Be on Time for Prayer - Part 2 - Rabbi Reuven Lauffer

we know to the morning yesterday so we looked at the times for for getting up you know dawn sunup till in Dallas davin in the chamar diving in the air meter what we're going to do now is we're going to take a look at the from the middle of the day onwards so a concept called consort what is cut taught so cats are these the middle of the day not not necessarily twelve o'clock midday but rather the middle of the day like we spoke about yesterday we discussed how you how you work out how you calculate the hours that you've got catalyst is midday and midday of course it's going to change every single day right because we've got slight movements with the day's getting longer and shorter right now the days are getting shorter until when December the 21st is that there yeah shortest day of the year and then they start getting longer a gamer again hampered song sore left long ago right sorry just unless longer once you get pot once you get past December the 21st then the Sun that the day start getting longer because the sun's around oh right so although I'm chilly it's all the way around right your summer is our winter and the other way around that yeah yeah I know the Sun over there actually that's longer I don't know why you have longer days way in the summer how long is your day in the summer like long as I'm 8086 close this one no you're singling at eight you know but so we did we discussing we discussed yessir in England in England you know it's sunny til ten o'clock in the morning goodnight yeah in the summer in the summer you know maybe one day yeah you kind of great afternoon nap you can all right now because we need them we need a lenten process to have tea in the afternoon that's why the summer yes yeah no sitting along dozen others will last you till midday today's 1122 11 to 22 excellent right so that that's going to be the half-day point however right so that that's the first up over here now before we start discussing miniature we have to work out sometimes over here you understand what's going on okay so we've got hat sawed is midday we then have something called min hat kadhala which is the big mincha right what is Minnetonka delevingne things Earl is the first time that you can double in her in the day now just to confuse things a little bit really you should be able to dabble in her from hat sawed onwards which you said was 11 23 right yeah today however to avoid any kind of complications avoid any kind of mistakes because in the olden days how did they work out when it was midday according to the Sun like the position of the Sun gave it away when the Sun was up in the middle of the sky that meant it was midday but there was always a certain amount of leeway on both sides right which means that the Sun will be up in the middle but it might be just a little bit before midday it might be a little bit after midday so the first time that weakened oven benefit is a half an hour after cut salt so today hat sawed is 1150 is 1123 so mins are the first time that you can daven mincha will be 1153 ok half an hour later what have you got 11 4931 seconds ok that doesn't doesn't ever oh you know what hold on hold on we're gonna do this according to my phone not according to yours that's not half an hour well it's it's probably half an hour of shots money odd now you see over here on my phone it's working just according to 30 minutes on right so it says here that hot Sun I always 1123 excuse me Mindy you cut salt right now so over here in my phone Minnesota is at 1153 that's a half an hour on frog Hat's art and the reason for that is just to make sure that it's really that we're really into the afternoon already right because you can't dive Miniver before that time yeah that's me legged ola then there is something called mintek tannerite if you've got a big Minister you're going to have a small miracle as well right now again don't don't don't get confused by the woods being used over here me look like a Tanner doesn't mean that it's a little limiter there's nothing small about it it's a regular winter like the musicals that we all know and love however it's just that towards the end of the day okay we've got hot sauce which is midday we've got min click Tanner we got min headed oiler which is a half an hour after that salt so again just one more time today I'm in hats on is 1123 so mincha ginola will be 1153 okay add can we then have something called min Hawk Tanner right which means literally means a small minica but again it's referring to the day is becoming small right the day is coming to an end and that is going from nine and a half hour's worth of daylight once you get into the last that last couple of hours of the of the day time of the daylight that's now considered to be Minister katana okay step number three right so so far we've had minimal effect honest at number three something called plug Hammond otha plug a min hurt now plug a milking is going to have a lot of important repercussions over let's just work out what plug them in if it is and then we work out what the halacha what what kind of bearing is going to have on their Locker butt plug Aminta is the halfway mark