach our children the midst
of talmud how do we teach our children
so you say no technology and don't watch
that nourish kite but they know that we
see and that we watch and that we have
it all shifted what are we doing in our
home electric we go on vacation we're on
a business trip do we take the ribosome
with us that is the greatest classroom
our children will ever have is what we
provide we have to be sincere we have to
be honest but at the same time we can be
aspirational for them i had an uncle all
of a sudden by eli lazar of liquid new
jersey my uncle about lazar so he was a
tremendous person after he was nifty
after he passed away they collected the
divrei torah that he said at family
simchos a beautiful gift a beautiful
contribution and now one of the muslim
of one of his grandchildren he said a
beautiful beautiful thought i've quoted
it many times because it speaks very
deeply to me he was such a such a
special person and lost the classroom so
he said you know we say the briss of a
baby
this beautiful inside there cotton yeah
what does it mean the more i got them
we're describing the sun the moon a
reflection a baby right now is only a
reflection of the parents they should
become a source of light themselves
countless beautiful divreitura
godot
he said something very simple he said
don't read it
don't read it may this small child one
day become great he said read it
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may this child be greater than me
because what happens in front
you know we find that in the world of
from kite many people most people i see
this across the spectrum of the torah
world they want their children to be
exactly like them
don't come five minutes later sure than
i come shay gets but don't go five
minutes earlier than i go what are you
holier than now you should go to shul
exactly the time i go learn exactly the
amount that i learn
follow the exact tashkakas in kashus
that i follow
many people want their children to be
done out from me but khalil don't under
from me be exactly where i am so he said
what do is what's our bra bris what are
we hoping for
me here could there be anything greater
in the world than a child surpassing a
parent revival
so he was once uh at a public forum and
a parent got up and asked her luckily he
said you know my child went to israel
and goats of a front and my child came
home and my child is questioning our
kashus and i'm turning to you as one of
those yeshiva who are inspiring these
children flipping them out what can be
done about it my own child came on is
now doubting my
i'm livid i'm upset i'm disappointed i'm
frustrated how could it be so if luxem
said i said you know i have a child who
also went to a different yeshiva than
i'm the rest of shiva of and went to a
different derek and came home and had
certain homers and cashews had certain
questions in my kitchen
and i want you to know i've never been
prouder in my life that my son wants to
be even more mahmir castrous we made
whatever changes gladly and i couldn't
be more proud of his son today the
rashiva of torvadas it was good enough
for have lachestein it can be good
enough for us but our hope should be for
our children to surpass us so it's a
beautiful wish that you have and i give
you a bra
our children should be as inspired and
more inspired but back to your question
so is it hypocritical to live in that
community here's the reality the reality
is there's almost no perfect exact
community that any of us are going to
fit in entirely we're going to make
concessions we're going to adapt we're
going to be flexible we're going to have
to supplement most people when it comes
to the education of their children the
yeshiva the seminary the school the
musiako whatever you send your children
to
it's not exactly a perfect fit
so some have to supplement more total
learning some have to supplement more
love of israel have to supplement more
secular education academics most of us
recognize that we're going to choose the
one that's most aspirational and
supplement on the side and i think if
that's your attitude that says we're in
a community that represents our
aspiration i want my children to live
this and to aspire for this it's not
entirely me where i am now but it's
where i hope to be and where i'm trying
to be and i'm gonna supplement the parts
that i believe in and i care about that
aren't part of this community so that my
children will graduate my home parents
underestimate their influence the
yeshiva the school's a big influence the
community and friends are a big
influence but ultimately children look a
whole lot like what they saw at their
shabbos table so when we supplement and
when we complement and we emphasize
what's important and what matters to us
even with what else they're getting
elsewhere we are rounding out the child
as a whole
beautiful beautiful okay let's go back
is your mic working now
i hope so do you hear me
okay
okay so as a parent of a few kids still
figuring it out i occasionally bump into
other kids around town who look just
like my kids looked as they started that
winding journey but i only have that one
minute as like i passed by them to show
them i love my compassion i understand
things i smile but that kid might still
walk away with his narrative everyone's
judging me
because they consider themselves judged
regardless and i want to just take this
opportunity to tell all those people who
feel
judged that maybe
you're assuming the worst about the
lifestyle that you left behind without
sufficient evidence that we are all
actually judging you
thank you very much for taking this
opportunity i echo that i think it's a
