YAALEH VEYOVO – ADDITIONAL TEFILAH OR INTEGRAL PART OF SHEMONA ESREI – HALACHIC DIFFERENCES

In this morning's shar I would like toem discuss something that's in though we're learning we're holding this is also in braas a few blocks further the garra says that if somebody misses a doning a shakus he davids mka twice if somebody misses min like today which means it's a min of you have to d a twice though even though the of tonight is a different than the min this afternoon is a m of tonight is shab since you missed so you have to make it up with ding the next twice even if tonight is a different or the same thing as tomorrow afternoon you miss a ma tomorrow afternoon of shabas so shabas you have to d a m twice even though the mira is not what you're making you're making up for a shabas. It's a different you have to d twice the next brings up a shila brings from what happens comes y comes ashes you ded the garra speaks about a case that you didn't d you didn't d you always have to d the next twice no matter if even if it's a different what happens you d however it's a day like today It's and you didn't say in a case that it's by like a today going into but even is Tuesday afternoon you came was you said however you didn't say so is comes now Tuesday night it's not anymore or what are you going to do? Should you dive in over should you dive in another? But says that you're not going to gain anything. What are you going to do? You're going to dive in on another to make up but what are you do? You're trying to accomplish but you're trying to accomplish because you didn't say you didn't say and when you're diving over you're not gaining anything because you're not saying anyways. So is that if you forget whether if it's one day or it's two days but it's go leading into whole says you do not d a second because you're not going to gain anything. Your second MV doesn't have a Y of >> why is that different when you go from Shabas to >> we're going to speak about it soon that it might be from from you know what is it different of the case of the Gammor you mean >> if you miss the shabas are you going to twice you miss >> very good you're pointing out why is this different than the case of the gar we're going to get to the in a minute in a minute the himself brings and the rush more provinia and they they argue and they say like M said what's the difference if you miss a min this afternoon you dra twice even though you're not ding the that you missed because if you miss you're ding twice so over here you didn't say it's like you missed the if you miss you have to ding twice so hold you misses comes even though by you're going to another you're not saying you're still ding two because you didn't there's no you didn't and therefore you have to twice it's not about being it's about being to to make up for the you missed so we have very clearly if somebody misses forgets by comes two what seems more simple is the second way you missed the davin. Of course when it comes of matzeresh you should dav twice you missed ya so you didn't d so the stiple in bra explains that there's a fundamental m is in understanding when y comes into davening the second way because it's simpler if a person doesn't say y it's like he didn't den let's take a look you missed It could be you only missed min because you didn't say but you missed. You have to d over twice even though you're not going to say yay. You have to d over you have to say twice. What's in the first that stifler that he understands that when y was forgotten it's not that din you have a perfectly goodie. It's not perfect but you have a and it's a good however you didn't say y so you have to say y but you can't say y by itself what is he going to do after you realize he didn't say y so what is he going to he's going to say out of nowhere y has to come with therefore if you forgot y have to say over the whole to be able to accomplish to say but not as you weren't You when you d a person forgets this morning if you forget this morning thought you didn't damage my nest you have to d against because you didn't damage however say another to be able to accomplish to say you can't say y by itself so immedately you have to say over so we have a if Somebody forgets by comes to you twice and the first holds no because you really already miss you're dinging over to be able to say you're not going to gain anything by ding over another you do already is good you have to do it over for y so since you didn't since you when you're going to ding over me She not saying don't over that. Would you just be able to like bench eat some red bench and say and then you accomplish? >> So you're bringing up a good point. Could you get a y of somewhere else? Obviously what the understanding what we need to try to accomplish is that you need a y of a which means is good. However, the the should be in not just by itself and like you're right. I was saying you can't just say by itself. So you saying put it into benching the is to come with Davin over again to be able to have the Yes. >> First twice, right? First one should be the second one. >> One second. One second. depending when you're saying it over. If you're saying it over on onesh, so both have yave. If you're saying it over, you come to honor mi neither have y of y. If you can't say in neither one the the ones that say that you can't is because you have to say and you don't the second way understands you miss the so if you miss a you even if you're not going to say just like if you forget today you may tonight twice even though it's a different so you miss the you miss you have to dra twice but >> how can you justify me if the was okay and all the brothers were okay how can you justify seeing another Estra just for just for the minstra is no let's say you do a makeup on onesh because you forgot another >> if according to your