between mincha katana and skier so we're talking about ten and three-quarter high elastic hours about two-thirds of the way into the afternoon is what's going to be called plug I mean what's between MILF ugg boots on that end between min text anna and plug a meal that you've got and it again is it cool that you certainly it's alpha between the katana and and the oh and so the ski gear is sunset yeah yeah skier is sunset okay so far so good step number four is skier Willis Bracken in what what is plug America again right now for during a regular day flag of America doesn't have an awful lot of a halacha crema fication we're going to see that plug a mincha when it comes to bringing in showers early is very important because you can't bring in showers before that time so mean clickatell is the latest time you can start doubling Nineveh oh now the truth you know what was it let's work work it out in a moment let's just deal with the last two times that we've got over here one is skier right skier is sunset okay now she could reach you know shrink oof you'd you hey it's a little it's a little difficult to define sunset the simplest definition of sunset I guess we're going to use over here is when that when the when the Sun drops behind the horizon but as everybody I mean you'll know hopefully you know right that skier you know depend depending on what your scenery is that out of the window depends on when your skew is going to be so for example outside of my window we've got hills so the Sun drops down below it earlier than it drops down in a place where there's no hills it's just it's just like a it's like a practical thing right once the Sun has gone behind the mountains right are you you following me for you there right no here let's do it again right skier sunset is something which is very dependent on what you see outside of your window right so outside of my window we've got mountains and that means that the Sun is dropping down behind the mountains earlier then it would drop behind something when there's no mountains this is a regular horizon over there right that's it you can have differentiations here and you shall I'm of a couple of minutes between one place and another as to when when the Sun actually drops behind the horizon Shakya is what what time have you got for ski on your thing I have 448 over here where've you gone 34 43 nekkid gosh it's interesting i'll tell you why it's interesting because most moat you know the first time that you can dabble Mairi the most shows is 20 minutes after the skier okay right and I don't you're saying that it says 43 yeah but I don't know I don't know any shoes without downloading that earlier 5503 10 plus 5 is like exactly learning student that's fine then who is not so I'm just not earlier here I guess so whatever think I know it's interesting these different different things are in all events right shakira is a sunset and then the last time that we've got over here is something called tate a oven i'd say psycho colin is when the stars come out right so again obviously we all understand it is a gap between the sun setting and then it gets dark it takes over here it takes about 18 minutes over here but i but and what is taste like having three middle sized stars coming out into the into the sky that can be seen easily the question i've got is a question I've got as well as this 72 minutes because on the settings you can alter the minute until nightfall yeah and it's set at 72 minutes yeah and then it says here 72 minutes for Allah right horse crap in it what is that so the set 72 the day I don't want to go into too many details over because it's really it's really complicated there's something called rebel town yeah the time of rabanal town now rubino tom has got a completely different method of counting counting the time the hours and what's considered to be sunset and what's not completely something and according to Rebecca Tom even though it's dark outside it's not nighttime until 72 minutes after the after the sunset okay right which is why you've got that second time over there which means you've got the time of when the 3 stars come out and then you've got the second time over there are 72 minutes which according to rebel time is really the time you should be w minica you should be deadly virus now just that can i confuse you for a minute I i I'm just it's it's just like a fascinating thing now you've got here you've got hit right say psycho column which is the time that the stars come out according to the regular time is 520 but according to our bed the time it's 555 now what is that what is that late what does that lead to there are acidic communities where they will daven mincha when it's dark outside because according to them according to a better time it's not nighttime yet even though it's dark great so i won't went with my kids we went to where we went to daven my rib like the nighttime service and we went into the shoulder we couldn't understand why they were on the emitter already that was rather speedy right so there's a thing that when you can't Davin my Lizzie they're already damn in the immediate so you should start doubling the ad leader and then you you catch up with