fantastically important comment
unfortunately a vocal minority might
make people feel away but it's important
for everyone to look in and
recognize that that's the minority it's
not the majority the majority from the
totality of the beautiful total
community are loving and warm and
hopefully non-judgmental and
unfortunately sometimes people have a
bad experience from uh the yacht from
the individual but i think it's a very
very important comment that you made
i'll tell you a great story of ravi
levin
it's one of my favorite stories at sadiq
in our time that's sad that you shall
negotiate
everyone knows he was the rob of
beautiful little uh neighborhood of
little alleyways near makhanihudan
it was the rav of the prisoners the rav
of the etsa and the
he was the rav of the lepers
was the great sadiq of yerushalayim so
there was a boy who grew up in nakhlot a
very from boy a yerushami boy he grew up
very religious and at some point he
decided to take his yama coffee he
decided to not be religious anymore so
he avoided revilin for many months ravi
levin would walk one way he went down a
different alleyway whatever he did he
always looked with a watchful eye to see
if the topic was walking so he could
avoid him and not have to run into him
but one day lo and behold he turned the
corner punk there was ravari levin there
was nothing you could do to avoid it so
ray levin the greatest alex said to this
boy who he knew since his bar mitzvah he
said tell me i haven't seen you in so
long i can't help but feel that you're
avoiding me have i done something to
offend you have i done something to hurt
you i'm so sorry how come i haven't seen
you so the boy very sheepishly very shy
looking down ashamed said
rebbe to tell you the truth you've done
nothing but i'm no longer the person i
was when you knew me as a child i'm no
longer wearing a yamaka and i was so
afraid so embarrassed so shy so ashamed
to run into you surviving said to him
the following he said listen to me i'm a
very short man i can only see what's in
your heart i can't see what's on your
head
that's what vadi levin said
did a viral video care about torah and
mitzvos
was very levine some open-minded modern
pluralistic and violent if it was the
sadiq of yerushalayim but it was good
enough for a violent event that saddam
to turn to this boy and make sure that
even though he had walked away what do
you think of the van yelled shaky gets
he throw rocks at him did he tell him
how could he
no he said to this boy i'm a very short
man i can't see what's on your head i
can only see what's in your heart
here's another interesting question that
came in
my husband is extremely close-minded
he still lives in the 80s he doesn't get
it that philip the final world has
changed how do i explain to him
that being open-minded is not a ghost i
think
being open-minded is not a gay issue
thing
well again you have to define what
open-minded means you have to define
what open-minded means
every time you learn how you're
open-minded no you only learn the
mechaba
you learn the best
how do you define open-minded
you only learn
what does it mean open mind anything
different
okay so again
our whole system of total learning
is the journey of analyzing different
views now there's a system that guides
us towards a conclusion of those views
when it comes to soccer when it comes to
halacha but our whole experience of
total learning is to see different views
is to understand different viewpoints is
we're going to end safe herbaceous with
the shift daika we're not going to end
with one definitive
shavit you know every generation there
was a yitzhak and there was the ishmael
there was a yakov and there was an asap
there was a yosef and there was a yuda
yosef and his brothers in fact as a
perisher says why didn't you say if when
he's a mitzvah never contact his father
yaakov he rises to the viceroy of egypt
he could have contacted yaakov why
didn't he so there's an understanding
that suggests because all that yosef did
is he looked he looked at his father he
looked at his grandfather looked at his
great finger and father he said every
generation there was the chosen one and
the rejected one i must be the rejected
one i was thrown away so he didn't even
bother reaching out
of course that wasn't the case yosef was
yosef and the reunion was was
unbelievable but the schwarten
the different schwartham represents the
fact that we have these different
viewpoints there's a beautiful inside of
the emazlyakov river of kaminetsky i
told you i have many many makoros and
i'm happy to go there and to share many
to share many more raviyakov kaminsky
yakov he says the following he says and
safe about midbar we have the golem we
know the camp the tribes encamped around
the mishkan and the midbar and they were
to the north the south the east and the
west which tribes were designated to go
where and the tribes the the shvatim
they weren't just arbitrary every shade
that had a logo every shade that had an
insignia every shade that had an
identity every chevrolet had an
individuality there were times in jewish
history the schwartman's allowed to
marry into one another the shvatim were
separate they were distinct they were
apart from one another so the question
of yaakov asks is i don't understand
in the midbrain you have the
how come
there wasn't tremendous period in
claustro how come there wasn't enormous
macho locus in class so how did they all
get along how did they work it out he
writes
hello
the moment we left midtown we left under
separate logos separate flags several
insignias separate yarmulkes separate
schools so i don't understand
