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Basic Judaism: Questions and Answers - 4 - Kashrut - Rabbi Reuven Lauffer
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actually the Jewish definition of meat
is not complicated at all its other
other things that get added in
rabbinical II that become complicated so
meat is meat you know cows sheep goat I
would also consider poultry in the meat
oh so poultry interestingly enough
originally was not meet at all right the
rabbi's added it in because what poultry
is like a cross between I mean what is
its across it's not really it's not
really it's not really an animal and
sometimes it's not so much a bird either
well but birds are animals I'm time
talking about modern definition I'm
talking about you know like yeah I mean
I don't know about you but for me
there's definitely a rather noticeable
difference between let's say a cow and a
pigeon to the katakana you're being
remarkably pedantic this morning I'm
talking about animal animal like figures
right Adam animal crackers that kind of
thing animal animal like figures as
opposed to birds which are you know that
they they're not animals I mean how
lucky they're not animals anyway I I
recognize that Judaism it's a
distinction and I'm still flabbergasted
by that distinction OD only because
you'd be brought up in a society where
poultry and that and animals seem to go
together yeah that's any reason animals
basically everybody in the world that
aren't plants you know like or fungi or
manera or cookie cookies though yeah
yeah so the vino yeah yeah I'm sure
birds fish everything better animals
yeah that's a fish fish fish are not
efficient or anything I mean how
logically well
Fisher first of all the powers they're
not they're not they're not meaty right
they don't require they don't require
screechy they don't quite being
slaughtered no ritual it sorry ritually
slaughtered okay obviously I let your
eating sushi yeah these things have to
be dead that they rip the real the
reason that the rabbi's made poultry
meat to give it give it a meat
classification is because there are all
kinds of poultry that really are very
neat like so turkey hot pots of turkey
what even is not kosher I thought I just
had this country's in the day I thought
I was I thought it was all if because it
is a bird right all birds are kosher
except the carrion birds and they named
them specifically I thought that's what
did we do that in this product no no the
name the Berkeley Austria the ostrich is
is is defined as being not kosher in the
tower and austra all the all ostrich
family tomorrow says anything that comes
out of something which is unco sure is
on kosher that's where that about that's
where the whole thing the whole fastest
and that's where the whole thing about
honey comes from so that the garage
remotes got a whole thing either about
honey about honey how honey is how honey
is made the process of honey that it's
made the beat that B takes our pollen
and adds all being done it's being done
in an extra external part there are some
substances coming from you sir oh you
know queen queen bee honey is not kosher
because that's something which comes
from inside of it of the queen bee
what's it called oil oil honey sorry
roll jelly whatever it's called I'm
sorry yeah that's different from honey
yeah but the beasts are congested that
the power in the first place I don't I
tell you I know I don't know I don't
know enough about it's very explaining
the gamarra the govern holy definitely
it asks the same question right it says
I call you it's even i tell me tell me
anything that comes out of something
impure is impure we color your tomato
anything that comes out of something
pure is pure
and then the gomorian sell faster how
can how can you eat hackney honey and
the Camaro explains this idea that be
the bee and the way that the bit the way
that the bee manufactures honey is not
the same as something else well we could
take it take a look at it take a look at
the details and see exactly how it works
itself out I saw I saw the most
incredible idea you know the Land of
Israel is called the land of milk and
honey that's one of it one of its
biblical designations right it's
actually mentioned a few times from from
the book of schmoes onwards from the
book of Exodus onwards that it's
described as being the land of milk and
honey and so the question why why milk
and honey so the fiduciary who's the one
of the great Hasidic Corelli's a first
Rebbe from gore he explains like this
milk and honey are two two substances
which face value should not be kosher
honey because of the problem of how its
manufactured you anything that comes out
of something impure is impure and milk
because the the origins of milk is blood
and what inside of they put in over the
process of the animal turns it into milk
and then it comes out of the animals so
really when I suppose we're not supposed
to be drinking blood so the Gomorrah
says that but again it's it's already
blood its milk and as a whole there's a
whole deal over there bothers that no
human milk is not milk it's actually its
power of it's not it's not it's not
considered to be dairy human flesh now
you can't eat human flesh unless unless
there's a reason why you have to but
interestingly enough the reason why you
can't eat human flesh is not because
it's not kosher that's better but
because it's disgusting yeah no no that
I did the concert I don't I've never
even the stuff hey hey it's disgusting
unless you put a little bit of mail on
it and don't know though some some
grilled some grilled onions as well just
so you know let it go down a little bit
smaller which means eating eating human
flesh is something which in the Western
world is disgusting right again
cannibalistic tribes in the jungle
somewhere by them obviously it's not
particularly disgusting at all that's a
famous joke about the two cannibals
where once it's the other one I don't