everything outage so we start doubling your meeting with everybody else and we're getting towards the end of our recitation of the immediate and they start the repetition of the Amity they were w mincha it was a hasidic stable and so it's all a bit it's all a bit odd it's all a bit weird but um then what is the morning second second time in the morning so again we're talking over here about two two different two different doors there's a dawn of 90 minutes and there's a dawn of 72 minutes okay right and that's where you've got to you've got two different two different numbers over here well the difference between them is about you is very minimal and by me is not so if my the dawn of 19 is for 31 and then the dawn of 72 this is 449 which you've got 448 450 I don't I don't know I just don't know I don't know what to tell you okay let's have a look let's have a look and see what we've got over here so take total happens when you've got three medium-size stars out in the in the watchamacallit in the sky now again normally it's a 20 a 20 minute wait over here in Israel it's really 18 minutes from sunset until the stars coming out after 18 minutes it's okay to daven maariv some most communities either 18 minutes 20 minutes it's the first time that you'll begin to daven maariv some communities are a little bit more stringent and now wait 30 minutes that's according to the opinion of the husband ish right so again whatever you do it's fine whatever is happening over there it's going to be fine so it'll between 20 minutes or 3 ms yeah you can tomorrow from sheer so here if you it'd you're dabbling married from skier if you daven 13 minutes into skier then your mouth is okay but it's not great really really my roof needs to be prayed after it's got dark from say so from a psychic oven yeah some site right again sometimes I'll done it here you know for example in in in certain communities over here it's a lot less common but in cutler it's very often they'll double mint are married together so you need to know right Milliken is always going to be done before shakira and then i have myra straight away afterwards and that's normally being done in the summer months when there's a problem because no one's going to come back to show half-past ten at night to daven maariv so you daven whilst it's still light outside regards to UM whatever look somewhere over the country where it's always something always never yeah turns dark so when I saw the time it hits one so saying the time was 11 3 that's the time to daven no sorry biostar RV but it still sound like yeah I'm in Berlin it's a no it's a little it's a little bit of a problem I'm truth is I'm not a hundred percent sure what you do with my actually now that you mention it sharpness and mean if it's not a problem but my rib what do you do with my roof when there's Sun the Sun all the time and I'm just it's conjecture but I think it's okay to daven Mairi the only problem is that it never gets dark to be able to recite the Sh'ma again okay to do look into this monastery like twice i'm so over the chakras and i'll miss rapper if you can do it i mean that yeah if you miss it right but over here it's a question it's over here the question is on island the question is whether you're obligated and said or not well if you're not obligated then you don't have to say the atman or twice if you are obligated then you should be doubling my roof you know the regular way let me let me let me look into a plea negra i'm not a vast a question and i never get the full respond to the vitiligo yeah it's an interesting i don't know it's an interesting it's an interesting question what do you do with my live but what is interesting illogically you know shabbat for example so when do you know that shabad has gone out because you Jesus The Sun goes up again but what's up shot it's not the Sun stays in the same place the whole time but rather it doesn't go be like it doesn't go behind the horizon so you'll see it dip down and then come back up once you see it coming back up then you know it's the next day already the question is what do you do with marriage that's a good question I don't know there was a fascinating question the other way round from a American geologist who was a from guy who was working for the American government and he got sent off to Alaska in the winter and he wrote a question sir I've moisture fighting to know like what's supposed to be shabbos it doesn't there at there are weeks where it doesn't get like there at all oh yes breakfast attention likely up the opposite the opposite of your question so the instructors and so his question actually it's in Trey his question was to do with with Shabbat how do you bring in Shabbat if you've got no day right if you've got note you've got no sunset it when we bring in shabbat the sunsets announcer bob right yeah well if you've got no sun setting so when to show back come in you just based on the local oh so rough motion fighting game he gave three different options the first option was to follow the time you shall I the second option he says was to follow the time in the closest Jewish community where they do have day which i think was not in Nova Scotia I think and