view the first is totally fine you can't do another say 18 more just for >> it's a good sh asking it's not a good sh it's a very big that you d it over the whole just to accomplish the it's a good sha but the concept you see Let's say it's possible to fill us in which we're going to get to soon hopefully at the end that in certain cases you might even need to do a fill nadava. So I I'm not saying that this is an adva but in concept it's not you're not we'll get to the minutes and we'll you'll see more of the point but it's not that you'reing over another just to say we want to have so more than three times it's still but one thing comes out clearly this whole is What happens if you forget and it's a two-day so then everybody agrees it comes to everybody agrees you dy twice because even that says you had a good but you have to dy twice to accomplish the yeah you with me the is only in a case of but let's say from where it's still have you would say, this is brought in the mission. I'm just bringing it up because though the even but just to get back our is if somebody forgot what's the twice and now we explains that but over again just to be able to get and therefore I would like to share with a few between these two and then we'll go in the he brings like this the following few minutes one is if a person dven he forgot y he has to d over fee the first his first is good feed the second it wasn't a goodessie then after if he has to dova if he said 18 to do was does he have to do what he what he missed I'm sorry what he said without the was good we want you to d another to say it's not to say the whole for but you say you say the But the first was a noisy only the brothers after you're going to be going to because the first ones he didn't know yet he's going to miss you but second that if you've miss it's not a good I hear you're saying it's only a glory later when you didn't say but when you say you didn't say that's one very clearly if you were the was a good however you're just missing the so you have to again to say you didn't it wasn't other the second you were you said 18 it's another this is I would say more practical the First one person on but the second is a clear going into when you see I mean you always say every but that you have to say you say y and if you forget y by you have to d over >> so he d the first mv He said but he forgot clearly again is clearly it's that if a person a person does not say more than once you say it one time is when a second time does he say yeah clear case you I have to say he forgot over but he said already you right it's perfect not perfect it's a good you have to d it over for you wouldn't say because you already that if you miss you don't have a when you have to say as well number two Another in the previous year we spoke the was on the and we spoke about making announcements between we spoke about announce others give a different you say not to make announcement that either the shamus or somebody should say loud by to remind the people We saw some don't like it. It's not covered. Here would be another if y is part of dining. So then you really shouldn't make say it loud. These are tak is so if y is part of dining. So if you forget I'm sorry if you you shouldn't say it loud. But if it's not part of dining like we saw even if you miss y have a good doning then you could say it loud. Another nam. This is a little bit because what we're saying the now is is not if it's part of ding or not. It could be part of ding and you shouldn't say it but it's just a sh if it's if you forget if you okay another what happens if a lady a lady forgets y and this is for the ladies that listen to the sh it's quite a few if let's say a lady forgets y by dvening. So what's this morning she ded she forgot. So is clearly if somebody forgets you have to ding over if you don't over the reason is brings you have to over so she forgot now foring like the garra says that the reason for is for and they also need so but what's Y is the day. So it's so they're not so like this. If a lady forgets the first when you forget you still have you you have no you have to d over again to be able to say. So then by ladies they're not because of the you don't have to say it. So they have a good however you that if you forget you don't have a also if you don't have a then even ladies have to d over because they don't have the number of >> the is that you have an interesting point you're saying that could be if since it says so for them there's a different type of domin is what makes >> interesting. I hear what you're saying maybe everybody will agree that if they forget right said even if the second is like but they don't have the of I hear interesting could be then it wouldn't be enough but I was wondering if the whole is only that which means even on like we're saying the first that they have a good however y they need a dav for y we need a dav But could be it's manga so they don't have to. So I was just wondering is it that just that they don't have to but they're allowed to are allowed to do not only they're allowed to they even make a so I'm wondering could be even more they allow over and say so this is another if a lady forgets the first they were so they don't have to d over the second they were you have to d over Another just to bring out these two stam another is if somebody forgets the tal ones but there'll be a part two to the year next Friday going into the saint alam to what we're speaking about we start saying the saint alam next week Thursday night onesh a person ded he said y but he forgot the saint talam It's relevant this started saying already from he said but he didn't say the same when he ds over and let's say he forgot the second time he said the same talib but the second he forgot y he ded over. He missed for saying which you have to ding over. So he's domining