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YOM TOV SHEINI SHOLOSH REGOLIM WHY NO SHEHECHEYANU FRUIT SECOND NIGHT
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Shiur from 2022 at Bais Medrash Ohr Chaim
Categories:Torah/Yamim Tovim
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really we started
a week or two ago
gave a Sunday.
So we're really deep into
but
from last year
that I gave it was still a big part that
I feel is neg relevant just to finish up
last last year. So we'll continue in
and even in the there's going to be a
we spoke in the previous year
of the second day of Yam is a suff
for us the second day y is vion we have
no suffic we know we go with the
calendar and it's clearly the first day
sukus that's the real day is second day
is for sure not. However, like we spoke
and the gar says
that we keep the second day like
kept the second day and they kept it
safer.
They they speak about it that it's
safash
and that'll be a big focus in tonight's
year. What's together? And we know
Rashashan is
it's not a suffk. I want to try to take
a few minutes to go through how it was
in the history of the one day two days
of Rashashana. Could be some of it is
para a lot of it is para but it's good
to get then we'll see a few minutes
every all the who kept two days let's
call it the people it's really people
that the
meant to say couldn't get to
15 days they had to get to the 15 days
till
so all along where the got to they kept
one day past where couldn't get to they
kept two days. So what's with rashash
rashash is the first day of the month.
You didn't have those 15 days to to
travel. You didn't even have a half a
day. The first day was came the first
day.
You couldn't even go out of the so
anybody out of the
kept two days but that was a regular
mafic. They didn't know what most of
most of her they kept one day kept two
days. Rash was much harder and forash
they had to keep two days if anybody
added the of
>> what say they came later and they
couldn't even walk till you mean if they
came at the end of the day
then even it was even less people
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what what's interesting comes out is
that even even Yeshua is saying that
they came at the end of the day. So then
even the people at the end of far out
kept two days. But the Emma says that
it's that even
kept two days to say if the Adam came
the Adam not the Adam came the Adam
didn't come if the Adam didn't come the
first day. So everybody kept the locals
in kept the first day rash mop because
could be are going to come but they
didn't come. So they kept the first day
mafic till the last minute and a didn't
come. So they the second day was rash.
So it was sh that literally gal kept two
days rashash but their only safik safik
safik. The first day was a sophic or the
second day further out it was a sophic.
a safic even the people within right
next to bezel that they didn't know and
Adam didn't come till the last second
that they didn't come they kept two days
so the first day was a saf and the
second day was a vi
so the we really don't have anything
different at all from any other a little
bit of different because it's the
beginning of a month but the two days
more people kept two days so almost
everybody kept two days but it was only
a safic
What happened?
Two explanations to the gar. What was
exactly the kil? What did the how did
they mess up? Either one of the gar is
at the sang
and came to say literally the last
minute 5 minutes before Adam came and
the first day was rash but the
was
that was one way of kil the other kil
that they just didn't they didn't say
any shir they didn't know what to do so
they didn't say a shir it wasn't a bahal
they just didn't know they didn't know
if Adam are going to come or They didn't
say she but either way they were
that there was a cut off point from
they weren't means even if Adam came to
be they knocked on the door we saw the
wab
bez they could play with the we notice
in other times you don't want certain
days
you saw cloud you saw being mad So they
could they could not take the ad be a
molly.
Okay. So they made this taka. So what
comes out like this? First of all, how
do they accomplish that? There's no kil.
It's very clear these are cut off point.
So the the knew that
if they were that that told us
so they knew
and if did not come
so if a didn't come they could
comfortably say
However the what would come out this
that if Adam didn't come after told
first they told us they didn't come. So
what did we say? So the go and see
we know for you could really go and do
you take off your big shabas because
you're wearing mop might be
you could go and do that that's what
what should come out however there would
be a problem a kil would come out what's
the kil next year people are going to be
and keeping the first day rash because
they're going to say we started keeping
it and we changed over and it really
wasn't. So to begin with either they're
going to be mazel
if it's really rash or they'll be
mazalry next year the first day they're
going to say what do we have to keep
remember last year we stopped the so
together with the first hand in hand
came another tak what was the tak that
we don't take but besides that we don't
take you have to keep that that day you
have to keep it even though it's vi not
rashash.