then what but what he paskin was an absolutely fascinating ruling which he said that shabbat is 25 hours worth of holiness and you you get to friday afternoon you can choose when you want your butt to come in and you just make sure that the next 25 hours are being kept to Shabbat so for example this week you finish all your work at four o'clock to bring it in at four thirty I just take it out at five thirty the next day next week you're busy busy you don't finish work until nine thirty to bring it in a ten and take it out eleven o'clock the next day it's a fascinating idea I don't know I don't know that's official I once saw a bumper sticker so the answer is maybe and that's final it takes a week 25 hours 25 hours worth of kedusha of holiness and that's what you do in a plate that's what you want a place where there's no Sun right in a place where there is Sun the Sun never said so then it's a less complicated because you see the Sun going back up okay let's go back to what it what is the unlocking ramification of plugin indicates to do with bringing in Shabbat early which means that in the summer months many many people bring Shabbat early right in England for example they're bringing in early every or as every community brings it in early here it is rather a lots of communities are bringing in early as well and from when are you allowed to bring in Shabbat from plug America not before and that's that's what the importance of plug a miracle is going to be over here which means that if a person wants to bring admit you know I'd say for example let's say shabbat i'm just throwing out numbers right but let's say shabbat let so gets dog at nine thirty at night right and so you want to bring in Shabbat early that's too late to start bringing sure but you can bring it in from plug a minute i'd say plug a middle here's at seven-fifteen so from 7 15 onwards you can now bring in Shabbat and it's Shabbat entirely right which means that Shabbat candles can be lit and you go to daven right you got it you know what happens when you got a show in the summer right you come out of sean it's still bright daylight outside right and that's fine it's a hundred percent sure but you got you can't do anything now that's not Shabbat related so we could technically bring show us in today at three thirty six yeah in theory that is that is that where we're holding yeah in theory you could bring Chavez in at 336 okay and even though shabbos comes in here who shall I'm it comes in at so the difference is not enormous right now it comes in at four o'clock yeah for 20 of your outside if you wish a line right but in theory yeah you could bring it in at 336 and you could have some extra shoppers then you bring it out that's prefer no no nice try it doesn't work like that Chavez goes out only when the only one the stars come out okay right and that's going to be consistent regardless of when you brought it in which means it in the summer you could bring in Chavez at seven thirty in the evening and it's not going to go out to ten o'clock at night so you've just added on another couple of hours worth of Chavez into your life which of course is a wonderful thing to do because shabbos is beautiful right right Chavez's beautiful rain yeah we got there finally VAR Hashem it's all of it all a bit disturbing right and let me just add something to what you said about about what you do ensure right when you've got a short winter day sorry a short win today and you finish davening ensure right normally you're finished darling probably around midday if Davenant kicks off a little bit later on so let's say for example davines starts that when at nine o'clock yeah so about nine o'clock by buying you finished at 11-1130 now buying by probably by quarter to twelve it's probably already you know it's probably it's 1130 is probably you know what let's let's keep things around right 1130 let's say is hot sort and a twelve o'clock you can add haven't so a lot of a lot of shoes they have a kiddush and then they save themselves the problem of having to come back to shul to daven Bennifer so they daven mincha straight away after the kiddush now just so you should know something if you want to do this correctly look at Taylor right look at the liberty of it now if you want to do it correctly you should really wash and make a lengthy in the kiddush and then bench after you finished eating and then government of her and then you can go home and you can have your suitor at home and that will actually end up being your third meal here what's going on you've got you've got a short winter day okay right and you've done you've Davin you started dabbling a little bit you know over here in Israel most places start pretty early but you know the communities all over the place all over the world they'll start dabbing at nine o'clock in the morning by the time you've finished it's 1130 1130 is probably mid day you've just got away another half an hour until you can double me because so what love is worth it not what lots of Shoals do is I have a kiddush and then after the kiddush they'll be able to daven mincha yeah but just to let you know that look at Cena the correct way of doing that is to wash