how does it not create a sense of
pirouetal of us
had a different identity had different
goals had a different aim so why didn't
it divide why didn't it destroy why
didn't it obliterate claudia so that we
were all separate so listen to what he
says he says
you know why there was no division you
know why there was no locus you know why
there was no fallout because at the
center of the encampment set the mishkan
as long as the mishkan is the center of
our diversity
we have a tagline in our shul the
tagline of our shul is valuing diversity
celebrating
unity how did we arrive at that tag line
from the semester yank of review author
our tagline i'll never know it now he
knows it but he authored our tagline
what does that mean valuing diversity
you know we use that term diversity
diversity
it's a terrible term
we tolerate diversity we tolerate
diversity the word tolerates a terrible
term you tolerate slow wi-fi and you
tolerate a bad rash and you tolerate a
delay on your amazon package you don't
tolerate a fellow jew to tolerate
diversity the sri dish has an essay
he's writing to reform a conservative
and he says stop tolerating me i want
you to love me and i'll love you jews
don't tolerate one another they love one
another so we don't tolerate we value
the diversity some people say i tolerate
diversity there's someone on my block
there's a kid in my kid's school there's
somebody i know they're different i'm
willing to tell we're very diverse but
they tolerate the diversity we don't
tolerate fellow yidden we love them we
embrace them we see the best in them you
don't so we value diversity the problem
with diversity is diversity could lead
to divisiveness diversity like the
embassy anchor if yaakov says the
separate tagalog separate logo separate
insignias could lead to mahlokas it
could lead to period it could lead to
division so how does the diversity not
lead to
how does the diversity not lead to a
division the answer is when you
celebrate unity we don't celebrate
uniformity uniformities everyone has to
look the same vote the same be the same
act the same dress the same we don't
believe in uniformity we believe in
unity you can only have unity when you
have diversity if you don't have
diversity you don't have unity you have
uniformity so
bianca writes that the schwa they were
so you say how do i know i should be
open-minded was yaakov avinu open-minded
yours have open-minded you're
open-minded we have twelve swat time i
didn't make this up this is not new i
didn't introduce this in our in our
generation this is our history shivan
panama torah and the shift take call and
rehearse writes about the rainbow
mcdubbell and the diversity of the
colors one prison the ribosome comes
through and he's refracted in separate
rays of light and with yaakov writes the
mishkan is at the center of this
diversity we don't have to be afraid we
don't have to be afraid i could learn a
package
i could learn the raven of cook i could
also learn
raviche meyer and i could learn a
friedlander and i could learn all these
worlds of marshava and then not a steer
to one another if i live in one house
with separate rooms if i live in
separate buildings of hutner it's a
syrah but if i live in one house with
separate rooms i don't have to be afraid
i'm richer for it i'm better for it i'm
more inspired by it i'm closer to the
bonus room as a result of it well watch
what you tell her husband
about being open-minded what should she
tell her husband
he does he doesn't want to hit us this
is
like it says
okay so first of all why does she have
to maybe she could be open-minded even
if it's closed-minded why does she have
to impose her open-mindedness on him why
can't she have her pursuits while
her kids
oh so that's a practical question how do
you navigate how do you negotiate the
practical implication and application of
choosing children but if you're telling
me that there are things that speak to
her that don't speak to him he's locked
into a shape that he's comfortable there
he's entitled to it too let me defend
the husband for a second i was accused
earlier of not defending husbands let me
defend the husband for a second the
husband married her and mistama there
was a shotgun and mustama they got
married on the terms that they're going
to live a certain shave it she's
changing the rules not him he says i'm
locked into the shave it who are you now
come you want to break down the barriers
of our shavette you're joining goldberg
sharacolo get back here we're in the
shavit this is the terms of our marriage
of the shavit so that's a shalom by
shiloh and that needs to be navigated
negotiated it needs to be discussed
can she
pursue broader interests can she
have can she nourish her open mind in a
way that won't compromise him and the
shape it that he lives in she's not
going to advocate that the children also
need to read or watch or be exposed
she's going to let the children be the
children let the children live and shave
it even while for herself and her own
avodah she feels she wants to see more
very
got good okay
um i have one more live but they're
getting on the middle song on their
different names because they're probably
computer i want to ask this question
it's a very very powerful question
somebody just sent it in actually
how do you teach children growing up in
their
in a community that branches of jewish
world have something specially unique
about them while we choose to live in in
similar communities for certain
spiritual invasions even look that look
more modern may have certain strengths
and specific areas that we don't so for
example somebody lives in this thing we