So what comes out very clearly right now
right now we found clearly why Rashashan
is different for these few people the
locals in I'm not talking about the
people that were further away that
didn't know they're keeping him but the
people in
Adam did not come
and
were not making still
the second was that you should still
keep you should still hold on
next year. So the first day is it's a
but it's
why we keeping the first day when
didn't come said keep notic it's
and when's
the second day
so we see very clearly that rash has two
days but both days of any the yumpt
the second day. The reason we keep the
second is because we're not sure maybe
yesterday was y maybe today's yash it's
not like that in these scenarios and
these are the cases that we know for
sure today's not rashash because we're
not taking aim so it's vi but still the
said keep rashash so it's a vi
it's important to mention these another
anotherlav
another takana let's call it a third
takana third level when the mdash was
so there was no need anymore for first
what was the first that we had to make a
cut off point
there's no more no more saying no more
taking forash because the are going to
get mixed up they're not going to know
what she to say to sing
was no migdash
we don't have that problem anymore so
this tako was bottle and they used to
take Adam to land's
mour that even though the first icon was
bottle the second was not bottled
if
Adam even
didn't come till after
we we even though we we brought we took
Adam or Adam we consider it like before
the third like it used to be that both
days areash
this is clear I'm just being my a little
to get it clear and we'll see it in a
few minutes after
it came out that the first day was
and the second day was we'll soon see a
little bit of about that as well
clearly s in the different levels of
takis rash both days are vi one day is
vad one day is
There are a few minutes between Russash
both days are vi and between
the other that the second day is safik
the first one is like it's mur and the
tour the tour brings bashm chuas rashi
that le rashana the second night you
don't make au
cuz you already made the first night.
So you don't make au
the other make a because the first it's
a safic even though we really know but
like it's that we treat it as a safic
say in the beginning we treat it as a
sophic. So what does it mean treating as
a suffic? Maybe the first day wasn't
yik.
So if it wasn't you have to haveash
both days are so you already made the
first day.
Why should you make another the second
night? And the same thing also rash by
day on the why would you make au on the
second day you made on the first day
the tour brings
then you do make a shakanu why do you
make au why why would you make a shakanu
that's it's not a the second day is
still rashash the ter is that the second
day is different The first day is only
at least if you go with the second
is a very big
and he goes with the second which means
which we said before that we didn't take
and still said hold keepash that's
the secondash
so you can make another the second day
on the viasha
So meaning to say is like this. It's
clearly the other you make here. It's
questionable really you shouldn't.
Even though it's
a different it's a different
however it's
as we know we have aes
we have the second night to make a
meaning to say is you make a but it's
if you're supposed to make au or not
You should have a peri
same thing is also by day the should
have either bages or pi
just to go a little bit study a little
off the mama topic but what we're
speaking about it's to mention on this
we said if you need or not
so what do we do we make a but we're not
sure. So we have
what did you gain? If you need au
you don't need a fruit but if you don't
need au making on the fruit it's a
heick.
What what are you making? Very nice. So
it's not a but it's a heick. The has no
it's not a gun no we're explaining that
you
make a
but you don't need au so what are you
making second night imagine middle of
you start making it's a halfick how
could you make au
in the concept of halfick of
heaps is not the t that it's there and
it doesn't belong there. That's not
heaps. Heaps the definition of that.
But often that when you think that it
belongs there, it's not a he gives a few
somebody a lot after you you made a you
speak out, go feed my animals and he
forgot that he sold he sold already. He
doesn't have the animals. It's not a
halfick. I He spoke out. What are you
saying? Go feed the animals. You don't
have any animals.
You thought that you're supposed to
speak out. Says,
"What happens if somebody makes aues?
Is that called a halfick? Do you have to
make another really? It's a halfick." Do
you know is a mistake?
Is a mistake.
It's a mistake. What do you make? So
really if you if you mistake we feel bad
about your mistake but if a mistake yeah
you made you forgot you started talking
to somebody you have to make another
it's a halfick. So what happens if
somebody made
it's not a half why you thought that
it's been made like this
we're making because of because it's
however
we also because maybe not but we're
making the because we think that you
need it for the kdesh the reason we also
do it
you don't need. So it's not a because
why you making you think you need the
you should be careful. This is when you
make the
we look at the fruit and we have all the
on the pey but it should be also on the
pi. If you're only making the on the pi
that's a heick. What are you making on a
per middle of kesh? You're making on the
day of rash. However, you're also having
a mind
also having a mind on the fruit. But is
not supposed to be on the fruit. It's
supposed to be on the kdes also on the
fruit. Not to be
mic even the if you people that mish
think only the fruit it's also okay.
He's
cuz these people that have in mind
they think that the surash kesh the
second night is what a fruit. So if
that's what they think it's right to not
a half sick
>> what say?
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Very if you don't have a fruit it's it's
to have a fruit
not because it's like every other like
we explained that it's a but you're
right if you don't have a fruit you also
do it.
We explained before that the gather of
the first day is not suff
to keep the first day
even though it's not second day
before we go to the other it's just to
point out that the
has a long ch we mentioned a little bit
about in the previous year but says even
though
the second day we treat as a sophic he
has a very sharion
that
somebody wrote a chuva. Maybe if you
could write a get on the second day
but is even less of a suffic count 49
days. There's no safety
that
they laugh.
It's only a
it's really a and he's bothered. How do
you make of it on the second night of P
on Mor the whole second day is a suffic
and it's a sufficon
he says it
all
upon him even though saying that
suffk also has its
another second between Russia
The two days of Rashashan and the two
days of the other
is
what we're learning now.