your hands and make a mighty at the kiddush because you're really lucky know you're only supposed to daven mincha after you've eaten your meal right and then keeping in mind if you do it that way then when you go home and you have your meal at home or wherever you're going to your host wherever it is that you're going that will count as your third meal and you don't have to have anything more after that ok so again I know I know lots of Shoals in the hood sire it's right outside of his Rhino lots of Shoals where they do have a kiddush on you know after davening in order to be able to double in fit together and it's normally sometimes it's a very it's a very nice condition like a very a very well stocked kiddush you know with with with all kinds of things including including chalant in it and then that's really what you're supposed to do is really supposed to wash and then you can bench at the end of it and then you can daven winter and you've had your first meal so they weren't doing that in the show I was doubling in they were just doubling mincha and it was a fairly religious sure yeah well there is a condition between yeah yeah but just like a regular sort of like you know whiskey whiskey and cake John that that's bidi evered right buddy ever again you could you can what I what I would suggest is like this and you get if you're going to carry on Davin II over there and you're going to be there in the winter so maybe take with you a couple of rolls or i would say answer i would say you know speak speak to speak to the rabbi the shore and asking me if it's possible maybe they have and if he says no then just bring bring a couple of rolls for yourself and make a noise in that way you've had your first meal and then you can daven if you've done everything look up kayla nothing so i got laughs a girl off again there took a business it was dreaming about the Chalin i'm telling it no I should be eventually travel chakras Yuri kiddush the brisket ish right second kiddush because a shadow name right so shadows Travis Morty you finished darlin a yes and it's it's relatively right you're getting close to when you condemn me interfering so you make a kiddush in the meantime yes now he's saying that in his show that make a kiddush and they just have some whiskey and some cake and they get to get to the right time and then they could have Memphis trade awaking right the problem with that is that that like Attila the best way of fulfilling the Mitzvah is to have a meal a proper suitor and then to daven benefit how do you have a prob what's the definition of a proper suitor to wash and to have a mighty it's not it's not so much what you're eating over there but it's not so you know there is cholent there isn't chalant that's not what's going to define whether it's a suitor what's going to define the seuda is whether you're washing your hands and you're making a moiety so the correct thing would be would be to have rolls over there that everybody can wash the role they can watch over the roles they can then make a Boise bench and then you can dub mincha that's the best way to do it then after mimicking you can go back and you can have your suitor at home whenever you want and that will be your third meal you'll be done no we don't have as much the same thing it just IVF cake or whiskey or soft drinks and then right you go eat somewhere else to go easier oh so that's hey that's different because you're not doubling mimicking between yeah correct we done the problem the problem the problem are we here is the minitor not the kiddush which means that if you finish sure and you have a little kiddish in the show and then you go off to wherever you're eating that's fine there's no problem with that whatsoever the problem is that with these short winter days when they want out they want to make sure that's I just want to make sure there's a minyan right so you know there's very very limited amount of time to get everything in on these short winter days so that it's absolutely fine to do it like that but the best way to do it is to have bread was just convenient isn't interested yeah for sure y'all you're there you're all there right yeah you don't go back from a coronary yeah that was once yeah today you'll go back several times gosh this is not confessional you know that if you want I can step behind the screen and you know it give me Father price good okay you know what if you've turned up then I guess it means it's probably time to end the class yeah wait so is there confessional in on Judaism yeah it's a concept of tumor right part of chula is confessing your sin nobody's do it do it without ya you know you don't have to I don't tell him that know that they're really oh they're really there really is and actually if you behind the screen and a fifty bucks if I can I could take care of most things although if you if you'd be you know you've done some real you know terrible things in your life like I don't know for example like being a vegetarian or something then then that's going to cost a lot more than 50 bucks but we can make an installment plan or something it's fine really the other feel like say this brother like four times that's right that's right