raise our children this little bubble
but yeah where how do they know that
that the idiom boca raton there's a
rabbi goldberger it was a nice hush for
year that has so many miles that we
don't have vice versa so i here's i want
to destroy your premise the premise of
that question in my humble opinion
i would say unless you're living in the
most insular society and i would argue
even there the premise is wrong but
certainly if you're outside the most
insular society the premise of the
question is wrong we're not protecting
our children and we're not insulated
that's what i find to be
kind of the joke of the whole
conversation as if i'm saying or
something radical the reality is flip
through
magazine magazine or even ahmadiyya
flip through them and you'll see the
countless jewish organizations and the
diversity of the speakers that they're
putting forth they began to promote the
agoda convention you go to the aguda
convention and the aguta convention is
advocating exactly what i'm saying now
they're doing it maybe a more narrow
sense that i'm saying so for example
they're not inviting enough shector they
didn't invite rabbi lord jonathan sacks
to speak at the agora convention maybe
it's a more narrow sense but they have
hasid them they have mistaken
they have sparred him they have
balabatham they have rabonan the good at
convention itself is providing
a cola for people so again maybe it's
not as broad as i'm suggesting the
character could be but the idea that
anyone today and from tufts and bembez
is locked in the idea that anybody is in
such an insular insulated world in which
all they have is they're ready they're
not watching they're not listening
they're not reading they're not going to
the convention the conference of anybody
else
it's just not happening it's not
happening
part of what
why we've arrived at this point part of
why i feel this way
is because of technology it has been a
game changer it has changed the world in
which we're living go on torah anytime
forget why you torah go on torah anytime
go on any of the plethora of torah
websites that we are
extraordinarily blessed to have in our
time and go see the width and breadth of
the diversity of the people speaking on
those websites men and women
you'll see the within breath so this is
not me like everybody's really locked in
they have one rebbe they read one
newspaper one newsletter from their
rebbe and no one sees anything else in
the world and here i am with this
radical idea open your mind and be
exposed to other things you think you're
not exposed to other things every time
you turn on
throughout corona especially it was the
only way that we were connected and
every organization had these multiple
speakers
my dear friend charlie and lari i love
charlie harrari do you think charlie
arary belongs to one world you think
this speaker belongs to that one world
you think this the ou has its convention
as good as its convention and they are
putting forth diverse personalities
diverse speakers this what you do every
sunday night and the diverse speakers
that you present is exactly an
expression and a manifestation of what
i'm advocating for you're bringing on
500 600 400 b participants just live who
knows by a month from now how many will
have watched it after the fact you're
bringing on a thousands of people and
you are exposing them to diverse
personalities you're taking a risk
having a guy like me on you're exposing
them to diverse personalities because my
point is that fundamentally this is how
we're all living already so if we're
living it already why are we apologizing
and why are we defensive and why are we
ashamed and why are feeling guilty let's
embrace it and let's harness it and
let's channel it and let's protect it
and let's make sure that we have strong
boundaries for it but we're essentially
doing it already we're doing it already
so again i want to come back if you
belong to a shavit and you're
comfortable and happy there
he should become an ashkenazi if a
person belongs to a shavit in their
world view and their personal practice
in the missouri tradition
live there enjoy it it's beautiful it's
wonderful don't
i'm not asking you to change
all i'm saying is if you're like me and
you don't belong to any one world and
you don't want to be locked in a box and
you recoil when someone says he's a
modern orthodox rabbi no one's ever said
this but he's a hasidish rabbi he's a
lit for sure rabbi he's an ashkenazi
rabbi you know in our show how connected
i am to our spartan and how familiar
i've become over the last 23 years let's
find him and hug him in practices i'm a
safari rabbi
we have six daughters and we had one son
our son is our seventh after our six
daughters bar hashem when he was born we
don't take it for granted we want to
give a bracha to everybody who's longing
and desperate and wants to have children
we burna shalom should give you children
and grandchildren it's an enormous
broker no one should ever take it for
granted when we had our son after six
daughters
it was unbelievable so because we lived
the shahrukh khole
every part of our community
wanted to celebrate his birth according
to their minhag so we had a british we
had a shalom zakhar we had a we said
shema the night before at the bruce we
had all of them in hagem it was a
beautiful thing it was a beautiful thing
so again if a person is comfortable and
to shave it live there but if you're not
sure what shape that you're in or you
feel that a piece of you belongs in
different shavatim and you're
integrating and incorporating it and
you're in the shahrukh khole then join
me then welcome then we're together