If somebody forgot to make an
three days,
you have Thursday, Friday, and then
followed by Shabas.
The den is you can make an
alai
on Thursday the first day of the three
days. The first you make out tonight you
can make an
if today yumptive then you don't need an
tomorrow Friday you can cook no problem
if today's not
so then you can make an today and you
need an air to make an to be able to
cook from tomorrow Friday yas
so you can make an
if a person forgot to make an
however
being our explaining Clearly good one is
the one is the doesn't make a difference
but there's no suffic both days are
because of
but we keep it like our that kept both
days but a clear second
a third
is
which we learned or we learned of
medicine
to take medicine.
You're allowed even
why the whole is only
so you're allowed.
However, rash is not like that cuz rash
the second day is not a suffic
regardless of which takana we're going
with.
It's not a safic. It's not a sophic. You
can't take medicine in the second day of
Let's go back a little bit now to
Shakanu of Yam Shi. So we explained very
clearly that Yam Shi is a suffic
we treated as a suffic. It could be the
first day wasn't Yam but maybe when it
comes the second night
you make a shaky wait what you made a
shak maybe you made a shakanu yesterday
you made it already maybe yes says if
yesterday wasn't y there's no there's no
mo for you make a shakanu you have to
make it we make it on the y on the rebel
if yesterday wasn't y there's no mo for
however however
there'll be a big that comes out the
second day sukus
the second night sus we make au but the
says we switch around the kdish the
second night sukus the first night we
say the whole is at the end because the
also goes on the le of bas
the second night is
you should switch it around and say
and then
why explain the
what do you mean right yesterday wasn't
y and that's why you're making au again
so yesterday wasn't y and you didn't sit
in the ter is theu
doesn't have to be on the yeshiva
the is that if somebody made a building
it a suka you no longer have to make a
shak on sitting on the suka. We don't
make it on the building because we make
it when we sit in the suk to leave both.
But made a shaku when you were so
excited you made a sh on a building on
the suk. You don't make again on on in
eating the you'll still make
but now eating the
second night is
why you making the second night because
of you're not sure maybe yesterday
wasn't good
but
there's no need for because the you
already made yesterday even if it wasn't
it wasn't y
Many have the meaning not like that and
the why you would make it at the end
doesn't go on the le because you can
make
which he did yesterday
just like you find
we're going to have now the of
the second night
is so when do you make the yakaz
The shanu is the last afterdala
has nod dollar. What are you putting all
the way at the end? The teres it's fine.
You could put at the end. You could put
at the end over here also even though it
doesn't belong in the leash.
What's about lulf?
So say it's like this. These two reasons
we make a
night. Why do we make au
only because of the yam the
also
what's about
make
go on two things the goes on the goes on
the mitzvah
as well also the
also goes on the mitzvah
When you make a on the on the mitzvah
you make is on the mitzvah.
What's about when you take the lul of in
the morning it's on the mitzvah. So when
you took the L of the first day sad that
the first day wasn't Yam
weren't going to make you don't mock him
for so why why would why don't we make
au the second day the second day why
don't we make au on on the style of
the same thing like just like you can
make a on the
you can make au on the e of the lulaf
the shaza asks from I don't understand
when I asked
So what's the shila?
What's he asking? And then what's he
answering? What's the sh asker
is to make au to make?
So what's the shila?
It's different than lul which you don't
make a on the on the building of the
you make it. So what's the shila?
What's the shila? What's the asking
from? I don't understand. Well, maybe
afterwards could be
but we said before that it's maybe that
the second is what's what's the what's
the need
of we understand so can we understand
you can make au what's the could you you
make aanu it seems because he asked I by
if he held that you can make aanu on the
so to speak making the so what's the ter
about the second Hey, this you're not
making shaku on the day that you make by
night already. The is on the mitzvah
just to be
of was speaking a lot about
so we said on these two reasons to make
a shaku when these mitzvah
on you make a shak there's no mitzvah
to make a on the then it comes by night
by night you make a shan s on the yam
and s the mitzvah. We said l is on the
mitzvah which is by night goes which
together with kdesh is both
we said purim when you make a shakyanu
it's on the mitzvah we know when you
make a shakanu in the morning should be
on the other mitzvah by night you make a
shakanu what's the shakanu by night on
the migill it's not it's the midonas
it's only on the mitzvah
what happens if you don't have have a
migill by night, not by night, not by
day. You don't make a shakan in the
other mitzvah because it's not a
mitzvah.
So si you always have it's not you don't
make a shaku. What happens if you don't
have a you don't have a migill? Do you
make au
if it's only on the mitzvah? do not
say you make a
and he says the a little bit different
than the on
however over here you make auess
take a look in the
I think it's clear he says you make it
which is interesting to note the same
thing should really come out as Well,
you don't have the whole eight days you
would make a also on
the
about it and he says if you make au but
I think
being that besides the on there's also
on so mainly even if you don't have a
migill you're not going to read the
migill you still make a shakyanu