my mother-in-law's for the other one
says to just eat the vegetables
interestingly enough you know that's not
that's not a you know that's not a
concept which is terribly terribly far
away from Judaism the Ramban at manatee
says a reason why we don't eat blood
from animals is because that's a life
source of the animal and you become what
you eat one of the reasons is Rita will
you do ritual slaughter is that you know
that the blood has to be drained out
because we don't we don't do that stuff
that's interesting I've always reminded
that in England there's a there's a
delicacy believe it or not called black
pudding yeah like pudding is made out of
pig's blood which is very very very dark
and it looks like it's black and it's
like a sausage it's good to have Jews in
the world cuz no one else is going to
eat this stuff right so you know like we
look look learn from the Aikido ya hear
that I mean what are we exactly where
that we loud eventually mean God says no
in the end what I thought my children
yeah I'm even wanted to but but the fact
that he is it just a challenge yeah it's
not has nothing nothing whatsoever very
a very careful analysis of a woods shows
that God at no point is God say to
Abraham he should he should slaughter
his son infant bring him up on to the
altar right and he did so he did
everything he was supposed to do and
then God says that's it fine finished
right Abraham doesn't understand it like
that Abram understands that he's that
he's got to take his kid and to you know
to sort him up on the on the altar but
that's not that's not what God actually
tells him to do God God does not want
human sacrifices I don't know how to
break this choice should've broken it
more gently I really should have done
because I know you've got a long list of
people that you would like to offer up
since ur why don't we know that it's
okay we don't do it again if you don't
do what
I'm so confusing here and we we don't we
do not we don't have to go through its
interest and we do not have to go
through that experience of of trying to
show God our allegiance to the way that
Abram did because we have our spiritual
DNA from Abraham which means it's there
inside of this human meat is not me if
you if you were to nibble your nail not
your now maybe the side the side of your
fingers or something you don't have to
wait six hours until you have a cup of
coffee with some milk in it right
because there's nothing there's nothing
BTW about your flesh is it permissible
to eat flesh according to Jewish law no
it's not unless there is a dimension of
saving life which means that you know
come down and I wander I crash or
something or desert island or whatever
it is you can't you can't kill somebody
to do it yeah but if somebody is already
dead then you can take their flesh and
you can eat it if you don't have any
other alternative which means it that
you know the local the local McDonald's
is so far away they just go on you for a
while yeah okay I mean it's interesting
I because here in the wet in the Western
world we are we are programmed that you
know eating human flesh is something
which is actually discussed them is that
happen in the passage of historical
jumpers indonesian i don't know i'm sure
they probably are let's saddle was the
opposite they kill themselves not not
because they didn't have enough oh you
know what yes there are i'm sorry that
the the destruction of the Temple the
first temple it says that the family was
so bad that one one of the most terrible
things that happened over there was that
mothers ate the flesh of their dead
children because there was nothing else
to eat I don't know I mean it's a sucks
it's like it's like it's a moes it's a
most awful I mean how do you how do you
wrap your mind about around something
like that how you know how far does
somebody have to get to when they're
prepared to do something like that we I
mean it's it's awful absolutely awful
gosh but anyway poultry poultry is
pretty incredible tree in its in its
turret designation is pair of it's not
it's not dairy and it's not milky
I'll try that again even though
absolutely no we made a comment or
blinked or anything but it's not dairy
and it's not needy it's not daring it's
not milky for sure yeah really obsess
members every time that I still don't
understand why is it just because it's
like the connection yeah it's a
rabbinical a rabbinical connection that
the Gomorrah sets like this the rabbi's
did it because poultry requires that
there are certain things about poultry
that are very similar to me so for
example it requires schritte it requires
ritual slaughtering certain parts of
poultry are very no not at all thats
that's why fish are not considered to be
meet the real question I were here is
not why don't we sort of fish the real
question is why do we store two chicken
because of because of the there are
certain there are certain things that
are just so similar to meet if you have
ever ever ever eat red turkey meat the
turkey is a turkey in the Torah turn is
it a rest for your family on their
horses ran over the turkey chicken
families are you seeing if I score any
intimacy I would consider a neighborhood
oh no the red meat that adopt the dog
meat from the from the turkey which is
it you know you get turkey roll over
here turkey turkey is fascinating should
know that absolutely fascinated it's
almost exactly i don't see that as like
the bridge between it's not a bridge
it's not you have to understand that
none of none of this is a bridge
similarities that's all so it's really
it's it's a yeah yeah the rabbi's came
along they said okay this is what we're
gonna do to make sure that there's no
misunderstandings anywhere we're going
to make it we're gonna make astringency
over here and we're going to turn
poultry into me why don't you separate I
mean what I would have done it that I is
saying why don't you can create a new