there's room for us there's a world
there's a community of us and we don't
need to be apologetic or ashamed and
i'll just end by saying i'm not ending
the whole night i'm mending this little
piece by saying why is this so important
to me why is this so important to me
because the world around us
and the wrong influences in the wrong
around us have a vested interest in
keeping us apart they have a vested
interest in keeping us apart some of the
leadership and this i'll say cynically
that some of the people who profit off
of are having divisiveness
the people who made a career and profit
off of our having mahlokas between one
another of keeping us separate and apart
of trying to create an antagonism
between us
they have a vested interest in labeling
us and putting us in a box and keeping
us apart and making us separate but we
don't have to let them win and we
shouldn't let them win on our podcast i
give a little shameless plug for behind
the bema on our podcast we had ellie
pelay the founder of mishbaka magazine
and he spoke about part of the the
shbaka magazine is to create social
change that people did not know you know
if you were part of one world you didn't
read about godolm of another world you
weren't exposed to the shiva and
parliament of godless in torah and their
social chain introduction opening
people's mind that he has achieved and
that he wanted to do and that he wanted
to do so there are forces that are
opposed and working against what i am
advocating they want to keep us separate
they want to keep us apart they want to
keep us locked in they want to say
you're a why you guy you're
guy you're a lakewood guy you're they
want us to be a part but we don't have
to let them separate us we can transcend
and rise above it and we can say i'm
part of it all i sat in the different
sheram and i learned the difference farm
and i connect to it all
unapologetically and with pride and i'm
better and i'm richer for it i think
this is the vision of ava mavino
success in last week's passion
so there was a certain world view the
ebenezer says bako means he was born
with
usher the kavod
allah that a person can have but that's
not true because right after he was
blessed with everything he goes to look
for a wife for yitzhak so obviously
didn't have everything so what does it
mean that he had everything so there's a
beautiful beautiful inside of what it
means hashem
bacon means that avraham had a panoramic
perspective he saw the rabona shalom
everywhere he wasn't threatened and he
wasn't defensive and he wasn't scared
for avon avinu there was a panoramic
view of the world and he saw the reborn
shalom and everything he discovered
hashem he promoted hashem and he and he
found hashem and everything it was with
a sense of bakol
he gave him a bracha to live a life in
which he didn't have to isolate and we
didn't have to lock in and he'd have to
be in a box hashem gave him a bracha
that hashem
it was a panoramic view in which he saw
the world and he saw the ribbon
you know we say
the world is filled so the simple
means that hashem has opinion on the
whole world but this foreign
the world is filled with opportunities
to make a kenyan hashem
avraham had this perspective this
panoramic view this ability this vision
to see hashem everywhere but he didn't
just have it he gave it to yitzchak who
gave it to yaakov and that's what we say
in our benching is that we longed for it
so you see that there's a transmission
of this sense of coal we have the
capacity for a panoramic view of the
world we have the capacity to put on
glasses that see hashem everywhere
to make a canyon of hashem all around us
not only with this rebbe or the safer
not only with the sanhagra this misora
but all around us
and we dive in and we long back on mikko
ko we want that coal we want that
panoramic view we don't want to see so
myopically if you have a myopic view you
you're missing so much all around you
but if we have this panoramic view then
you see hashem you see the richness of
hashem i wish i could take my camera
right now i'm at home and show you my my
base measures my study at home the
different forum that are here and the
diversity of this forum that i hear this
farm that i try to learn because i feel
i'm only that much better because of it
okay let's go to this live question
you're on
i can't hear you
no this mic's not working
no he's not yeah i'm here
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okay how was that much better okay thank
you so much for taking my question i
want to thank the hosts i want to thank
um rabbi goldberg uh unbelievable words
and um
very very uh exciting and the delivery
and answer of all your questions and
thank thank the listeners as well
uh for the opportunity to ask this
question
um my question has to do with um
where we know
or minak zutara so like akipa we know at
one point in time it was a minute and
we know stories where people were most
are nefesh and literally gave up their
lives in some cases to make sure that
they were keep up their story after
story
um it's a practical question but
i'm in between two uh two mountains
which is often where i find myself i
think that's like the the place of a yid
right we went through you see us
we went on yam so if we had over here we
had over here we have a derek in the
middle that we're trying to
transverse to find the middle path so
that's the spirit of my question here um
i heard something you know the nephilim
says that some people think there are
there are there are kahilas that think
that vegas and we know zunda malach that
to heal him is he asked it that hillary
is the vegas and the nephilim says