again another but by the second now he forgot. Do you have to dive on a third chloramino the first that you have a good first? No. No. You have to dive it over to say y to save as a so you have to d it over. But the first was good. So you have y. So therefore even though the second you forgot y you have the y with the first you have a saint and the second province you that the first when you forget it's not a and then you d the second the second you didn't say yus you have to do in a third >> no it's not claw at all very good very good originally [clears throat] I was going to really stick it in but that's You have to give it its own discussion. Could be you could not could be we're going to see very clearly next week that these that are the maybe St. is different but we're going to go is the same thing as yeah and stencil says is a clear but if it's the same which some tal like that then it'll be enough come in over here you forget if you have to search my nest right after you get into it >> if what you say >> you get into it you didn't say in a second. >> For now, let's go that it's the same. If it's different, then we'll speak next. We'll see clearly if it's different that it could be these by the same. But if it's the same thing and you forget one comes to the next, which means you could go you could use each for one of them. That's you have to have a third one final minute. Let's go on to the the somebody's in the middle of dominating that has a suffic he's holding by Alan coming now it's a long is long if he skips alan he'll be able to get the be able to say kadusha together with saying kadusha the brings that it's so he's msupic maybe some he's msupic If somebody if you should skip be able to say and get to be able to say what's about skipping there's no to skip because if you're going to skip you have to d it over. So you can't skip y but the first sad that if you skip y it's a good just you have to destroy again to have y. So you could clare the same shila. You could clare the same shila. Maybe you skip this. You skip and you're going to dive in another to say this is also in which also the I know you the brings out the even bigger like you're saying to another but you say this the explains it's not that the is not good. It's a good you have to dab in another to say >> what's according to both you'll >> what' you say >> according to both of those you'll have to if you skip it you'll have to dab in another >> yeah but if a second you cannot skip because if you skip you're invalidating your whole you can't do that I I I think even without the you can't skip to ruin your because you want to get kaduca you have your If you miss another if somebody forgets by comes twice or not. So what's very clear what's ladina? Somebody da and he remembers clearly by that he didn't d that he didn't say I'm sorry. dominates two. So what do you do? So the rush brings the rush gives us the eight. He brings the says that since it's a so what you should do is you should d another [clears throat] you have to something. So says the you're not stop domining another domin for a purpose for a reason because you might you might have not that's this is clearly brought in at the end of that if somebody forgets comes and how any two have to Let's I want to I want to finish even on time early has its own have to clarify but this is called the rush says however comes so very good this is a nice for any what's today however since we're saying aesh like today if somebody this afternoon forgets. So what are you going to do? We have a if you're ding over or not, right? You have to I don't care if it's shabas. I don't care. You're not saying you missed. You don't you have to um you don't because you're not. So in the week you have eight of here. You don't have why don't you have eight of because you don't why because so what comes out really is is that you're not going to you're not going to you don't you don't that's what comes out clearly in brings out clearly that in a case like Like today if you forget you don't damage my ne of a second one there is however a there is however but just before the declares a shila just going to say it very briefly he is says means when it comes you're not gaining >> you're all set drive safely What are you not gaining? What are you not gaining by saying by ding over? Is it because you're not saying is that what you're not gaining or means you're not what's the is it that you're not gaining because you're not saying the now by you're just saying the exact same that you said by and would be Friday night. He says it could be even masking that Friday night you should yes over says don't d over because you don't gain anything if you don't gain because you're not saying so Friday night you're also not gaining you're not saying y but if the gain is a gain because they say something new so tonight when you're going to you're saying something new so he the wants to say that even Tonight he'll dab over twice even twice you're not saying even because you're being he's saying a new so you're not just saying without you're not just saying over the same he's saying a new type of so he says tonight is Not we talk that you don't d over you don't d over when it's a Friday night so and just to be makum if a person forgets y of on a regular day going into you twice even though you're not saying y clearly you d twice what's about Friday night Friday night you can't d uh you do not. However, there is if you want to be you have listen to the and you could be so if you want to have another you want to be you could have a second but if not if you don't have you're right so you d one is if you should d over a of one you're not saying and a week you could do it cuz it's a it's a you do Friday night you can't bring in Shabas you don't bring a carbon da so you only d a m once and I go chabas What asina?