category and separate that from darien
for me today you can eat it but once
that wants to know what new catering
category ugh are you going to make that
poultry can't be eaten with meat and it
can't be with no guiding handy dairy and
it can be eating would be oh so that's
what it was a river according to our
that's what it is yeah it's what's
called parent attacking it's neither
this nor that you know you're saying
it's because it's so similar that people
will come along and say accidentally but
yeah
if instead of it to Turkey or whatever
red turkey need and eat that instead
thinking that it's rented a plus um yeah
put on cheese on it really break I'm not
I don't taste the different QB things
yeah but are you but when you're here
but I'll tell you something I'll tell
you something over here right because
meat meat production are we here is very
different from an America meat
production in America is something I
mean America metis don't get it I'm not
talking about that how it gets onto your
plate I'm just talking about the quality
of what gets onto your plate I don't
know it's very different meat meat
tastes very different over here than it
does over there it's got a lot it's got
a lot to do with how their favor anyway
but just bite poultry it's a stringent
see we're stuck with it it's a problem I
remember as a kid there was a fellow
called Bernhard Matthews who had any not
not not not Jewish and not kosher but he
had an enormous turkey production and he
his turkeys arrived at the supermarket's
already basted in butter you know ready
to be put into the into the oven and
finished off in there and yet he had
these scintillating Edler's they were
like they were like mouth-watering you
know like these turkeys coming out of
the oven and that the skin all around it
has been crisp and up with butter and it
was always I it was yeah it was
mouth-watering looked mouth-wateringly
good and the Gomorrah says and that we
should not say that a bet kosher food
but non kosher food is disgusting right
yeah but rather we should say non-kosher
food is delicious i'm sure but i can't
eat it and that's that that was that
work for me that was like living living
the Gomorrah when these when these
pictures of these turkeys came out of
the oven on the on the television it was
like where
you know uh just just just the turkey at
this yes no I mean I obviously I would
have to watch the bits in between
because you know I didn't quite know
when the commercials were going to
happen but my real concern was about
baked at Amazon benching well we'll
learn one of those as well that if a
person did not have any cavan and that's
difficult to translate the word kevanna
but qivana is intent concentration what
did you say Sol Sol content whatever
something something from inside of you
according to some authorities if you had
no intention whatsoever when you benched
you've got a bench again now this is
like again you there are there are
authorities that on sale out there are
authorities who say that you want you
know if you've said it you said it right
but and there are some that say if you
don't have intention but you need to set
again and it's a it's a it's a it's an
inning it really is because you know
very often when you're when you're
beginning your path down Judaism so the
idea of benching and not being aware of
the fact that you're benching are not
having some kind of intention when you
bench is pretty wild because benching
takes a long time and it's it's night
something that you're very very much
aware of but as a person becomes more
familiar with it like with most things
you know we have to battle every day
with the concept of what's called rhaggy
look reg you look comes in the were drug
deal which means just doing things by
rote you know without really thinking
very much about it that's something
which we have to we all of us have to
battle you know in every every dimension
of our lives actually we have to battle
it trying to uh oh autopilot right then
which is which is a terrible things a
terrible thing to go through a day never
mind through life but it's a terrible
thing to go through a day on autopilot
without you know so where did you go i
don't have a clue just got there you
know and that's pretty sad it really is
and and benching is sats white that's
really why the Mission Board says that
the best way to bench is by using you
should use a bencher use something to
read out of users sitter because that
way if you've got something you're
focused on it if you're focused on it
then hopefully you'll be thinking about
what you're saying if you're doing it by
by rote
so I think I do is like this when I
bench i try i do try very hard to use
always see you as a bencher right to use
a something to read out or but if i
don't if i'm going to bench by heart for
whatever the reason then i normally sing
the bench ink I don't know when you when
you when you're taught to bench when
you're a kid so it always comes together
with a tube right the whole bench its
got like a tune that goes through it and
you you sing each paragraph and I do it
like that because that way it just keeps
me it really keeps me focusing on have a
book to look into then at least if I'm
singing it then I'm concentrating on
what it is that I'm saying and I'm I
don't know sometimes I think of myself
but maybe you know that maybe that maybe
we should be singing benching every time
we bench anyway actually don't know I
don't know I really don't but we do have
to concentrate on what we're doing
that's that's for sure right so whether
whether it's a you know in your in your
in your work day whatever it is that you
know whatever your chosen profession is
or whether it's in your religious life
or whether it's in your whether it's in
your emotional life as well you know not
to just take things for granted and to
and to not not give any thought to the
people around you who you are supposed
to love and care for
you