says not like that that's not the
icker's vegas right um
there's another mysore that that
happened to me i asked an altamira i was
talking to an altamira once used
yeshiva i once learned in
and
um
he said that revolver used to go and
learn um he used to go and learn
caesarea by uh and i've based in i think
in petak tikvah who was a hassida shaid
and revolving went to go learn and and
this ultra mirror went to go ask that he
was very curious about hasidis and the
derek
of qasidis and he went to this base then
and he asked him to teach him the derek
of so when he answered him was like this
um he asked him he asked him where's
your father from where's your
grandfather from lita where did he learn
in the mirror and where did you learn in
the mirror and he said so it's not for
you it's not for you and he said but why
i'm very very interested i'm open to
this and he said you'll come out the
other side a challenge with no time
that's what he said to him
now at the same time i was being invited
to go to uman many many times and i just
i was busy i never went but this same
altamira said i asked him if there's a
value to it for me maybe and he said i
have to tell you there's something to
hearing a maniac may rabbah in front of
ten thousand people you know there's
something special about that so he even
he had this you know there was a duality
there then then there's a myself with my
shapiro that you know he had a daughter
who passed away very very young
and and with this i'll end my question
and i heard from a big time of huffman
yerushalayim the name of nathan weiss
that
rivamaisha was struggling with something
he was struggling with how much to hit
him was enough to save for his daughter
who was terminally ill before it became
little terror
so that's a huge huge matrix i mean i
get chills every time i i tell that
story i certainly feel the same chills
from the first time i heard it when
halakhah and these things it's not so
easy to pluck somebody out of their
shave it you know there was a raven
usually they told me to learn
it was having some questions and we
learned the kuzari together secretly and
uh secretly we had to learn the kozari
secretly and it was beautiful we
developed a very very nice a very very
nice relationship um i certainly had no
intention of taking it i had no
intention of making him into a clown you
know a 13th gate yet or anything i
respected where he came from and i
respected his questions eye to eye
what what happens when there's
you know if a mini zootara
how easy it is to sort of say you know
this 13th gate is great and and it is
great i hear the the godless coming from
you really goldberg and i respect it
tremendously uh it makes me want to come
visit boca um but you know do you
understand the question sort of
in between these yeah let me let me
rephrase the question first of all thank
you so much josh for sharing the
question and those stories and your farm
in your background i'm trying to see
what i can learn about
that
yeah i'm trying i'm trying to check it
out i'm trying to check it out um you
know it it's a complicated question you
know revolver's grandson just moved to
our community in boca i'll give a little
flex little plug and you know i was
talking to him about his grandfather he
grew up very close to his grandfather
ravel barasana was in the army and he
welcomed him back to his yeshiva in his
in his army clothing
revolve himself was a very complex
person and revolba's own background
which we don't have to get into in terms
of at one point revolve but discovered
yiddish kite is in itself a fascinating
history and the background arguably
israel i don't think we're necessarily
now against panama goddess we have
different godol israel who functioned
and conducted themselves differently in
different ways as well but ghidoli
israel are not afraid by this guidoli
sorel had extraordinary relationships
with one another the rav and rafner and
the rebbe they were in berlin they were
in university together and they they
shared a relationship that went on a
tremendous respect for one another our
our our godolan were able to see the
goddess of different worlds they were
respectful they were respectful i think
this needs to be said that even those
who feel comfortable in their shave it
and they're proud of their shavit and
they're happy in their shave it should
minimally make a respect for others
to not criticize and condemn and put
down to not feel that their shave it can
only be correct if they knock others
down you know in the parachute
there are so many miracles there are
four miracles that happen there are four
ways that they're abortion and
possibilities that motion are another
leaders not kodak
what do i need for okay it's enough the
ground opened up and swallowed them up
mama
unparalleled unprecedented you had to
knock a miracle miracle miracle do you
know what the answer is
there's two ways that you can be higher
than someone
either by knocking them down below you
or by your rising up so until then the
ground had opened up and they fell in
now they took the staffs and they fl and
they blossomed with flowers because to
make sure that motion iron were not the
leaders the default leaders because
everyone else was knocked down they were
the leaders because they blossomed above
so some people in their shaved feel i
can only feel pride and i'm only
confident of my shavit if i criticize
condemn and knock down all the other
schweitem be happy with your shape
without having to criticize any other
make room for the other shwater love the
other sweater respect the other shwater
even if you're comfortable and even if
you're happy in yours so you should come
back to your question let me rephrase
your question your question is an
impressionable young man or woman who is
yet to have any sense of holding an
ashkafa satora who's just at the
beginning they're going to be a
challenge how will they make sense of
him how will they know how to live who
are they and where do they fit in how do
they belong if from a very early age in
an early stage they're already exposed
to everything so if you're everything
you're nothing
to whom do you belong and what are you
is that your question
sort of
okay so so
he's muted but i think that's his
question
i'm still trying to figure out how to
apply the zoom rules to real life she
room how you can mute and unmute and
knock out and put in the waiting room
and chat if we could only incorporate
these zoom rules to real life shirum
what a beautiful world that would be
anyway so yoshi i think the answer is
that when i'm advocating the sharacolo
i'm not necessarily advocating it at the
earliest and most impressionable age i
think a person does have to have a rebbe
and does go to ishiva seminary and is in
a certain path or track of life they
have parents and they have grandparents
and they have a community what i'm
talking about is as we become more
sophisticated and as we advance and as
we begin to broaden our own horizons
which is true in life in general the
first and second grader has a much
different
more narrow understanding of life than
the person who's further further along
and further on than others so i'm not
necessarily saying that we should do
this at the earliest stage in the
earliest there's a piece of me that by
the way wants to create a movement
of yeshivas in elementary schools and
kulalim of sharacolo who are the yidden
who are stark and frumkaite banayaliya
you're a shamayim torah but who belong
to the character there's a piece of me
that wants to create a whole movement
but then i wake up and the reality of me
sets in which is not necessarily that
early not necessarily that stage i'm not
advocating it first thing a little bit
later on to be able to get there to be
able to do it after i wrote this article
called i'm not a modern orthodox rabbi
some people were very unhappy with me uh
but after i wrote this article i learned
of a community somewhere else
that started a thursday night
they get together diverse chevra and
they have diverse limu and they're
trying to be exposed to and to learn and
to embrace some of the things that they
never knew before you know what it's
like you know
it's an amazing amazing insight there
was a talmud of the
who who writes
that what's the navi anticipating
hashem so he writes he's describing our
time where you have hundreds of
thousands of shirum online and you have
countless sort of in every language
there's there's endless amount that can
nourish us and yet we're thirsty for
divre hashem something that speaks to
arnashama something that speaks to who
we are and that wakes us up and that
makes us come alive we're looking for it
and when we find it we don't have to
feel bad about it as long as again it's
within the legitimate boundaries of the
ulamatora we don't have to feel bad
about it we don't feel bad about it so
i think that we'd have to be apologetic
and again there's no if you're gonna
shave it there's no obligation to go
there is an obligation to be respectful
of the other shorthand there's no
obligation to trade vatim you don't have
to necessarily remain in your shaver you
can belong to a shavit but vacation
another shot see and be exposed to but
for those who say i'm not in any shavet
i live in the characolo that's where i'm
happy that's where i live then come join
me i see a few people have asked where
we can learn together so it'd be my
greatest honor if you learned together
with me online there's a website rabbi
from goldberg.org you can find
everything there or on youtube dot com
slash rabbi from goldberg or on waitora
or
i write a lot for aish and uh
occasionally in mishpoch and other
places but it would be my greatest
greatest honor in the world if you join
me and we learn together i give a
parashat class every tuesday
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i'm very humbled it has a very nice
following but what's the feedback i
always get why people enjoy it because
in any given particular sheer on any
given parish this year you never know
who you're going to get that week we go
through the parasha and there could be
there's a caduceus levy and then there's
a piece from sullivan and then there's a
griz and then there is a
vichamir then there's a maral grayer
then there's a
semes and then there's a this hasidus
and then there's a little lumdus and
then there's
and the whole parsha is a journey of the
sharacolo it's that all these different
worlds have something to say about
parsha they're all using the same pasha
in order to communicate in order to
inspire in order to be relevant in order
to be part of this world so i i just
it's such a beautiful place it's a
beautiful place not everybody has to
come but for those who want to be there
we should be comfortable unapologetic
and we should know that we're not alone
that's the main thing the reason i wrote
that article and the feedback i got is
that sometimes it feels very lonely it
feels very lonely there's this clever
and there's that shave it and there's
this movement and there's this sheet and
there's that world and if i feel
comfortable in lots of places and if i'm
drawing from many places it could feel
very very lonely you're not alone and
don't feel lonely there's a seaboard
there's a community of people who feel
like you
are goldberg murdoch let's go now to the
closing parts
closing i thought we're just getting
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you every goldberg
it's really uh eye opener for many
um
but i just want to and i just want to
put out that piece that's
um some people sent in that there is a
fear and it could be hard for many
it's much easier to belong one place
and uh
it does take more thinking and trying to
figure out where you are
and you have to be ready for it and like
ravi goldberg mentioned
at a young age you might it might not be
good eye to start eventually you get
older
you want to see you know what works to
me what does hashem want from me
and i guess the age depends and
everybody everybody's different so you
have to see if you're solid where you
are and if you're ready to open that box
and uh let in some fresh air and see
what's going on which
which we see anyways
but yes a lot of people need that sense
of belonging and
knowing that this is where i am and i
don't have to think
they're not ready to think so much
sometimes it could be a a journey
and i've i've met many people who once
it's not the way they grew up they have
to go through
it's it's a challenge and that's part of
growth to see you know what does work
what doesn't work and he's trying out
and then
there's ups and downs which you don't
like you want to stay in your back stay
in your comfort zone
so yes it is a challenge but that's
growth and that's might be what hashem
wants him
and the last thing is
that
whenever you go out you know you go out
the door kiss the mezuzah before you try
anything new where you're going to look
anywhere try something new say it's
vilita
shem this is something that i'm working
to get closer to you
and help me to find the place where i
can connect
something that talks to me
and the journey shouldn't be so hard so
wherever it is and whoever you are phil
is always needed so thank you very much
and mr chairman would be able to take
this information to grow and get closer
to hashem
amen so i'll just say in closing for
echo everything that coach monaco just
said and and i understand the attraction
of staying in the box
i understand the the appeal it's
comfortable it's convenient it's
familiar
you can trust yourself other people know
exactly who you are if you stay in the
box and if you're comfortable in the box
it's beautiful live there live there
happily and live there comfortably
but the reality of the world we're
living in is that boxes are corroding
they're falling apart around us
even the people who want to live in the
box to a certain degree can't because we
are exposed to we're invited to we have
opportunities to learn to see and i
think that if we're in charge and
controlling it if we're filtering it and
channeling it if we are promoting it
then we could do a much better job of
being kosher of yoshi than if the box
just disintegrates and people find
themselves in unfamiliar circumstances
so the degree to which that we can share
and promote the ulamatora the shahrukh
khole the in panama torah the
that we can respect one another and we
can love one another and we can make
room for one another and that even if
we're proud and comfortable we are we
recognize that there are other paths and
there are other opportunities and one is
not superior or inferior to another to
the best we can learn from it and if
even if we don't learn from it minimally
we can respect it and in the end all of
it will make us much richer for it it'll
be a much more beautiful world
if a person feels connected to amer then
kulam sadiq as long as you're part of
amer so we should be zoha to value our
diversity and to celebrate unity with a
sense of
that
comes everybody knows the
everybody knows the poem about mashiach
you know the mashiach
which hat he keeps coming to a different
place he's wearing the wrong hat by the
end he gives up and he says they're not
ready for me yet so i'll tell you
whenever ellie mansoor spoken or sure
once he said again i'm self-promoting
but too bad you invited me on so i'm
going to promote our community in
closing everyone's invited you're
welcome to come bro
said he said you know i think mashiach
is going to come through here first on
his way he said and i'll tell you why he
said because you know when you have a
parent let's say you have a lot of
children this child doesn't talk to this
child this child doesn't get along with
that child the child will never host
this child that child doesn't get along
with that child but then you have a
child one of your children who has all
of their siblings this is the child
where they're all comfortable coming to
this is the child where they have the
reunion nap because they're all okay
being there that's where the parent
wants to be most where does the parent
want to be if not among the child where
all the children could feel comfortable
so he said
comes he's going to come through this
school because all the children have a
place and all the children can feel
comfortable there's a place for everyone
here nobody's being locked out so we
should value our diversity celebrate our
unity in the right time we should open
our minds not too early and not with the
wrong reasons in a way that we can
celebrate the sense of actus in order
ultimately become shamayim to get close
to the ribbon of shalom in order
ultimately to live the amitabh torah and
amit hashem to be able to celebrate the
mayor of maine
for coming on beautiful see everybody
next sunday night november 7th uh 9 30.
looking forward let's get real coach
monachem and we're changing the name to
let's get real with coach menachem
good night